Ethiopia

[Benjamina]

Guys,

I have been following your impressing posts about Addis and the gals. Now I want your help with any address of the gals you've been with. You can PM me if you happen to have any number of any good provider. I'm already in Addis and have no much time.

[GoodEnough]

I will be going there in a couple of months on business. From the reports I've gotten, there's nothing much yet established there, but, as S. Sudan is emerging as an independent country, one can always hope.

[DG69]

I'm not sure Poturu, but I could imagine that the southern part of Sudan might be the cheapest place for a fcuk. Maybe a bit dangerous but I guess cheap like no other place.;-)

[Auaind]

Don't waste your money and stay at the Sheraton or Hilton. There are so m [snip] He will show you the real Addis by night with all those small bars, better then anything else. Well, English is not spoken there very well, thats right, but you will manage as well to find a lovely young lady far from the bussiness at the Concorde or Karamara, a touristtrap.

Agreed! As a foreigner you'll never have problems with the girls especially if you stay out of the touristy places. English is a bit of a problem but with the CNN-MTV-Musicvideo invasion things are getting better.

Have fun!

AU

[Chino83]

Don't waste your money and stay at the Sheraton or Hilton. There are so many hotels around, much more fun and closer to what Ethiopia really is about. Try Ras in Churchillroad, ( 5 minutes walk to Nazreth-Pension ) Its a great place, with a lot of small bars around, but as a firsttimer, don´t go there alone. Stay at Axum-Hotel, or Queen-Sheba close to "My Pub". Stay at Holiday-Hotel, the road from there down all the way to Bole is crouded with Hotels and bars and restaurants. The "New Milk-House" is one of the best places in Addis. Concorde? Well, a good place, but the girls are expensive, nowadays too many tourist there. Don´t rent a car and drive by yourself, the traffic is a desaster and not safe, take a taxi or rent a driver for the whole day. He will show you the real Addis by night with all those small bars, better then anything else. Well, English is not spoken there very well, thats right, but you will manage as well to find a lovely young lady far from the bussiness at the Concorde or Karamara, a touristtrap.

[Mahku]

Hey Al,

You're in the Emirates too? We'll have to get together after I get back in August. Right now I'm in Singapore for the start of a 7-week Asian tour.

A month in Ethiopia sounds like a great idea. I would be there with you but for long breaks like this Asia always gets first call for me. You'll want to get out of Addis a bit and explore places like Lalibela, Bahar Dar, Harar, etc. There's goo mongering to be done there also. I only went to Lalibela myself but it wasn't hard to find company for the night there. If you go way back to the first page of this thread you'll find posts by Carlos3. He did a grand tour of Ethiopia and left an epic report on his website. Unfortunately the website is gone but I see his email address is still there. He may have good information on mongering in Ethiopia's smaller cities.

There are already some good replies to your questions so far and I'll try not to repeat.

1.Hilton or Sheraton or ?

Sheraton is quite a bit more expensive than Hilton. It will cost about US200 or more per night. Also, I wasn't impressed with the quantity or selection of girls at the Sheraton Gaslight Disco the 2 times I went there. Hilton was built in about 1969 and it shows. The US150 or so that you have to pay for the Hilton isn't such good value. It does have a nice gym and pool. Some girls will be hanging around and available to go upstairs with you. One good thing about Hilton is it's an easy downhill walk to the Milk House, which is a good place to start the evening.

The best value I had in Addis was at Ibex Hotel, which is sort of close to Bole Road. It was 40 something per night and guest friendly. I also stayed at Imperial (60 something per night), sort of close to the airport and guest friendly. I also stayed at Ghion for about 57 per night. They do charge about US15 for each guest. It has really nice grounds and a pool.

2.Rates

I always paid about 200 birr LT. This is about US23. It's possible to bargain down further but for that price and the girls being so good I didn't have the heart to push the matter.

3.Spots

Admittedly I've been stuck in a Milk House-Bole Road-Concord rut. I've had such a good time at these places that I haven't had to explore much more. I went to My Pub once late at night but didn't find much there. If you go earlier you may do better. They did have a nice old jukebox with some good tunes. Please try the other places mentioned by others and let us know how it goes.

4.Safety

I did lots of walking at night and never had a problem. Most crime is of the stealth variety rather than by force. Don't be put of by the recent news reports of riots and deaths after the elections. These happened at a university campus where you probably won't go and anyway they're pretty rare for Ethiopia. Just keep your stuff in the safe when the girl is in the room.

5.Yes, lots of AIDS in Africa. Just wear a condom.

Have fun and let us know how it goes. See you in Dubai.

[Simba2]

Al,

You may also want to check out Nazareth Penision (i think thats whats they call it) a bar in the Nazareth area. This place has hardly been mentioned in any reports. From my visits there i have always found plenty of good looking girls there. Be sure to bargain as seeing a forgeiner they surely hike up their prices. Around 150 - 250 birr can get you a LT. Also try My Pub which is a good place to Monger during the early hours of the evening.

Ehiopia is great country and very friendly, the girls there are outstandigly beautiful. I am sure you will have a great time

[Al Zachrison]

Thanks goodenough, I appreciate your advice and will post my experiences on this forum.

