Madagascar

[SouthEaster]

I think what Amadeus means is: if you are paying Mada girls 30 dollars for an ST, stay away. I have to concur. Let's face it, the place is still a dump, but the girls are some of the cheapest and most accommodating on the planet. We all know that is not going to last forever but let's try to extend it shall we?

SE.

[Member #4563]

We are far from Pattaya ST at 25 Euros or 50 Euros LT, for edible girls!

You got it all wrong. The equivalent pattaya girl ask 100 Euros ST and 150 Euros LT. I am talking about 20 years old fresh no Kids! Normally a Gogo girl.

For 50 EURO ST you get the garbage, Single Mom with body drop to the room floor due too high mileage.

[Amadeuss]

I'm quite happy with this girls since 6 years and I was in Mada and think a nice, slimm Thailady is sometimes better than a small, little bit fat Mada-African. (not the Kenyan- they are nice!

Thats great that you prefer the Thai girls.

Therefore: please stay in Thailand and don't travel to Mada anymore. There are gentlemen who will take care of the girls there. Don't worry.

[TigeDeJade]

All comments are interesting, it is from them, each of us get his feeling.

I shall not compare to Kenya, I never went there. I confess to be afraid by what I read on safety in Mombasa, if you are not really acquainted on this country. It seems foreigners are sometimes killed with no reason?? The risk of terrorist attack from former soldiers of Shebab, radical Muslims, now back home south of Mombasa (previously in Somalia) with their weapons is also a risk according to serious reports. I may imagine Kenyan girls very good and hot. In fact I had a relationship with a Kenyan student in her 20's in Europe. And she was clearly very hot in bed. I have the image of an atmosphere of violence in relationships in Kenya, with police etc. Absolutely unknown in Mada: true or wrong?

For Fenerive est, of course, you have to take your time: not consider the beach as Pattaya Beach Road.

It is true that there is a college near the beach and all these girls are not for us.

But when you walk in the city, you find some lyce, a private university, a nurse school. And when you walk around, you find our edible targets. Never hesitate to ask for phone numbers, no hurry, so after collection of half a dozen of phone numbers, you decide for the most attractive, not to jump on the first average girl who will want to reiterate, even if you would like to diversify faster.

It is clear Hotel Belle Rose is too far from the center, accordingly, you are trapped there.

Yes motorbikes can be rented in Tamatave, but if you want luxury of Hotel Oasislodge, come with your GF. If not it is not a good place for mongering up and down the city.

In places like that, there is no difference between ST and LT: you stay with the girl as long as you want, just adjust according to her own schedule (is she a student? Is she going home by night at parents home. When it happens get one for the daytime another for the night?) you will not have to negotiate anything, just give a daily cadeau between the equivalent of 6 to 8 euros. And the girl will be very happy to reiterate next day! We are far from Pattaya ST at 25 Euros or 50 Euros LT, for edible girls! But what is indisputable, it lodging comfort in THL (hotels or apartments) which have no equivalent in Mada.

[XXL]

I'm quite happy with this girls since 6 years and I was in Mada and think a nice, slimm Thailady is sometimes better than a small, little bit fat Mada-African. (not the Kenyan- they are nice!

Yes but let's face it for the prices you mention you get a Beach Road shank.

[Beno69]

... For that price what you get in Pattaya is the bottom of the barrel. Girls no foreigner would want to fuck in Mada...

I'm quite happy with this girls since 6 years and I was in Mada and think a nice, slimm Thailady is sometimes better than a small, little bit fat Mada-African. (not the Kenyan- they are nice!

[XXL]

That's why I live in Pattaya - no long flight and no cost! - Mada- / Uganda-n / Kenyan- / Ruanda- etc. Girls 800-1000 THB ST 1500-2000 LT. - Thai Girls 500-700 THB ST. Food etc. - everything nice and affordible! Big nice Appartement instead of lousy, expensive Hotel!

Thai girls 500-700 THB ST? For that price what you get in Pattaya is the bottom of the barrel. Girls no foreigner would want to fuck in Mada.

[Amadeuss]

I wanted to explore this prefectoral city, capital city of cloves and pepper.

You reach it after 3 h30 of taxi-brousse by the bad tarred road north of Tamatave (100 km) supposedly retarred by the Chinese about 8 years ago (I believe they tarred more some officials wallets).

Usually travellers pass just the city, on the way to Soeniarina Ivongo to take the boat to Sainte Marie.

As I imagined it is an alternative to Antalaha, easily reached from Tamatave, without to pay expansive airfares to Sambava / Antalaha.

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Thank you for exploring the boonies. It sounds to be a place as I like it. I will put it on my schedule coming June.

You said, to have a Moto would be an advantage. Did anyone rent a moto in Tamatave?

[Member #4563]

That's why I live in Pattaya - no long flight and no cost! - Mada- / Uganda-n / Kenyan- / Ruanda- etc. Girls 800-1000 THB ST 1500-2000 LT. - Thai Girls 500-700 THB ST. Food etc. - everything nice and affordible! Big nice Appartement instead of lousy, expensive Hotel!

I also live in Thailand since 2018 and my plan is to visit Mombasa and Mada for 3 month per year. The rest I will stay in Thailand. The good thing in thailand that I have no commitment for my apartment so I pay monthly and can leave as I want.

In Mombasa my apartment cost 200 USD per month. In Mada I stay in cheap hotels.

Conclusion: I like many things in both Kenya and Mada so I will keep travelling for 3 month per year and the rest I will stay in Thailand. So for me its not Thailandi vs Africa its Thailand plus Africa.

