Madagascar

[Neddy69]

As I said in Africa nothing is what it seems to me Non pro means the opposite that it does in the west meaning you can fuck all night bareback is optional, Blow jobs are professional not just an afterthought I don't have to have anal but it's nice to have. And most importantly although she wants your money she doesn't desparately need your money.

It's the cheap hardcores that are supporting an extended family on you, try to make a home and drive other girls away. The nonpro with a job or other dudes or lives at home is the ones I want.

In the west usually you get a discount for extended use in Africa it's cheaper to short term it, But newbie Trip did Trip up on Dating apps and "freebies" which turned out more expensive than ST. But my problem is literally wanting to fuck all night and wanting to keep going even if I run out of condoms.

Before anyone says anything I don't understand why I never had an STD either. I try to use condoms but and I don't insist on not using them I just never object if they don't object. And unless she's of supermodel quality and I'm extremely horny I can't accept covered blow jobs, That's literally where I cross the line.

Saying what I said Neddy what do you think?

Signed the guy who's open to adventure mongering but not stupid enough to monger in Southern Africa.

Trip.

Trip.

Why would I go to SA. Any BORN SA guy gets the hell out of there. Loads of crime and 25% HIV rate. Its FUCKED. PERIOD. I only do BBBJ in Africa. Why the hell should I put a raincoat. I love bareback. My 80! Years old mate puts it succinctly. Others do ultra marathons at 80! I take TB to Morondave and get laid by legal age? Chics. HAHAHA.

Case closed.

La Buse.

LEGALIZE!

[Triple Darknes]

I am honored. LOL. But some people have the impression here I sleep in African round huts in small villages all the time. Well you can do that of course. Than your budget will be next to nothing of course. In fact I am planning to do that. But it needs some planning. There you eat what the locals eat. The meal is usually cooked outside over a charcoal cooker. You'll have no running water or electricity. But you might have internet. Sounds crazy? That's the way it is. There your cost of living will be probably 200 usd or less. More like 100 usd. And that includes of course the village girls which knock on your door after nightfall to get some white sperm. A place I selected is the Bijagos. But also here in Western Madagascar or in the North east there is communities only to be accessed by sea.

La Buse.

A good educational book to read is:

The Innocent Anthropologist: Notes from a Mud Hut (English Edition) https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00B9CO4YG/..._3352Db8GP2XYG.

I want to clarify some other misconceptions. You can shag for 10 usd or less in ALL subsaharan African countries. Nothing special really. If you only come to Mada for a cheap shag you'll never enjoy it. Big booties. Don't come to Mada. Yes occasionally there is. Go to Nigeria or Uganda. And ALL sex in subsaharan africa is transactional as well. These girls sleep with you for money. Even they so called nonpros. Even if some people always claim they never pay for sex. Makes me laugh. They pay for food drinks transport jewelry a phone. Give me a break. As my belgian friend put it. Only sun in Africa is FREE. The difference is that you MIGHT get away paying less with an office worker, waitress or any other girl with a regular job. But these are advanced strategies for seniors like NM Expert...

As I said in Africa nothing is what it seems to me Non pro means the opposite that it does in the west meaning you can fuck all night bareback is optional, Blow jobs are professional not just an afterthought I don't have to have anal but it's nice to have. And most importantly although she wants your money she doesn't desparately need your money.

It's the cheap hardcores that are supporting an extended family on you, try to make a home and drive other girls away. The nonpro with a job or other dudes or lives at home is the ones I want.

In the west usually you get a discount for extended use in Africa it's cheaper to short term it, But newbie Trip did Trip up on Dating apps and "freebies" which turned out more expensive than ST. But my problem is literally wanting to fuck all night and wanting to keep going even if I run out of condoms.

Before anyone says anything I don't understand why I never had an STD either. I try to use condoms but and I don't insist on not using them I just never object if they don't object. And unless she's of supermodel quality and I'm extremely horny I can't accept covered blow jobs, That's literally where I cross the line.

Saying what I said Neddy what do you think?

