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07-12-20 06:21 #1557
Posts: 1486Prices
A note to all overpaying tourists. I pulled out an old post and repost it without comment. Although this post is 2 or 3 years old that's what a local is typically paying.
Add to that figure 50% to 100% Muzungu surcharge. Voila. That's the price. Even for inflation adjusted pricing I would never pay more 50k. And that's for a supermodel. Everything higher is just laying it on thick by the chicas. Learn to negotiate and walk straight away laughing when quoted 100k. And don't forget. Prostitution is prohibited in Tanzania. A chica threatening me with police costs me a mild smile as she'll end up herself in a jail cell.
1: Ubungo.
- Urafiki there is Rambo bar.
- Mikasa its at riverside.
- London its at external.
Price around 10,000.
2: Manzese and Magomeni.
-Matanki bar,
-friends corner.
-Shakur bae,
Price around 10,000.
3: Magomeni, Jangwani, Fire, DIT and city mall.
-kona bar Njia panda ya muhimbili.
-Bwalo la oksrta.
Price around 10,000.
4: Sinza.
-Ambiance.
-Maeda.
-sweet corner.
-African Sana.
-Leila.
-Mapuge,
Price around 10,000.
5: Kinondoni.
-Kinondon studio.
-Papuchuro.
-meridian.
-maisha.
-4 and pub.
Price around 20,000.
6: Masaki.
-Next door.
-4 ways.
-yashki.
-Polo.
-Kakizz.
Price around 30,000/.
7: Buguruni.
-Ben pub.
-Rozan bar.
-kandiz.
-Kimboka.
-Shell.
Price around 10,000.
8: Tabata.
-fotefote (40/40) bima.
-The great Darajani.
-Kwetu pazuri.
-KP sanene.
-Toroka uje mangumi.
-Njia ya segerea.
-Mikassa tabata magengen.
-KB kinyerezi (makhirikhiri).
Price around 15,000.
9: Temeke.
-Liquid.
-Js kwa Aziz ally.
-Bulyaga.
-Zungu Taifa.
-Shamba la bibi.
-Matako bar sokota.
-Sugar ray.
-Masakuri.
Price around 15,000.
10: Mbagala.
-Kizuiani.
-Dar live.
-mtitu pub.
Price 10,000.
My mate was in Ambiance in 2018 and he typically paid 15.000 tzs. And no. He's not a local. He's a white european male. And no. He doesn't look like Brad Pitt and speaks no more than a few words kiswahili. Improve on your game.
Neddy.
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07-12-20 00:31 #1556
Posts: 159Originally Posted by Neddy69 [View Original Post]
What locals like him and counterparts in many other parts of the developing world realize is that white Anglo and European men tend to like women who are smaller in stature, skinnier, sometimes with bigger breasts but on small frames, darker color, and even of lower educational level to make them easier to get. When you see local dudes with such girls at the down-and-dirty clubs, it's probably because they can't afford the more desirable girls or are of lower status themselves. So white guys like us serve a dual purpose in Africa. We inject money into the tourist economy and take out the girls who are least desired by local guys LOL. In SE Asia, a similar dynamic often plays out and say in the Philippines, white guys are know for chasing 'exotic' girls which is code for girls who are least educated, come from impoverished backgrounds and physically, short, dark, skinny, with shrimp faces.
But mongers who don't fit this description because they have exceptional taste like me or are Middle Eastern, Indian, black, or even Asian need to apply different approaches to find what they are looking for. Tonight it looked like Board Room was best for physical appearance and Tips for finding more civilian and possibly educated types. But I will need a lot more data points to start getting a bit of a handle on this city.
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07-12-20 00:13 #1555
Posts: 159Saturday Night
I'm staying in building right next to Village Supermarket in Masaki. Thai Joe is staying in really nice condo nearby.
At 8:30 pm, we met up to have dinner at rooftop resto Rhapsody just down the street. Wow this place is awesome, great venue to bring date for dinner and drinks. I had a magnificent fillet steak and fries for just $16. I've never had such tender easy to eat steak before in my life.
We then headed to Tips, an outside club with music that's not so loud you can't talk. Johnny O met us there and we had a couple round of beers. It was fairly crowded but still enough space. Good atmosphere. Seemed like all civilians and plenty of decent looking girls in groups, some mixed and some all female. This might have been kinda middle class local I didn't see many girls who really caught my eye. Plenty looked ok but nobody got me excited. Well, it was just 10 pm in the evening.
