Madagascar

[Kako123]

Cotisse is supposed to be the biggest and best bus company in Mada but I have used them 2 times recently between Tana and Tamatave each time time driver speeding too much and overtaking almost everythink on its way. And the road between Tana and Tamatave you know how narrow the road is! Then I used another company which is not well known and it was much better. Drive was normal.

[Neddy69]

Just wondering if anyone has recently tried the Cotisse trip to Tulear. I have done the road once so know what to expect. But they do not give even a ballpark number for the length of the trip in hours. Anybody got an idea?

Nonstop it's 23 hours. Cotisse is operating now. They have an own new gare routiere in Tulear. It's a 100.000 MGA. I did it in 2 days back in June. 12 to 13 hours each. With 2 days stopover in Fianarantsoa. The road in the high plateau is full of potholes and curves. But one of the most scenic drives in Madagascar. And Fianarantsoa is worth a stop over any time. But very exhausting.

La Buse.

[SouthEaster]

Just wondering if anyone has recently tried the Cotisse trip to Tulear. I have done the road once so know what to expect. But they do not give even a ballpark number for the length of the trip in hours. Anybody got an idea?

[MxTH9]

Hi,

Every hotel in nosy be ambatoloaka have security 24 h24?

I would like pick 2 or 3 girl. It is possible? Or some hotel say no?

Do the girls between them accept that we take several girls?

What hotel you recommend for this?

Thank you.

[Neddy69]

Just thought I'd highlight this, because on your recommendation I'm now reading this book.

I would like to know, how much of this still pertains to the Madagascar of the 21st century? The book was written in the 1930's.

Surely nature is the same, and so I would suspect is the relationship the Malagasy peoples have to it. But what else?

Do the ethnic divisions within the Malagasy remain un-blurred after 100 years?

Are the superstitions still as strong as they ever were, even among those who would live in the cities?

I would assume that, at least, the more anachronistic village-dwellers are a bit less effusive in the welcome they give to a (non-French) white person who comes to visit them? No wife-offering, etc?

Nothing has changed in La Brousse. For the highly sophisticated educated Merina and Betsileo some coastal tribes are still savages. I. e. Dahalo. Bandits. The available girls in the village will make it known if you can take them. Nobody sleeps alone in Madagascar unless it's his free choice. Everybody takes a vady. Another excellent book about the malgache is even older. Most has not changed.

E. F. Knight. Madagascar in. War Time.

He's particularly scathing of the Merina Aristocracy.

La Buse.

[Zach Hammond]

If you want to know about Malagasy culture read Arkady Fiedler. The Madagascar I love.

Just thought I'd highlight this, because on your recommendation I'm now reading this book.

I would like to know, how much of this still pertains to the Madagascar of the 21st century? The book was written in the 1930's.

Surely nature is the same, and so I would suspect is the relationship the Malagasy peoples have to it. But what else?

Do the ethnic divisions within the Malagasy remain un-blurred after 100 years?

Are the superstitions still as strong as they ever were, even among those who would live in the cities?

I would assume that, at least, the more anachronistic village-dwellers are a bit less effusive in the welcome they give to a (non-French) white person who comes to visit them? No wife-offering, etc?

[Pokeris]

Before I left Madagascar I went to Toa for a few days, it's only a short fight from the capital Tana. I arrived late in the evening and it was raining heavily so when I got to my hotel I decided to stay in for the night.

The next day I went out for a walk in the afternoon to find an ATM and get a bite to eat. I found an ATM then ended up in a restaurant and had some lunch. As I left, I was approached by a bicycle rickshaw driver keen to offer a ride, and after telling him 'Je ne parle pas Francais' he switched to English. It was basic English but better than my French! He asked me if I was looking for a massage, I asked him where and how much, he told me 'not far' and said he wasn't sure about the prices. So, off we went. A short time later we arrived at a house that had a hand-written sign on the front gate, reading Wendys massage. We went in to the front yard to be greeted by a female who beckoned us inside the house. She brought out 4 girls, all plain looking and all on the wrong side of 30. I told her I was looking for someone aged about 18 or 19 but she shook her head, and we left.

Next time don't use middle man do everything yourself. The driver rip you off your short time sex cost you more than 100 k. Tamatave has plenty of beauties who comes your hotel room for 30-40 k short time or 50 k all night.

[Tinte]

Nice to read that someone is living with the feet down to earth approach too and not constant in a one eye fantasy movie or in a novel of the last century.

Keeps the good spirit in the community alive.

[Mdemde]

Before I left Madagascar I went to Toa for a few days, it's only a short fight from the capital Tana. I arrived late in the evening and it was raining heavily so when I got to my hotel I decided to stay in for the night.