Signed the guy who's open to adventure mongering but not stupid enough to monger in Southern Africa.

Trip.

[Triple Darknes]

This was an interesting post. I'm in a similar situation (as it seems is Triple Darkness): I'm a regular single western guy, not rich not poor. I enjoy visiting and exploring new places and girls, but I wouldn't really say I'm a hardcore adventurer like Neddy who likes going way off the beaten path and living like locals in remote areas. I want a certain level of comfort on holiday.

I've visited Africa several times: Accra and Mombasa. Mombasa is better in terms of infrastructure and prices, and I would agree is a good choice if you're a total Africa newbie. However, I've found that most girls there don't really do it for me. They lack the thick thigh-bangin-booty MTV body shape of west Africans, and the delicate prettiness of Ethiopians. Of course some people find the Kenyan look more attractive, but that's just my taste.

Having browsed the forum for a while, what initially attracted me to Madagascar beyond the beautiful beaches and climate was the seemingly relaxed atmosphere of semipros (like you, I find the overly transactional approach to sex in Asia, well Pattaya / Angeles, somewhat of a turnoff) as well as the idea of taking home a teenage girl every night (legal of course), humping like bunnies, falling asleep together, having another round in the morning, then sending her on her way for 10 US Dollars, which is what I normally spend on lunch.

So I set my phone's GPS location to Nosy Be and fired up Badoo, and was impressed with what I found. As others have said, the ethnic mix on Madagascar has created some truly exotic beauties, and the overall standard seemed far higher than Mombasa. The reply rate was extremely high too, always a good sign, and I've set myself up with a handful of lovelies, though whether or not I'll get round to seeing them, who knows. Good to have in reserve.

I decided to bite the bullet and booked myself a flight to Nosy Be next summer, when I'll spend 6 weeks there. I plan to stay at Ambatoloaka as that's where the action is. Advice on the forum is not to book in advance, but I'm going to reserve my first week at Robinson Crusoe (15 Euro per night with WiFi; already been in touch via email, and we know it's girl-friendly), and spend the week figuring out the lay of the land. It may be that Robinson will be fine; it may be too much of a dump and I'll end up at one of the more upmarket places I saw on booking.com for about 40 euro a night (once I've ascertained whether they're girl-friendly, etc). Ultimately you can only RTFF so much, and you have to dive in. I have schoolboy French and Google translate, and it's often better not to be able to understand the inane blather of hot girls inbetween fucks anyway.

As SouthEaster said, what's the worst that can happen? I have a crap month. Oh well.

If you're planning to head over summer 2020 and you can get a senior membership here at ISG, drop me a PM and we can compare notes.

Expound on the differences in Infestructure and prices. To me Mombasa is kinda small a lot of people told me that the infestructure is better in Kenya and I've heard stories about prices. West Africans tend to be more muscluar but Luo's and even some Kambas will give West Africans a run for their money in the ass department. I know I'm the only monger to ask but what about the "things to do" situation? If the heat is the same as mombasa I'm going to need reliable Electricity (at least a back up generator) and decent 4 G internet speeds for me to be comfortable. Keep in mind that If I go to Ghana it will be for at least 3 months so that's a long time to be uncomfortable.

I kind of got my sea legs in negotiation but like you mentioned I prefer LT and condom optional how was the prices and the ability to get "nonpro" or at least not hardcore. How sticky are nonpros.

Based on the reports on Mada it seems like unless I get with actual fulltime street walkers I could get super GFE. Speaking of Nairobi I can say that chicks are pretty good at long game meaning they'll give you "freebies" and expect to be the main GF (with all the expenses of that).

What were the Accra Non Pros like? It almost seems like non pro doesn't exist in Mombasa.

[Neddy69]

Wouldn't using an eye mask seem somewhat easier? Weighs 4 grams.

Hahahaha. Actually he's also blinding to cool the room down. Of course. If the afternoon sun is burning down in your room its getting uncomfortable hot in the overpriced concrete bunkers called luxury hotels. That's why I still love the good old colonial style LE Central. 100 years ago they knew how to keep rooms naturally ventilated without A/C.

