Togo

[Frank Africa]

Hi, some time ago I went to Cameroon but I don't know Togo.
In Cameroon, the people speak also English (a little bit), and I'd like to know if in Togo some people speak English too or Spanish.
In your opinion is it better Togo or Cameroon for fucking?
I thank you for some info.

If you are in Lome, you should have no problem finding girls who speak at least a few words of English. Lome is right on the border with Ghana and you'll probably find several girls from Ghana hanging around Lome, also some girls from Liberia and Sierra Leone.

If you go to some smaller towns or villages upcountry, most girls won't speak much French or English, just their local language, Ewe or whatever.

In general, throughout West Africa, most of the girls who you would run into at a bar, nightclub, etc. will speak at least a few words of English, enough to get the point across. And even if they don't, the sex will still be good

I doubt if you'll find many girls speaking Spanish in Togo.

IMHO Cameroon is still the best for f-ing. But you'll certainly have a good time in Lome or in nearby Ghanaian cities.

[GoodEnough]

I hsvr not lived or worked in as many countries as Frank Africa, but I have lived in 14 dub-Saharan countries, and probably been with African girls from 5 or 6 other counties that I've never visited. I agree with him. First impressions are often lasting and may not hold true for the next guy who comes along.

One of the reasons that I so like Uganda and Ghana is that both are crossroads for several countries. So by going to either one, it's possible to meet women from 7 or 8 other countries. I've met lovely ladies from Rwanda and Burundi in Uganda, for example, though I've never been to either. Same for ladies from the DR Congo. Conversely, in Ghana, it's simple to meet women from all over French W. Africa; from Cote d'Ivoire, Tchad, Cameroun and Benin, for example. This why I would suggest, for the first timer who may only go to one country, to select one of these.

This is of course, just my opinion, but it is a great way to sample women from several countries without having to go all over Africa to find them.



GE

[Blastoff]

But my point remains - even with my above-average experience, I still have lots to explore.

Thanks again to all that have helped and contributed here but I have only 1 word to say to Frank Africa's comment above.

Amen!

[Frank Africa]

The reason you get so many differents charts of "best countries" is that not many people experienced any those countries, and those who did weren't in most or all of them. The sample (= the number of opinions) is small, meaning that freak experiences have a lot of weight and bias the result. This is a statistical effect: the smaller the sample, the less reliable the result.

As it is, no more than a handful of WSG members have had first-hand experience of at least three black Africian countries.

A good idea is to assign a relevance rating to any posting by finding out how many countries the poster ever patronized in his lifetime. A monger who discovers mongering at the age of 50 and travels to Pattaya is likely to find Thailand marvelous and spend the rest of his life travelling to Thailand. Mongers with worldwide experience had rather be in Thailand than biding their time in the US or Europe of course, but they will not waste their precious holidays on such a run-of-the-mill mongering destination as Thailand. It is also advisable to find out what a poster's special tastes are and whether language is not a main determinant of preferences. On a different and more devious note, I wouldn't put it past the odd poster to have a vested interest (e.g. own restaurant or a hostel) in some country and be just trying to attract others there as a customers. I can't point the finger but I suspect I very nearly escaped travelling to Malawi on such false incentive .

By the way, you should add Madagascar to your list of countries to be considered.

I've already written a long posts under "General Topics" with my opinion on the best mongering country in Africa (Cameroon, IMHO), so I won't repeat here what I wrote there.

However, XXL makes several excellent points:

There's at least 55 countries in Africa (depending on which island nations are included in the count), and if one deletes the six Muslim North African countries of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Western Sahara and Egypt, that still leaves 49 countries that are widely diverse from each other. Even if you then delete some of the small island nations from the list, like Seychelles, Comoros, Reunion, there's still well over 40 black African countries on the list. And most mongers have probably only visited a few of them.

I've visited 32 of the 55 (29 of the 49) since 1974, have lived for significant amounts of time (i.e. six months to over 2 years) in at least a half dozen countries, and have done significant mongering in many other countries, which puts me way ahead of most posters. I've also mongered with girls from countries that I haven't visited, such as Rwanda, Central African Republic, Eritrea, etc. But I have yet to visit (or sleep with girls from) such countries as DR Congo, Angola, Mozambique or Madagascar, among others, all of which have received some favorable posts, so even my vote for Cameroon needs to be qualified a bit.

XXl's point about the 50 year old first time monger liking Thailand is also true. Any one person's vote can be slanted one way or another by a "first impression" experience, and may guide them to either stay in that country (or keep returning there) after a good first experience, or else leave that country quickly after a bad first experience. I received an award-winning BJ the first night I was in Togo, from a fairly ugly girl who was lots of fun to be with; on the other hand, the first two times I tried to have sex with a girl from Ethiopia, I found both of them to be passive and terrible in bed. Both first impression have colored my general view of the girls in those countries.