Al

[GoodEnough]

Al:

Some of my information may be dated, as it's been three years or so since I lived in Addis. However, I doubt that the situation has changed that much. First, stay at the Sheraton if money is not a problem. It's much nicer, and it's much more impressive to the ladies. There are women who hang out in the lobby/coffee shop area but you will probably want to do your picking up elsewhere.

Addis is very safe at night, but if you're there for a month, I would suggest renting a car. It's an easy place in which to find your way (especially to the mongering destinations) and it's a nice convenience. If you do not want to do this, cabs are plentiful and cheap, but often do not run very well.

The best pick up place, was, I'm sure still is and will likely always remain the disco at the Concord Hotel, which is about a ten minute drive at night from either the Sheraton or the Hilton. Get there after ten and your choives will be substantial. I also like Memos (pronounced Meemos) disco which is down the road from Concord. The Milk Bar is good during the early evening hours, and the Purple Coffee Shop on Bole Road during the day is an excellent spot for meeting "normal" women. In fact, Bole Road in general is a good choice for meeting strolling women during the day.

I cannot comment on the current rates. I don't think I ever paid more than about $10, but things may have changed. Also, I cannot comment accurately on the HIV rates, but this is Africa after all, so it pays to take precautions always.

You will eventually meet the entire male expat community of Addis at the Concord and/or Memos and/or the Milk Bar, and I'm sure that the guys who live there can give you more current information.

Have a great trip. The city is terrific and so are the people.



GE

[Al Zachrison]

Fellow Mongers,

While I might be a new member to this forum, I would consider myself to be an "intermediate" monger. I'm originally from the United States but currently work in Dubai. I have never been so satisfied (sexually speaking) in my life! Dubai's great for the monger! Instead of going back to the states for my annual month long vacation. I have decided to spend my entire month in Addis Abeba, Ethiopia...........of course I will be doing the usual tourist things, but mongering is at the top of my list. This would be my FIRST trip to Ethiopia (and Africa) my questions.

1. Should I stay at the Sheraton or Hilton ? where do most of the girls go?

2. What are the current ST and LT rates?

3. Where is the best pick up spot in Addis?

4. Is Addis a safe place? at night also?

5. Is it true the H.I.V rate is around 80%?

I would really appreciate everyone's comments, I have already done the "RTFF" but im still unclear, thanks!

[Chino83]

I am well aware of my limited knowledge of the English language, however, I have not said you disrespected the girl you paid 40 Birr, I just said its nothing to be proud of, you can even have it for free if you are kind. I have been to Ethiopia more than 30 times, so I certainly have my way to help people. Clothes of however good quality will not feed people. From my experience: money is never wrong. I do have a lot of friends in Addis, a lot and nowadays I even speak the language a little. So if someone has questions about Addis, I will be pleased to answer and I do not mean the Addis from the view of the Hilton, Sheraton or Ghion. I assure you I did not write my comment to offend you, so please, lets be friends.

Chino

[GoodEnough]

I agree. Acts of simple, ordiinary kindness to ordinary people goes a long way in a country in which most people stuggle to survive day to day. Unfortunately, it does little to solve the longer-term internecine conflicts, the structural problems and the tribal hatred, but that's not something any of us can deal with effectively anyway.



GE

[Trick Williams]

How much would $20 be in Ethiopian money? This is the price a friend of mine pays when he comes to Africa, where ever he goes.

[Labadi]

Mahku, thanks for your comment about the 40 BIRR. Indeed, what I paid this woman has only little to do with how I treated her. Money generally can't express the estimation and respect you show.

This girl, I had sex with, went with me for 30 min. If others paid 200 BIRR it's for a long night in most cases. So where's the difference? Just a note: a girl, working as hairdresser gets 250 - 300 BIRR a month !!

Again, respect to anybody independent from social status/ money/ race is very important to me. In my case, I bring many things (like clothes of good quality and glasses !) to the people on the street - not by giving those things to guides or taxis-drivers (who are allready privileged by their close contacts to foreigners), but I am just walking arround, transferring those things to really poor people with a smile (with waiting for a thanks).

This is only one way to show respect. All of you, who have been in african countries have knowledge of the thousands of people in need. So please, try to help them in one or another was. I do it in many ways. I thinks Sink Hole an Chino83 have their own way. That's fine.

So, let's struggle together to help those people.

[Mahku]

Well if I had a choice between guys underpaying or overpaying I would choose underpaying.

Having said that I think you guys are being a little hard on Labadi. If those girls weren't happy to take 40 birr (about $4.60) for providing the service then they don't have to go. I assume they accepted this amount willingly. It's probably what the locals pay so maybe these are new girls that haven't learned to soak the foreigners yet. Also these appear to be street walkers, maybe a step or two down in quality. So if you saw the girl you may think 40 is just about right.

Personally my floor is about 200 birr. I feel like this is a good deal for what I get. And I never skimp on the quality of girl that I choose. I know I could go cheaper but I just don't feel like I need to. Other guys may be in a different budget situation. If the market lets them test the lower reaches of the price scale who's to tell them no? You can't say that Labadi didn't treat the girls with respect because you weren't there. Let's try and find out a little more before detail before we break out the flame throwers, shall we?

On a different note, I did have one Concord girl ask me for $US300. I think I woke up the whole Ghion Hotel with my laugh.