La Buse

[Doc16]

Few years ago when I traveled to Antalaha I bought blackout curtain I think 2 x2 meter super lightweight with 100 percent block light. I always travel with it.

Its not a fabric seems as a synthetic polymer on one side the grey and not sure about the black side. Anyway super thin no weight. I bought it from a street vendor. Then I use a Double-Sided Adhesive Tape that can carry 5 kg even then its just 400 gram.

Wouldn't using an eye mask seem somewhat easier? Weighs 4 grams.

[Neddy69]

I enjoy visiting and exploring new places and girls, but I wouldn't really say I'm a hardcore adventurer like Neddy who likes going way off the beaten path and living like locals in remote areas. I want a certain level of comfort on holiday.

I've visited Africa several times: Accra and Mombasa. Mombasa is better in terms of infrastructure and prices, and I would agree is a good choice if you're a total Africa newbie. However, I've found that most girls there don't really do it for me. They lack the thick thigh-bangin-booty MTV body shape of west Africans, and the delicate prettiness of Ethiopians.

Having browsed the forum for a while, what initially attracted me to Madagascar beyond the beautiful beaches and climate was the seemingly relaxed atmosphere of semipros (like you, I find the overly transactional approach to sex in Asia, well Pattaya / Angeles, somewhat of a turnoff) as well as the idea of taking home a teenage girl every night (legal of course), humping like bunnies, falling asleep together, having another round in the morning, then sending her on her way for 10 US Dollars, which is what I normally spend on lunch.

So I set my phone's GPS location to Nosy Be and fired up Badoo, and was impressed with what I found. As others have said, the ethnic mix on Madagascar has created some truly exotic beauties, and the overall standard seemed far higher than Mombasa.

I am honored. LOL. But some people have the impression here I sleep in African round huts in small villages all the time. Well you can do that of course. Than your budget will be next to nothing of course. In fact I am planning to do that. But it needs some planning. There you eat what the locals eat. The meal is usually cooked outside over a charcoal cooker. You'll have no running water or electricity. But you might have internet. Sounds crazy? That's the way it is. There your cost of living will be probably 200 usd or less. More like 100 usd. And that includes of course the village girls which knock on your door after nightfall to get some white sperm. A place I selected is the Bijagos. But also here in Western Madagascar or in the North east there is communities only to be accessed by sea.

La Buse.

A good educational book to read is:

The Innocent Anthropologist: Notes from a Mud Hut (English Edition) https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00B9CO4YG/..._3352Db8GP2XYG.

I want to clarify some other misconceptions. You can shag for 10 usd or less in ALL subsaharan African countries. Nothing special really. If you only come to Mada for a cheap shag you'll never enjoy it. Big booties. Don't come to Mada. Yes occasionally there is. Go to Nigeria or Uganda. And ALL sex in subsaharan africa is transactional as well. These girls sleep with you for money. Even they so called nonpros. Even if some people always claim they never pay for sex. Makes me laugh. They pay for food drinks transport jewelry a phone. Give me a break. As my belgian friend put it. Only sun in Africa is FREE. The difference is that you MIGHT get away paying less with an office worker, waitress or any other girl with a regular job. But these are advanced strategies for seniors like NM Expert...

[Member #4673]

The only negative thing is the lack of blackout curtain.

Few years ago when I traveled to Antalaha I bought blackout curtain I think 2 x2 meter super lightweight with 100 percent block light. I always travel with it.

Its not a fabric seems as a synthetic polymer on one side the grey and not sure about the black side. Anyway super thin no weight. I bought it from a street vendor. Then I use a Double-Sided Adhesive Tape that can carry 5 kg even then its just 400 gram.

[Chris P]

I'm interested in going to Madagascar early to mid 2020. I am fascinated by the world of free & easy GFE, and cheap beach housing, and interesting things to photograph.

