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04-25-13 20:29 #1156
Posts: 8Something went wrong. Try again. Juliette from Morondova.
Here comes? The pictures
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04-25-13 12:40 #1155
Posts: 8More girls I met in Mada
Hi here are some more girls. From Manakara
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04-25-13 12:29 #1154
Posts: 8Some nice girls I met last time in Mada
Hi,
Tomorrow I return to Mada. Arriving late Friday evening. Stay the first nights at Glacier. Then continue to Toamasina. Not decided yet how long to stay there. Anyone of you staying in Madagascar now. Could be nice to meet over a beer and have some talk. Here are some pictures from last trip (2008). More vill come. This is Juliette, a nice 19 year old from Morondova. She was study to nurse.
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04-15-13 14:15 #1153
Posts: 96Originally Posted by Biffa [View Original Post]
Again, I think I would recommend spending less time in Tana (2 nights max) , and doing Toliara / Ifaty (3/3nights) over Nosy Be. BTW, flights to both Toliara and Nosy Be are very reliable, may be delayed a few hours but typically you will not find the nightmare cancellations on those routes.
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04-14-13 11:03 #1152
Posts: 272Some french
Originally Posted by Vavy Lover [View Original Post]
And I'm africa savvy which helps. (ie I don't expect ANYTHING to work or be on time or to be as advertised.)
As I've strictly limited time I need to hit the hot spots and quickly so flying is it. 3-4 days in the capital and 4-5 days in nosy be seems about right.
This seems a similar vibe to mtwapa in kenya, but perhaps less commercialised, and less organised (and significantly cheaper) , I'll find out in a few weeks\months
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04-11-13 19:07 #1151
Posts: 96Originally Posted by Biffa [View Original Post]
You received some good advice from Botaki, and I thought I would give you another perspective. Morondava is a fun place, and probably safer then some other spots, as it sees less tourism. But I also found that the action is less, with not as many girls. Particularly if you are going for the first time to Madagascar, and are savvy in Africa, I would recommend:
Fly to Toliara from Tana (as said by Botaki, about 170Euro per leg on Air Mad). Stay on the main waterfront strip at the Plaza Sud (AR25,000) or more upscale at the Paletuvier (about AR70, 000) about 400m up the road to the north. Avoid places to the south of Plaza Sud, where the street is dark at night and danger lurks. The strip from south to north from Plaza Sud to Paletuvier to the disco Za-Za Club is fairly well lit and well trafficed. During the afternoon and evenings you can find action at the BoBeach (and good food at AR10, 000-20, 000 / meal, as well as drinking partners) , right next to Plaza Sud. At night there are two discos, one next to Paletuvier (forget the name) and Za-Za Club, about another 3-400m north from Paletuvier. As it says on the sign, Za-Za is Paradise. I have found no where else the collection of beauty that is regularly there, particularly thur-sun. And they tend to be wonderful and very adventurous. Gets going late, after 11pm or midnight. I walk there as long as there are still people on the rode, and pousse-pousse or taxi back to the hotel with your catch.
Problem with Toliara, is no good beach. You have to go north to Ifaty, or boat south to Anakao (where there is no monger scene). If you want beaches, I recommend you spend a couple nights in Ifaty, where the girls are the most intense in the SW scene. Find a taxi in Toliara that will take you (ask at your hotel) , and only during daylight hours, preferably morning, about 1-2 hours on a very bumpy road. Many hotels on the beach, varying in price, no recommendations. I think weekends are best there for the disco, but action on the beach by day. Both of these places have a fair amount of Vazaha, more expats then tourists, but there will be fellow mongerers around.
Alternatively, you could go to Nosy Be, fly into Hellville, and taxi up to Ambatoloaka, many hotels right on the beach. This is the biggest scene on all of Madagascar, so many many girls, and a higher chance to get ripped off (either by a girl or petty crime). And many Vazaha, much more than in Toliara, so you will not be alone. I have had a few disappointing and even bad experiences here, but it is a wild place and I have had some remarkable experiences as well. On the girls, I find them generally not to be as beautiful as the SW girls in Toliara. I would say the top 5% in Nosy Be, are comparable to the top 25-50% in Toliara. And I find that results in the prettiest girls in Nosy Be being more spoiled and expecting more, and more like pros, whereas in Toliara the same or prettier tend to be less assuming and less demanding, and less professional in general.