The next day I went out for a walk in the afternoon to find an ATM and get a bite to eat. I found an ATM then ended up in a restaurant and had some lunch. As I left, I was approached by a bicycle rickshaw driver keen to offer a ride, and after telling him 'Je ne parle pas Francais' he switched to English. It was basic English but better than my French! He asked me if I was looking for a massage, I asked him where and how much, he told me 'not far' and said he wasn't sure about the prices. So, off we went. A short time later we arrived at a house that had a hand-written sign on the front gate, reading WENDYS MASSAGE. We went in to the front yard to be greeted by a female who beckoned us inside the house. She brought out 4 girls, all plain looking and all on the wrong side of 30. I told her I was looking for someone aged about 18 or 19 but she shook her head, and we left.

Outside, I asked the driver if he knew of another place with some younger girls. He made a few phone calls and then said "let's go, not far".

20 minutes later we arrived in the middle of some side street where there were two girls waiting. They were the 'girl-next-door' type and one of them was doable, but thought I could get better. So I turned them down. The driver made a few more calls, but by this time it was already getting dark and it was starting to rain. 10 minutes later the driver said he had two more girls, but said they couldn't meet me until the next morning at 9am, so I arranged with the driver to meet me at my hotel the next morning. He said he would come by tuk-tuk, and asked me for 10k as an advance. Yeah, right! I told him I would settle with him AFTER I met the girl, and he agreed. I got him to drop me off at a restaurant and we parted company.

That next morning I met the driver outside my hotel, there was no tuk-tuk, he had come in his rickshaw. I queried him on this but couldn't make out what he was saying. But a rickshaw is still better than walking, so off we went. "Not far, not far" he said. About 40 minutes later we arrived at a small budget hotel, and went in. A girl appeared. I asked him where the other girl was and got some BS about her being sick. The girl that was there was not bad looking, and I asked the driver how much but he replied "up to you" so I took the girl into one of the rooms. We finished with CIP, but she was not keen on any CIP pics.

After I was finished with the girl I gave her 40k, she thanked me and I left the room. I found the driver, and asked him how much. "Up to you" was the response so I gave him 40k. He asked for a bit more so I gave him an extra 10k, he then asked for an extra 15k for the room, which I gave him. I told him I would make my own way back, and asked one of the staff in the hotel to get me a tuk-tuk. The ride back was a lot more comfortable than the ride out!

[Neddy69]

I started writing this message several days ago after a particular exchange, but got side tracked, and now the recent discussion this past few days instigated by Dear DerTyperb made me come back to it. I don't contribute much anymore, but every once and a while I just marvel over much of the swill that is exchanged on this forum. So many experts that are quick to criticize others and tell the absolute truth about Madagascar and their people, as if they have god-given understanding and are prophets of the land.

I wonder if our pirate friend La Buse should instead go by Levasseur's other nickname "La Bouche". (ok, wait for it, wait for it, I know its coming, I'll just wait for it).

Anyway, yes some French is helpful. Malagasy even better. Kudos to you BrasilSoccer for learning Malagasy!! And cool that you have taken up residence! More French expats that live there for years or decades should do the same, it is only respectful. And yes, there are dialects throughout the island, but not so distinct that people cannot understand each other. I have close friends from Toliara, Nosy Be and Tana, and they all experience the same thing out of their dialect, laughs and inquisitive looks over words that are different, but of course all Malagasy understand each other. I personally started in Mada some 20 years ago, without a drop of French, and it still sucks because I don't spend enough time in franocphone countries to learn it properly. And I have picked up really only a few words in Malagasy in three different dialects. And in the end, it really doesn't matter. I learned the ropes and get along fine, and have had my share of excellent, good, fair and poor experiences with the girls of Mada.

And for me (yes I am an American) the bottom line is that Madagascar was a former french colony (thank you for emphasizing that Tinte). That is by far the most important determinant of how Malagasy view Vazaha. The animosity towards the french is still very strong and alive and pervasive. In general, the Malagasy hate the french. Hate. The. French. I truly believe if you are not french you have an advantage, and it really doesn't matter if you speak french or not. The only group that is more hated is the Zanatany. The descendants of the original french colonial families. And if anyone on the forum who consider themselves a "resident" are going to pontificate that this is bullshit, I question whether you have ever had a real genuine Gash friend. I mean a real friend, a Malagasy that will tell you what they are really thinking, or how they really feel.

Anyway, sorry to pontificate. Ha! Read the forum, go experience, enjoy your time with the beautiful young women of this extraordinary place. I can't wait for my next trip.

