Egypt

[Pepin]

As a local I tell you. You will regret it.

Walk away.

Probably going to get roasted badly for this but don't care.

Westerner gringo from the States that somehow befriended a local Cairo gal 5 years ago started as pen pal I guess now we're serious.

Visited her 4 times since, but only in public areas with her parents in tow. Last visit in Feb 2022, her folks gave me ultimatum of their culture's laundry list of sealing the deal. Girl even said local men in Cairo are jerks and she's refused a handful of propositions already, if I'm willing to adapt I'm the frontrunner and she's all in.

Question for any "experts": On a scale of 1-10, how flat on my face do I fall when I explain I am aware of their culture's but I also have a culture and in my culture's requirements: That I should be allowed to try before I buy and take her out on a test spin before any long term plans as a Western ritual. If I have to send her folks off to a spa retreat across town while me and her Netflix and chill. And also for Western views if she wants me to visit Egypt again she needs to start showing some skin on these Facetime calls we have.

When I pictured long distance I was thinking Latina or Asian I never once pictured myself mingling with a Middle Eastern.

(Sorry if closure long rants) For this whole Cairo thing, I was hoping to spend my 2022 checking off remains of my unseen Hobby bucket list like Colombia, Brazil, SE Asia, Vietnam, another go at the Philippines, then start looking into long term 2023. Instead, life stalled out my travel plans so maybe grind away this coming January starting with South America then later Asia. But only divert to Egypt if she will for sure DTF.

[LionZ]

I have a chat with a doorman in European countryside (elreef el2 oroby) and I saw a young lady and he is at his 60's I thought she was her daughter but I found she is her wife I asked him, is she over 18? He told me it's only for 5000, at first I didn't manage to understand what he was saying but eventually I recognized that he was speaking about her price and telling me she is the third one to have. I am really shocked, is it easy like that to have one like that? And how it possible?

[AleksJ]

I am finishing my report. I hope this will help someone to avoid bad experiences. I must warn you. Egypt is a tourist scam country.

I have lived here for a complete season and have traveled to all tourist cities and places. During this time, I made a lot of acquaintances with locals and expats. So, I can tell not only from a tourist view.

Every Egyptian looks at you like a bag of money. No exceptions. They may seem very friendly with clear altruistic intentions, but at the end of your interactions, they ask for money or scam you. In almost all scenarios, I realized the risks and the way of scamming me before it happened. But sometimes, I continued to play just out of curiosity with hard limiting the damage.

The street guys. You may spot a lot of guys who start talking with you on the street. They may offer a lot of illegal things, including sharmotas. For example, they may offer to go to a bar or club where they know "the right girls". The scheme is pretty standard, with a few variations. He asks you to buy something for him, to look natural. Then he points you to the girls working in this place. He may introduce the girl personally. The girl also asks to buy her a drink. As she is an employee, you will be asked to wait until the bar closes, and she could go with you. While sitting there, you may be serviced by different girls. All of them will ask you for tips. Also, your bill will be ten times higher than in any bar around. Of course, she won't go with you after the bar or club closes for different reasons. This was tested dozen times.

Taxi drivers. These guys could be dangerous. They stop near you, trying to grab your attention. If you ask for contacts, they may take you to "someplace". These places are often in impoverished districts. The main rule is not to give or show money to anyone before seeing the girl and the place. The girls may not meet your expectations. Also, the driver will wait for you to finish to take you back for a huge price. Their apartments look ugly and dirty. If you have any doubts, it's better to leave. The biggest scam I faced was the sexy girl on her period. She barely spoke English, and when we came to bed, she refused to have sex. Her "manager" said he didn't know, but they are happy to make a discount next time, LOL. Of course, I didn't get any refund. All that I got is an overpriced BJ.

There have also been moments when the situation got out of control. I'm pretty confident by nature, but I had a few raised-voice talks and pokes. If it is going hard to handle, then claim to call the police. The latter removes all questions.

