Tanzania

[ThighsFan]

Samaki Samaki Masaki (the outdoor space as you go to the washrooms) seems to be the best pick up joint for a Wednesday. I am sure there is something on offer for other days of the week. I expect Q Bar to be dead on Monday and Tuesday. It seems most of the women who can afford to hang around in Samaki Samaki have migrated from Q Bar some years back. I never found Samaki Samaki at Mlimani City offering easy pick ups. Sinza? You might find from late afternoon. You may be quoted 120 000 if you are a mzungu but you can negotiate down dramatically. Happy hunting.

Hi.

Which clubs now will have most girls (up to, let's say 120 k / n) right after the weekend: MON-TUE-WED?

Of course I'm going to check Q and Samaki.

And all bars on Sinza.

But I need more suggestions, some must-go, to create nice report after.

[Klklklll]

Hi.

Which clubs now will have most girls (up to, let's say 120 k / n) right after the weekend: MON-TUE-WED?

Of course I'm going to check Q and Samaki.

And all bars on Sinza.

But I need more suggestions, some must-go, to create nice report after.

[MadDin19]

No. I'm not exaggerating. I know a dozen cases.

Neddy, your examples are really funny, the YouTube video is also very nice. But none of that has anything to do with the topic at hand. It's about #2189 and the question of how to behave here. Exactly in this situation

[Neddy69]

OMG now you're exaggerating. Yes, anything can happen. You can also be arrested in the middle of the street because someone accuses you of doing something.

As for women: I always have a camera in the room with audio recording.

No. I'm not exaggerating. I know a dozen cases. Camera won't help you. I give you another example. Which in this case had a happy end. Dar es Salaam. 2 admittedly dumb guys I know take a few pictures in Dar in the port area. Civilian approaches them. Shows a good looking ID. Claims he's undercover police. Says they took pictures of secret port installations. He wants money. Or else police station and even more money. Or a nice spot a couple of days in an African prison cell where you shit in a bucket together with the other 40 plus inhabitants.

What you do? Call your embassy? Which will not help you anyway. So. You pay. 100€. In that case. Fortunately for them were 2 uniformed policeman nearby. They took the whole bunch to real police station. Turned out the civilian guy was an impostor with a fake police ID. They gave him a good hiding with their leather belts. He returned the money. In that case it was happy end. They didn't end up paying anything for the real police and were send on their way.

Mwalimu.

[MadDin19]

I disagree. Better you pay. If you don't you might end up having a shit load of more trouble in Africa. Ok. If she's bluffing alright. But. You don't know. If she's in cahoots with some enterprising police like in Kenya. She can accuse you for example you raped her. Of course she's lying. Let's spin the yarn further. Police is booking you in a nice jail cell for at least 48 hours to cook you. You end up paying much more in bribes. Which is then split up between police and the malaya. And that happens all the time in Kenya. Maybe less so in Tanzania. When you have a real drama queen. Call in reception or security immediately to have a verbally credible witness. The rest is up to negotiation skills. But believe me. It's much cheaper to pay the hooker before police gets involved. Otherwise you might find yourself in a stinky jail cell. And. On Monday morning in front of a judge. Then that's were the REAL FUN starts. Either you pay them ALL off. Or you wait for the proceedings. Pay a fat bail bond and wait until your case is mentioned before the court.

OMG now you're exaggerating. Yes, anything can happen. You can also be arrested in the middle of the street because someone accuses you of doing something.

As for women: I always have a camera in the room with audio recording.

[Neddy69]

This author has one post and it's more useful than 95% of the rest of the Tanzania forum.

Proper research. Well done. Then again. As my tanzanian friend used to say. "Women are like Coca Cola, you find them at every corner in Africa".

Mwalimu.

[Slowalk]

If you're looking for some "ambiance"..

This author has one post and it's more useful than 95% of the rest of the Tanzania forum.

[Neddy69]

Ah I found a video. And be sure you'll be in the evening news. No matter that you're only a suspect. There's a better video with two Germans. They didn't pay up. And ended up paying a lot more. Couple of 1000 euros minimum.

https://youtu.be/afmLkVuySNw

Mwalimu.