And YMMV - always worth remembering. The girl who gave the award-winning performance in Lome may have been tired and a crappy performer a couple of weeks later with a different monger.

XXL also makes some good points about security. I would have recommended Cote d'Ivoire as a prime mongering destination in the late 1980s (so would XXL, I think he's lived there), but today I'd advise people to stay away from there until things settle down. Same with Zimbabwe - I have some great mongering tales from my 5-week stay there in 1989, but you couldn't pay me to go back there today.

P.S. Just remembered! a wonderful evening with a young lady from Madagascar back in 1979, although not in Madagascar. But my point remains - even with my above-average experience, I still have lots to explore.

[XXL]

I've just gone through the most recent postings on the Madagascar forum and they seem to fairly represent the pros and cons I experiences myself some years ago. What I might add is that the barebacking in Madagascar was the best in Africa (something to do with the Indonesian ancestry of tha Malagasy people?). It may have changed following massive campaigns but I doubt if such things change much.

The countries in black Africa where I found the best mongering opportunities are, in that order :

Cameroon (Douala)
Abidjan (before the war!)
Madagascar

I would return to all three, circumstances allowing.

I will not return to Ethiopia - though I miss the khat, he-he-he - and I will only visit Benin or Burkina again if I have reasons to do so beside mongering.

My experience in Ghana was negative but it may not be typical (I went to the wrong hotel in Accra and visited all the wrong places).

I've always spoken French so I can't tell you how much of a handicap not speaking any French can be.

[Blastoff]

The reason you get so many differents charts of "best countries" is that not many people experienced any those countries, and those who did weren't in most or all of them. The sample (= the number of opinions) is small, meaning that freak experiences have a lot of weight and bias the result. This is a statistical effect: the smaller the sample, the less reliable the result.

For instance I don't rate Brazil very high myself these days because 1) I knew Brazil when it was relatively unspoiled and 2) I'm a hard-line barebacker and barebacking is absolutely taboo in Brazil. In this case it hardly matters because the statistical sample is huge: my negative rating of Brazil doesn't have much of an impact on Brazil's status on a forum such as this as it will be offset by loads of positve ratings by other mongers.

As it is, no more than a handful of WSG members have had first-hand experience of at least three black Africian countries.

A good idea is to assign a relevance rating to any posting by finding out how many countries the poster ever patronized in his lifetime. A monger who discovers mongering at the age of 50 and travels to Pattaya is likely to find Thailand marvelous and spend the rest of his life travelling to Thailand. Mongers with worldwide experience had rather be in Thailand than biding their time in the US or Europe of course, but they will not waste their precious holidays on such a run-of-the-mill mongering destination as Thailand. It is also advisable to find out what a poster's special tastes are and whether language is not a main determinant of preferences. On a different and more devious note, I wouldn't put it past the odd poster to have a vested interest (e.g. own restaurant or a hostel) in some country and be just trying to attract others there as a customers. I can't point the finger but I suspect I very nearly escaped travelling to Malawi on such false incentive .

Regarding Côte d'Ivoire, there's a recent devastating report on the Côte d'Ivoire forum that rather settles it for the time being as far as that country is concerned. One of the problem is that Africa is moving fast, and not for the best. Côte d'Ivoire, Togo (?) and Equatorial Guinea in political turmoil, Nigeria (?) on the brink of total chaos, poorer countries like Niger and Burkina Faso hard hit by soaring oil prices, drought and refugees from e.g. Côte d'Ivoire. As if this were not enough, West Africa is now reported as a platform for cocaine smuggling towards Europe: this can mean "war-on-drugs" and "Colombianization" on top of the other wars and evils. Turmoil without end. Maybe a good reason to quickly visit some of those countries before it gets really too late.

By the way, you should add Madagascar to your list of countries to be considered, although ethnically and geographically it is not representative of the rest of black Africa. I've deleted Madagascar from my list because of flight (un)availability and because I'd rather fuck girls of Indonesian ancestry in, of all places, Indonesia than in Madagascar (where they represent more than half of the population if I'm not mistaken).

All your points are valid and you are obviously a well educated monger. I do take your points on board.

You particularly mentioned Madagascar which surprised me just a little as not a lot has come out about the mongering scene there in my research so far.

Would you care to elaborate in ti a little please.

[XXL]

The reason you get so many differents charts of "best countries" is that not many people experienced any those countries, and those who did weren't in most or all of them. The sample (= the number of opinions) is small, meaning that freak experiences have a lot of weight and bias the result. This is a statistical effect: the smaller the sample, the less reliable the result.

