Egypt

[Lalo77]

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.

[Intellinational1]

Dear all,

I've spent some time reading through this post and I'm frustrated by some of the exchanges. I'm not a religious person, but spiritual and very open minded and no matter what, there are hypocrites everywhere.

I have been in and out of the Middle East for the past 30 years and it bugs me to hear someone defend moslem women saying she must be a virgin and all that other crap. It's ok for a moslem man to sleep around but not a woman?! Get with the program, this is the 21st century.

The only reason anyone wanted women to cover up was because they were insecure and were afraid that other men would look at their women. Why don't the men cover themselves from head to toe and see what it feels like during the summer.

Religion=a way to live a good life and be a good person. That's the basics of ANY religion. not opression.

Although in my previous report I mentionned we are not in a religeous forum, but I would like to take this opportunity to clarify few points to fellows here:

- I know thousands of cases of women who choosed to cover their hair as a sign of "being closer to God", exactly like when a christian girl wear a cross, out of these thousands, I never came across one which was forced to do it for " her man"or her parents. It is by choice.

- It may be true that in countries which are less bedouin saharien style, more of urban life where there is no national dress that people stick proudly to it...like Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, etc, covering hair for girls or women is always by choice, while in other countries were people prefer to identify themselves by a national dress part of it covering hair ( for men and women if you noticed) but in these cases, I dont see it linked to Islam more than being linked to heritage or culture, or else why not ALL muslims cover themselves the same way? There are differences in the hair cover.

- The only places were covering the hair is by law, would be in some cities of Saudi, due to the fact that these are holly places, and Iran which is following a totally different system, but Iranian girls use top notch scarffs which make them even look better.

- I can assure you that people living in the Middle East got much more things to worry about than thinking or getting worried or discussing if they need to cover their wives' hair or not, especially these days.

Sorry if this report was too long, I tried to make it as short as I could.

[Intellinational1]

Although it has been many years I am not living in Egypt, The pics are genuine, clothes and style of these girls are typical egyptian as well as the boat coach.
From a personal view based on my experience:

These girls were very bored, just looking for fun and to spend good time.

But they wont do it for free and take the risk of going to your room except in 3 cases:

1) As a p2p, which would have involved cash (even if they got their own job, why not?).
2) She really liked you.
3) She was bored to death and nothing to do.

Talking about islamic/arabic traditions here is no point, I dont think we are in a religious forum.The only thing that shocked me related to this topic is mentionning that Muslim men (in Egypt) got women abroad "giving them sex".

For God sake, do you know what is the average salary in Egypt?Not alot would afford this option, especially if there is no point from having it, if they can get local services.

Last point I want to mention, Grand Hyatt is not very friendly when it comes to girls getting to your room.The most friendly Hotel I have ever seen in Cairo is Mariott.The Garden at the Mariott could be a good source for various material, if you have enough time to sit and watch while having a drink there.

[Gemini72]

Dear all,

I've spent some time reading through this post and I'm frustrated by some of the exchanges. I'm not a religious person, but spiritual and very open minded and no matter what, there are hypocrites everywhere.

I have been in and out of the Middle East for the past 30 years and it bugs me to hear someone defend moslem women saying she must be a virgin and all that other crap. It's ok for a moslem man to sleep around but not a woman?! Get with the program, this is the 21st century.

The only reason anyone wanted women to cover up was because they were insecure and were afraid that other men would look at their women. Why don't the men cover themselves from head to toe and see what it feels like during the summer.

Religion=a way to live a good life and be a good person. That's the basics of ANY religion. not opression.

[Lalo77]

Greetings everyone,

House sent me a PM asking that I delete his photo of the two women.

Here is my response to him and to the forum membership in general:

Are you serious? Listen to me: I am tired of these guys coming onto this site and making a big issue every time anyone dares to post a photo of a Muslim girl. I gave in to their pressure when the whole Beguile thing was happening last year, and since then they've been acting like The Forum's religious police. Personally I'm tired of this BS. They like to visit the forum to see photos of women from other cultures, but as soon as there's a photo of a Muslim girl they start singing their song "you are putting the girls in serious danger / they could be killed because of these photos / etc."

It's all bullshit.

Your photos conform to the special guidelines for photos of Muslim women taken in Muslim countries, which may be reviewed at http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...y_questions_08

That's sufficient for me, and it should be sufficient for everybody else.

