Madagascar

[Tinte]

Went there only once. I liked it instantly.

They played music to my taste. A nice mix of guests and cultivated fellow mongers as well. The bar is a kind of circle in the middle of the floor. On can do the hookerhopping round the bar, then go upstairs whit the choice where there is a small bar again and a chambre separee.

Doable loos by the way.

Since I got hunted down and got offers everywhere even by the hotel stuff I focused on other attractions. Like good, safe food.

[Tinte]

Yes it is a institution one has to bee in once. I visited the place twice at night and twice at daylight. Went to the casino upstairs and to the loo downstairs.

To me it is a depressing, fascinating, sleazily. Sh. LE.

Will I go again? For sure.

[Amadeuss]

Hired a driver and went to Tulear. Took 3 nights and was worth every cent. I gave a Dauphin girl a lift which was a waste because word got out each time we arrived in a small town en route about the vahaza and my driver was picking a girl each night from the ones suddenly hanging around in the street outside where we stayed. It cost me 10 k maybe.

I did plan that a month ago. But then a cyclone came and made the pathes difficult to pass. Only way out by plane back to Tana.

In addition, the cheapest offer I got for the trip with a 4 WD was 400 EU, as I had to pay for the return trip of the car as well. How much did you pay?

[Neddy69]

My longtime Mada Veteran friend told me how things are settled here. In the beginning he didn't know the local customs. If you live here at years end the local chef de police or even better the prefet or sous prefet of the province gets a suitable year end cash donation in a brown envelope. Like 200 k the amount is not so important. This is the slush fund for women and booze, as the meagre salary goes to the wife of the guy. After that you'll never be harassed by local police anymore.

My mate told me hilarious story. He travelled with the local sous prefet in his red Mercedes. They were stopped at a police checkpoint. The unfortunate patrolman didn't know he was dealing with the Sous Prefet. After a good dressing down they were on way again. Sans cadeau. My mate was waved through in the whole province whenever he showed up in his red Benz passing through police or gendarmerie checkpoints. LOL.

La Buse.

All it takes is a phone call.

[Neddy69]

Travelled 20 hrs yesterday and after taking 2 planes and 2 trains I am back home. After 6 weeks Madagascar it feels unreal and uneasy to be home again. Yesterday I was in Tana with my holiday girlfriend. She was crying for hours and speaking Malagasy to me although she can speak French. Now I am in my cold Western apartment and she is in her place in the hot and humid Nosy countryside. I'm experiencing a reverse culture shock. I feel like I went into a time machine and got thrown back in another time and place.

I don't know if I will be going back to Madagascar. I speak fluent French but I felt I was an outsider. As Neddy mentioned before, there is a huge French mongering expat community but they will largely stick to their own. Only in Nosy was I able to penetrate the French bubble. If I do return I'll probably fly directly to Nosy. I will not be going to the south (Tulear) again. In my opinion Tulear is more for French pensioners on a very tight budget. There is not much to see or to do. I don't care if I have to pay 5 Euro or 20 Euro for a girl. I want quality time when I'm on holidayp.

On Malagasy scams. In Nosy I spoke with several French Madagascar veterans and they all said the same. If a girl starts making a scene about money and threatens to call the police they simply pay. I don't know how I would deal with that myself. I can't imagine myself paying huge sums just because a girl demands so but on the other hand I also don't want to get into problems with the cops.

I know exactly what you mean. Reverse culture shock. Absolutely. I get massive withdrawal symptoms after a couple of weeks back in Europe. For me the true shithole is the West... Not Africa. Time machine absolutely. Its like Europe 60 years ago. No #metoo. No sexualharassment BS. Here you get harassed by the girls LOL. No LBGT BS. 80's disco. Total timewarp. People actually talk to each other. Greet me on the street. No terrorists. Just girls dress hot and you hit on them. Perfectly normal. Here you smoke your fat spliff with a gorgeous perfectly hopefully legal 18 years (hahaha) drop dead gorgeous gasy chica in your in arm and look at the flawless southern stars sky while the selector pumps up the volume in the open air boite...

