Zambia

[Zambeef]

Well, Jim- pletny o calls to that number, but no one answers ever. Maybe they've moved on. Thanks though. So. Just how good looking was Thandi exactly? Thick, thin.

On my topic though- having lunch with some business associates at Manda Hill and when walking to our seats, I spotted a young early 20's really light skinned Zambian checking me out. Nice body, but not the super-thin tight Zambian body we love so much. Natural hair, just pulled back tight, full breats. She whispered to her girlfriend who turned around. The girlfriend was an Indian lady about 30ish maybe. Still a great body and decent face, but a little old for my personal taste. I went and sat with my friends, but the two girls kept looking over from time time time. Too often. So I figured they marked me, and were just making cutsie eyes till I went over and talked to them. But I kept thinking of a report I read from Mazungu a while back about his nightmare Indian chick, and the girl she was soliciting. So I figured I'd just watch a little and see if they were indeed fishing. Eventually I got up to take a leak, and the Indian perked up half-expecting me to go talk to her. My friends of course were still around, one walking with me infact, so that was out of the question. When I came out of the bathroom they were gone, but soon appeared again from the hall to where the toilets are. Maybe they thought I'd wait for them. 10 minutes later they 'walked' off toward the street. No car, a 30+ Indian hanging out with a 20+ Zambia. Had to be fishing. Does anyone know these girls? Mazungu, does this bring back any horrible flashbacks? I'm there pretty often, so if anyone has any positive information on these girls, I'd like to take the younger girl back to her place. But if these are Mazungu's 200 dollar girls, they can keep walking.

Thanks for the input.

Zambeef

[Zambeef]

Thanks Jim01. You're a top notch human being.

Zambeef

[Jim01]

098 093 703 - that's the number of the whacky ganga one who nicked my shades. Called Thandi.

She's on par for attractiveness.

Hopefully me ditching her would have taught her the lesson that bad attitude doesn't pay off but somehow I doubt it. Deffo worth 1-2 nights. YMMV

Just watch your sunglasses :-)

[Jim01]

Her name is Natasha on 098 070 079.

That will be her mate's/sister's/mother's number. You'll have to figure out how to get through to her as she'll probably have no credit to ring you back if she doesn't answer phone.

Don't mention me or this site to her please.

If you can't get through to her by phone you will find her in Alpha as that's where she, ummm, works :-)

[Zambeef]

Same night, met the girl I had met on the 1st night. Agreed on 100,000 (£13) and off we went to my place... Decided to knock about with this one...

I'm not sure if you like to keep a hold of your past exploits, or if when you're through, you're through. Would you be willing to pass on any info about your 'knock about girl' offsite, or is that not exactly your style either? Just wondering. As I mentioned I am IN Lusaka but don't really get to check out the nightlife on my own. So it's difficult to make new contacts.

Don't judge me guys, every now and then things come on a silver platter... Just thought I'd ask. Thanks.

Zambeef

[Jim01]

Ruff Ryder

That's the best one of her. Don't take nude or porno photos. Not my style.

But here's another pic you might find funny.

Don't worry if all the guesthouses are full - just check in here.

(I had to edit it in MS Paint as some of the real life paint had worn off but it did certainly say "Girl Friendly...". It's around the corner from Likute Guest House)

[Zambeef]

Having lived in many different African countries incl. Zambia I feel compelled to give you peace of mind, if I may say so.
...
If you do this in the US, then what are you waiting for?

Hey, I was asking for it. Thanks. I will keep you guys posted, and will hopefully get some pics worth posting sometime too. There really are NO recent pics here, are there. I mean 'detailed' pics.

I asked before about recommended locations for hotels or other establishments where I could check in for a couple hours then skip out (no credit card needed). Any updated ideas, even prices are appreciated. I am still more or less getting aquainted with Lusaka. Thanks again.

Zambeef

[Ruff Ryder]

The Lusaka lady I knocked about with.

This is a cutie, Jim01! Any more of her, especially nudes?

[Xxxphree]

Brother S,

I second that conviction!

Please believe what the gentleman is saying!

YES

[Schuerzenjaeger]

Have any of you guys ever tried the cards on the table "street proposition" in downtown Lusaka or surrounding? I have noticed that in most of the posts and experiences you seasoned professionals have found the tried and true pick up locations where you are approached. That sounds perfect. If you are traveling solo, and have the time.

I have seen so many divine thin things walking around downtown, dressed to be looked at, that don't mind looking you in the eyes. Unfortunately I do not have the freedom to play the sugar daddy role, or take them back to my place due to my attachments. Have any of you gentlemen tried any form of street proposition approach, even in the bars- or do you wait for the right girl to grab the seat next to you?

I'm ballsy enough to try it back in the US because you can read the 'right kind of girl' like a book. But I wonder if I try the brief introduction, a little conversation, then business technique- will the girls here totally be offended. Most are so shy, especially around foreigners. I wonder if the allure of kwatcha would be enough, or I'd be paying off ploice within the hour.