Don't be intimitated by the Muslim Photo Police!

Thanks,

Jackson

Hi Jackson,

Please we know our culture good. The muslim girls photographed not necesserarly will be killed but it will be in troubles. I think you remember the trajedy of belguel in the board of Morroco. Jackson muslims of this site are not religious police and we don't enjoy seeing girls from other cultures over seeing muslim girls. But we just now how arab and islamic culture is. Please don't make it a conflict between the muslim members and other members. Religion is not a part of that

[Harem2007]

What do you know? They were cutoffs. "Green" cutoffs!

H

Now they r cutoffs? Thanx god, I thought it was a skirt You're free to post whatever you want.

Thank you

[Admin]

Greetings everyone,

House sent me a PM asking that I delete his photo of the two women.

Here is my response to him and to the forum membership in general:

Are you serious? Listen to me: I am tired of these guys coming onto this site and making a big issue every time anyone dares to post a photo of a Muslim girl. I gave in to their pressure when the whole Beguile thing was happening last year, and since then they've been acting like The Forum's religious police. Personally I'm tired of this BS. They like to visit the forum to see photos of women from other cultures, but as soon as there's a photo of a Muslim girl they start singing their song "you are putting the girls in serious danger / they could be killed because of these photos / etc."

It's all bullshit.

Your photos conform to the special guidelines for photos of Muslim women taken in Muslim countries, which may be reviewed at http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...y_questions_08

That's sufficient for me, and it should be sufficient for everybody else.

Don't be intimitated by the Muslim Photo Police!

Thanks,

Jackson

[House]

What do you know? They were cutoffs. "Green" cutoffs!

H

[Lalo77]

Well Mr House,

With all respect to your observation, I live in Egypt I know what I'm talking about. The majority of girls realy walk hair covered. And not every girl who doesn't cover her hair will be leaned toward western way of living. To harem. Yes when I looked to the pic again yes there is no green skirt in the pic. Well I don't know what to say. Please guys lets close this subject. And Mr House please delete the pic.

Thanks

[JP2U]

Its certainly possible. To meet 2 Egyptian chicks on a street who begin talking about sex shortly afterwards to a complete stranger and with one of them going back to his place to give him a free BJ. Again, its possible, just highly improbable. The chances of that happening IMO are outweighed by the chances that its BS, regardless of the pics of 2 chicks that could've been taken anywhere under a myriad of circumstances.

[Harem2007]

Well, Harem2007 you are truly a genius!! You have exposed my lies and deception. What was I thinking! With your one post, you have used the most modern forensic skills known to man to root out those who choose to deceive. Your keen observations have told you that this is not a skirt and is not green, and therefore cannot be legitimate. Also, the photos that “I TOOK” of the girl in Japan cannot be legitimate because inspector Harem2007 has determined that the hair length is different. Mr. Harem2007, go and get your eyes checked and then go back to your detective school and politely ask them for your money back.

Note: I did not take the pictures of the girl in Japan. She sent them to me, and on different days. Take the time to read, dumb ass!

H

Its ok Mr House, calm down. I just here to share contacts I was attracted by your post. When I saw the pic. Realy there is no skirt or green. Also when I see the girl in jappan I recognized the diference in the hair length. Everybody is free. Guys any contacts?

Thank you

[House]

Hi guys,

First post ever, coming to Egypt in 2 weeks wich to share experiences. But first I need some explanation from Mr House. Mr house there is no green skirt in the pic! One girl is wearing a pink cut top and a blue jeans the other is wearing black top and a gray short trouser cuted from sides. There is no green skirt in the pic? The only green colour in the pic is the colour of the sofa that the girls were sitting on. Its very clear in the pic! This post made me read your other posts in the other boards I ve discovered that the girl you ve photographed in japan her hair is not the same her hair is longer in the second pic! Mr house if you ve a nice imagination or you love to steel the experiences of the others please leave this site for the real experiences see you

Well, Harem2007 you are truly a genius!! You have exposed my lies and deception. What was I thinking! With your one post, you have used the most modern forensic skills known to man to root out those who choose to deceive. Your keen observations have told you that this is not a skirt and is not green, and therefore cannot be legitimate. Also, the photos that “I TOOK” of the girl in Japan cannot be legitimate because inspector Harem2007 has determined that the hair length is different. Mr. Harem2007, go and get your eyes checked and then go back to your detective school and politely ask them for your money back.

