Angola

[Member #4673]

Airport meter rate was $30.

And after all those complex arithmetic calculation of generic price not even a word about girls?

[Golfinho]

Hotels don't even ask for girls' I. The. Downtown in front of the harbor is Faias Residence at $65: quiet, new, comfortable, Portuguese-run, from where you can walk to the Epic Sana (note: where hookers are). Located in nicer area of town where are restaurants and strollable streets is Suite Hotel Maianga.

On Isla do Cabo developed areas are: Just over the bridge with hotels in $100 range, including one in the Chez Wu chain. From there, walk to The Test Private and the Club. Middle of the cabo around Naval Station and Tamariz are several places. Cervejaria Fininho was the place where older Portuguese guys are drink dining with their dates with freelancers nursing their beers. Far end is Miami beach club, dead except weekends. Restaurants start closing by 11:00 and the street and beach gets quiet — and dangerous if hearsay is to be believed. In the clubs, it's very much a cocktail culture, with some real original concoctions. Beer is cheap. There are small beer bars all the the beach, especially weekends where it's packed (somewhat Brazilian style).

Note: there is NO tourism here in this city, hence no ground zero. Foreigners are here for work, and Portuguese have their businesses (and Angolan wives and kids a lot of them). If you get a tip on a disco somewhere in the city, there is the transportation issue to overcome, plus the likelihood of being the only muzunga in the place. Cabo is fully stocked with what you want. BTW: the typical Angolan body here (before ruined by childbirth) is as outstanding as they come anywhere. Suprisingly, there was little street action, probably because the young Angolan guys are all over any good-looking girl like a pack of hyenas.

The Kwanzaa: can get some at the airport in Lisbon. Supposedly you're only allowed to bring into the country amount of 50,000, which is like 80€.

In Luanda, ask at your hotel and they'll call a moneychanger over for you. Rate was 58,000 for 100 USD. You're not allowed (supposedly) to take any out of the country (not that you'the want to) and note at the airport cambios the only currency they had on offer for which to change your kwanzaas was DRC money. There guys outside who'll change for you or you can get rid of them in the airport shops, which are surprisingly decent for souvenirs and local products.

Airbnb option is likely located in a 50-year-old Portuguese apartment block. Or neighborhood you might not want to be in. But, if you're a connoisseur of these places, why not go for it.

[Golfinho]

No longer the 'most expensive city in the world'. Photo of view from $48 a night penthouse room in front of the beach at Isla do Cabo.

Can something cheaper be found? Probably — consult Noddy's A Dirtbag's Guide to Africa. Other expense commodities: lunch 2-3 dollars; big bottle of water 30 cents; beer $1-2; ride to beach or around town in blue and white taxi van 25 cents; ride on Angolan girl all night - 50% of whatever she quotes you.

Basic info: with visa on arrival, first present your Yellow Fever cert, then go to small office to pay $120 fee and get stamped. No need to stand in immigration line. To avoid airport taxi ripoff: either arrange in advance with hotel, or walk outside airport and get one on street (not advised after dark). Metered Taxis in Luanda are expensive: always get a fixed price. Everyone you meet will recommend their guy or offer to call a trusted taxi for you: do it. I got an airport ride this way for $4 when the Airport meter rate was $30.

[Golfinho]

The visa authorization was received only one day after applying. Cost will be 120 usd payable at arrival. Interestingly, it seems to allow multiple entries, with the date range of 120 days, maximum 30 days for any one stay. For hotel, an airbnb reservation (not yet prepaid) was sufficient. Too easy, really.

[Slowalk]

Any advice for any other hotel

Airbnb may be your best option because hotels also use the site now. You can contact hotels direct and tell them what you are willing to pay. I've been following some of the "Nomads" who budget travel. Nomadic Matt is one who recommends Booking.com and a few other sites. He puts discount codes on his site. Try similar sites. Don't even bother with Andy from Hobo Traveler. The bad thing about Google and other search engines is that the sites that list first in a query use companies to constantly query them to keep them at or near the top. The best sites are buried deep in the wwworld. I'm still trying to dig them out. Sorry I can't be more definite.

[Member #4717]

I believe that Ebic Sana Luanda Hotel is the only published place to have the magical combination of a nightclub with girls and a hotel in the same place.

My main problem about Ebic Sana that it's too expensive on my usual travel package.

Any advice for any other hotel with the magical hotel+nightclub option (even if the nightclub / bar is not in the same building).

I'm looking for the hotels with rates under the 100 usd.

Tried to google, TripAdvisor and even wikisexguid and l useless for Luanda.

This is a little strange for me, as usually I find this option in other African countries like Ethiopia, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, and even in Dubai, but for some reason I can't find it in Luanda.

Any advice?

[JonesLover]

As I was in Portugal they understood my Spanish well, so knowing Spanish is an advantage. I think the best you can do, is to socialize with your co-workers, locals and also expats like you. There are many facilities for entertainment.

I never was in Angola, but I have done some research in the internet. Here some facts:

- There is a quite big expat community long term and on short assignment like you. There is also a small wealthy upper class and some professionals. There is much more wealth in Luanda than Kampala. So many hotspots to cater to their needs.

- Generally speaking in Luanda there is the CBD where is the modern city and there most of the expats are working and living.

Then most of the entertainment is at the Ilha and Barra. Nearby there are some small neighbourhoods for the middle class.