The dating apps. Not so fast, but the only positive experience. The tourist girls are more likely to go into ONS. Premium subscription, a few handsome photos, and you will be good.

This thread. I haven't received any contacts from any monger, so here is my gut feeling from what I read and what I got. I have doubts about the reports and assume some of them could be a part of a scam scenario.

Take care of yourself and stay vigilant.

[AleksJ]

Reporting from Hurghada. I've tried different ways and places to find contacts, but still unsuccessfully. Please, share any contacts or advices.

[Roboman]

Just a simple question. Why? Why are you even talking marriage with her or entertaining the option.

Speaking as someone who's gone this route with an Egyptian woman, what I can tell you is the majority are full of shit. They play virtuous but will end up cheating or just making your life miserable. Any respectable girl won't agree to a test shag because it means she's no longer got the title of virgin. It's also unlikely she'll agree to video sex because she'the be worried about you recording it and finding it online. You have a reasonable shit at something if you get engaged, but even then, the question is why. If you truly care for her then go ahead. But I think you made a mistake from the start by being introduced to her family. It just adds and unnecessary complication.

Probably going to get roasted badly for this but don't care.

Westerner gringo from the States that somehow befriended a local Cairo gal 5 years ago started as pen pal I guess now we're serious.

Visited her 4 times since, but only in public areas with her parents in tow. Last visit in Feb 2022, her folks gave me ultimatum of their culture's laundry list of sealing the deal. Girl even said local men in Cairo are jerks and she's refused a handful of propositions already, if I'm willing to adapt I'm the frontrunner and she's all in.

Question for any "experts": On a scale of 1-10, how flat on my face do I fall when I explain I am aware of their culture's but I also have a culture and in my culture's requirements: That I should be allowed to try before I buy and take her out on a test spin before any long term plans as a Western ritual. If I have to send her folks off to a spa retreat across town while me and her Netflix and chill. And also for Western views if she wants me to visit Egypt again she needs to start showing some skin on these Facetime calls we have.

When I pictured long distance I was thinking Latina or Asian I never once pictured myself mingling with a Middle Eastern.

(Sorry if closure long rants) For this whole Cairo thing, I was hoping to spend my 2022 checking off remains of my unseen Hobby bucket list like Colombia, Brazil, SE Asia, Vietnam, another go at the Philippines, then start looking into long term 2023. Instead, life stalled out my travel plans so maybe grind away this coming January starting with South America then later Asia. But only divert to Egypt if she will for sure DTF.

[LuvChicas]

Probably going to get roasted badly for this but don't care.

Westerner gringo from the States that somehow befriended a local Cairo gal 5 years ago started as pen pal I guess now we're serious.

Visited her 4 times since, but only in public areas with her parents in tow. Last visit in Feb 2022, her folks gave me ultimatum of their culture's laundry list of sealing the deal. Girl even said local men in Cairo are jerks and she's refused a handful of propositions already, if I'm willing to adapt I'm the frontrunner and she's all in.

Question for any "experts": On a scale of 1-10, how flat on my face do I fall when I explain I am aware of their culture's but I also have a culture and in my culture's requirements: That I should be allowed to try before I buy and take her out on a test spin before any long term plans as a Western ritual. If I have to send her folks off to a spa retreat across town while me and her Netflix and chill. And also for Western views if she wants me to visit Egypt again she needs to start showing some skin on these Facetime calls we have.

When I pictured long distance I was thinking Latina or Asian I never once pictured myself mingling with a Middle Eastern.

(Sorry if closure long rants) For this whole Cairo thing, I was hoping to spend my 2022 checking off remains of my unseen Hobby bucket list like Colombia, Brazil, SE Asia, Vietnam, another go at the Philippines, then start looking into long term 2023. Instead, life stalled out my travel plans so maybe grind away this coming January starting with South America then later Asia. But only divert to Egypt if she will for sure DTF.

IMO, I've done your bucket list and more. Finish your bucket list and then go back to Egypt. Personally, visiting Cairo and the Pyramids is on my wish list. And of course some Egyptian tail for dessert. Best wishes on your journey, Luvchicas.