[Neddy69]

No I don't agree. If you pay and she is successful with this scam, then there will be more and more of these chicks doing the same thing.

I disagree. Better you pay. If you don't you might end up having a shit load of more trouble in Africa. Ok. If she's bluffing alright. But. You don't know. If she's in cahoots with some enterprising police like in Kenya. She can accuse you for example you raped her. Of course she's lying. Let's spin the yarn further. Police is booking you in a nice jail cell for at least 48 hours to cook you. You end up paying much more in bribes. Which is then split up between police and the malaya. And that happens all the time in Kenya. Maybe less so in Tanzania. When you have a real drama queen. Call in reception or security immediately to have a verbally credible witness. The rest is up to negotiation skills. But believe me. It's much cheaper to pay the hooker before police gets involved. Otherwise you might find yourself in a stinky jail cell. And. On Monday morning in front of a judge. Then that's were the REAL FUN starts. Either you pay them ALL off. Or you wait for the proceedings. Pay a fat bail bond and wait until your case is mentioned before the court.

Therefore.

See above. Grind your teeth and pay.

Mwalimu.

[MadDin19]

I have been in this situation myriad times in different countries. Usually I have paid at the end. Only revenge I have got is that I have continued verbal fighting as long as possible to waste girls time.

That money is not worth of damaged property and scratches in the face.

No I don't agree. If you pay and she is successful with this scam, then there will be more and more of these chicks doing the same thing.

[Leblon]

This is was my first ever experience in Africa, my first black girl. So it was taken by surprise. I had 2 week to look forward to, So I didn't took any chance.

However, after all this incidence, Qbar front desk guy brought a girl around 3 am, asking me if I need a girl. She was hot, proper 10, really young (I was drunk, she might be 18 or 17 or 20).

Fucked her crazy, went bareback (dumb but I was still bit drunk), Did anal with her too. Crazy night but end up with the best fuck of my life.

Good that it ended well. So there was happy ending in your first African night after all.

Bareback is dangerous in that way that if girl got your contact information, later you may get message that she is pregnant and wants money for abortion. And later for complications which came from abortion. And new complications. And your are the cause for all of this. And you pay just to be sure that you don't have any kid in africa, even though you are almost sure that you are being cheated.

Or even worse. If you have long or medium term relationship, girl tells you that she takes care of the birth control. She does not, gets pregnant and gets baby. Now she can live rest of the life without worry, knowing that musungu always takes care of his child (so also the mother). I know cases like this from Mombasa.

"Originally Posted by MadDin19.

The question is how big are your balls. I had this situation 2 times in my life. The girl ended up getting nothing. If you're scared, you lose. I never pay more than what's agreed. ".

I have been in this situation myriad times in different countries. Usually I have paid at the end. Only revenge I have got is that I have continued verbal fighting as long as possible to waste girls time.

That money is not worth of damaged property and scratches in the face. If you managed to get some kind of foto of the girl put it in the forum to warn fellow mongerers.

Bubba Boy wrote in his Rio Guide about situation like this: Pay, and let girl go. Next time you see her, smile but don't say anything.

[Neddy69]

If you're looking for some "ambiance" I finally found those brothels in Mwananyamala. People have been asking but there never came an answer. I was standing right next to it several times at the "Hospital Bus Stop" next to Mwananyamala Hospital. You can see the zone in this YouTube video: "WRONG ROUTE!! THE DARK SIDE OF DAR ES SALAAM. ".

If you walk a little further past the Hospital you'll see a small square with some bars, all very dark. In the corner there's some fruit machines. That's where you walk in. It's the largest red light zone I have see so far. Two horizontal lanes with 4 lanes in between. I think as much as 100 rooms with red lights. I've been there at 4 pm, 9 pm and 11 pm. At least 50 girls there at 11 pm. You won't see it from the street. 6/10 is the best you'll find. Depending what you want it's value for your money or not. Service starts at 10 k but the girl I took refused to go to my hotel so I had to bang her on the spot. Bed was ok but washing in a bucket. Strictly Swahili here, I'd spend my 30 k elsewhere.