If any of you have experiences or suggestions in this direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Zambeef

Having lived in many different African countries incl. Zambia I feel compelled to give you peace of mind, if I may say so.

Generally speaking, any woman dressed to tease or show will be happy to receive attention. One that looks you into the eye anyway. That attention might be just a compliment, but you can add a proposition very quickly. The only thing to remember: In Africa, everybody does everything, but everybody keeps a certain aura of morality or innocence. What I want to say is: Don't ask her directly if she wants to shag, but invite her for the classical dinner/drinks. If you have constraints in the evening, a lunch will do, too.

On your second date, tell her to meet you straight at a certain hotel that you have obviously checked out before. Or invite her to your office, impress her with some technical goodies and fuck her on your desk.

It does work everywhere, with most ladies I have seen or met. You will be surprised, in any shop, on the street, wether dressed in hot pants or traditional dresses. You can even collect dates at your local church, if you want.

If you wonder how to start: "Excuse me, can I talk to you? I saw you walking. Blah. Blah. Really nice dress. "

Alternativley: "I am looking for this and that (post office), can you help me? " You really don't need to say anything sophisticated. Give her a smile and look her into the eyes and she will immediately know that you don't give a fuck about the post office.

In your case, as you can't afford to sneak out to the pick-up joints, the pick-up-where-ever-you-go should be the best. Maybe get a second SIM-Card or a second mobile phone so that you don't need to give out your main number and you can decide when you are reachable for your new girls. Believe me, they will call you and there is nothing more embarrassing then having to pick up while dining with your wife.

Don't worry about them knowing about your constraints. Lay your cards on the table and there will be no problem. In fact, I still have to meet an African who does not have at least one girlfriend in addition to his wife. I think most of my friends have two or three. And everybody plays that way, and everybody knows it, and everybody tries to pretend (at least for a short while) that they are good guys or women.

If you do this in the US, then what are you waiting for? And get the ones that are attracted by the prospect of exciting moments with an exotic (white) stranger combined with some spoiling. Forget the ones that are lured simply by kwatcha.

[AfAsia]

I wonder if I try the brief introduction, a little conversation, then business technique- will the girls here totally be offended.

Zambeef

Mate,

I am yet to set foot in Zambia, perhaps we will correct this in July. Cannot comment on this precise location just yet. However, it is my experience of first, being born and brought up in Africa, and having travelled in Africa, most African women are highly approachable and are flattered so. Offended? I doubt not.

I presume you are American. My feeling is that some women may in some small way be intimidated at the sound of your accent. You will have a little more work to do, putting them at ease, bringing out the nice guy and of course the smile should do, i reckon. An interesting question you have raised.

[Zambeef]

Have any of you guys ever tried the cards on the table "street proposition" in downtown Lusaka or surrounding? I have noticed that in most of the posts and experiences you seasoned professionals have found the tried and true pick up locations where you are approached. That sounds perfect. If you are traveling solo, and have the time.

I have seen so many divine thin things walking around downtown, dressed to be looked at, that don't mind looking you in the eyes. Unfortunately I do not have the freedom to play the sugar daddy role, or take them back to my place due to my attachments. Have any of you gentlemen tried any form of street proposition approach, even in the bars- or do you wait for the right girl to grab the seat next to you?

I'm ballsy enough to try it back in the US because you can read the 'right kind of girl' like a book. But I wonder if I try the brief introduction, a little conversation, then business technique- will the girls here totally be offended. Most are so shy, especially around foreigners. I wonder if the allure of kwatcha would be enough, or I'd be paying off ploice within the hour.

If any of you have experiences or suggestions in this direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Zambeef

[Jim01]

speed - thanks for the rod.

my advise would be to avoid lusaka. it's uninspiring.

if you like the activities, there's enough things to do in livingstone to spend a full 2 weeks there. with no safari, there's enough for 6-10 days.

there's plenty of trans-country buses roaming all over the place but i never got to know the routes.

zambia does do visa on arrival at lusaka airport, but my crappy airline insisted on visa at check in so i had to go to the zambian embassy and get one. i would check up on it.

plenty of cash machines in lusaka and livingstone, but only my credit card worked and not my debit card. i would get travellers cheques.

[AfAsia]

Mate,

Great report, sent you to ROD.

Hoping to take a bus journey up from Johannesburg, via Botswana, Zimbabwe and then on to Lusaka and Livingstone as you have recommended. That`s if there is any such service, this is just in my phantom world at the moment, got some planning to do, possible mid July. Any advice you could offer would be welcomed, Zambia that is.

Did you obtain your visa on arrival, if so, was this problematic at all? I should imagine cash machines are available in Zambia? Plan on spending five days or so in Zambia, long enough? Still got to work my way down to Mozambique, after - to my honey - should be totally spent by then, plan to do all this in a twenty one day period. Have to eat my spinach for this trip.

[Jim01]

The Lusaka lady I knocked about with.