Uganda

[S Ron Mi]

Got a situation on my head, i meet a lady in uganda 2005 and we had a one time fuck there I cum inside her. She very soon claim to be pregnant and wanted money. This has contiune since that time.

I now got a mail that she want to go to embassy to get visa to my country, I doubt that she get any. She says we have a 10 monht old girl. Stil no proves. I have asked for pics but even pic will not prove any right.

So guys outthere be careful who u dump your load into, you never know what they up to. Anyway she won´t get a dollar out of me.

You can find out if the child is yours rather easily. See below.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23814032?GT1=43001

After two decades, Sean Reid of Surrey, British Columbia, discovered that he had a son. Fred Turley of Des Plaines, Ill., learned he didn’t have a daughter. And Wendy Lieb of Lewis Center, Ohio, made certain she wasn’t going to be a grandmother quite yet.

In all three situations, crucial genetic information altered the lives of the people involved. And in each case, it came not from a doctor or other medical source, but from a $29.99 kit on a drugstore shelf.

Reid, Turley and Lieb are among more than 800 customers who responded to the first wave of marketing for do-it-yourself DNA paternity tests sold as Identigene by Sorenson Genomics of Salt Lake City.

Sales in three western states — Washington, Oregon and California — were so brisk last fall that Rite Aid Corp. expanded the product this week to some 4,300 stores in 30 states across the country.

“The running joke is that we’re the Maury Povich family,” said Reid, 37, who confirmed years of speculation about a former girlfriend’s son with a kit purchased at a Bellingham, Wash., store. “But why not do it privately? We did this as discreetly, as efficiently and as cost-effectively as possible.”

For users like Reid, the tests provide easier answers to one of life’s crucial questions — Who’s your daddy? — said Douglas Fogg, chief operating officer of Identigene.

“Everyone is purchasing the tests because they’re curious,” said Fogg, who expects to sell at least 52,000 tests this year. “They’re looking to establish questions about their own child or their own paternity.”

But for genetics experts, drugstore marketing of DNA testing raises questions of accuracy and ethics.

“From our perspective, direct-to-consumer genetic tests raise all the same issues for lax government oversight, potentially misleading or false advertising and the potential for making profound medical decisions on the basis of poorly interpreted or understood results,” said Rick Borchelt, a spokesman for the Genetics and Public Policy Center at Johns Hopkins University.

At the very least, the kits have the potential to complicate the lives of the people who use them, legal experts cautioned.

“We all need to take a step back and realize that this is different than many tests that you take,” said R. Alta Charo, a professor of law and bioethics at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. “This is a life-changing moment.”

DNA tests join other diagnostic tools

The paternity kits have taken their place on store shelves next to other diagnostic tests that don’t rely on DNA, including those for pregnancy, HIV and blood sugar, said Michael S. Watson, executive director of the American College of Medical Genetics.
Unlike genetic tests for health conditions, tests that use DNA to determine paternity are fairly simple to provide and fairly easy to interpret, said Watson. They're subject to limited oversight, however, with no review required by the Food and Drug Administration and no certification required under the federal Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments, or CLIA.

The Identigene kit includes swabs for collecting cell samples from the inside of the cheeks of the child and the alleged father. Collection of the mother’s cells is optional, but strongly recommended to strengthen the results. The swabs are packaged and mailed to the Sorenson laboratory in Salt Lake City where they’re analyzed.
The Sorenson lab is accredited by the AABB, the agency formerly known as the American Association of Blood Banks.

Results are reported online, by phone or by mail in three to five business days. They come back as a probability figure that verifies paternity with 98 percent to 99 percent accuracy, Watson said.

Total cost is about $150, including the price of the kit and a $119 laboratory processing fee. For another $200, users can purchase validated tests that meet legal requirements for determining paternity, Fogg said.

Court use questionable

But Susan Crockin, a lawyer who specializes in reproductive technology, said consumers shouldn’t count on the tests standing up in court.

“The jury’s still very much out on these tests in terms of reliability and establishing a chain of custody,” said Crockin, a consultant for the Johns Hopkins public policy center.

Most of the users who have been buying the kits — which have gone on sale for as low as $17.99 — don’t plan to use the results to resolve legal issues, Fogg acknowledged. Instead, most are looking to answer social questions. And that's where the complexity comes in.

Because the cell samples are taken in private, there’s the potential for fraud and deception, noted Charo, the ethics expert.

“I can imagine rather peculiar circumstances in which somebody has a swab taken without their knowledge,” she said. “It raises questions about informed consent.”
Even when people do consent, the results can be unsettling. Watson estimates that between 5 percent and 10 percent of genetic tests he's conducted show a child is not related to the presumed father.

“It could break up families,” Watson said. “Some will be broken because that was the goal. Others will be broken up and that wasn't the goal.”

