Zambia

[Tottem]

Do you still believe in Santa Claus?

1. Beauty: 1 to 5.

This depends on individuals, Personally I love Rwandans. Slim, tall, perky book, sharp nose.

Ugandan girls have mostly ugly face with solid body. Most girls have kids in teen age and boob are hanging (Such a turn off).

Kenya, Tanzania and Zambia have similar traits of slim, perky boobs and okayish round ass. Kenyan and Zambian girls had firm boobs but Tanzania was such a disappointment.

2. P4 P (Willingness of locals fuck a white stranger): 1 to 5 (unlikely to very likely).

That is 5 across all countries. Whether you meet them in a bar, Tinder or Facebook. I am brown American and I have it very easy. I like to hunt and bar servers, waiters, girls working in mall etc have been super easy to score.

3. Young P4 P (Ease in finding 18-23 year olds willing to fuck a stranger) 1 to 5.

That is available everywhere but the reason Zambia stood out for me was because how easy it was to access Univ / College girls. In most other countries, Tinder is filled with Pros and semi pros. Same with clubs. In Lusaka, Tinder is full of Univ girls. I mostly went to Club Chicago, Qube (High end rich kids club) It was full of easy picking college girls.

4. BBFS: 1-5 (impossible to highly possible).

5, Never have any problem for BBFS. I keep HIV test kits, and make sure to test girls. But then rarely someone has said no to BBFS.

5. Prices: 1-5 (expensive to cheap).

$20-$30 max. The only time I paid $40 was to a girl in Zambia (Won beauty queen contest and Final yr Medical student).

I bring a lot of chocolates. Mars, Kitkat etc are a luxury to them. Set their mood right.

6. GFE: 1-5 (bitchy pros to total GFE).

There were may be 2-3 instances among all countries I visited, I had bitchy pros, I kick them out with half pay (to avoid drama).

A little conversation, treat them with respect, If student, talk about their possibility to move USA / Canada, Some chocolate and glass of wine and they will treat you like a king.

7. Anal 1-5 (impossible to common).

Had one in Tanzania but then I am not too interested in Anal so never asked.

Now Lusaka Specific:

Stay in Proteas hotel (its quite good) with pool and casino. It is 5 min walk to East Park Mall. Univ are is also pretty close.

East Park Mall has a lot of good food options and Clubs like Chicago, Dcapo and Al Capone. A lot of College girls hang out here, easy to be picked up. Foreigners presence is very limited so they are always eager to hook up.

This overall makes hunting quite convenient. Also being close to variety of food options and clubs make life a lot easier.

I hope this helps.

[MysteryOcean]

Wonderful detailed response. Thank you MO!

And, in your experience do these place have proper bordellos where there a good selection of girls specifically there for P4P. Im sure part of your answer will be that you prefer and find it easy to just pick them up, but sometimes, I prefer the shooting fish in a barrel approach. Especially works well if there is a mamasan-culture who will help a monger find the type of girl he is seeking. Where does that exist? Cheers!

No Idea about that but pretty much, All the bar servers, girls having drinks in clubs are all on the menu. That's what I liked. Plenty of good looking girls. I type a message on my phone:

"Hey you're the most stunning girl in the club or you got a magical smile, I would love to buy you a drink" or I would love to take you out for a dinner date " and pass on the phone to the girl to read.

They will read the message, look at you, lock your eyes and smile, and game on. 99% they will write their number or ask you to buy them a drink.

The reason I don't look for mamasan kind of thing, they offer services on site, and on site service in African countries are for poor people and places are filthy. I prefer to bring them over to my room, treat them with chocolate, wine, pizza. Once they are stuffed and drunk, which is total luxury for them, they wouldn't want this moment to end.

A lot of senior monger here talk about how cheap pussy they can get but for me, if I am travelling half world, spending over thousand in flight ticket, use my limited free days, I want a premium experience.

My facebook account have over 1200 girls connection from my African target countries. I often keep in touch and lately that has improved my game significantly. Its the easiest way to get hot, non pro girl, who you made friend with and now waiting for you.

[SteelBaton]

I've checked google, but get no hits for these places. Said to be in Chawama. I'the be interested in know if they are still open / renamed / closed. Or, if there are similar bordello-type places. The report below, from 2017, implied a good variety of quality girls.