[Stockholem]

Hey guys,

It been a while since I posted here, my concern is trading.

Contacts in Hurghada I have some contacts of very nice independent.

Egyptian girls and willin to trade for new contacts in Hurghada.

Am kind of in search of new Sharmota-s in Hurghada.

If you have contacts in here feel free to pm.

For details.

[OceanIsNice]

It's rare to see posts discussing such topics here, but I was motivated to reply because I think the post is insightful (I am a native Egyptian):

- "a test spin before any long term plans". From a totally pragmatic point-of-view that's apart from any culture, this is a legit request and makes sense (for both you and her too). Of course no human want to get committed in a legal long-term relation then finds himself not happy (for example got bored) after 1-2 months of marriage. In most countries marriage exit is expensive and troublesome.

- Regarding Egyptian culture about this point: I can't give you a definite answer about this, because there are a "small" percentage of Egyptians that are too liberal and practically living with western values on Egyptian land. But of course the majority of people / families will not allow any form of "test spin" before marriage. This request may even sound "offensive" for many families. There is a common word here that is "Marriage is an uncut watermelon", meaning "good luck finding if you are both happy in bed or not, only after marriage".

- Of course it's very common in many countries to find scamming girls who want to marry a westerner just to acquire nationality and relocate, so beware my friend and take time to test her true feelings. For example, tell her that for any reason she won't get US-residency or she won't relocate outside Egypt and see her reaction.

Probably going to get roasted badly for this but don't care.

Westerner gringo from the States that somehow befriended a local Cairo gal 5 years ago started as pen pal I guess now we're serious.

[Neddy69]

Probably going to get roasted badly for this but don't care.

Westerner gringo from the States that somehow befriended a local Cairo gal 5 years ago started as pen pal I guess now we're serious.

Visited her 4 times since, but only in public areas with her parents in tow. Last visit in Feb 2022, her folks gave me ultimatum of their culture's laundry list of sealing the deal. Girl even said local men in Cairo are jerks and she's refused a handful of propositions already, if I'm willing to adapt I'm the frontrunner and she's all in.

Question for any "experts": On a scale of 1-10, how flat on my face do I fall when I explain I am aware of their culture's but I also have a culture and in my culture's requirements: That I should be allowed to try before I buy and take her out on a test spin before any long term plans as a Western ritual. If I have to send her folks off to a spa retreat across town while me and her Netflix and chill. And also for Western views if she wants me to visit Egypt again she needs to start showing some skin on these Facetime calls we have.

When I pictured long distance I was thinking Latina or Asian I never once pictured myself mingling with a Middle Eastern.

(Sorry if closure long rants) For this whole Cairo thing, I was hoping to spend my 2022 checking off remains of my unseen Hobby bucket list like Colombia, Brazil, SE Asia, Vietnam, another go at the Philippines, then start looking into long term 2023. Instead, life stalled out my travel plans so maybe grind away this coming January starting with South America then later Asia. But only divert to Egypt if she will for sure DTF.

I spent the better part of 20 years in the Middle East. What you expect. In either case if she's from a good family whether Christian or Muslim you're looking at marriage. Test ride might be possible depending if she's actually virgin or "virgin". After Engagement. Maybe. The good news. After marriage you can do pretty much whatever you like. Fly around continue to shag whatever you like. Discreetly of course. Other than that. Stick with the good old sharmootas. Ah. And if she's from a Muslim family you're looking at conversion to Muslim too. No need to get circumcized. Just go to any mosque talk to the Imam. Learn the prayers and voila your conversed in a breather. One caveat. If you should ever try to convert back to Christendom. Any upright Muslim may kill you. And finally If she's from a good family she won't care too much about an US Visa. In all other cases you're just the Visa Provider. LOL.

Neddy.

[CenTexCrash]

Probably going to get roasted badly for this but don't care.

Westerner gringo from the States that somehow befriended a local Cairo gal 5 years ago started as pen pal I guess now we're serious.