Also, my French sucks, but a little goes a long way, and moreso if you learn a few Malagasy words.
Those are my 2 cents. Have fun.
VL
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04-11-13 09:06 #1150
Posts: 96Originally Posted by Biffa [View Original Post]
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03-26-13 01:30 #1149
Posts: 272Security concerns
Realistically how dangerous to a white middle aged euro monger is madagascar?
Relative to Kenya, Mombasa for example. Will I be the only euro guy in the capital? Or one of only a few? And how about nosy be. I've heard its a big french tourist hang-out, but realistically will there be a euro presence or will (like some places in ethiopia I've been to) I be the only guy with a white (pink in the sun?) skin?
I'm not talking about the Bush or rural areas where I just won't have time to visit, I'll be in the capital and maybe Nosy Be.
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03-25-13 11:37 #1148
Posts: 985Originally Posted by John Palmer [View Original Post]
I do read weekly L'express de Mada and other newspapers to catch up on whats happening on the political, economical and social scene. I do not notice any extreme changes. Mada is still considered more safe then most African countries. But perhaps unsafe for Mr and Mdm Miller, dressed up in their finest and having a walk from the Sakamanga after dinner to their hotel on Place the' Independence at 11pm. Also not cuddly-safe for expat guys running a business in Toliara and then stepping on some local influential toes. That will end up with bullets sprayed into their 4WD on the RN7 (as what happend a year ago). But it happens in other countries as well.
And yes, flights can get cancelled. It happened before. Its painful if there's only 1 flight a week. Air Mad is a shit airline with no competition.
John. I understand your concerns and appreciate warnings if founded. But still. Once the Mada-cancer is in you, you can't get rid of it. So, newcomers: beware!
Thanks for the offer: love to share a GHB avec Msieur Mécontent. PM you on time.
Salut!
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03-24-13 06:43 #1147
Posts: 822Originally Posted by Botaki6 [View Original Post]
The most safer places are in the area of the vanilla coast, mahajanga and tamateve when the more isolated area of vanilla coast is more safer.
Toliara, Diego, nosybay, Tana are nightmare especially for expats. I trust him while he looked so disappointed. It may be possible to travel but only with a low profile only at the areas that I mention but again take a few days spare for flight delay.
Botaki, I know you are a fan of Toliara but I strongly suggest to visit only the places I have mention. I have many reason to encourage visitors but this is first hand info from expat that actually lived there.
Personally, if I had the money and time I would replace my trip this week to Uganda with Mada's Vanilla coast and keep a few days spare for the returned flight delay. (I saw it myself delay for 24h)
If you do speak french PM me for his email, you can even have a drink with him in sambava while he is supper funny and a great monger.
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03-24-13 04:00 #1146
Posts: 985Originally Posted by John Palmer [View Original Post]
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03-23-13 17:20 #1145
Posts: 822Security
Talked to my friend that lives in Mada he said many vhazas got murdered while brutal crime is a routine. The country is in chaos and many expats left to Thailand.
Air mad flight can be delayed for days. He left nosy bay and live now in Sambava, his favorite place for mongering is maroantsetra but this guy is in deep panic.
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03-09-13 09:33 #1144
Posts: 6July 2013
Originally Posted by Biffa [View Original Post]
I'll be there as a first timer in July. If you end up flying in from Mauritius at the end of the month, I'll be back in Tana around 28th then moving up to Nosy Be until early August. My French is pretty awful too. Let me know if you're in the area around that time.
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03-08-13 06:53 #1143
Posts: 985Originally Posted by Biffa [View Original Post]
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03-07-13 16:29 #1142
Posts: 272Economical
Originally Posted by Botaki6 [View Original Post]