We then headed to Board Room, an open air local place that was quite crowded but bright enough to see all the girls inside well. The area immediately outside is good for taking a break and there are some hos lingering about. One of them was pretty hot so I asked her price and she said 100 K. Her English was not too good. I took her number and thought perhaps I can negotiate with her another time if she's keen to come to my area, we'll see. Inside the club I saw several girls who excited me but they tended to be in mixed groups and it was way too crowded inside to maneuver well. The 2 guys didn't like it so much for that reason so we didn't stay long. This one venue probably had more of those hot amazing specimens with real African curves than I've seen anywhere else so far.
We then went to La Chaz but closed due to COVID so then went to this big open air Masai Club but it was dead.
Went to area of Corner Bar to walk around and finally both of those guys went in. At that point, I grabbed a biaji back to my place. Corner Bar is a dreadful venue with no light inside, high volume noise, and girls who look best in darkness.
Other stuff from last few days.
1. The other day, I got the number for a hot waitress at nearby Samaki Samaki. I've been texting her but she only responds sometimes and she's probably not very interested. But I'll try a bit more.
2. I would love to find a good guide here like I found in Kampala. Someone who could help set-up things up that are challenging for a newbie non-local language speaking mzungu. In Kampala I had a great guy who worked for me. He helped me arrange excellent all-in accommodation, low cost transport around town and up to Entebbe, a hook up with prescriptions and a large quantity of needed meds, chat-ups some civilian girls, and to arrange all the government passes and approvals to enter border province to get into Tanzania. Uganda is a bureaucratic nightmare for all this stuff. I also gave him some work from another expat so he earned a few hundred US $ from all the work in total. A quality guide needs to be educated but also street smart and switched-on, have strong skills with people and negotiations, and completely above board, transparent, and honest with the clients.
3. Tanzania's people on average have significantly lighter skin and better looking faces than counterparts in Uganda; probably due to a a lot of mixing with Arab traders in previous centuries. I haven't seen this issue discussed on the forum before but what it means for me is that a higher percentage of girls are attractive here than in Uganda.
4. I've been swiping Tinder sometimes during downtime. I seem to have a higher match rate than in Uganda. With Uganda, I right swipe 1 out of 10 and of those, only 1 or 2 out of 10 match with me. Here in Tanzania, I right swipe 2-3 out of 10 and of those, at least 2 match with me. So far, I've only had one meet-up with a Tinder match and I didn't much like her look in person so I sat a couple hours with her then ended the date.
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07-10-20 21:44 #1554
Posts: 48Updating you with expectations and pro girls in Tanzania
Originally Posted by OriginalJoh [View Original Post]
Experience of pro girls you are going to encounter in Tanzania.
- pros are almost the same everywhere. The difference is the ones in more developed countries know what men there want and hence their services would always include those services. Do not expect as a must do for a Tanzanian pro to do a service you have experienced elsewhere / which is common elsewhere even without asking. They are shaped by the customers they serve most of the time. I can tell you for short time here locals do not even kiss or touch them. They make themselves wet or use lube so you just penetrate, ejaculate then evacuate. So if you want specific thing before you take her just clarify. This is especially if you go to the mosty locals places. The escorts who advertise online or who you find at high class places they may do all stuffs which are common all over the world (GFE, threesomes, other kinky mzungu stuffs etc) without even asking because they are used to getting customers who most times want those services.
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07-10-20 07:17 #1553
Posts: 1486Ugly skanks
Originally Posted by TaiwanLaowai [View Original Post]
Neddy.
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07-10-20 05:53 #1552
Posts: 1486Emtpy talk
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
Neddy.
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07-10-20 02:05 #1551
Posts: 437Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
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07-10-20 00:29 #1550
Posts: 159Went to Corner Bar for first and last time
Met up with JohnnyO at Corner Bar. Dreadful loud singing means impossible to hold a decent conversation. Seems to be full of low-rent skanks with kinky hair and skinny bodies. I might pay them 1,000 Shillings to go away. Too dark to see their faces clearly but it's clear that this venue is no reason to come all the way to Africa. I lasted around 50 minutes in that dump before I just had to get out. Went next door to outside resto. Saw a couple cute chubby waitresses. Flirted with the one who showed me to my table - 30 year old single mum. Ok got her digits because she looks like she'd be good fun for an afternoon in coming days. Later Johnny comes out with newfound love of his life who happens to speak quite decent English.