Small update on some bars:

Sinza:

Ambiance: I finally noticed it, it is there next to former Corner Bar but remains dark and closed.

Corner Bar: The whole grill and bar is called Vibes Lounge now, two hookers on staff.

Olympia: So this is not former Ambiance, it's a different club with some freelancers.

Be Max Lounge: Nothing inside but next door is Ray's Lodge and there's 2 hookers standing there.

Kitambaa Cheupe: Same place as is referred to as Meeda (it's actually in front of Meeda Investments hence the mix up) Didn't see hookers inside but there's some to the left and right of the bar.

Oyster Bay:

Q Bar: Finally saw some hookers inside on Sunday night, nothing amazing.

Wavuvi Kempu: On Coco Beach. Expected a lot, my heart started beating faster when I was welcomed by a girl in a dress but none of them were hookers, just lousy 4 k for a coke.

You could run guided tours mate. But this is not for the normal tourist. He going to wet his pants.

Mwalimu.

[Manzeus]

But at that time it was Ambiance. In the good old days decades back the was the jolly club. Literally 100 girls to choose from. Tempos passados.

If you're looking for some "ambiance" I finally found those brothels in Mwananyamala. People have been asking but there never came an answer. I was standing right next to it several times at the "Hospital Bus Stop" next to Mwananyamala Hospital. You can see the zone in this YouTube video: "WRONG ROUTE!! THE DARK SIDE OF DAR ES SALAAM. ".

If you walk a little further past the Hospital you'll see a small square with some bars, all very dark. In the corner there's some fruit machines. That's where you walk in. It's the largest red light zone I have see so far. Two horizontal lanes with 4 lanes in between. I think as much as 100 rooms with red lights. I've been there at 4 pm, 9 pm and 11 pm. At least 50 girls there at 11 pm. You won't see it from the street. 6/10 is the best you'll find. Depending what you want it's value for your money or not. Service starts at 10 k but the girl I took refused to go to my hotel so I had to bang her on the spot. Bed was ok but washing in a bucket. Strictly Swahili here, I'd spend my 30 k elsewhere.

Small update on some bars:

Sinza:

Ambiance: I finally noticed it, it is there next to former Corner Bar but remains dark and closed.

Corner Bar: The whole grill and bar is called Vibes Lounge now, two hookers on staff.

Olympia: So this is not former Ambiance, it's a different club with some freelancers.

Be Max Lounge: Nothing inside but next door is Ray's Lodge and there's 2 hookers standing there.

Kitambaa Cheupe: Same place as is referred to as Meeda (it's actually in front of Meeda Investments hence the mix up) Didn't see hookers inside but there's some to the left and right of the bar.

Oyster Bay:

Q Bar: Finally saw some hookers inside on Sunday night, nothing amazing.

Wavuvi Kempu: On Coco Beach. Expected a lot, my heart started beating faster when I was welcomed by a girl in a dress but none of them were hookers, just lousy 4 k for a coke.

Kinondoni:

V Ways bar: Nice bar with no hookers.

Meridian Hotel Club Maasai: Closed or empty during the week, hardly any people on Sunday. Friday and Saturday probably packed. Maybe hookers on those days, not sure. Down to the main road there's some street hookers.

Manzese:

Tip Top Bar: there's street hookers in the alleys behind Tip Top, where you see "Lunch Time Hotel". Not what I expected from a hood like Manzese but didn't find more, well Lambo also weekends only.

Mikoroshoni:

Triple 7: deserted on Thursday, +255 Lounge was full that night. Don't expect hookers.

I followed up on this post on jammi:

"Imagine the whole area between Kwa God and Lubumbashi, the houses in the middle are all holes. The area is full of prostitutes at 1 pm and they are not afraid of anything. ".

What they mean is that there's a small Spa Hotel with two girls about 100 m up from 4 Ways Park Kinondoni in Bint Matole Road. These posts seem a waste of time.

Dalla Dalla's are nearly all going till at least 11 pm making transport cheap once you get it.

