Madagascar

[Roaming Viking]

The room looks great, more modern than Glacier. I will be sure to check it out next time.

Stay 11/2022.

Wanted to try something new and went to the Hotel Shalimar next to LE Realis Normande on the recommendation of someone from ISG.

This is about a 3 minute walk from the Sole Hotel.

I roamed around everywhere at night and found everything sufficiently safe.

Had a premium room but was superfluous. Medium would have been enough. The only difference to the medium is that air conditioning can be included here, but it is superfluous. Not needed in Tana.

Walk-in had moved into the room without booking anything beforehand.

You can also pay for the room at the reception with a card, also with Mastercard.

My room was on the third floor. During the day it is audibly loud. However, it was quiet at night.

The room was very large and extremely spacious.

Everything made a clean impression.

The WIFI was super fast.

A modern lift is also available.

No safe.

Fridge available.

TV with many channels.

Ladies visit with ID no problem. Had a few Streethookers wit me.

There is a restaurant in the hotel below from 8 am to 10 pm. You can also have breakfast there for a fee.

You can also use the room telephone to order breakfast and food to your room.

A great hotel in my opinion. I would definitely visit again. Nobody should really be put off by the location, it's really around the corner from the Sole and no problem, since it's a long walk, even at night. You just have to go down a long street.

In addition, it is also cheaper than Sole.

Absolute recommendation!

[DzikaBomba]

Stay 11/2022.

Wanted to try something new and went to the Hotel Shalimar next to LE Realis Normande on the recommendation of someone from ISG.

This is about a 3 minute walk from the Sole Hotel.

I roamed around everywhere at night and found everything sufficiently safe.

Had a premium room but was superfluous. Medium would have been enough. The only difference to the medium is that air conditioning can be included here, but it is superfluous. Not needed in Tana.

Walk-in had moved into the room without booking anything beforehand.

You can also pay for the room at the reception with a card, also with Mastercard.

My room was on the third floor. During the day it is audibly loud. However, it was quiet at night.

The room was very large and extremely spacious.

Everything made a clean impression.

The WIFI was super fast.

A modern lift is also available.

No safe.

Fridge available.

TV with many channels.

Ladies visit with ID no problem. Had a few Streethookers wit me.

There is a restaurant in the hotel below from 8 am to 10 pm. You can also have breakfast there for a fee.

You can also use the room telephone to order breakfast and food to your room.

A great hotel in my opinion. I would definitely visit again. Nobody should really be put off by the location, it's really around the corner from the Sole and no problem, since it's a long walk, even at night. You just have to go down a long street.

In addition, it is also cheaper than Sole.

Absolute recommendation!

[Roaming Viking]

Yes don't worry about bringing girls to Glacier hotel. You can bring 5 girls a day if you wish haha.

Glacier is by far the best GF hotel I stayed at. Staff is very friendly and will actually set you up too. Be good to them and they will treat you well too.

Hope you enjoy your stay.

[Pute Nut]

Yes don't worry about bringing girls to Glacier hotel. You can bring 5 girls a day if you wish haha.

Sounds great, but does the joiner fee kick in with number 6..? LOL.

[Kako123]

Yes don't worry about bringing girls to Glacier hotel. You can bring 5 girls a day if you wish haha.

Thanks for a great and useful report, good to hear you got away scot free, Viking! On balance, in which order would you rate the hotels you stayed in? Glacier seems adequate, and I assume not they are not focusing on families, so quite solo traveler friendly as compared to Shangai?

[Pute Nut]

I stayed in a number of hotels in Tana, including the Glacier, which is not bad by local standards. They even have a fridge in the room. And the staff is extremely friendly. I always bought them the drinks and sandwiches and they helped me a lot by keeping an eye out for me and offering me extra good service.

I also stayed at the Shangai Hotel, which is a more family oriented but situate on the hill overlooking the Avenue de l'Independance. The staff is very friendly and the food good.