VL.

La bouche begs to disagree. If you want to deal with Malagasy authorities the working language and official language of most forms is you guessed it french. And if you are like me holder of a malagasy resident permit you know. So french does come in handy. Even if the Malagasy of course every now and then want to get rid of french as working language it's not going to work. After all the french embassy in Tana issues 20.000 Visa to Malgache every year. And as a frequent visitor to the Ministry of Interior I saw the long lines of Malagasy to apply for biometric passports. Of course there's Malagasy learning English as well as German. A minority.

To wait for what as you wrote? I contributed enough to this particular forum. And I'm tired to reiterate. I leave that to the newbies. The one eyed talking to the blind. I arrived in Madagascar I'm 2015 the first time with a few questions I asked back then. I remember very well the answers I received. LOL. I read the WHOLE FORUM. Your posts were one of the few people I liked to read because they're of substance. As for me. The mouth or La Buse is semi retiring from this and other subfora. As all is written for those who are able to read. Well. The lazy bums will find the Ethiopian flight to NosyBe. For I accept only people with credentials. If you have not suffered at least 12 hours in a Taxi or Camion Brousse and deliver a credible report you are a tourist. And tourists are fleeting passers by. I m a connoisseur.

Alas.

Here comes the end to my sermon.

La Buse / La Bouche.

Owner of a five year visa long sejour.

A genuine one.

[Vavy Lover]

I'm not calling myself a expert. Mada is a BB place, that's fact.

Well you may bee clever shag on Prep and get a nasty souvenir after you return home like the other expert. Some souvenirs can bee lifetime by the way, like genital herpes.

Thought I would comment on this other part of Tinte's message. I had commented on souvenirs back in December during another long discussion, and admin decided to move it to another forum. The post is here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...361&viewfull=1#post2768361.

Hoping that Admin will not move this again, here is the main text of it:

I have thought about posting about this several times, as there is a very casual approach to protection from many posting on this forum. It is true that HIV is relatively low in Madagascar, compared to many African mainland countries (although it is also true that there are not a lot of rigorous studies on it, but I think it is safe to assume it remains at a low level in the population, and I have read that it is similar to the infection rate in a US big city, like New York). However other STDs, both bacterial and viral are very common. Herpes, HPV (genital warts or champignon), gonorrhea, Trichomoniasis, Chancroid, these are just the list that I have either directly or indirectly come across in 20 years. I have had gonorrhea 3 times. The total list is a lot longer and includes syphilis and, yes, HIV, but I haven't come across anyone who contracted them. One study I read about estimated that 30% of girls in the nightclubs in Diego carried a STD that required treatment. That is 1 in 3. So if you spend a couple weeks and screw 10 girls bareback you are almost assured to contract something. I love bareback as much as anyone, and never ever, ever, put a condom on for a blowjob. But I really limit how may pussies I stick it in bareback. I basically make a guess on how active the girl is. If she is clearly a makorely (pute) from a bar, I always use a condom. If she is a sweetie I picked up on the beach, or some student looking for extra money or a copain, then I consider going without a condom. I had one of each last trip. The girl I met from Facebook, clearly advertising, that could deepthroat me repeatedly, gagging on it, and was willing to let me put it in her ass. Nope, not going near that pussy without a condom. The shy sweetie I met at Tatie Chris dancing with a group of her friends, that was clearly inexperienced, fumbled a bit with my cock as she sucked it. Oh my lord how wonderful that pussy felt without a condom. And of course, that is not foolproof and I have contracted my share of STDs that I have had to have treated. It comes with the territory, and if you are doing this, and not prepared to deal with an STD, then you are being a bit foolish, IMO. And using herbal ointments and bullshit hocus-pocus remedies is NOT dealing with it. You got to accept the risks if you want to have this kind of life, but you don't have to be stupid about it either. Also keep in mind that guys that fuck one girl after another bareback are putting the girls and other mongers at risk. I also make a habit of paying for STD tests and treatment for girls that I have long term connections with.

VL.

[Vavy Lover]

" They long after your seed. I know plenty of chicas getting pregnant and the vazaha is long gone. ".

If you about to produce offspring, bear in mind that according to one credible source of information, your child and his mother will likely not be supportet by her clan nor by a local new boyfriend. Some clans might bee more tolerant, but it is not the general rule, that's often resulting a life sentence for both of them the mother and your child.

During my visit I came across of one guy ho now gets his bills monthly.

Each his own.

