Rwanda

[Golds]

They lie selectively. Not randomly. A lie always serves a purpose. Very popular lies. A selection.

Lies to get money.

My smartphone was stolen / broken etc. The absolute classic my favourite. If you buy them a smartphone they want you to buy a new one. Usually they sell them and than ask for a new one. I know a mate who went through 11 of them in a years span.

Or also very popular.

My uncle / father / mother is sick or has died. Cash for funeral or hospital is reqired. I can go on and on. I know dozens of sob stories I came across.

The answer for me is easy. I also lie. And its surprisingly simple. I have no money. This every african understands perfectly well as this is the normal condition. Translated that means. I have no money to waste on you.

They lie not to hurt or disappoint you. The chicas all have black Boyfriends. Of course they will not tell you. You ll even get to meet them. Very popular they say oh thats a cousin or " brother" or " sister". When you are not around the black brother shags your " GF".So rest assured they cheat on you. Thats the system.

Neddy.

Then I have an immense problem going to an African country.

I never can say no to a woman.

[Member #4673]

they weren't completely wrong.

Kenya is world leader even if you go to hotels they will tell you we have hot water. When you check the shower you will see the heating device so its sound logical isn't it? Wrong. The life span of the heaters is 6 month and there is no maintenance in africa so the "be-tich" will pretend to be surprised and tell you to move room. Of Course all room has heaters that don't work. Often the receptionist can raised the price in order to take the extra cash.

2 AM- someone in the opposite side of my building raised the music volume to a level that the sound can take down a commercial flight. I went and ask to put it down. Fat girl told me go back to my country and from there continue to hell. Thank you enjoy you music as shortly I pull the main fuse from the electrical closet and throw it to the dark. Silence. Next day no noise. Message received. Cost of repairing very high.

Motorbikes are stolen from the residential building at night. The guard saw nothing. Welcome to Mtwapa. From pussy paradise from the year 2000 up to 2010 all are gone. Hotel price went up enormously. Tourist stops to come but price doesn't went down to balance it.

Uganda as I remember is is far more sane around. Better people, less commercial altitude significantly less lies and still has the fun factor that Kenya lost. As far as I remember about the time when Tembo disco in mombasa was close everything die. But up to that point it was one of the best places in the world.

In a few days I will be in Ethiopia and Kampala. Maybee more up to date stories hope a good ones with less complins.

[BobBlack]

They lie selectively. Not randomly. A lie always serves a purpose. Very popular lies. A selection.

Lies to get money.

My smartphone was stolen / broken etc. The absolute classic my favourite. If you buy them a smartphone they want you to buy a new one. Usually they sell them and than ask for a new one. I know a mate who went through 11 of them in a years span.

Or also very popular.

My uncle / father / mother is sick or has died. Cash for funeral or hospital is reqired. I can go on and on. I know dozens of sob stories I came across.

The answer for me is easy. I also lie. And its surprisingly simple. I have no money. This every african understands perfectly well as this is the normal condition. Translated that means. I have no money to waste on you.

They lie not to hurt or disappoint you. The chicas all have black Boyfriends. Of course they will not tell you. You ll even get to meet them. Very popular they say oh thats a cousin or " brother" or " sister". When you are not around the black brother shags your " GF".So rest assured they cheat on you. Thats the system.

Neddy.

Neddy, you have that explanation off to a tee, spot on, with some others excuses missed, but to newbies it's an excellent warning.

[Neddy69]

The first time I visited Africa, I went to Ghana. After a few days, I considered testing a business and met with some expats living there for business. It was a mixed group, Germans, Brits, Canadians, Americans, Indians, Brazilian, men, women, white and black. To the person, they told me: Before you do any business in Africa, the first fact you absolutely must understand is "Africans Lie" Over and over they repeated the warning. At first I was disappointed with them. However, after many years, they weren't completely wrong.

They lie selectively. Not randomly. A lie always serves a purpose. Very popular lies. A selection.

Lies to get money.

My smartphone was stolen / broken etc. The absolute classic my favourite. If you buy them a smartphone they want you to buy a new one. Usually they sell them and than ask for a new one. I know a mate who went through 11 of them in a years span.

Or also very popular.

My uncle / father / mother is sick or has died. Cash for funeral or hospital is reqired. I can go on and on. I know dozens of sob stories I came across.

The answer for me is easy. I also lie. And its surprisingly simple. I have no money. This every african understands perfectly well as this is the normal condition. Translated that means. I have no money to waste on you.

They lie not to hurt or disappoint you. The chicas all have black Boyfriends. Of course they will not tell you. You ll even get to meet them. Very popular they say oh thats a cousin or " brother" or " sister". When you are not around the black brother shags your " GF".So rest assured they cheat on you. Thats the system.

Neddy.

[Slowalk]

Couple of times? Its more 24/7 non stop lies about everything small as big....
Welcome to the kingdom of lies and stealing.