The place quoted is Katete lodge. There is another lodge closeby. Bulawayo lodge. Mostly Zimbabwean chicks or Zambians from villages. I have been there many times. The location is Chawama. Very close to Kuku Market. You go in, choose your girl and jump into the room. Hygiene conditions are bad. But if you need for 20 minutes. You can manage. Never pay more than 50 Kwacha here. Some girls make that in a week.

[SteelBaton]

Wonderful detailed response. Thank you MO!

And, in your experience do these place have proper bordellos where there a good selection of girls specifically there for P4P. I’m sure part of your answer will be that you prefer and find it easy to just pick them up, but sometimes, I prefer the shooting fish in a barrel approach. Especially works well if there is a mamasan-culture who will help a monger find the type of girl he is seeking. Where does that exist? Cheers!

1. Beauty: 1 to 5.

This depends on individuals, Personally I love Rwandans. Slim, tall, perky book, sharp nose.

Ugandan girls have mostly ugly face with solid body. Most girls have kids in teen age and boob are hanging (Such a turn off).

Kenya, Tanzania and Zambia have similar traits of slim, perky boobs and okayish round ass. Kenyan and Zambian girls had firm boobs but Tanzania was such a disappointment.

2. P4 P (Willingness of locals fuck a white stranger): 1 to 5 (unlikely to very likely).

That is 5 across all countries. Whether you meet them in a bar, Tinder or Facebook. I am brown American and I have it very easy. I like to hunt and bar servers, waiters, girls working in mall etc have been super easy to score.


I hope this helps.

[MysteryOcean]

Thanks for the reply.

I have visited Kenya and Capetown, so I'm more likely interested in West Africa, but Mystery Ocean is a really big booster of Zambia and says there a many hot and young students and it is his current favorite place in the sub-Saharan. Anyone who has experience with many countries in Africa holds some credibility with me!

As for mamas or not. Over 25 years of mongering, I find there is usually a big difference in the shape and condition of the bodies. Saggy tits and belly are just a turnoff to me. I prefer younger and fresher and am happy to pay more for that if it's on offer.

I would love to see someone rank and compare the various countries grading on:

1. Beauty: 1 to 5.

2. P4 P (Willingness of locals fuck a white stranger): 1 to 5 (unlikely to very likely).

3. Young P4 P (Ease in finding 18-23 year olds willing to fuck a stranger) 1 to 5.

4. BBFS: 1-5 (impossible to highly possible).

5. Prices: 1-5 (expensive to cheap).

6. GFE: 1-5 (bitchy pros to total GFE).

7. Anal 1-5 (impossible to common).

Do you have multiple country experiences? What would you say?

1. Beauty: 1 to 5.

This depends on individuals, Personally I love Rwandans. Slim, tall, perky book, sharp nose.

Ugandan girls have mostly ugly face with solid body. Most girls have kids in teen age and boob are hanging (Such a turn off).

Kenya, Tanzania and Zambia have similar traits of slim, perky boobs and okayish round ass. Kenyan and Zambian girls had firm boobs but Tanzania was such a disappointment.

2. P4 P (Willingness of locals fuck a white stranger): 1 to 5 (unlikely to very likely).

That is 5 across all countries. Whether you meet them in a bar, Tinder or Facebook. I am brown American and I have it very easy. I like to hunt and bar servers, waiters, girls working in mall etc have been super easy to score.

3. Young P4 P (Ease in finding 18-23 year olds willing to fuck a stranger) 1 to 5.

That is available everywhere but the reason Zambia stood out for me was because how easy it was to access Univ / College girls. In most other countries, Tinder is filled with Pros and semi pros. Same with clubs. In Lusaka, Tinder is full of Univ girls. I mostly went to Club Chicago, Qube (High end rich kids club) It was full of easy picking college girls.

4. BBFS: 1-5 (impossible to highly possible).

5, Never have any problem for BBFS. I keep HIV test kits, and make sure to test girls. But then rarely someone has said no to BBFS.

5. Prices: 1-5 (expensive to cheap).

$20-$30 max. The only time I paid $40 was to a girl in Zambia (Won beauty queen contest and Final yr Medical student).