Thank you for your interesting reply. But it is so interesting for many people but not for me. In fact even if I dint't ever go to Angola I know enough the answers of your suggestions. I read a lot about Angola and just for this I asked precise questions. But it seems no one can reply them. Only Smoothy could answer every my question in detailed way, but he goes online so rarely. Anyway I have no friends in Angola or even a coworker or colleague. For this reason I always asked, asked, asked the same questions without precise replies. I don't like pro, I don't like bars, I don't like discos, I don't like nightlife but certainly I can do all this sometimes. For all these reasons I have been asking for the behavior of the girls of Angola for several times. I'd like to talk with some girls for one month before my arrival in Angola, to choose 2-3 girls, the most beautiful and comfortable of them and to spend a vacation together for a full time. In all other African countries, not only girls answer "yes", but all them hope to spend many days together for full time. After a month of talking to Angolan girls, I still haven't figured out whether they can or want do it or not. For this I probably, I will make my work in Angola, and immediately I will flee from Angola. I don't like their culture at all, until a guy who knows well Angola makes me change my mind.

[Taurus1]

Yes, I write Portuguese even if I don't speak well. I speak fluent Spanish too. However I am noticing that Angolan girls usually connect rarely and no more than every 2-3 days. Also for this reason it is difficult to talk to them. But I'm seeing that they are fussy. It isn't so easy to have them take a few days off to be able to stay together for full time.

As I was in Portugal they understood my Spanish well, so knowing Spanish is an advantage. I think the best you can do, is to socialize with your co-workers, locals and also expats like you. There are many facilities for entertainment.

I never was in Angola, but I have done some research in the internet. Here some facts:

- There is a quite big expat community long term and on short assignment like you. There is also a small wealthy upper class and some professionals. There is much more wealth in Luanda than Kampala. So many hotspots to cater to their needs.

- Generally speaking in Luanda there is the CBD where is the modern city and there most of the expats are working and living.

Then most of the entertainment is at the Ilha and Barra. Nearby there are some small neighbourhoods for the middle class.

The vast majority of the people is living in the slums around. Around 20 and more kms. Out of the city centre the Chinese have built.

Very big urbanizations for the middle class. Many vacant sites, and blocks in disrepair. Quite a lot of crime also, therefore no need.

To go there for cheap fling.

The social classes are more or less separated so you cannot walk around like in Kampal and mingling everywhere.

- Brazilian influence, so good nightlife, for sure more sofisticated than Kampala, also call girl services available with Brazilians.

And local mulatas. Expensive.

Look on youtube the songs of the band Irmaos Verdades. They play various songs with kizomba mix. The girls in the clips are gorgeous.

It is a pity that there are so few of them! My prefered song is: Yara.

[JonesLover]

Did you write to them in their language: Portuguese! Maybe that's the secret of the silence of the girls. !

Yes, I write Portuguese even if I don't speak well. I speak fluent Spanish too. However I am noticing that Angolan girls usually connect rarely and no more than every 2-3 days. Also for this reason it is difficult to talk to them. But I'm seeing that they are fussy. It isn't so easy to have them take a few days off to be able to stay together for full time.

[John Auro]

Friends, I'm very disappointed with Angola. It is impossible to talk to Angolan girls. T.......................ls.

Did you write to them in their language: Portuguese! Maybe that's the secret of the silence of the girls. !

[JonesLover]

Friends, I'm very disappointed with Angola. It is impossible to talk to Angolan girls. They all want to know you and meet you, but then nobody writes me to know each other in the coming days. So I don't know what kind of girls there are in Angola. I need to know it before my departing. I will have to buy the ticket in 10-15 days and if no one answers in an exhaustive way to my questions that I asked in my previous posts, after my work in Angola, I will run away from this hateful country very quickly. Maybe it is hateful only in appearance and living there for a month, it could enter into your heart. But since I'll have to buy the ticket soon, then I won't be able to modify it anymore and I won't be able to do any post about Angola. For now I can say that Angola is definitely not for me. Any other African country is an earthly heaven compared to Angola. I can talk with every girl in the world but not with Angolan girls.

[JonesLover]

https://m.facebook.com/public/Prostitutas-de-Luanda

And I know now places where you can pull chicas for the prices the locals pay. 3000 to 5000 kwanzas.

Neddy,

I never will fuck a pro. I hope you understand me. For me it is important to know how much do I have to spend on gifts or cash for regular girls who spend the night with me or an entire afternoon with me. For me, knowing this is important because if I will change even 7-8 girls in 20 days I will spend a lot of money. Do you understand it now?

[Neddy69]

https://m.facebook.com/public/Prostitutas-de-Luanda

I just found that. Be aware that prostitution is illegal in Angola. LOL. And I know now places where you can pull chicas for the prices the locals pay. 3000 to 5000 kwanzas.

Neddy.

And. Nao fala portugues. Hehehe.

[JonesLover]

I don't know man. The main thing I loved about Luanda was the wild party atmosphere. Even during the day on my days off we were taking boats out to a little island there, traveling by car sight seeing, or going to the beach to girl watch. I can't imagine spending all day at home there. That is definitely not my scene. Finding a girl should not be a problem. But, I am curious how it works out for you. This is definitely not a modern city.

I ask you the last questions hoping you can answer me. I will travel alone in Angola and it will be a new world for me.

1) Do regular girls watch out for the huge age gap, more that other African countries?

2) In Luanda, if a regular girl is with me for the whole day and even at night, how much money could I give her if I like to give her money?

I already know that your behavior is different from mine but I'd like to understand better the Angolan prices and the difference with Uganda. Thank you.

[Smoothy]

I'm old, I like quiet relationships. I don't like parties and night clubs and I don't like a lot to drink. I like to rest, to be with my GF in my apartment for a lot of time and to play together.

I don't know man. The main thing I loved about Luanda was the wild party atmosphere. Even during the day on my days off we were taking boats out to a little island there, traveling by car sight seeing, or going to the beach to girl watch. I can't imagine spending all day at home there. That is definitely not my scene. Finding a girl should not be a problem. But, I am curious how it works out for you. This is definitely not a modern city.