South Africa

[GoodEnough]

I have not been to Joburg for a couple of years, but the last time I was there I found a Thai massage parlor owned by the same folks who operate The Ranch. Both the Range and the Thai place were excellent for women, and three times, I took one of the Thai ladies for the entire night. The cost was about $100 but well worth it in terms of service and quality of the girls. For those who have never been to The Ranch, it's well worth the visit, assuming it's still in operation. It's an enormous place, with restaurants, billiard rooms, massage rooms. VIP rooms and a rainbow hue of women, including Thais, and white and black South Africans.

[Buzz00]

For those guys going to sunny SA - the east euro chicks as is said here, do not give great service.

Try the Afrikaans girls for a really good time and sometimes wild - Pretoria for one, Kempton Park, near airport, Benoni, outside lying suburbs close to JHB - girls in Sandton might be a little bit more pricier but are great.

One can get better service from private places more than the big clubs but a word of caution, Johannesburg is damn dangerous at all hours of the day, so watch your back.

In Johannesburg buy the Star and in Pretoria buy Die Beeld or one can access all the adds through the internet. http://www.star.co.za - go to classified adds and under social/adult one can find everything that one is looking for.

Out of SA I prefer east euro women if they are available but taking YMMV into account you won't go wrong with a white South African girl, Afrikaans or English speaking. Afrikaans girls from my experience are wild and sexy,
more so as having been brought up very conservatively.
You might even get lucky at the clubs and bars of Pretoria as Afrikaans girls like to drink, so freebies are not impossible.

If you happen to get to Cape Town do try the Cape Lobster , some of best that you will eat anywhere in the world apart perhaps from Maine, Usa.

Cheers,

Buzz

[Corrie43]

Hi,

That was not all. Chanell then decided to join in. She likes to play pool. Try to beat her at pool!

She has length and an incredible body. She works full time at the House of Dreams in Klerksdorp.

Enjoy

[Corrie43]

Hi all,

After Nikky, Jessica got jealous and also wanted to have her photo taken. She travels between Pretoria and Klerksdorp, so your chances of getting her at any time is 50/50.

She decided to pose on the bar table. I told her about the Belguel pose of Morocco, which intrigued her!

Enjoy

[Corrie43]

Hi all,

I got lucky with my camera. I was allowed to take photographs in the House of Dreams in Klerksdorp - see the previous report on the road from Johannesburg to Cape Town via Klerksdorp. This is a strip club with lots of services. Very popular in the evenings. Upstrairs is a place called Playgirls with many bedrooms. You may negotiate with some of the girls from House of Dreams to go upstairs. Others will only strip for you, but they are very nice.

Attached is a photo of Nikky. She showed me one of her favourite poses. Talk to her.

Enjoy,

Corrie

[Corrie43]

Travelling from Johannesburg to Cape Town by car:

Dear members,

Those of you who visit South Africa may want to take the car from Johannesburg Airport to Cape Town (with its fantastic wine routes and scenery). This is a safe route by car, not going through Johannesburg city. To get there you will take the "R24 Johannesburg" upon exit from the car rental area at the airport. You will bypass Kemton Park en route to Cape Town.

(note: There are a couple of stunning ladies in Kempton Park, where you may get a shower after the long flight. I am stilll negotiating to cover them in another WSG report.)

On the R24 you will take the "N12 Kimberley" highway and stay on the N12. This takes you through the city of Potchefstroom (do not try anything in Potchefstroom - extremely conservative on sexual matters! ) and then Klerksdorp. If you have not exhausted yourselves in Kempton Park on the ladies, you can stop in Klerksdorp for some fun!

When taking the turn to the left into Klerksdorp downtown area, you will find a street called Neser Street in the downtown area. The attached photograph shows you a club called "House of Dreams" in Neser Street (with cell number) where you pay R40 entrance and negotiate a girl for a strip show. A few drinks are included. If you are not satisfied then turn to the left (on the picture) in Neser Street until you get to the Adult Video shop. There you will find a few ladies in attendance. Price R250 per half hour in a nice nearby (safe) apartment. A few girls, with new ones coming and going.