I bring a lot of chocolates. Mars, Kitkat etc are a luxury to them. Set their mood right.

6. GFE: 1-5 (bitchy pros to total GFE).

There were may be 2-3 instances among all countries I visited, I had bitchy pros, I kick them out with half pay (to avoid drama).

A little conversation, treat them with respect, If student, talk about their possibility to move USA / Canada, Some chocolate and glass of wine and they will treat you like a king.

7. Anal 1-5 (impossible to common).

Had one in Tanzania but then I am not too interested in Anal so never asked.

Now Lusaka Specific:

Stay in Proteas hotel (its quite good) with pool and casino. It is 5 min walk to East Park Mall. Univ are is also pretty close.

East Park Mall has a lot of good food options and Clubs like Chicago, Dcapo and Al Capone. A lot of College girls hang out here, easy to be picked up. Foreigners presence is very limited so they are always eager to hook up.

This overall makes hunting quite convenient. Also being close to variety of food options and clubs make life a lot easier.

I hope this helps.

[SteelBaton]

SteelBaton.

I'm African, never been to Zambia. What is it with Zambia that appeals to you, this is a question you need to answer for yourself. Rather go to Kenya or South Africa as a 1st time visit to Africa, my opinion. You state that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, why then take the advice of Guys who were disappointed.

Most young girls are going to tell you a porky about being a Mom, why is this of importance to you, stretch marks, hell, I cannot tell at times.

Thanks for the reply.

I have visited Kenya and Capetown, so I'm more likely interested in West Africa, but Mystery Ocean is a really big booster of Zambia and says there a many hot and young students and it is his current favorite place in the sub-Saharan. Anyone who has experience with many countries in Africa holds some credibility with me!

As for mamas or not. Over 25 years of mongering, I find there is usually a big difference in the shape and condition of the bodies. Saggy tits and belly are just a turnoff to me. I prefer younger and fresher and am happy to pay more for that if it's on offer.

I would love to see someone rank and compare the various countries grading on:

1. Beauty: 1 to 5.

2. P4 P (Willingness of locals fuck a white stranger): 1 to 5 (unlikely to very likely).

3. Young P4 P (Ease in finding 18-23 year olds willing to fuck a stranger) 1 to 5.

4. BBFS: 1-5 (impossible to highly possible).

5. Prices: 1-5 (expensive to cheap).

6. GFE: 1-5 (bitchy pros to total GFE).

7. Anal 1-5 (impossible to common).

Do you have multiple country experiences? What would you say?

[Radical Guy]

SteelBaton.

I'm African, never been to Zambia. What is it with Zambia that appeals to you, this is a question you need to answer for yourself. Rather go to Kenya or South Africa as a 1st time visit to Africa, my opinion. You state that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, why then take the advice of Guys who were disappointed.

Most young girls are going to tell you a porky about being a Mom, why is this of importance to you, stretch marks, hell, I cannot tell at times.

I'm with you on Kenya. I've been there 5 times so far. I always have a wonderful girlfriend experience with 19-23 year old spinners, never any pregnancies. I screen them on Badoo, and I'm always inundated with very attractive prospects all salivating for the chance to make a mzungu fall in love with them and bring them to the USA Mombasa is a monger's paradise!

RG.

[AfAsia]

SteelBaton.

I'm African, never been to Zambia. What is it with Zambia that appeals to you, this is a question you need to answer for yourself. Rather go to Kenya or South Africa as a 1st time visit to Africa, my opinion. You state that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, why then take the advice of Guys who were disappointed.

Most young girls are going to tell you a porky about being a Mom, why is this of importance to you, stretch marks, hell, I cannot tell at times.

[SteelBaton]

There seems to be totally opposite opinions about the beauty of the Zambian girls in the Lusaka and Livingston.

Mystery Ocean and El Moreno 92 say Lusaka is awesome with tons of girls who are "EASY On The Eyes".

On the other hand in reports a few pages back, around 2022, at least three contributors say the women are mostly unattractive compared to East Africa and the dudes all left town disappointed and not recommending visiting.

So, I understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I'the like to behold, but don't want to travel 5,000 miles only to find that the women aren't attractive, are overweight, single mothers, etc.