For instance I don't rate Brazil very high myself these days because 1) I knew Brazil when it was relatively unspoiled and 2) I'm a hard-line barebacker and barebacking is absolutely taboo in Brazil. In this case it hardly matters because the statistical sample is huge: my negative rating of Brazil doesn't have much of an impact on Brazil's status on a forum such as this as it will be offset by loads of positve ratings by other mongers.

As it is, no more than a handful of WSG members have had first-hand experience of at least three black Africian countries.

A good idea is to assign a relevance rating to any posting by finding out how many countries the poster ever patronized in his lifetime. A monger who discovers mongering at the age of 50 and travels to Pattaya is likely to find Thailand marvelous and spend the rest of his life travelling to Thailand. Mongers with worldwide experience had rather be in Thailand than biding their time in the US or Europe of course, but they will not waste their precious holidays on such a run-of-the-mill mongering destination as Thailand. It is also advisable to find out what a poster's special tastes are and whether language is not a main determinant of preferences. On a different and more devious note, I wouldn't put it past the odd poster to have a vested interest (e.g. own restaurant or a hostel) in some country and be just trying to attract others there as a customers. I can't point the finger but I suspect I very nearly escaped travelling to Malawi on such false incentive .

Regarding Côte d'Ivoire, there's a recent devastating report on the Côte d'Ivoire forum that rather settles it for the time being as far as that country is concerned. One of the problem is that Africa is moving fast, and not for the best. Côte d'Ivoire, Togo (?) and Equatorial Guinea in political turmoil, Nigeria (?) on the brink of total chaos, poorer countries like Niger and Burkina Faso hard hit by soaring oil prices, drought and refugees from e.g. Côte d'Ivoire. As if this were not enough, West Africa is now reported as a platform for cocaine smuggling towards Europe: this can mean "war-on-drugs" and "Colombianization" on top of the other wars and evils. Turmoil without end. Maybe a good reason to quickly visit some of those countries before it gets really too late.

By the way, you should add Madagascar to your list of countries to be considered, although ethnically and geographically it is not representative of the rest of black Africa. I've deleted Madagascar from my list because of flight (un)availability and because I'd rather fuck girls of Indonesian ancestry in, of all places, Indonesia than in Madagascar (where they represent more than half of the population if I'm not mistaken).

[Blastoff]

To summarize, the country with the biggest P4P scene of the four is certainly Côte d'Ivoire. The most peaceful and hassle-free of the four is probably Benin.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for your advice and post. It is amazing to me, not yet having travelled to Africa, the differences of opinion I am getting from mongers who have visited there.

For e.g. if you ask an Asian traveller where that biggest and hottest P4P scene is, nearly all with say Thailand. In South America most will say Brazil but in Africa I am getting so much or a mixed response it is hard to decide which place or places to visit first. I may just have to visit them all over time LOL.

I have been hearing the following places as the best to monger.

Ethiopia

Senegal

Cameroon

Ghana

Mombassa

Togo

now Côte d'Ivoire & Benin

I may try and post this message on all these African boards here get a serious vote going.

[XXL]

Here is an excerpt from Lonely Planet: "You can also fly to Lomé in Togo and catch a three hour taxi to Cotonou". In other words, you don't have to opt for one or the other, you can combine the two, all the more so since Togo-Benin-Côte d'Ivoire and Niger now have a visa agreement (visa "Entente"). A visa for any one of those countries is valid for the other three.

Crime in any of these countries should be lower than Nigeria but check the political/military situation before visiting Côte d'Ivoire. Togo was also in the news recently because of violence during an election. The German cultural centre (Goethe Institut) was ransacked. So I don't know what to think about Lomé right now. As to Niger, it now has a famine problem and you should definitely check the temperature, Niger is one of the hottest places on Earth (I think March-April are the hottest months).

To summarize, the country with the biggest P4P scene of the four is certainly Côte d'Ivoire. The most peaceful and hassle-free of the four is probably Benin.

[Blastoff]

I am very interested in the sound of this place. Has anyone got recent info available as I wouldn't want to get all the way there to find that things had changed?

What is the safety issue there for a Westerner? Is it known for robberies and assaults on tourists as Lagos Nigeria is? Oh, and of course, the girl scene please.

Thanks

[Ripple66]

When I was in Benin some of the sexiest women I was with were from Togo - probably because there is so little money in Togo. They were streets above the benin ladies (in looks aw well as services) but maybe trying harder because they were further from home (the same was true of Ghanaian girls in Benin)

[Zouk Love]

Foxeshunter

If I was you, I'd go straight to Togo.

Burkina has a lot of muslim ladies and Benin people have more money than Togolese.

But, in a matter of respect of the togolese poverty (do not forget that Eyiadema is one of the worst dictator of the world), please, give the girls some money. The situation is getting really awfull for the people over there. So, consider the money you'll give as a gift and not a salary to a prostitute.

Thanks for them

[FoxesHunter]

Burkina Faso, Togo or Benin?