Best time for Mombasa is Dec-Feb and Mada is October-November. Kenya airways one ticket two countries under 1000 USD from BKK.

[SouthEaster]

I went through Fenerive last year on my way to St Marie. I didn't see much but it seemed a bustling little place that would be worth a couple of days as a get away from Tamatave. On the other hand I am not sure it is worth the effort over that horrible road.

Beno69 I am not sure of your post. Are you saying the list of countries in Africa including Mada girls are 800 plus ST and 1500 plus LT? I cannot say for any of the others but I pay 300ST and 500 LT in Mada and some would probably say I am overpaying. Who on earth but a one week millionaire would pay that kind of money in Mada, or am I misunderstanding your post?

And with respect, 500-700 for Thai girls is mainly for guys that live there or don't mind bargaining for half an hour on Beach road. I bet one newbie who has just stepped off the plane in Bangkok hasn't gotten an equivalent price in 20 years! A guy who just stepped off the plane in Tana could find a girl for 300 in 20 minutes.

SE.

[Beno69]

Yes, its a very valid point. But despite higher costs of the flight to Mada, it is in my calculation still the best bang for money...

That's why I live in Pattaya - no long flight and no cost! - Mada- / Uganda-n / Kenyan- / Ruanda- etc. Girls 800-1000 THB ST 1500-2000 LT. - Thai Girls 500-700 THB ST. Food etc. - everything nice and affordible! Big nice Appartement instead of lousy, expensive Hotel!

[Member #4563]

I wanted to explore this prefectoral city, capital city of cloves and pepper..

I was here last year the main problem is that I saw no girls. I stayed in hotel "belle rose" 30 K per night. Hundreds of boats on the beach so its not a swimming beach is a fishing beach. Some girls on the beach below the age but that's the same situation as Anthala. No Adults.

[TigeDeJade]

I wanted to explore this prefectoral city, capital city of cloves and pepper.

You reach it after 3 h30 of taxi-brousse by the bad tarred road north of Tamatave (100 km) supposedly retarred by the Chinese about 8 years ago (I believe they tarred more some officials wallets).

Usually travellers pass just the city, on the way to Soeniarina Ivongo to take the boat to Sainte Marie.

As I imagined it is an alternative to Antalaha, easily reached from Tamatave, without to pay expansive airfares to Sambava / Antalaha.

After several days, I have not yet seen a single face of vazaha! However after 5 days I succeeded to see 3 or 4 vazahas faces.

In fact it is a charming garden city, as most houses are shallowed by splendid trees and vegetation.

And as I imagined, it is really at par with Antalaha, but with more vegetation.

A medium sized city on a nice peaceful little bay. With a 500 m beach alley, with its wall to sit, with a 500 m avenue de l'indpendance, leading to it, with tall palm trees as in Tamatave.

No tuk tuk pollution, only cyclo pousses. And on the main road dirty diesel smell of taxi-brousse and motorbikes.

Same ethny of girls (Betsimisaraka) that Antalaha or Tamatave.

Accordingly, they are very opened. Just with exchanges of smiles, you can pick up flowers to follow you at cheapest cost in a world where you are a king. On girls walking alone near the beach, in the market streets. Ratio of OK to give phone number then come to your bed will be 3 on 4 met.

You can walk on the beach, (and maybe swim as it looks a very quiet bay. But as Malagasy usually do not know swimming, nobody is in the sea) but a better place for beach and swim is the area called *LA PISCINE (about 2 km from the center, 1000 AR by pousse) in fact a natural sea area, where the Malagasy, on Sunday or Saturday come to enjoy the water. As most of them do not know swimming, so it is not deep. But if you are a standard swimmer, you swim just beyond or nearby, in a nice scenery of small island in front. And on this beach, which is the local *resort* you have a dozen of gargotes to drink and eat fresh grilled fishes or chicken. And enjoy. With or without your girlie.

Unfortunately, there is no hotel or restaurant in front of the beach as in SAMBAVA. The best accommodation (100 m from the beach) and very close of city center are Hotel DANIAL (with good food) and Hotel LE NOYAU (good Chinese food) . All other premises are too far from action. Room rates 50 000 AR or below (without TV). For backpackers, and no witnesses, Bungalows LE TIPIAH 20 m from the beach at 20 000 AR. For those who already have a beloved regular and want to enjoy luxury, there is, far from the center, but uphill over «*la piscine*» a superb hotel restaurant OASISLODGE with stunning view over the bay, private pool, bungalows with aircond at 150 000 AR (40 E!. Less than any one star European hotel! The place is perfect if you have a motorbike. But consider it secluded if you have no transport.

Personally, I stayed in Hotel Danial. I preferred the room on back side building (with room WiFi as front building) for two reasons: the taxi-brousse station is too close of front building (so noisy early morning) and you have a private passage to join the back building without passing the reception area. Simple premises, but correct for quality / price. Moreover restaurant food is 30% cheaper than in Tamatave.

[JacobBrasil]

Pandora is close.

[Manfield04]

The day when I went to leave Olivia on Ivoloina Boulevard for her to catch a tuk tuk was a Friday. Pandora Station nightclub was a few metres away. However, it was raining heavily and pitch dark on the road. Yet near Pandora Station nightclub I did see a couple to tuk tuk and few guys and girls. I could not make out whether it was open or not. Pandora or any night club was last in my list, so I was not interested to know more about it.

Manfield, Glad to see you enjoyed yourself. It sounds like you didn't need or bother with the clubs / discos which I often find myself but I do have one question that others may find useful. When I was there in October I was told by a girl that Pandora was no longer open. I don't know if you went but can you confirm this? Thanks. SE.