I checked out Sole Hotel but it is a bit far removed from the Avenue de L'Independance and I would not walk around there at night. Several FLs on the street opposite the hotel in the afternoon. They typically asked 30-40,000. There are other hotels on the avenue de l'Independance as well and they look OK.

I felt perfectly safe in the Glacier hotel. Outside is another story after 7 PM. This guy jumped me early one night in the street outside the hotel but I was carrying nothing of value. I easily pushed him away with my arm and leg sending him sprawling. I am surprised that he approached me because I am not exactly a small guy. Quite the opposite. I stand two meters tall and weigh 110 kilos. Despite my age mid-seventies--I am in the shape of my life. His sidekick quickly backed away when his partner in crime went down. But I learned my lesson and avoided the arcades on either side of the Avenue de l'independence after dark. Better to walk in the inner lane reserved for parking.

Thanks for a great and useful report, good to hear you got away scot free, Viking! On balance, in which order would you rate the hotels you stayed in? Glacier seems adequate, and I assume not they are not focusing on families, so quite solo traveler friendly as compared to Shangai?

[SGK45]

This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.

Hi Mate.

Lesson no 1: Never influence middle men.

Since I have travelled quite a bit. I know that certain places are operated through SPAs and Brothels. SPAs and Brothels are a mafia. Perfect example is girlie bars in Thailand and South East Asia. Countries like Australia is very oppressive to mongers because of oppressive regulations. When you enter into a legal brothel in Queensland, the sex worker comes to you wearing glouse to check your dick. It's oppressive to the level that you get a limp dick when they do that. Australia has been a famous place for street walkers where you can walk up to them and negotiate prices. But legal brothel system and online escort site that offer Asian hookers for high prices has runined the mongering scene. In countries mongering is not an industry. Girls get the full benefit of it. Whatever amount you pay them goes to them and their families. Even though you tip them as they please you it directly benifits them. There are two important facts you need to realise in mongering.

1. WGs don't do it for fun. They do it to survive.

2. It's a service and middle men ruined the service (Example: South East Asia).

Lazy mongers prefer Spas and Bars because they are too lazy, shy and insecure to talk to women. As clever mongers we should not influence middle men. We should never buy girls from girlie bars and pubs. We should always influence freelancers. We should tip them based on their service. We should do everything in our control to protect the freelance sex scene in countries. Because sex is a fundamental requirement. All these nonsense of women empowerment and bullshit make it oppressive to alpha males who are sexually active. If you meet women who are in need of money. Get their consent and offer a price in exchange of sex. Doesn't matter which country you reside. Then you can offer her to some of your friends and get her a customer line. We have to cut the middle men. We have to influence sex work in a way that directly benifits sex workers and mongers. That way, we as mongers can control the market. If we don't run by this code we may have to fuck shitty drunk tattooed hookers in bars for rediculous prices similar to some beer drinking loosers do in Thailand. It's funny they think WGs are their girlfriends.

Lesson no 2: Value preposition.

Value for sex workers in the market is an arbitrary value, hence always devalue sex workers and inform other mongers to pitch the same price. Always negotiate prices on websites when you call them or meet them. I have probably screwed more than 1000 sex workers (humbly) in Sri Lanka. Including actresses, models, showgirls, spa girls and what not. Lotta mongers pay rediculous amount of money to them. Especially foreign mongers. Maximum I ever paid is 50 USD. I always do ST as little as 25-30 USD. Anything more than that I offer my price, if they are firm I walk away and I inform others not to buy. Because it is not worth it. Russian and Thai sex workers residing or touring in Sri Lanka or India propose high value due to rarity factor. I always avoid Thai and Russian hookers in such countries and go for the local. It's always cheap to fly and screw a Russians or Thais if you so badly want to screw them. Make them feel like they lose a faithful customer. This is specially true when it comes to middle men (Spa / bar owners) You don't have to fuck by anyone' rules. You can make the rules.

[SGK45]

This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.

Hi Mate.

Lesson no 1: Never influence middle men.