The first time I visited Africa, I went to Ghana. After a few days, I considered testing a business and met with some expats living there for business. It was a mixed group, Germans, Brits, Canadians, Americans, Indians, Brazilian, men, women, white and black. To the person, they told me: Before you do any business in Africa, the first fact you absolutely must understand is "Africans Lie" Over and over they repeated the warning. At first I was disappointed with them. However, after many years, they weren't completely wrong.

[Golds]

Golds. Take a tip from an African. For your first time to Africa. Cape Town. South Africa. First world facilities, you will have a wonderful holiday besides all the Gold ass you going to to have. I have been to Kenya many times, the amenities are terrible compared.

Cape Town is safe compared if you use common sense.

Is Cape town a monger desination?

[AfAsia]

Will be my first time in black Africa. Read a lot of stuff on this forum. Difficult to make a choice. Leaning more to the Eastern side of Africa. Not really fan of bars and clubs. More GFE oriented.

Golds. Take a tip from an African. For your first time to Africa. Cape Town. South Africa. First world facilities, you will have a wonderful holiday besides all the Gold ass you going to to have. I have been to Kenya many times, the amenities are terrible compared.

Cape Town is safe compared if you use common sense.

[Neddy69]

Couple of times? Its more 24/7 non stop lies about everything small as big. Here is small example.

I did some photo shoot with a model in my house then just before she went back it was rainy as hell so she asked an umbrella for the heavy rain since she was a working class girl and I got her ID photographed. I told her that if she steal my umbrella I will go to the police. She said what's wrong with you you are totally fucked why I respond in stealing for someone that try to help me. Logical statement?

I gave her the umbrella from the next day she didn't respond to my text asking her to give back my umbrella. Since I was a resident my principle was very clear that no one is going to fuck with me.

After two month I saw her walking near posta. I hold her and told her we are going to the police. Don't worry I was busy you will get it tomorrow.

She carries a big bag. Open the bag *****! She refused this is personal. I force her to open the bag and I saw my umbrella. LOL get the fuck out of here.

But they lie about everything. In Kenya if you give even the lowest cost item possible without knowing where she live you will never see it again.

Welcome to the kingdom of lies and stealing.

Hey. Thats not stealing. They borrow all the time and just forget conveniently to return it. And don't forget. On weekend they can see the pastor to ask for forgiveness of their sins. Its common for the chicas to liberate complete household furniture. If you let them live in your apartment you might find it upon return empty. Maybe she leaves you a mattress to sleep on. Happened to me and countless other blokes. Never say when you come or go. Even the landlady borrowed my brandnew fridge freezer combination while I was in Europe. Welcome to Mtwapa. One of my rules is. NO live-in Girlfriend.

Neddy.

[Member #4673]

Go to Mombasa North Coast. Train there be ripped off and lied to a couple of times,

Neddy.

Couple of times? Its more 24/7 non stop lies about everything small as big. Here is small example.

I did some photo shoot with a model in my house then just before she went back it was rainy as hell so she asked an umbrella for the heavy rain since she was a working class girl and I got her ID photographed. I told her that if she steal my umbrella I will go to the police. She said what's wrong with you you are totally fucked why I respond in stealing for someone that try to help me. Logical statement?

I gave her the umbrella from the next day she didn't respond to my text asking her to give back my umbrella. Since I was a resident my principle was very clear that no one is going to fuck with me.

After two month I saw her walking near posta. I hold her and told her we are going to the police. Don't worry I was busy you will get it tomorrow.

She carries a big bag. Open the bag *****! She refused this is personal. I force her to open the bag and I saw my umbrella. LOL get the fuck out of here.

But they lie about everything. In Kenya if you give even the lowest cost item possible without knowing where she live you will never see it again.

Welcome to the kingdom of lies and stealing.

[Muzungufotsy]

Of course. Any place. Any time. Its Africa man. Try your luck with the waitresses in Kigali Heights. When you ask for the bill. Ask her to write her phone number. Loads of sweet young university students in need of funding. I go only to massage parlors to get a massage.

Neddy.

At Kigali Heights the meal might cost more than the waitress.

[Neddy69]

Thanks Ned. Will be my first time in black Africa. Read a lot of stuff on this forum. Difficult to make a choice. Leaning more to the Eastern side of Africa. Not really fan of bars and clubs. More GFE oriented.

For first timer I cannot recommend Rwanda. Go to Mombasa North Coast. Train there be ripped off and lied to a couple of times, than after 2 years Training you can do the advanced countries.

Neddy.

[Golds]

Of course. Any place. Any time. Its Africa man. Try your luck with the waitresses in Kigali Heights. When you ask for the bill. Ask her to write her phone number. Loads of sweet young university students in need of funding. I go only to massage parlors to get a massage.

Neddy.

Thanks Ned. Will be my first time in black Africa. Read a lot of stuff on this forum. Difficult to make a choice. Leaning more to the Eastern side of Africa. Not really fan of bars and clubs. More GFE oriented.

[Neddy69]

Is this the only way to play the Kigali game?

Looking for massage places?

I thought it was a candy box. Picking up girls in day time is not possible?