Malagasy scams. Usually the underage scam. Fake IDs or borrowed big Sis ID. Its not that expensive. Usually the girls are happy with a couple of 10k ar. Only tourists pay too much. They get charged in Euros. LOL.
Mate of mine. Expat 30+ years in Mada fell for it too. The girl tried to blackmail him at police. Tough luck for her. My friend knows Chef de Police. 200.000 AR. Problem finish. And the girl was not local. When the local chics found out she blackmailed, she was hounded out of town with two black eyes. And she got zero money. Thats how things are settled in Mada.

La Buse.

Who had some close shaves in Morondave. LOL.

[Tungsten2]

I went there in 2016. Beautiful location but again there's nothing happening daytime and I saw the same faces in the same bar (Florida?) each night.

Hired a driver and went to Tulear. Took 3 nights and was worth every cent. I gave a Dauphin girl a lift which was a waste because word got out each time we arrived in a small town en route about the vahaza and my driver was picking a girl each night from the ones suddenly hanging around in the street outside where we stayed. It cost me 10 k maybe.

[Tinte]

Thanks for that helpful information, Tinte. everyone finds their own level.

What do you mean Mada is not a 'regular' destination? That makes no sense.

Regular in terms of not made for the average monger, the scene mainly is not made for foreigners and their specific needs.

Everyone finds their own level? Yes in terms of different up level challenges and therefore rewards.

Have I ever mentioned money? No. Because not the point by the way.

[TailPipe]

Travelled 20 hrs yesterday and after taking 2 planes and 2 trains I am back home. After 6 weeks Madagascar it feels unreal and uneasy to be home again. Yesterday I was in Tana with my ‘holiday girlfriend’. She was crying for hours and speaking Malagasy to me although she can speak French. Now I am in my cold Western apartment and she is in her place in the hot and humid Nosy countryside. I'm experiencing a reverse culture shock. I feel like I went into a time machine and got thrown back in another time and place.

I don't know if I will be going back to Madagascar. I speak fluent French but I felt I was an outsider. As Neddy mentioned before, there is a huge French mongering expat community but they will largely stick to their own. Only in Nosy was I able to penetrate the French bubble. If I do return I'll probably fly directly to Nosy. I will not be going to the south (Tulear) again. In my opinion Tulear is more for French pensioners on a very tight budget. There is not much to see or to do. I don't care if I have to pay 5 Euro or 20 Euro for a girl. I want quality time when I'm on holiday.

On Malagasy scams. In Nosy I spoke with several French Madagascar veterans and they all said the same. If a girl starts making a scene about money and threatens to call the police they simply pay. I don't know how I would deal with that myself. I can't imagine myself paying huge sums just because a girl demands so but on the other hand I also don't want to get into problems with the cops.

[Neddy69]

That's all? A couple of dozen in Tana? Then it's more about 99% locals. Same in the Philippines even thou there are more puti (white) mongers but if you compare their number to the locals. ? Maybe whites are more visible but that's all. I was dating a girl from Bacolod a fairly large city in the Visayans some years ago and some of her friends warned her about me once they found out that I was from the USA. They told her to be careful with me because Americans are responsible for a lot of prostitution including underage prostitution in the Philippines and I might be a rapist too. I took her to "Golden Field Bacolod Entertainment Center" where all the girl bars are concentrated so she can see for herself how many white colonizers are there. But we didn't see any so I had her talk to the doormen and also the mamason in all the bars just to make sure. I really dragged her through it. The common reaction she got was a head shake with a smile: No whites! All locals and some Korean and Chinese. That convinced her. There is one more thing: Most of the underage prostitution in the Philippines by foreigners is done by Japanese and by far. They just keep a low profile stay out of sight and organized usually in high end hotels. They don't get a bad press neither the Korean sex tourist even though they dominate the market. It seems to me that the media and the leftist are just using the West's self hating "blame whitey for everything" narrative for their own agenda to push their religion of victimalogy. Do you feel some of that also in Madagascar and other African countries?