Since I have travelled quite a bit. I know that certain places are operated through SPAs and Brothels. SPAs and Brothels are a mafia. Perfect example is girlie bars in Thailand and South East Asia. Countries like Australia is very oppressive to mongers because of oppressive regulations. When you enter into a legal brothel in Queensland, the sex worker comes to you wearing glouse to check your dick. It's oppressive to the level that you get a limp dick when they do that. Australia has been a famous place for street walkers where you can walk up to them and negotiate prices. But legal brothel system and online escort site that offer Asian hookers for high prices has runined the mongering scene. In countries mongering is not an industry. Girls get the full benefit of it. Whatever amount you pay them goes to them and their families. Even though you tip them as they please you it directly benifits them. There are two important facts you need to realise in mongering.

1. WGs don't do it for fun. They do it to survive.

2. It's a service and middle men ruined the service (Example: South East Asia).

Lazy mongers prefer Spas and Bars because they are too lazy, shy and insecure to talk to women. As clever mongers we should not influence middle men. We should never buy girls from girlie bars and pubs. We should always influence freelancers. We should tip them based on their service. We should do everything in our control to protect the freelance sex scene in countries. Because sex is a fundamental requirement. All these nonsense of women empowerment and bullshit make it oppressive to alpha males who are sexually active. If you meet women who are in need of money. Get their consent and offer a price in exchange of sex. Doesn't matter which country you reside. Then you can offer her to some of your friends and get her a customer line. We have to cut the middle men. We have to influence sex work in a way that directly benifits sex workers and mongers. That way, we as mongers can control the market. If we don't run by this code we may have to fuck shitty drunk tattooed hookers in bars for rediculous prices similar to some beer drinking loosers do in Thailand. It's funny they think WGs are their girlfriends.

Lesson no 2: Value preposition.

Value for sex workers in the market is an arbitrary value, hence always devalue sex workers and inform other mongers to pitch the same price. Always negotiate prices on websites when you call them or meet them. I have probably screwed more than 1000 sex workers (humbly) in Sri Lanka. Including actresses, models, showgirls, spa girls and what not. Lotta mongers pay rediculous amount of money to them. Especially foreign mongers. Maximum I ever paid is 50 USD. I always do ST as little as 25-30 USD. Anything more than that I offer my price, if they are firm I walk away and I inform others not to buy. Because it is not worth it. Russian and Thai sex workers residing or touring in Sri Lanka or India propose high value due to rarity factor. I always avoid Thai and Russian hookers in such countries and go for the local. It's always cheap to fly and screw a Russians or Thais if you so badly want to screw them. Make them feel like they lose a faithful customer. This is specially true when it comes to middle men (Spa / bar owners). You don't have to fuck by anyone's rules. You can make the rules.

[Neddy69]

This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.

Mate. There is no and there's never been a "logic" in pricing in subsaharan Africa. Read my countless posts to that subject. Use the search function. A good rule of thumb is a white man pays roughly double to one and a half the price a local pays. For example in Tana a local pays 20.000 MGA for a shag. I mongered in ten subsaharan countries now. And it's everywhere the same. 10 USD. Except. Tourist areas or rich expat or rich local venues like 5* Hotels or upmarket Discotheques in the most expensive neighbourhoods. There the price quoted can easily be 10 Times as much I. E. 100 USD. Another factor is language. If the girl speaks English in non English speaking colonies a skill set expect the base price of 10 $ to multiply by 5 to 10.

The other factor is time. Time in subsaharan Africa is irrelevant.

ST can be one shag or two shags. 30 minutes or 2 hours. Get used to it. In some markets the difference between overnight called fortwith LT is relatively benign. After a certain hour public transport might not be available or it might be outright dangerous to move so girls prefer to look for a bed to sleep. How often you shag. It depends. Usually 2 to 3 times. There's the age old problem of girls you agreed to for "LT" and she tries to take off after one shag and still collect a higher rate. Always negotiate a "shag" and see how the vibez are. There's. A zillion factors.