Can anyone shed some light on this? Maybe post some actual photos of girls they have met, or at least explain what they like and whether they find the Zambian ladies HOT of NOT and Why.

Thanks for the help. I'm planning a first visit to Africa and want to find a place with a good selection of black (the darker the better) women with 1) slim-average bodies (I don't need big asses) 2) single women 18-22 years with no kids and 3) good attitudes and service. Will I find that in Lusaka?

Recommendations welcomed!!

[SteelBaton]

Bro. Nice reporting. I have a question:

I prefer young, slim, dark girls. College age or younger. I am not into the phat asses and single mom type. How easy is it to find young, slim, dark skinned girls? Is Lusaka good for this? If not, then where in Africa would you recommend?

Cheers!

Lusaka is real quiet because there's no Boda Boda's but this makes transport also difficult. Taxi stands are few. You need to call Yango (local Uber), catch a Matatu (Matatu's are 15 to 20 kwa) or go hitchhiking.

There's not much to do in town but if you're here for girls the service is good. Not everyone might do a BJ but most. Certainly enough girls to sustain you a whole month.

At night I'm hitchhiking cars like I was hailing random boda's by the road in Kampala. Just put your hand up and some car will stop, 15 to 50 kwa will usually get you where you want. Still not cheap. Matatu's stop at 9-10 pm.

Compared to East Africa Zambia sort of feels like Tanzania but the girls are darker. There's more hot women to see in the streets of Lusaka IMHO, maybe because it's more safe. The night life is more or less Friday and Saturday only which makes it difficult to hunt in bars. Cabs start at 50 kwa but usually go up to 5 km for 100 kwa, Yango is half price.

Price of the girls: Streetwalkers and local brothels start at 200 kwa. For raw / life sex expect to pay 300 to 500 kwa. Tinder and Chicago is 500 kwa some might do life.

Emmasdale:

Devil Street now called Florida street:

-Vinnys Lodge halfway in the street is a brothel, about 6 girls. Good looking ones. 200 kwa incl the st room. Not much to do in the rest of the street. Go around 8 to 10 pm.

-Club Zone now called Garage Pub (Lumumba Rd across Melissa Supermarket Matero): Thursday 9 pm two freelance girls in the front part of the pub. On the street to the right some streetwalkers, also good looking ones at 200 kwa but they won't travel far so you need a room nearby. Again Vinnys Lodge is not far charging 100 kwa for st room.

City Center:

-Mukupa Guest House = First street to the left comming from town after the Total on Mumbwa Rd. (Where Geokomo General Dealers is on google maps).

It's a large bar, after dark some girls might stand on the street in front. About 15 girls. Maybe "not for the faint of heart" but I found one of them attractive. 200 kwa.

Chamwama:

-Katete Bar: Google Katete Complex, about 300 m west down the road is Dove Blessings Bar which is the brothel. Snow White is the Matatu bus stop nearby. Snow White is at a T junction, you choose the east road with all the veggies sold, after 200 m is Katete / Dove Blessings.

Northmead:

-The block around Konka Bar (former Alpha Bar / Sandtown City) about 8 girls 200 kwa.

Kamwala:

Eastpoint / Breakpoint (AKA Bankpoint): Eastpoint Discotheque was open, there was no Breakpoint. Maybe closed or moved I don't know. In the street / alley behind Eastpoint parallel to the main road there's streetwalkers "of age", about 15 of them as early as 8 pm.

Arcade / Eastpark Mall:

-Chicago Reloaded: Friday and saturdays only. Maybe 4 girls ready for hookup 500 kwa.

-Streetwalkers: After 11 pm in front of Chicago, further in the parkinglot. At the south entrance of Eastpark Mall, also at the south entrance round about just look towards Casino / Protea and you'll see a couple more.

Rhapsody's: The road signs were still up but once I reached it was closed, under construction. No idea if it will open again.

Dating:

-Tinder is the best starting at about 500 kwa excl transport. Got about 20 numbers. My maximum offer on transport would be 200 kwa for their Yango, it's usually about 120 kwa for 5 km radiance back and forth.

-Badoo same same but less activity.

Hotels:

Cheapest hotel in town with wifi is 15 USD.