But people who’ve used the at-home tests swear by the ease, the accuracy — and the results.

After 20 years, a mystery solved

For Reid, the paternity test opened the door to a new extended family. He’d always wondered whether the baby born to a former girlfriend was his, even though she insisted the child was fathered by another man. When the girlfriend contacted Reid on Facebook last summer, the pictures she sent of her oldest son raised the question anew.

“My wife, said ‘Oh my, that’s you,’” said Reid, a nurse.

Internet research pointed Reid to the Identigene test, which was cheaper and more convenient than other options. With cooperation from his former girlfriend and her son, they all took the tests, with results that altered everyone’s lives.

“Our newest son has a family he never knew he had including grandparents, aunts, and three younger brothers who are all very excited to meet him,” Reid said.
For Fred Turley, 55, the DNA test confirmed what his companion had told him: the 4-year-old girl he helped care for was not his. The news was disappointing, but clear, he said.

“The bottom line is, I don’t have to live with the uncertainty about her being my daughter and wind up in a fight just to find out,” Turley said. “This won’t change how I feel about the girl. It will just remove what had become a major concern.”
For Wendy Lieb, 41, the DNA test restored her 20-year-old son’s future. He’d already quit college, taken a job and assumed the responsibilities of pending parenthood after a girl he had.

‘He just didn't look like my son at all.’

Lieb said she was proud of her son’s response, but perplexed after the baby, a boy, was born.

“He just didn’t look like my son at all,” Lieb said. “And we have fairly strong genes.”
A trip to the drugstore and 10 days later, the answer was clear: her son was not the father.

“I thought it would have required thousands of dollars and a trip to the doctor,” she said.

Lieb is relieved for her own child, of course, but also for everyone involved. As difficult as the situation has been, she said, it will be easier for them to adjust now, rather than years later. The test may raise ethical questions, she said, but it also provides the peace of mind that comes with answers.

“I think it’s a lot more ethical for you to find out the truth,” she said.

[Deep Wet]

Hi Friends

I am visiting Kampala soon and would like to have knowledge as to how I can find good girls. I am new here and would be thankful if anyone can help me. In case, anyone has contact numbers of some Girls who are really good and not so pricy, please be kind enough and let me have the same.

[Anchor71]

I went to Ange Mystique at around 10 pm. I did not find many people inside. The guy at the entrance told me to return there around midnight. When I return there around midnight, it was fully crowded. There were 7/8 rooms in each of its three floors and there were around 4/5 dance floors in every floor. I roamed around and then found one black young slick teen-aged girl. She was buying drinks at the counter. I approached her directly and offered her a drink. She said ok.

Her name was Jamilah. She was very stunning and gorgeous with a skintight and brief elastin outfit. Like many other African girls, her hip was also fluffy but soft, curvy and round. She had a very slick waist. So, I decided to spend money after her. We danced together. She was wearing a very short skirt, so her panty was also visible when she was either sitting on my lap or dancing while spreading her legs around my thighs.

I still cannot forget Jamilah for her magnificent look and also for her satisfying service.

[Anchor71]

I tried massage at a number of places in Kampala. One of these was Africana Hotel. I got one girl from Congo. She escorted me to a massage room and told me to undress. I took off my clothes except undies. She instructed me take off my undies too. I thought it was a good indication that the massage would turn into +++.

Her name was Rosaline. I lay down on the bed and she started massaging my feet with oil. Many a times her hands were touching my cock, as if carelessly. She massaged me for an hour and within this period, her hands and fingers touched and caressed my balls, cock and pubic area a number of times. I was pretty sure that she soon would offer handjob at the least.

Unfortunately she did not offer anything. When I insisted, she said that would be against her professional ethics. She instead advised me to go to any nightclub to pick someone. After repeated insistence, she just some more oil on top of my cock and caressed areas close to the cock.

[Carl Schmitt]

Two spots in this city:
- four turkeys (restaurant and pub with hookers, some of them beautiful), beginning of the evening, located in the city center in front of stanbic bank
-knight riders (nightclub, on the main road to Kampala and the airport), hip hop live and street dance every night, some stunners some night of luckyness

[Kanyama]

For those of you looking for decent accommodation options, there was just an ad on TV last night for the Katatumba Suites. The places, which are just around the corner from Kampala Casino, were advertised at $35/night and look pretty nice.

[Wild Thing 69]

The tourist hotel sounds brilliant @ $40, esp /w a room safe. Friendliness at the serena helped me avoid embarassing and expensive $50 guest charges, so we'll see what I can negotiate.

Tourist Hotel is 40 EURO not $ and they dont have room safes but a safe at the reception, but the location is great opp. Nakasero market and Sax Pub, and some employees are more than willing i.e. to help you in case of urgent needs during daytime -lol-

Have fun
Wild Thing 69

[Crypton]

Is it my baby

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Got a situation on my head, i meet a lady in uganda 2005 and we had a one time fuck there I cum inside her. She very soon claim to be pregnant and wanted money. This has contiune since that time.