Bienvenue a Afrique Noir.

La Buse.

[Roaming Viking]

Greetings, All things considered I have had a very good trip so far, traveling to a couple of places, Sambava and Tolear, among others. By plane, I should add. It sure beats private taxi. To say nothing of the taxi brousse.

Tana is interesting too. I had never really explored the city before and there is much to see. I took several walking through the Office du Tourisme situated at the top of the hill in a wonderful small park adjacent to the Hotel du Louvre. Also, I squeezed in the Parc des Lemurs and the Royal Palace. Negotiate a good price. It is worth it. Always negotiate.

I stayed in a number of hotels in Tana, including the Glacier, which is not bad by local standards. They even have a fridge in the room. And the staff is extremely friendly. I always bought them the drinks and sandwiches and they helped me a lot by keeping an eye out for me and offering me extra good service.

I also stayed at the Shangai Hotel, which is a more family oriented but situate on the hill overlooking the Avenue de l'Independance. The staff is very friendly and the food good.

I checked out Sole Hotel but it is a bit far removed from the Avenue de L'Independance and I would not walk around there at night. Several FLs on the street opposite the hotel in the afternoon. They typically asked 30-40,000. There are other hotels on the avenue de l'Independance as well and they look OK.

I felt perfectly safe in the Glacier hotel. Outside is another story after 7 PM. This guy jumped me early one night in the street outside the hotel but I was carrying nothing of value. I easily pushed him away with my arm and leg sending him sprawling. I am surprised that he approached me because I am not exactly a small guy. Quite the opposite. I stand two meters tall and weigh 110 kilos. Despite my age –mid-seventies--I am in the shape of my life. His sidekick quickly backed away when his partner in crime went down. But I learned my lesson and avoided the arcades on either side of the Avenue de l'independence after dark. Better to walk in the inner lane reserved for parking.

I had a bad case of diarrhea, maybe from omelettes. To be avoided, they say, since eggs are never refrigerated even in the stores. I would also avoid the mayonnaise. But the hotel staff at the Glacier helped me find a good doctor and even escorted me there. Total cost 30,000 ariar with meds. That would have cost a lot more in the States.

The Glacier club across the street has a number of gems actually. You just have to look. Treat them well and they will reciprocate in kind. I typically would invite my lady of choice upstairs for a light snack and drinks and talk. They want at least 40,000 but since I treated them to dinner they seldom charged anything at all and gave fantastic service. They all spoke decent French by the way.

The music at the Glacier ain't bad and I sometimes I would just chill in the bar with a beer and listen to the band.

Keep well and enjoy. But take care. This is not Disneyland. Never carry anything of value with you beyond whatever cash you plan to spend.

[Neddy69]

Yes offering the price first is a good idea. I have been asked 250.000 AR for ST. Haha.

Maybe you misunderstood. Ask if she meant FMG. Franc Malagasy. Ariary divided by 5 equals 50.000. LOL. Having said that. A friend of mine was quoted 500 USD on Tinder.

[Golfinho]

This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.

The people in this country are dirt poor. They have to do whatever they can do to survive. Fascinating logic, huhn?

[Zach Hammond]

Yes offering the price first is a good idea. I have been asked 250.000 AR for ST. Haha.

This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.

[Kako123]

Yes offering the price first is a good idea. I have been asked 250.000 AR for ST. Haha.

Guys,

You can be rich folks but never offer more money. It's 50-60 LT. ST is 30-40 k ariary. Even on social media and dating apps. Keep them prices tight.

Inform other mongers who are not on ISG. You are ruining the place for everyone. If someone offer you prices as high as 150 k. It's a no go and you can always find it cheap and better girls to shag. Also you can offer the price first.

[Pute Nut]

Guys,

You can be rich folks but never offer more money. It's 50-60 LT. ST is 30-40 k ariary. Even on social media and dating apps. Keep them prices tight.

Thank you. Will apply, I see no point in overpaying for anything I buy in a secondhand car lot or for a well-used harlot.