Visited her 4 times since, but only in public areas with her parents in tow. Last visit in Feb 2022, her folks gave me ultimatum of their culture's laundry list of sealing the deal. Girl even said local men in Cairo are jerks and she's refused a handful of propositions already, if I'm willing to adapt I'm the frontrunner and she's all in.

Question for any "experts": On a scale of 1-10, how flat on my face do I fall when I explain I am aware of their culture's but I also have a culture and in my culture's requirements: That I should be allowed to try before I buy and take her out on a test spin before any long term plans as a Western ritual. If I have to send her folks off to a spa retreat across town while me and her Netflix and chill. And also for Western views if she wants me to visit Egypt again she needs to start showing some skin on these Facetime calls we have.

When I pictured long distance I was thinking Latina or Asian I never once pictured myself mingling with a Middle Eastern.

(Sorry if closure long rants) For this whole Cairo thing, I was hoping to spend my 2022 checking off remains of my unseen Hobby bucket list like Colombia, Brazil, SE Asia, Vietnam, another go at the Philippines, then start looking into long term 2023. Instead, life stalled out my travel plans so maybe grind away this coming January starting with South America then later Asia. But only divert to Egypt if she will for sure DTF.

[Dar3736]

Cannot find any link in the thread. Can you please message me for suggestions in Cairo. Thanks!

[Taiwan Laowai]

10 X in Egyptian Pounds. But today, 1 US $ = LE 24.5 while it was just LE 5. 9 ten years ago. So in US $ terms, it's only gone up a bit more than double, from 51 in 2012 to 122 in 2022.

She looks fantastic! Is it difficult with the help of EgyMonger to find such women at those rates and service levels?

Hey guys,

I have not posted in a very long while and thought I would contribute. Unfortunately, I am usually outside of Cairo.

I met this small sharmota through one of the Madams passed from the most senior member on ISG (EgyMonger).

Excellent GFE: DFK, BBBJ, and 69 for a long period which is my favorite starter! I was super horny and I couldn't wait so I fucked her big ass doggy. Kept chatting for a while and then went for a second round with her big ass jumping on my hard cock.

Overall not bad, but I prefer more classy sharmotas. Also the location is quite far! If someone has a contact near 6th of October please reach out.

Total Damage: LE 3000 (500 for place). The price is not bad and on par with the market but I remember paying 300 pounds 8-10 years ago for the same service. So it is 10 x.

[MizoAhmed]

Hey guys,

I have not posted in a very long while and thought I would contribute. Unfortunately, I am usually outside of Cairo.

I met this small sharmota through one of the Madams passed from the most senior member on ISG (EgyMonger).

Excellent GFE: DFK, BBBJ, and 69 for a long period which is my favorite starter! I was super horny and I couldn't wait so I fucked her big ass doggy. Kept chatting for a while and then went for a second round with her big ass jumping on my hard cock.

Overall not bad, but I prefer more classy sharmotas. Also the location is quite far! If someone has a contact near 6th of October please reach out.

Total Damage: LE 3000 (500 for place). The price is not bad and on par with the market but I remember paying 300 pounds 8-10 years ago for the same service. So it is 10 x.

[GringoItaliano]

Hello,

I will be in Hurghada for a scuba diving trip and would like to get some action on the side while I am there. Based on my RTFF research on this thread, it looks like the action in Egypt is quite scarce, even in Cairo. The information on Hurghada is even more limited. Does anyone have any leads, recommendations, or contacts for Hurghada that they would be willing to share? If I show up without any leads or contacts, where should I start looking in person? Feel free to PM me if you prefer.

Regards,

[Elbrens]

Guys. I'm back to Cairo for a couple of days. Can you advise on the latest spots to pick up WGs from the street. Used to be abbas el akkad and merghany. But I haven't been around for a while so not sure.

Ofcourse would be amazing if anyone can share a contact of a madam. I used to.

Contribute back in the day but haven't been living in Cairo recently.