Of course. Any place. Any time. Its Africa man. Try your luck with the waitresses in Kigali Heights. When you ask for the bill. Ask her to write her phone number. Loads of sweet young university students in need of funding. I go only to massage parlors to get a massage.

Neddy.

[Golds]

Have been mongering all over Kigali and now heading back home. Wish to share new experiences before I leave because Kigali is my second home now regarding punting.

Please read my previous posts to have a comprehensive picture of punting mapping as I am going to share new locations.

- Great season hotel at Kagugu at Kigali, Gacuriro / Gasabo District, KG 383 Street. There is a MP inside this hotel. Go straight to reception that will take you to the spa reception. I had a chance to meet a girl (forgot her name because she has a lot of boundaries because of her religious beliefs) to have a very nice massage but very strict with no extra. I insisted to the limits but she categorically refused but I could coalesce her with additional fee. I could read her face she regretted offering just a hand release and get a small tip. Price: 10 K RWF for a relax massage.

- A MP at KG 412 Street. I had a body scrub for just 15 K. You can pay with your electronic card. At the end of the session, the lady said they offer extra massage including BJ and hand release but I was not interested because the lady did not fit my taste; It is a residential house turned into a MP with average ladies with good English. I will try next time another girl.

- A MP in CHIC Complex at KN 2 Avenue. It is called "Lang Lang". Just enter at the gate at the end of the complex facing the main Kigali down town tax rank. Go to floor 2, you will think it is a Chinese one but the lady therapist told me it is owned by a local and employs local girls. Good massage with scenting oil with a clean bathroom and toilet. However, my lady was talking blabla about challenges of her business (8 years) for men asking for extra services and I was annoyed by these stories. I told her to leave it but she has no choice. I could not ask more with such attitude; Price: 15 K-20 K for a Swedish massage.

- MP at KN 3RD Grand Legacy Hotel. Very discreet and cute girls. But the lady I met in the afternoon was not for extra.

- Nyamirambo KN 2 AV at former Sun City Hotel. It was around 18:45. I just enquired about the service then a slim lady fluent in French and English called Lina took me to the room. Room was untidy and business has started for two weeks. The massage was overall decent. The lady did a very nice pelvic massage and I released happily. I could touch her body and she is very strict as I was not allowed to touch her notch. Damage: only 5 K. Will revisit her for fuck fingering.

- Lebanon Hotel at KG 213St. I had once a nice massage for 5 K but I did like the big woman was and her communication skills and I did not ask for any extra.

So folks, I am sure you can get what you want from the list. Just address your needs politely and exploit the poverty these ladies are enduring to explore the most squirting women of the planet.

Is this the only way to play the Kigali game?

Looking for massage places?

I thought it was a candy box. Picking up girls in day time is not possible?

[Univelton]

Have been mongering all over Kigali and now heading back home. Wish to share new experiences before I leave because Kigali is my second home now regarding punting.

Please read my previous posts to have a comprehensive picture of punting mapping as I am going to share new locations.

- Great season hotel at Kagugu at Kigali, Gacuriro / Gasabo District, KG 383 Street. There is a MP inside this hotel. Go straight to reception that will take you to the spa reception. I had a chance to meet a girl (forgot her name because she has a lot of boundaries because of her religious beliefs) to have a very nice massage but very strict with no extra. I insisted to the limits but she categorically refused but I could coalesce her with additional fee. I could read her face she regretted offering just a hand release and get a small tip. Price: 10 K RWF for a relax massage.

- A MP at KG 412 Street. I had a body scrub for just 15 K. You can pay with your electronic card. At the end of the session, the lady said they offer extra massage including BJ and hand release but I was not interested because the lady did not fit my taste; It is a residential house turned into a MP with average ladies with good English. I will try next time another girl.

- A MP in CHIC Complex at KN 2 Avenue. It is called "Lang Lang". Just enter at the gate at the end of the complex facing the main Kigali down town tax rank. Go to floor 2, you will think it is a Chinese one but the lady therapist told me it is owned by a local and employs local girls. Good massage with scenting oil with a clean bathroom and toilet. However, my lady was talking blabla about challenges of her business (8 years) for men asking for extra services and I was annoyed by these stories. I told her to leave it but she has no choice. I could not ask more with such attitude; Price: 15 K-20 K for a Swedish massage.

- MP at KN 3RD Grand Legacy Hotel. Very discreet and cute girls. But the lady I met in the afternoon was not for extra.

- Nyamirambo KN 2 AV at former Sun City Hotel. It was around 18:45. I just enquired about the service then a slim lady fluent in French and English called Lina took me to the room. Room was untidy and business has started for two weeks. The massage was overall decent. The lady did a very nice pelvic massage and I released happily. I could touch her body and she is very strict as I was not allowed to touch her notch. Damage: only 5 K. Will revisit her for fuck fingering.

- Lebanon Hotel at KG 213St. I had once a nice massage for 5 K but I did like the big woman was and her communication skills and I did not ask for any extra.

So folks, I am sure you can get what you want from the list. Just address your needs politely and exploit the poverty these ladies are enduring to explore the most squirting women of the planet.