What I'd like to address is the contradiction of this place. It seems easy: The girls will say Bonjour if they fancy you, you look at them and if they fancy you back you say likewise. And then you lead them to your room and slip them somewhere between 30-50 k MGA. Which is, in United States Dollars, approximately nothing. That sounds almost as straightforward and easy as, say, Angeles in the Philippines except with less of a blatant pay-for-sex atmosphere. Yes, you have to pay but it's softer in feel.

Now, I am a soft western guy who likes his creature comforts. But if I am understanding correctly, there is one place where they exist: Nosy Be. If I go to Nosy Be, I might not get as perfect a GFE as some of the other places, but I would have reasonably civilized infrastructure, nice albeit expensive hotels, more or less functioning WiFi, etc. (I am in Mexico right now and I survived two days of non-functioning WiFi, although I would have rather not.).

So I go to Nosy Be, I find a cheap hotel right on the beach, and I enjoy my daily swim. I have our friend Google for translation services. As long as I have WiFi and the swim I am content. If I have girls that's the cherry on top. And it seems like girls should be plentiful and willing.

I do not have a lot of money. My budget would be gone in seconds in the French Riviera. But I have maybe 2-3 times what others are reporting spending. If I lose 30-40 k MGA a few times to scams it's not going to hurt me.

So: What do you guys think of my "soft western approach to Madagascar"? On paper it doesn't sound that much different from Angeles, but many posts in this forum say it's considerably more difficult than Angeles. I have read a lot about the difficulty of transportation and the often high cost of getting around, but it seems to me that if I fly in to Nosy Be and spend my trip in that area it would not be so bad.

So here I am, knock some holes in my plan and let me know the strong and weak points. If I go I will leave a detailed, verbose account with really, really nice quality photographs.

This was an interesting post. I'm in a similar situation (as it seems is Triple Darkness): I'm a regular single western guy, not rich not poor. I enjoy visiting and exploring new places and girls, but I wouldn't really say I'm a hardcore adventurer like Neddy who likes going way off the beaten path and living like locals in remote areas. I want a certain level of comfort on holiday.

I've visited Africa several times: Accra and Mombasa. Mombasa is better in terms of infrastructure and prices, and I would agree is a good choice if you're a total Africa newbie. However, I've found that most girls there don't really do it for me. They lack the thick thigh-bangin-booty MTV body shape of west Africans, and the delicate prettiness of Ethiopians. Of course some people find the Kenyan look more attractive, but that's just my taste.

Having browsed the forum for a while, what initially attracted me to Madagascar beyond the beautiful beaches and climate was the seemingly relaxed atmosphere of semipros (like you, I find the overly transactional approach to sex in Asia, well Pattaya / Angeles, somewhat of a turnoff) as well as the idea of taking home a teenage girl every night (legal of course), humping like bunnies, falling asleep together, having another round in the morning, then sending her on her way for 10 US Dollars, which is what I normally spend on lunch.

So I set my phone's GPS location to Nosy Be and fired up Badoo, and was impressed with what I found. As others have said, the ethnic mix on Madagascar has created some truly exotic beauties, and the overall standard seemed far higher than Mombasa. The reply rate was extremely high too, always a good sign, and I've set myself up with a handful of lovelies, though whether or not I'll get round to seeing them, who knows. Good to have in reserve.

I decided to bite the bullet and booked myself a flight to Nosy Be next summer, when I'll spend 6 weeks there. I plan to stay at Ambatoloaka as that's where the action is. Advice on the forum is not to book in advance, but I'm going to reserve my first week at Robinson Crusoe (15 Euro per night with WiFi; already been in touch via email, and we know it's girl-friendly), and spend the week figuring out the lay of the land. It may be that Robinson will be fine; it may be too much of a dump and I'll end up at one of the more upmarket places I saw on booking.com for about 40 euro a night (once I've ascertained whether they're girl-friendly, etc). Ultimately you can only RTFF so much, and you have to dive in. I have schoolboy French and Google translate, and it's often better not to be able to understand the inane blather of hot girls inbetween fucks anyway.

As SouthEaster said, what's the worst that can happen? I have a crap month. Oh well.