This may be true in some areas for some of the tribes, but I have never heard this before. What I have heard from equally credible sources is that Malagasy girls, particularly non-urban and uneducated, actually seek to get pregnant at a young age out of wedlock to prove their fertility. Once they have a baby (which is then raised by the child's grandmother), they are more attractive to Malagasy men that want to marry and have a family. This may be more the case for having a first baby with Malagasy men then Vazaha, but I have had a girl I met and spent one night with in Ifaty plead with me to cum insider her and give her a baby. There was literally no chance for support, she wasnt my girlfriend and had no way to contact me in the future, so it really seemed she just wanted a baby. Other times it seems like a girl wants your baby because they think you will then support them and the baby.

One thing that I have also noticed, and agrees with Tinte's message here, is that once a girl is marked as a makoreli (literally, working girl in Malagasy), and frequents the bars and regularly fucks Vazaha for money, she is no long attractive to many or most Malagasy men, and becomes an outcast. They appear to get trapped in that life and have little recourse when they get older and unattractive to Vazaha. But even that is not universal, because I have had girls in Nosy Be that are a full on PSE makoreli, fucking vazaha in their 50's and 60's and making a lot of money, and still have their younger ripped Malagasy boyfriend that doesn't seem to mind (probably benefits from it). So it seems like there are a lot of variations depending on the region and subculture.

VL.

[Geo Explorer]

Well you may bee clever shag on Prep and get a nasty souvenir after you return home like the other expert. Some souvenirs can bee lifetime by the way, like genital herpes.

If you about to produce offspring, bear in mind that according to one credible source of information, your child and his mother will likely not be supportet by her clan nor by a local new boyfriend. Some clans might bee more tolerant, but it is not the general rule, that's often resulting a life sentence for both of them the mother and your child.

During my visit I came across of one guy ho now gets his bills monthly.

The most serious issue with genital herpes is the stigma it carries in the US. Thanks to the advancements in medicine, the risks we are taking are much lower than they have ever been.

"A life sentence for both" sounds very harsh. Do you mean it is much worse for single mothers in Mada than in, say, Europe or China? I'm interested in learning more.

I'm on some Telegram channel where there was a discussion of a guy who sends 50 euro to support his child in Mada. They said it was entirely voluntary and I believe that.

[MxTH9]

Hi,

Every hotel in nosy be ambatoloaka have security 24 h24?

I would like pick 2 or 3 girl. It is possible? Or some hotel say no?

What hotel you recommend for this?

Thank you.

[Vavy Lover]

I started writing this message several days ago after a particular exchange, but got side tracked, and now the recent discussion this past few days instigated by Dear DerTyperb made me come back to it. I don't contribute much anymore, but every once and a while I just marvel over much of the swill that is exchanged on this forum. So many experts that are quick to criticize others and tell the absolute truth about Madagascar and their people, as if they have god-given understanding and are prophets of the land.

I wonder if our pirate friend La Buse should instead go by Levasseur's other nickname "La Bouche". (ok, wait for it, wait for it, I know its coming, I'll just wait for it).

Anyway, yes some French is helpful. Malagasy even better. Kudos to you BrasilSoccer for learning Malagasy!! And cool that you have taken up residence! More French expats that live there for years or decades should do the same, it is only respectful. And yes, there are dialects throughout the island, but not so distinct that people cannot understand each other. I have close friends from Toliara, Nosy Be and Tana, and they all experience the same thing out of their dialect, laughs and inquisitive looks over words that are different, but of course all Malagasy understand each other. I personally started in Mada some 20 years ago, without a drop of French, and it still sucks because I don't spend enough time in franocphone countries to learn it properly. And I have picked up really only a few words in Malagasy in three different dialects. And in the end, it really doesn't matter. I learned the ropes and get along fine, and have had my share of excellent, good, fair and poor experiences with the girls of Mada.

And for me (yes I am an American) the bottom line is that Madagascar was a former french colony (thank you for emphasizing that Tinte). That is by far the most important determinant of how Malagasy view Vazaha. The animosity towards the french is still very strong and alive and pervasive. In general, the Malagasy hate the french. Hate. The. French. I truly believe if you are not french you have an advantage, and it really doesn't matter if you speak french or not. The only group that is more hated is the Zanatany. The descendants of the original french colonial families. And if anyone on the forum who consider themselves a "resident" are going to pontificate that this is bullshit, I question whether you have ever had a real genuine Gash friend. I mean a real friend, a Malagasy that will tell you what they are really thinking, or how they really feel.

Anyway, sorry to pontificate. Ha! Read the forum, go experience, enjoy your time with the beautiful young women of this extraordinary place. I can't wait for my next trip.

VL.