Later my waitress and her co-worker invite themselves to our table for fruit juice on my dime. I say ok. But of course she's on duty so I can't really touch her much there. Later I can tell she's telling Johnny's new fiance that she's hungry. I had just settled my bill and in my mind, this chubby girl is not exactly starving. So I order up my Uber but when he arrives, he's got the wrong plate and wants to take me off card which is my default setting. I don't do cash with Uber. So I tell him to get lost, go back to Corner to use loo, then take a bijajia back to Oyster Bay where I stay. Mind you, Johnny's future wife was taking side of the Uber driver and asked me to cancel from my side or pay him 4,000 shillings. I tried in vain to explain to her how Uber is supposed to work all over the world and later Johnny took over in my efforts to educate her as I exited.
A bit later, Johnny texted me that the newest lust of my life (chubby waitress) tried to pad his bill but fortunately the new wife set them straight. So waitresses were crooked but Johnny's girl may or may not be legit. Let's see what Johnny has to say in a day or two.
Morals of our night out:
1. Avoid Corner Bar at all costs, it is a horrible dump with loud noise, near pitch black darkness, and ugly skanks. You will need a lot of beers to find an acceptable girl here and make sure she leaves before sunrise.
2. Also avoid the resto next door for even the uniformed waitresses may be out to hustle you.
3. Yes Neddy this is Africa but still, there are different experiences and shades to this continent to be had depending on where you go and how you filter people and venues.
4. I've never been to a country like Tanzania where Uber is so unreliable in terms of drivers trying to somehow go against the rules. This is based mainly on what Johnny told me as this was my first problem here. I've used Uber in over 10 countries including Uganda and it's always been very safe and predicable. I don't know why Dar is different but I will file a complaint to Uber and let them know.
I hope the higher side of Dar, namely Masaki and Oyster Bay clubs or Tinder girls will be less trashy, more genuine, and a lot better looking. Lets's see. Time will tell.
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07-09-20 21:44 #1549
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by SoberHans69 [View Original Post]
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07-09-20 18:44 #1548
Posts: 437Went to book flights from England to Dar with KLM just now and the prices have gone up a lot since just yesterday.
All last week it was showing the 19th of August until 2nd of September as 480 and now there is no flights on 19th and closest dates are 780 and it doesn't get any cheaper until mid September.
Guess I'll have to wait a bit longer and see what happens.
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07-09-20 16:46 #1547
Posts: 159Originally Posted by Amadeuss [View Original Post]
Doesn't Dar es Salaam have better options than that? I know Kampala sure did. These types of girls you are talking here are pure trash. Is that what you came to Tanzania for?
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07-08-20 19:44 #1546
Posts: 390Q-Bar
Some years ago I was actually staying for some weeks at Qbar. So it was quite convenient, you don't have to walk far and you start to know what kind of girls come there and at what time of the day and week.
To separate the wheat from the chaff as it were.
Usually I was relaxing a bit in the evening and went down after 1. 00 am to see who were hanging around. Except when the band was playing, then I went down earlier, but I don't know if there is live music nowadays.
I met all kinds of girls and usually they were not the hard-core ones.
Sometimes a musician, some enthusiastic Ugandan girls and even some girls driving their own cars. Never talked about money beforehand and never had problems, except that some of them came knocking at my door in later days. Only once I had 2 girls and they both wanted the*full share. But of course they know that they can't make a scene* at Q-Bar.
Those days of course there was the Maisha Club next door, but not anymore I think.
BTW, I saw that Q-Bar is offering a full month stay now for 650 $ on their Facebook page.
If you don't mind noise from the bar it's a good place to stay.
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07-08-20 16:09 #1545
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Amadeuss [View Original Post]
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07-08-20 15:33 #1544
Posts: 988Originally Posted by JohnnyO [View Original Post]
Never ask "how much" but name your price and show it on your phone. Numbers on the phone avoid communication problems. Further make clear how long you want her to stay and what extras you wish. Otherwise she charging you for kissing her nipples another 100. -.
Those Ho's are professionals. Deal with them as business. It does'nt matter in which country.
But thanks for your report. Carry on.
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07-08-20 15:11 #1543
Posts: 1486Originally Posted by Neddy69 [View Original Post]