Note: I did not take the pictures of the girl in Japan. She sent them to me, and on different days. Take the time to read, dumb ass!

H

[Harem2007]

I'll give you the entire scoop.

As I said before, I went to the Hard Rock because I had read that there might be some action there. I stood, sat, ate, and drank on two nights with not an ounce of luck. I hung around around the Sheridan and did see a woman sitting by the ATM looking as if she had no place to go, but I didn't feel comfortable approaching her. The next day I decided to take a walk, as I had done a couple of times before. I had perviously been told by an Egyptian guy to not speak to an Egyptian woman unless they spoke first. When I took walks before I noticed women looking but not speaking, so I said nothing. This day I was on Corniche El Nil and saw these two beautiful women, and actually made eye contact with both. The dark haired one smiled (green skirt), and I smiled and said hello. I told them that I was from the States and asked if they knew of any good restaurants. That was it! They picked me up at my hotel later that day and we hung out and had a great time. These were regular girls with very good jobs. I did not bring up the topic of sex, and when they brought it up I acted as if I didn't hear it (I thought at the time that you could be arrested for having sex with an Egyptian woman!). The thing was that they KEPT bringing it up, which caused me to ask questions. They (even at close to age 30) were still living with their parents. They both said that they wanted very much to have sex, but it would cause a scandal in the family if they ever did. They even asked me what it was like. They were so open about it that I had to ask, what they considered sex. They gave me the Clinton definition of sex. At that point, I thought I might try my luck when the time was right. As we were taking a faluca ride down the Nile, I asked the dark haired one if she had time to hang out with me at my room. She agreed, but said she had a curfew. We said goodbye to her friend and off we went. I entered the hotel's main entrance, and she entered a short time later, I believe through the mall entrance (most of you have probably guessed the hotel by now). She came into the room and there was very little small talk at that point. I still keep in touch with her, but I cannot share her contact info.

That was a long story, but I hope it helps!

H

Hi guys,

First post ever, coming to Egypt in 2 weeks wich to share experiences. But first I need some explanation from Mr House. Mr house there is no green skirt in the pic! One girl is wearing a pink cut top and a blue jeans the other is wearing black top and a gray short trouser cuted from sides. There is no green skirt in the pic? The only green colour in the pic is the colour of the sofa that the girls were sitting on. Its very clear in the pic! This post made me read your other posts in the other boards I ve discovered that the girl you ve photographed in japan her hair is not the same her hair is longer in the second pic! Mr house if you ve a nice imagination or you love to steel the experiences of the others please leave this site for the real experiences see you

[House]

My trip was to Egypt was recent, and was for vacation. To protect the anonymity of the girls I will not say more. Do you know the procedure for having a photo removed.

When I visit foreign countries, I always try to let things happen and not force situations. I think this is the best way to show respect when not knowing the local customs. In my encounter, I did not initiate or push the circumstances. I simply allowed things to take their natural course. I hope that my discussions with them about my views and perspectives, didn't cause the woman to do something that she might not normally do.

You said that most women were covered, but from my observation I would say it was about 50/50. This makes me think that more women than you believe are leaning toward western ways. I think that many of these women are in conflict and have difficulty understanding why one set of rules apply to them and not others. In your own words you say that you are not "so religious", but you still cast dispersions on these women. I think that someone as intelligent as yourself must do some introspection in order to come to some type of common ground.

Lalo77, I repect your opinions and have enjoyed our discussions. Peace to you brother.

H

[Lalo77]

I respect you, your culture, and all you have said. These girls did seem to be very different from what I expected, but they were very nice people. I would never want harm to come to them, and I do request the picture be removed.

I must ask you though. If you feel this way, why do you participate in this Forum? The purpose of this site is to exchange sexually related information. If your culture and religion feels so strongly against it, what attracts you to this site? I ask this because I have traveled to all parts of the world and wish to learn as much as I can.

H

Well house. You ve asked for explanation. And you got what you want. Religion are part of the culture of the arab world. You even discover some of it when you chated with the girls. The material of this site is againaist all religions by the way and what atracted me to the site is exchanging sexual informations. I m not so religious as you can see. But tell me when did you visit Egypt? Was it business trip or a vacation?

Thanx