To a certain degree yes. The white man is responsible for all evil. In Mada less so. But in other african countries a lot of BS is spread around in churches and in the media each time the white man is involved in something. Novelty effect I guess. Same everywhere. Most so called underage prostitution is local. Or else how you explain the staggering number of child pregnancies everywhere. 99.9% locals.

La Buse.

The simple African tends to believe all the BS which is spread by these self-styled ministers of these free christian churches. For example. Of course the bad white man is responsible for the spread of HIV...

[Neddy69]

For all Thai Sex tourists. Stay away.

Just some clippings from last days newspapers.

Armed bandits roam everywhere.

Analakely in broad daylight?

https://lexpress.mg/30/12/2019/anala...lle-etrangere/

RN13. Attacks by 30 dahalo.

https://lexpress.mg/27/12/2019/rn-13...tre-vehicules/

Same in Tamatave. These people operate in groups of 10 or more people. Armed with pistols, machetes and knives.

https://lexpress.mg/28/12/2019/toama...sse-par-balle/

Beach Holiday in Antalaha also good idea now.

https://lexpress.mg/30/12/2019/intem...dans-le-chaos/

La Buse.

[Golfinho]

what you make out of it and your personal preference. Mada has not been and will never become a destination like the regular ones, it it.

Thanks for that helpful information, Tinte. I already experienced things like the taxi brousse ride from tana to tamatave then up the coast to a ferry crossing to Ste. Marie. Now, I take the flight direct from Tana. For Antsirabe, the white cabs at airport Tana will take you there directly upon arrival. No need to experience Cotisse 'luxury' again and again unless it is unavoidable. But, a lot has to do with your budget or any personal preferences. The real Mada can be staying in beautiful French colonial villa (with cook and house-keeper) or in a 20 k a night squat with your streetwalkers. Up to you, everyone finds their own level.

What do you mean Mada is not a 'regular' destination? That makes no sense.

[Neddy69]

Sounds like that starfish that gave me an STD. She had blond dyed hair. Absolutely useless in bed and then the condom broke. Got that fixed with a anti Cancroid / Herpes medicinal cocktail kit LOL. Did make me lose a week in Nosy afterwards.

Things to do in Tana:

Went in Tana to the restaurant 'coin du foie gras' in the Isoraka area. I'm a big fan of goose liver pate. Went there at noon. To my surprise they had an all you can eat cold buffet for 25 k. Very good quality, fresh products, good cooking. After an hour or so they start serving a couple of warm dishes. I think the buffet is only Friday afternoon. If you come specifically for the goose liver you may better come another day. The foie gras at the buffet is a sort of mixed liver. I did get some whole pieces of quality foie gras but that was because I had mentioned that was the reason of my visit. It is not part of the buffet. The restaurant closes at 19:00!

Went with a girl to cinepax cinema at the Waterfront Shopping Center. Tickets 25 k, Thursdays 30 k for 2.

Also went to shopping center La City. Nothing special but resembles somewhat Western shopping centres. Not a slippers and tank top area as I was walking around there LOL.

Opposite hotel Le Relais Normand there is a market area. If you walk in that area through the little alleyways past the 'gargottes' you will see in the back a series of tiny bars of about 2 to 3 square metres. I'm pretty sure they double up as wh*rehouses at night. I don't mind a bit of grubbiness but this is a very deprived area and you have to have suicidal tendencies to walk into the market at night.

No it wasn't her. But I had a girl from Tana with blond dyed hair in Morondave. Uups.

La Buse.

Who ll avail himself to Condomi extra thin capotes more often.