Streets / Malls:

Hooking up with girls in the street / malls is more of a Nairobi thing. Most girls here might want to date you but a straight up hookup offer is nearly always declined. Out of 20 girls I get 15 phone numbers and only 1 accepted a hookup for 150 USD, no thanks. Forget it, too much trouble in Lusaka. In Nairobi 1 out of 10 will hookup.

Pharmacy:

Morning after pill brand in Town is Depregdina 15 kwa.

Syldenafil: Just buy the cheapest shit you can find at a Lusaka Chemist, it's all the same. As little as 6 kwa for Comit 4 x50 MG.

Food:

-It's no longer chicken legs and fries like East Africa. It's Shoarma now! They go for 25-30 kwa. Didn't get sick but you might.

-Also Hungry Lion fastfood chain is on every corner of the street, a burger sets you back 40 kwa, at least there's a genuine chickenfillet on it.

-Pizza joints like Debonaires and Panarottis have good margaritas. Eataly is the best pizza in town!

Malls:

China Mall for all your stuff.

Levy Mall and East Park Mall are good. Maybe Manda Hill, didn't visit yet.

There's no Jiji website like EA so there's no abundance of mushrooming shops in town, very little is for sale compared to Kampala or Nairobi.

[GoldenKunXiii]

After a few weeks on Tinder couldn't get a bite. Decided to use the local "connectors", I got in touch through WhatsApp, conversation was very straightforward which I liked. Told her I was looking for some action in Lusaka, she proceeded to send me a few photos, I picked the girl I liked and sent the connection fee (K50). Gave me the charges upfront which I liked K300 short & K600 night, got the number made arrangements to meet the next day.

After attempts to get the girl on a video call failed, I was worried it my be a bait & switch but decided to push forward. Met up with her the next day I was relieved to see it wasn't a catfish took her to the room and handled business. She left with the cash next morning, all in all pretty straightforward transaction no drama.

[Jalle]

You don't need to discuss prices beforehand if you're meeting Tinder freelancers in Lusaka.

You just ask them on Tinder "Do you want to come to visit me in Woodlands (or wherever you staying)"? Some will tell you they'll come if you pay. Then you just discuss the price and transport arrangements. Other girls on Tinder are more polite and they don't want to discuss money before or even during the Tinder dates. That doesn't mean they don't expect money in the morning. I'd say 80% of the girls are there to make some cash regardless of what their profile says. Never pay more that K500 in Lusaka.

If you want to avoid problems try to avoid the most pro-looking ladies on Tinder. With those you are likely to have problems even if you agreed the price beforehand.

So since I've explored the outside as that's what I'm into I've seen the lusaka scene and decided to try tinder and I've gotten way more responses than expected. I started talking to a few but have yet to set a date to meet. Wanted to ask you forum members who have used tinder in zambia how things should be approached when talking about money. I've done tinder in Kenya and its pretty straight forward as the girls pretty much ask for what they want. Here it seems a bit different. The college girls are talking about meeting but make no mention of price and being that I have yet to ask I didn't want there to be any awkward conversations if in fact there is no talk of money and then we end up doing something and then they spring up a crazy amount when its time to leave. I don't mind asking up front but don't know how the majority of zambia tinder girls operate. Any info would be greatly appreciated and I will update you on how things go.

[AlecBrwn]

So since I've explored the outside as that's what I'm into I've seen the lusaka scene and decided to try tinder and I've gotten way more responses than expected. I started talking to a few but have yet to set a date to meet. Wanted to ask you forum members who have used tinder in zambia how things should be approached when talking about money. I've done tinder in Kenya and its pretty straight forward as the girls pretty much ask for what they want. Here it seems a bit different. The college girls are talking about meeting but make no mention of price and being that I have yet to ask I didn't want there to be any awkward conversations if in fact there is no talk of money and then we end up doing something and then they spring up a crazy amount when its time to leave. I don't mind asking up front but don't know how the majority of zambia tinder girls operate. Any info would be greatly appreciated and I will update you on how things go.

[AlecBrwn]

So I just got into town on Oct. 13th and hit the ground running. Thanks to all of those posting where to go as that saves me hours of hunting. So starting last night I visited streetwalkers, brothals and the malls.