If you are not satisfied with what you have seen, buy the newspaper "DIE BEELD" at a cafe (at the corner) and go the the small advertisements called "SNUFFELGIDS". This is in Afrikaans, but you do not need understand Afrikaans. Go to "Volwasse Vermaak" and then you will see a long listing of several ladies starting with "Klerksdorp". You will see "blonde" or "longlegs" or "black" or "Indian". All of them speak English as well. They will direct you to their private accomodation, or, you can call them to your hotel room. At least three pairs offer doubles with prices ranging from R300 to R400 for a double. Lowest is R200 for half hour.

After you have exhausted yourself, in Klerksdorp, take the N12 (Wolmamaransstad, Kimberley, Cape Town direction) and do some sightseeing in Kimberley. By the way, do you know that Kimberley was the first city in the world to get street lights? Even before New York! They shut their system down for a week and then New York came online. This is why New York claims to be th first! The boom came from the wealth of Kimberley diamonds of the 1870's, where Cecil John Rhodes got his riches. There you will find one of the largest manmade holes in the world (the "Kimberley Hole" for diamonds).

There are nice places in the Karoo to stay over, until you get to Cape Town. Be sure to get the Afrikaans and English newspapers for classified ads.

Good luck and always play safe. All the girls in Klerksdorp (except for one pro) play it safe. An unsafe pro is a real turnoff!

Corrie

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[Niki Mouse]

Here is some experience:

Papillon is a club not far from Monte Casino, very upmarket and safe location, large villa with a main area with 2 levels, bar, entrance fee is 250R (fee covers all drinks and a food menu) 1hrNN a with girl cost 650 Rand. went there at around 11pm (the place close at 1am) there 5-6 girls working with 6-7 guys waiting. Girl range from 6 to 9 most of them white, the place is owned by Bulgarians therefore there are number of eastern european girls (a blonde Diana with silicon breasts is particularly good) spotted 2 Thai girls as well. overall the place is very good but sometimes when there are too many guys it could be annoying to wait, although the main (waiting area) is quite comfortable with sofas, tvs, bar and music. I would definetely recommend

Camelot

100R entrance, 450 half an hour, 650 1 hr definetely not as good as Papillon lower quality girls (15-20 working on Thur night).

After those 2 i tried "the lounge" (strip bar) 200R entrance, no sex no touching and "Teasers" 50R entrance 150 for a lap dance, just in case if you are into strip joints

Niki

[Blake]

In Johannesburg, I visited 37 Guest Lodge between Hyde Park and Sandton.

The place is in a big house on William Nicol Drive. There is a big private parking area. The parking was full of high-end cars such as BMW. Mercedes and Volvo

I paid ZAR100 to access the lounges, the (untempting) hot buffet, the pool and the strip shows. There were around 30-40 girls there. There were blacks, whites, Asians, Orientals, Latins and Eastern Europeans. Spoiled for choice. There was maybe 12 guys there.

I ordered a Vodka Tonic at ZAR15.00 and then watched the show. I tried to avoid eye contact at the beginning which is hard.

I then settled my choice on a white girl called Kiki. She is half Afrikaan and half Greek Cypriot. She had the curly hair and tanned Greek Godess look.

We watched some of the show together. She made me sit in the front with her. During the show the stripper came and did a lesbian flirting act with her with Kiki ending up sucking the striper's tits.

After the show we proceeded to a room via the cashier.
ZAR450.00 for 30 minutes
ZAR650.00 for 1 hour
ZAR750.00 for the Jacuzi and Sauna room.

Went for the 1 hour option and never regreted it. Great attentive service.

Apart that the ladies were dressed, this may have well been a small German FKK club.

I was driving and the place was very easy to find. I would believe that it would cost around ZAR50.00 for a taxi from Sandton.

Tip: Ask for room 1 or 5 as they are the best rooms and the only ones with shower. You also may end up with a pet. I am still trying to figure out whether it was a rat or a mouse.

Website: http://www.sextrader.co.za/ba/37guestlodge/home.htm

[IndoHound]

Gday all,

Thanks very much for your info Boomshaka re: ongoing operations at Summit Club. Will be in RSA again within 10 days tops and would welcome mongering partners to split driving costs and companionship whilest visiting several brothels.

Would like to go to some of the places that advertize in the daily press, in the Johannesburg International Airport area as wll as in the Sandton/Rivonia or Fourways area.