If you're planning to head over summer 2020 and you can get a senior membership here at ISG, drop me a PM and we can compare notes.

[Golfinho]

Had a look at Hotel LE Recife today. They only have 11 rooms and until now they where fully booked. At 45 000 it's a good deal but in comparison to Hotel Safee (75 000) the rooms are smaller and scruffy. Considering Tulear (Toliara) doesn't have a decent beach the swimming pool is a big bonus but I'm going to stay in Safee. If necessary I'll compromise in areas like Nosy Be where accomodation is more expensive.

The Saifee is my favorite hotel in Tulear. The only negative thing is the lack of blackout curtain. I had to put the bedspread over the window (which also cut down on the heat of the day) in order to sleep later. Their breakfast is a little weak, too, otherwise Saifee is ideal for this town (unless you crave a swimming pool).

[Member #4673]

Had a look at Hotel LE Recife today. They only have 11 rooms and until now they where fully booked. At 45 000 it's a good deal but in comparison to Hotel Safee (75 000) the rooms are smaller and scruffy. .

Don't forget the huge gym at LE Recife. Does Hotel Safee has Aircon?

[TailPipe]

Had a look at Hotel LE Recife today. They only have 11 rooms and until now they where fully booked. At 45 000 it's a good deal but in comparison to Hotel Saïfee (75 000) the rooms are smaller and scruffy. Considering Tulear (Toliara) doesn't have a decent beach the swimming pool is a big bonus but I'm going to stay in Saïfee. If necessary I'll compromise in areas like Nosy Be where accomodation is more expensive.

[Triple Darknes]

I'm interested in going to Madagascar early to mid 2020. I am fascinated by the world of free & easy GFE, and cheap beach housing, and interesting things to photograph.

What I'd like to address is the contradiction of this place. It seems easy: The girls will say Bonjour if they fancy you, you look at them and if they fancy you back you say likewise. And then you lead them to your room and slip them somewhere between 30-50 k MGA. Which is, in United States Dollars, approximately nothing. That sounds almost as straightforward and easy as, say, Angeles in the Philippines except with less of a blatant pay-for-sex atmosphere. Yes, you have to pay but it's softer in feel.

Now, I am a soft western guy who likes his creature comforts. But if I am understanding correctly, there is one place where they exist: Nosy Be. If I go to Nosy Be, I might not get as perfect a GFE as some of the other places, but I would have reasonably civilized infrastructure, nice albeit expensive hotels, more or less functioning WiFi, etc. (I am in Mexico right now and I survived two days of non-functioning WiFi, although I would have rather not.).

So I go to Nosy Be, I find a cheap hotel right on the beach, and I enjoy my daily swim. I have our friend Google for translation services. As long as I have WiFi and the swim I am content. If I have girls that's the cherry on top. And it seems like girls should be plentiful and willing.

I do not have a lot of money. My budget would be gone in seconds in the French Riviera. But I have maybe 2-3 times what others are reporting spending. If I lose 30-40 k MGA a few times to scams it's not going to hurt me.

So: What do you guys think of my "soft western approach to Madagascar"? On paper it doesn't sound that much different from Angeles, but many posts in this forum say it's considerably more difficult than Angeles. I have read a lot about the difficulty of transportation and the often high cost of getting around, but it seems to me that if I fly in to Nosy Be and spend my trip in that area it would not be so bad.

So here I am, knock some holes in my plan and let me know the strong and weak points. If I go I will leave a detailed, verbose account with really, really nice quality photographs.

You sound a lot like me. I don't want to rough it on my vacation. I need some western food and definitely western style hygiene standards. I haven't been to Mada yet so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt but Africa is not what it seems I have gotten 5 dollar short time in Nairobi. If you're in Africa and willing to go for ST you can pay 5 dollars or less once you've been there for a while (meaning six months or so) the problem isn't the price that you pay it's the long term costs.

You say you're a soft western guy I'm a soft western guy go to a country where almost no one speaks English a meet a chick who sucks and fucks the soul out of you who speaks English. You're going to feel sorry for her.