[Neddy69]

This list appears on sites like jammi and facebook in 2018, who knows where it originated from. Like you said you republished it, I'm sure with the best intentions but it is a complete fake. There is absolutely not a single prostitute present in the majority of these bars listed. Tiny local bars have nothing but guys present.

Tinder and Badoo, little to do in compared to Kampala. Girls demanding 150 k.

The list is nonsense but investigating all these places does get you somewhere, the action not in the bars mentioned but sometimes in the area you stumble on street hookers. I haven't visited every place on the list yet but enough to know it's not real.

Some local red light zones with street hookers:

Oyster Bay around Q Bar and Samaki Samaki.

Ubongo at Riverside Bus Stop around Zambezi bar.

Sinza around Afrika Sana Bus Stop.

Kisutu at Concorde Hotel, Sikukuu St.

Temeke further down the street from Sugar Ray bar (Temeke St).

Buguruni at Kimboka Bar (Sheli bus stop), a small brothel in a tiny dirt alley, some girls behind the logs further down the street.

Ohio Street (Kisutu) = Nothing, old data.

Tunisa Rd (Kinondoni) = Nothing, old data.

Hospital Bus Stop (Mwananyamala) = Nothing, old data.

Coco Beach (Oyster Bay) = Seen none so far.

Morogoro Rd (Kisutu) = There's no hookers around Fire Station and DIT Bus stops or City Mall, nor is there a bar.

Some bars with hookers:

Samakai Samaki (Oyster Bay) = At least 10 hookers, pretty hotbods demanding $100.

Q Bar (Oyster Bay) = Not in the weekend, not in the weekdays did I see any hookers inside, just hookers in front of the bar 1 to 3 girls.

Olympia (Sinza) = saw two hookers inside, this is where Ambiance should have been. Not what I wanted.

Corner Bar (Sinza) = saw two hookers inside, not what I wanted.

Lambo (Manzese) = hookers.

La Chaaz (Sinza) = Closed, called Sports World now?

Ambiance (Sinza) = Gone, another club called Olympia?

Meridian Hotel Club Maasai (Kinondoni) = closed Thursday?

Bars I checked without any hookers:

London Lounge (External Bus Stop, Ubongo) = No hookers.

La Casa (Riverside Bus Stop, Ubongo) = No hookers.

Kimboka Bar (Buguruni) = Not in the bar itself but in the brothel nearby.

Sugar Ray (Temeke) = just on the street.

Boardroom (Sinza) = No hookers.

Be max lounge (Sinza) = No hookers.

Tip Top (Manzese) = No hookers.

None of these bars has hot girls for a budget like Capital Pub in Kampala where I had many girls. I'm not going to pay Samaki prices.

It's like looking for a needle in a haystack if it's even there, is there such a place as Capital Pub in Dar?

It's good someone did the leg work. Never forget prostitution is illegal in Tanzania. When I was in Sinza there were plenty of SWs in front of now razed Corner Bar. That was a dungeon. Several times there were police razzias and girls fled from the street. As for now I don't know the present situation. One thing is for sure. Not much to beat Kampala. The main reason I went 2020/21 to Tanzania. Nothing else was opened during COVID times. But at that time it was Ambiance. In the good old days decades back the was the jolly club. Literally 100 girls to choose from. Tempos passados.

Mwalimu.

Who's newly minted resident of Isle rouge.

[MadDin19]

On my recent trip to Dar es Salaam, I stayed at Q-bar (I was being lazy to find for girls and from what I heard, Q bar always have girls).

I picked a girl for $40 from downstair club and took her to my room, half way through the sex she started demanding more money. She stopped sex and said give me $100.

I went to front desk to complain and seems like they were all in it together. Front desk guy said he can't help and give her whatever she asks. The girl threatened me with her goons who were still present at the bar (I saw them). Since Hotel itself was in it with them, I knew there weren't going to protect me nor did I trust to call police (I might be eve in more trouble).

I had to pay $100 extortion, as it was my beginning of 15 days vacation and I didn't want to ruin it.

The question is how big are your balls. I had this situation 2 times in my life. The girl ended up getting nothing. If you're scared, you lose. I never pay more than what's agreed.