[Neddy69]

No need in trying to read between the lines, since everyone is openly revealing to you the facts about Mada.

Quite certain, everything wears off. Even your most comfortable shoes one day.

So it is just what you make out of it and your personal preference.

Mada has not been and will never become a destination like the regular ones, it is as unique as the ones who like it.

Exactly. Either you fall in love and learn to live with the pitifalls and shortcomings of a country or not. If all you look is for a cheap shag don't come to Mada. Or for that matter to subsaharan Africa. I had a house in Gambia for 2 years and an Apartment in Mtwapa. I know about african living. LOL.

La Buse.

[TailPipe]

After an ok and surprisingly quick 10 hours pothole filled ride from Fianar Cotisse Premium dropped me off exactly at 1800 at the station. I wish Premium was available everywhere. Worth every penny.

As we approached Tana the city showed itself from its lovely side. I was almost shocked how pleasant Analekely was. Light traffic only half the street hawkers. Only beggars as obnoxious as ever. Sunshine. A breeze cleared out all the smog and pollution.

Evenings. I was surprised by the number of police patrols out there. They patrol in groups of 6. Lots of signs of improvement. New garbage trucks new Fire engines. The new president seems to rake in Donations.

Went to Glacier last night. Its one of last authentic joints on earth I think. An institution. If you have not been at Glacier you haven't been in Mada. A microcosm of oddballs, tired ass hookers, gasy playboys, retired French mongers. There's a blind man hanging out there and a Chinese monger. Nothing has changed. Thanks god. Except the prices. Seems to be a new manager. A hilarious gasy band was on. I'd say a mix of Buena Vista Social Club and the Blues Brothers. Three blind guys with cool Ray Bans rocking away gasy songs. One guitarrist had all his front teeth missing. A buyer's market. 30 chicas and maybe 4 mongers on the ground. I sort of got side tracked by a very slim chic. Beautiful face. Took her home. Turned out to be a complete dud. Sucked out tits. Oh well. Doggy was bearable. After the deed I kicked her out straight away with 60 k. Yuck.

La Buse.

Who'll take a Street Walker next time. Some Lookers.

Sounds like that starfish that gave me an STD. She had blond dyed hair. Absolutely useless in bed and then the condom broke. Got that fixed with a anti Cancroid / Herpes medicinal cocktail kit LOL. Did make me lose a week in Nosy afterwards.

Things to do in Tana:

Went in Tana to the restaurant 'coin du foie gras' in the Isoraka area. I'm a big fan of goose liver pate. Went there at noon. To my surprise they had an all you can eat cold buffet for 25 k. Very good quality, fresh products, good cooking. After an hour or so they start serving a couple of warm dishes. I think the buffet is only Friday afternoon. If you come specifically for the goose liver you may better come another day. The foie gras at the buffet is a sort of mixed liver. I did get some whole pieces of quality foie gras but that was because I had mentioned that was the reason of my visit. It is not part of the buffet. The restaurant closes at 19:00!

Went with a girl to cinepax cinema at the Waterfront Shopping Center. Tickets 25 k, Thursdays 30 k for 2.

Also went to shopping center La City. Nothing special but resembles somewhat Western shopping centres. Not a slippers and tank top area as I was walking around there LOL.

Opposite hotel Le Relais Normand there is a market area. If you walk in that area through the little alleyways past the 'gargottes' you will see in the back a series of tiny bars of about 2 to 3 square metres. I'm pretty sure they double up as wh*rehouses at night. I don't mind a bit of grubbiness but this is a very deprived area and you have to have suicidal tendencies to walk into the market at night.

[Tinte]

No need in trying to read between the lines, since everyone is openly revealing to you the facts about Mada.

Quite certain, everything wears off. Even your most comfortable shoes one day.

So it is just what you make out of it and your personal preference.

Mada has not been and will never become a destination like the regular ones, it is as unique as the ones who like it.