Dear friend, can you tell me if is it better Burkina Faso, Togo or Benin for sex? I don't like to enter into night clubs but I look for outside girls and not prostitute gilrs. I like to find a girl friend for a week. Where are they less cheap?
Where can I look for them?
thanks

[Le Baron]

Hi,

After I spent a few days in Burkina Faso, I went to Togo for 3 nights from 8 Aug to 11 Aug. I took Air Burkina from Ouagadougou to Lome, Togo. The flight cost me CFA110,700 which is equivalent to US$400 approximately.

When I boarded the plane, I must admit that there was this strange smell, something like someone vomitted or something like that. I think someone must have overthrown when the flight was going through some bad turbulence.

Well after 1.5 hours flight I arrived at Lome, Togo.
I had booked a room in Sarakawa Hotel. The room was CFA67000 for rooms looking towards the town, and CFA75000 for rooms with sea view. I took the cheaper one.

The room is pleasant enough; much better than the one I stayed in Ouagadougou.

After checking in the room, making a few calls here and there to set up appointments for the following day, I decided to check out some places at night.

I went to the hotel bar, but decided against it because there were many people who were kind of dominating the whole bar. It is obvious that they are local expatriates, and this bar is their favorite place and must have come very often. This was clear from the behaviour of the bartender and the waitresses. I noticed that there were a few african ladies who were casually sitting around, but frankly I personally don't like when a bunch of people think they are at home and can do whatever they want regardless of the discomforts they cause to other guests.

Well, so I asked the waiter whether this was the only bar in the hotel, and he told me that there was another bar-restaurant by the swimming pool. There is a night club at B1 level, but all the lights were off.

I headed to the swimming pool and saw the bar-restaurant. While going towards it, I noticed three girls sitting at the pool side tables, chatting and laughing.

The waiter told me that if I wanted to have a drink I better sit at the poolside table. So I did. I ordered some Flag beer and chicken wings. While waiting for my orders to come, I studied the ladies. Their complexion was not "black" but more like Maghrebans. They all seemed of different age: my guess is 25, 23, 20.

The ladies, while chatting joyfully between them, they took turns in staring at me. I wondered whether this was a please-come-over-and-talk-to-me sign or they were just curious because they have never or seldom seen an Asian.

I drank 2 Flags before deciding that the stares were in fact signals. I casually went up to them and said "My beer does not taste good because I am drinking alone." (in French) and they immediately said "Our table is a 4 person table and one seat is vacant". I sat down and there was an immediate discussion about African and Asian cultures and stuff like that.

I noticed that while they all seemed to talk casually, they were racing one against the others to attract my attention, I think.

I also noticed right from the beginning the youngest looking one was the cutest. I prefer cute ladies from beautiful ones. I later learned that she was in fact the youngest and her age was 21. She told me to call her Sabine.

Now, I had to think of a way to take the youngest one leaving the other two behind. So first, I tried my best to hint that my personal preference goes for Sabine in all my conversation.

Then suddenly, the oldest asked which one I would take to dance if I had to choose one of them in a very nonchalant way. I told them about my preference. After a while the other 2 excused themselves and left. I mean, just like that.

I asked Sabine whether she really wanted to go dancing (which I do not like) and she said no. I then hesitated a bit and asked what was the fee and she said that they were no hookers. They just like to spend a night in hotels, and that they all loved making love. "WOW!!!". Am I hearing right?

Well, to make the long story short, we went to the room, and spent an unforgettable time. In the morning, I gave her CFA5000 for the taxi but she refused and took only CFA1000.

She gave me BBBJ, hand job, DATY, deep kissing but no CIM. She refused anal for the reason of absence of lubricant (Damn, I had the same problem back in Ouaga). She was about 160cm and I guess about 45Kg. I am not very good at guessing womens' age and weight, ha ha.

She refused all picture taking except this one, sorry folks. I tried to persuade her, but nothing would change her mind.

Hope you guys be as lucky as I am in meeting this kind of girl.

[Zouk Love]

Here I am on this forum. Let me tell you my adventures in Togo in 2001. For all I know, since I was there with my wife, the only neighborhood I visit was thanks to a taxidriver. He led me in a place called Amoutieve. Pretty unsure if you're alone, especially during the night. This was during the day and I met a young guy that I paid to give me protection.

The taxidriver introduced me to several girls (most of them from ghana) but they looked too crapy or HIV infected for me.

Finally, I met that wonderfull girl : light complexion, tall and strong female with a big ferm brest. We fucked for about an hour for which I paid 3000 FCFA ( 4.5 € )

But, most of the time, you just stop girls in the street (try to catch them when their alone and without too many people around otherwise you'll be surrounded by dozen asking you if you need some help just to gain some money and say they talked to a Yovo) and chat them up. You should be able to have some free freak.