Ask the girl to mail a hair sample of the child.

In 1992 my brother had his "daughter's" DNA tested his only to discover that his wife's child wasn't fathered by him. The DNA tests used blood samples. However, I would imagine a hair sample would suffice in 2007. - Should easily fit into an envelope.

If I am not mistaken, you need hair with roots - the root contains cells and therefore DNA.

[Poonhound69]

The tourist hotel sounds brilliant @ $40, esp /w a room safe. Friendliness at the serena helped me avoid embarassing and expensive $50 guest charges, so we'll see what I can negotiate.

With the two choices you have given me, I'm sure I'll find something to my liking.

Thanks again.

-PH

The guesthouse I mentioned below (Hotel City Square) is very basic--no safe, no frills, and make sure you get one of their better rooms, as they vary significantly in quality. A bit of friendliness at the reception desk and being willing to go back and change rooms should do the trick. Some have TVs, some do not. It is not great but there is very little decent accommodation in Kampala in the 20-30 USD range.

Downtown the Tourist Hotel is better than the above-listed places but also costs a bit more money, I think it's closer to $40.

[Kanyama]

March in Kampala is usually at the beginning of a rainy season. We have had a lot of rain during January, however, which is unusual, so it is unseasonally cool and pleasant right now. I suspect it will be decent, and Kampala never gets as hot as the Kenya coast anyhow. But it can be very humid.

The guesthouse I mentioned below (Hotel City Square) is very basic--no safe, no frills, and make sure you get one of their better rooms, as they vary significantly in quality. A bit of friendliness at the reception desk and being willing to go back and change rooms should do the trick. Some have TVs, some do not. It is not great but there is very little decent accommodation in Kampala in the 20-30 USD range. If you are willing to go to the outskirts of town there are decent places in Kansanga (I think there are two called the Hotel Olympia and the Marble Arch Hotel) or Ntinda (the Nob View Hotel) but these are not much better and if you are traveling back and forth to the center of town you will spend a lot of money on transport, and also have to deal with traffic.

Downtown the Tourist Hotel is better than the above-listed places but also costs a bit more money, I think it's closer to $40.

There are places in the $15 range but you'll have to search for those--another contributor to this board named something called the 888, but I haven't visited that one so you'll have to search for it yourselves.

There is a useful publication called "The Eye" which also can be accessed on-line, which lists some accommodation.

[Claudio]

My keniatravel is canceled. So I desided going to Uganda.

How is kampala in March hot and humid?

How about a good budget place in town, means 20-30Us.

Thanks a lot.

I promise pics and a dayli report.

[Poonhound69]

Thanks Kanyama:

I met several rich young local girls eager for a good time at the Sheraton bar. Too bad the Emirates crew avoid it when staying there.

The only pricey part of mongering in Kampala is the accomodation, and it does look like youve solved the problem for me.

Does the room have a safe, or am I limited to my suitcase?

Heres a pic that brings back fond memories for me.

S, 19, rwandan, delicious.

I had no problems, although I arrived separately from my companion. Given that I had a double room, however, I don't see that there would be any problem in any case.

The hotel is not very fancy, so don't expect any bells or whistles, and it's a bit noisy. But it's only a five- or ten-minute walk from the Sheraton, so it's very convenient and central to everything.

[Kanyama]

I had no problems, although I arrived separately from my companion. Given that I had a double room, however, I don't see that there would be any problem in any case.

The hotel is not very fancy, so don't expect any bells or whistles, and it's a bit noisy. But it's only a five- or ten-minute walk from the Sheraton, so it's very convenient and central to everything.

[Poonhound69]

Were you able to bring your friends up? How far is it from the sheraton?

I stayed @ the serena on company business but my next trip will be purely for PLEASURE.

-ph

On a recent rendezvous with a friend of mine I discovered a clean and convenient option for guest houses near the center of town. The place is called the Hotel City Square. It's just opposite the taxi stage of City Square, and it's on the top floor of the building. Rooms are clean and bathrooms are decent; a double costs 45, 000/night, but I was able to get it for 40, 000 for a short-term stay. With more negotiation you might be able to get a better rate. The price is not super-cheap but the place seems to be reasonable value for the area.

[Kanyama]

On a recent rendezvous with a friend of mine I discovered a clean and convenient option for guest houses near the center of town. The place is called the Hotel City Square. It's just opposite the taxi stage of City Square, and it's on the top floor of the building. Rooms are clean and bathrooms are decent; a double costs 45, 000/night, but I was able to get it for 40, 000 for a short-term stay. With more negotiation you might be able to get a better rate. The price is not super-cheap but the place seems to be reasonable value for the area.