Since I got the lay of the land I thought I would go back and start at the east lake mall in parking lot near Chicago. I found a sexy girl with a big ass and I get her number and I tell her I'm going to go for drinks with my friend (even though I'm going to do more hunting) I finish making my rounds to some nightclubs and some places where they are streewalkers didn't see anything much around 12 am so I figured I would circle back to pick up the girl in the orange pants. I call her and she meets me at the parking lot with a beer already in her hand. Even before she gets in the car. I tell her 200 kwacha she agrees and gets into the car. We drive back to the hotel and she asks if I have more beer and I tell her I haven't got any as I just arrived the other night. So she's ok with that and I ask her to shower. She comes on out and I have the 200 kwatcha laying on the table saying thank you here you go. So she gets on the bed and starts up with a little dancing and striptease she crawls up on me and says I'm even going to give you a blowjob (I'm like OK isn't that part of the service?) she mumbles about more money because of it and I say I will give you a tip on what I decide if you do a good job. So we proceed and she does a sexy blowjob doing eye contact and she throws her ass up in the air where I can see the view while getting blown. We are enjoying the moment and I immediately put her in doggy. Wow what a great natural ass. She's not shy about using it either. She fucks me back and the bedpost is banging against the wall and we are going at it for a good 25 to 30 min and I'm like ok I want to cum can you suck it. She agrees and I blow a load in her mouth and she says you were supposed to tell me when you were coming. Oops I did tell her but she wasn't fast enough to pull away. So after we finish we speak more about hooking up and then she ask for more money. Since she did a good job I gave her an extra 50 kwacha. And she's like no I want 1000 kwacha I'm like that's not what we agreed upon. Then she's goes off into a rant about when I said 200 in the parking lot that she though I meant 200 dollars. (get the fuck out of here!) she knows damn well I said 200 kwacha. Hell the ATMs don't even spit out usd so who the hell is paying 200 usd to these girls? So I've been through something like this in Ethiopia when a girl tried to do the same thing and that didn't turn out pretty (will save that story for a different time) so now she's like give me more give me more and I'm like I'm ordering your cab and we are walking out of the room right now. She sees that I'm a different person and she continues to make up different stories of her saying I though I meant 200 usd. I even said to her why didn't you bring this up before when I had the 200 kwacha laid out on the table next to your purse? I already knew she was trying to game me so based upon experience its better to give them extra and send them on there way. I pull out an extra 100 kwacha and say take this or I'm going to have security remove you. So she gets her things and we walk to the gate waiting for the taxt. She then is like babe I'm sorry I don't know why your mad its only an extra 150 . I said I just don't like to do business with people who change things up after agreeing. She holds my hand and I tell her honey I've done this around the world and I know what this is. Its ok you basically killed off us seeing each other again so its ok. I will still say Hi to you when I see you and it is what it is. Taxi pulls up I pay the taxi driver and send her off. One thing that I didn't do which I usually do is type it on my phone and screen grab it after they look at it and agree. As this saved me one time in Vietnam. Not sure why I didn't do that tonight but will be sure to do that from here on in.

[LusakaReport]

Not sure the OP can edit my previous post, made some mistakes:

-Streetwalkers: After 11 pm in front of Chicago, further in the parkinglot. At the south entrance of Eastpark Mall, also at the south entrance round about just look towards Casino / Protea and you'll see a couple more.

Correction:

-Streetwalkers: After 11 pm in front of Chicago, further in the parkinglot. At the east entrance (Thabo Mbeki Rd, behind Keg and Lion) of Eastpark Mall, also at the east entrance round about just look towards Casino / Protea and you'll see a couple more.

-Katete Bar: Google Katete Complex, about 300 m west down the road is Dove Blessings Bar which is the brothel. Snow White is the Matatu bus stop nearby. Snow White is at a T junction, you choose the east road with all the veggies sold, after 200 m is Katete / Dove Blessings.

Correction:

-Katete Bar: Google Katete Complex, about 300 m east down the road is Dove Blessings Bar which is the brothel. Snow White is the Matatu bus stop nearby. Snow White is at a T junction, you choose the east road with all the veggies sold, after 200 m is Katete / Dove Blessings.