Better to get your sea legs with Nairobi slay queens until you develop the hardness for Africa. The only reason I'm going to Mada is to deletion the hardness. Besides as a westerner you'the want a girl with some western education. I'm going to Dar es Salaam where I'm going to try to meet a college graduate that I met in a Dar MP. Because she has a job now (not at the MP) she's not asking for money (the western union hustle) I'm going to ask her respectfully if I could fuck her sister who's also a college graduate.

Mada is not the place for a first trip to Africa in my opinion.

Trip.

[SlutLuster]

This all said even nosy be has issues like the rest of Mada, just not as many and not as bad! I am currently in Mexico as well and if you think Mexican infrastructure is not up to snuff, well you ain't seen nothing yet. Think the PI 30 years ago.

I'm in San Miguel de Allende, where I gather Mexico cleans up and welcomes the gringo at the expense of near-Western real estate prices. Everything else is surprisingly cheap. Don't know how the natives manage, but almost all my cab drivers are old guys who clearly bought their housing when it was dirt cheap. The only thing I noticed bad about infrastructure is that sidewalks are an obstacle course and cobblestone streets hurt my feet. Lovely place but girls conspicuous by their absence. I enjoy having top-end dining for around $25 a plate instead of $100 in Miami. I don't notice much commentary on food in Madagascar but it sounds like there is at least some French food in Nosy Be, which would be interesting even if not entirely authentic.

You will probably encounter a couple of naysayers here. My advice is ignore them and give it a try. What is the worst that can happen? Ripped off more than expected, more of a shithole than you expected, girls unfriendly or duds (should not be an issue LOL). OK, you tried and it's not for you.

You know, the guy who was unhappy didn't do that bad. He had some good experiences and got ripped off but not enough to damage him. He definitely got laid. I think I would have been a bit more adventurous, wanting to investigate 'bonjour' when he passed. I think he might be naturally grumpy where I am more roll with the punches style.

Just make sure you pay the girls 10 times the going rate. You wouldn't want to "exploit" them!

But then I would be ruining the ecosystem for everyone else! So no I would pay the going rate. It does not sound to me that the girls feel like they are being exploited. And to me they are the proper judges. I am of the age where discomfort is not for me. I might even blow the $8 k for business class. Yikes! Is it worth it? But if that means I could hit the ground running it might be worth it.

What do you dislike about Nosy Be? Is there a place you would recommend more for the traveler who starts there and wants at least some amenities? Most important for me is decent Internet and good restaurants. It's great in Mexico. When it works. LOL.

[Muzungufotsy]

Girls quote 30 k for ST and 40 k for long time.

They always try LT say very very long time as they try to stay with you during your whole journey.

In most places of the world you have many runners, but in Mada the most difficult thing is to get them leave the room next day.

All the girls always stayed with me till I left the room myself for breakfast or lunch.

Never paid these rates in Mangily. These are Nosybe rates not Mangily rates. Its half price easily. No wonder you can't kick them out.

[SouthEaster]

Not contradictions, it's just how the place is. Nosy Be is generally the place that most people think has the best infrastructure and is newbie friendly. I would tend to agree although I don't fancy the place much myself. By 2-3 times what most people are spending are you talking $1000 a month like Neddy? If you are you will live like a king. Your attitude about small losses is the right one, especially on your first trip. If you piss away 50 bucks in small rip offs or a girl that doesn't turn out well it is small potatoes for some lessons well learned.

This all said even nosy be has issues like the rest of Mada, just not as many and not as bad! I am currently in Mexico as well and if you think Mexican infrastructure is not up to snuff, well you ain't seen nothing yet. Think the PI 30 years ago.

You will probably encounter a couple of naysayers here. My advice is ignore them and give it a try. What is the worst that can happen? Ripped off more than expected, more of a shithole than you expected, girls unfriendly or duds (should not be an issue LOL). OK, you tried and it's not for you.

Just make sure you pay the girls 10 times the going rate. You wouldn't want to "exploit" them!