Now in Belgrade (Serbia) what a bore! Masses of beautiful pussy around but mostly stuck-up and noting buyable to be found. Ah Africa!

[Boomshaka]

Safe Punter,

I have to say I agree with you, the Europeans are looking for businessmen and foreigners and raise their prices for that reason.

I prefer (Black) African women because they seem like they're not as bitter about the work than the Europeans. I seem to get more of a GFE with African women. I have been with a couple White South African women who provided very good service, but the few Europeans I have seen were a bit mechanical.

I should qualify this by saying I'm a Black American. I think I get better service from African (South Africa, Kenya, Swazi, etc.) women for that reason, but I may be wrong. The White South African women I was with were pretty good too, but others I've spoken to have seemed a little hesitant to deal with me. Sometimes they loosen up when they learn I'm a foreigner, but I guess old habits die hard...

(After 150 years, those "habits" still have not died here in the U.S., so don't think I'm trying to pick on White South Africans, I'm just making an observation)

I'll be back in SA in a few months and I'll put my theory to the test.

Boom

[Safe Punter]

Another trip to Joburg recently, and again a bit of a let-down. The one evening I chose to go to Papillion, the place had a private funtion going on, so after a wasted journey in a taxi, we spent further time looking up and down William Nicole drive trying to find club 32 (i think), but couldn't find it. The driver phoned around for some other places, but I considered it to be too pot-luck, not having heard of the places he mentioned. I also considered that this wasn't Eastern Europe, and I should be a little careful.

Found Sarah on Sex Trader (Blonde, big tits) her photo has her lying on the floor, she was OK. Russian. Wouldn't go back though, she there was an air of fakery about it all.

Ordered in, once again, another Russian. Through sex trader, but did not release it was a agency. OK, but wouldn't recommend. I found in general that the place is full of Russians, Bulgarians and Romanians. Clearly, all the nice ones make a decent living back in Europe, and SA is getting the mingers. Shame really, next time I will make it my point only to do SA women.

[Boomshaka]

Indo,

One last thing...

Any tips on Durban? I always have a ***** of a time finding anything other than nasty SGs there.

Boom

[Boomshaka]

Indo,

As far as I know the Summit Club is still open --it was in October '03. They will not respond to your e-mail and I don't think they update their website more than 3 times a year. You should call to be sure.

As far as girls, check one of my previous posts. You should not pay more than R250 for an hour. Selection within the club is a crap-shoot--I've seen gorgeous Thai, Coloured, and Black girls--but then again I've also seen some real bow-wows. Best advice is avoid women in jeans as they tend to hide fat.

As far as I know, you cannot bring an outside escort back to their hotel. I believe the hotel is rented strictly to the bar girls, but you should check and let us know.

Although they are R100 - R200 more, I would still recommend at least one escort while you're there. Check out any of the South African escort sites (do a simple web search, there are about 4 or 5) and you'll see exactly what you're getting...and believe me, there are some real lookers.

Finally, if you haven't been to Hillbrow before (where the Summit Club is located), I would recommend taking a cab. This is one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in all of South Africa and car jackings are not uncommon. If you do drive, follow these three tips:

1) STUDY A MAP--There are a number of one-way streets in this area and lighting and street signs are poor, so plan your enter and exit strategy before you go.

2) PARK IN THE CLUB LOT--It's right across the street and an attendant will escort you across the street (keep R5 handy for him)

3) KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN--Don't pull too close to the car in front you at a robot (traffic light) and watch who's around you. If you have to make a quick getaway, it's much easier to explain to the police than to the guy(s) coming after you.

That said, go and have fun! I love that place because it's soooo African. Also, don't forget to treat the girl right, you might just get a freebie!

Boom

[IndoHound]

Does anybody know if the Summit Club in Johannesburg is still operating? I sent them an EMail a couple of weeks ago but no reply. Could call them I suppose - phone charges are not expensive. Would like to know if any other punters used their rooms to take local escorts. Are there girls on the premises? The Summit Club doesn't advertise what services they provide? Have been to South Africa twice over last 1 1/2 years. I mainly concentrate on Blacks because they tend to more beautiful, younger, friendlier and cheaper than what I can gather when I look at the adverts. I think 300+ years of repressive, Calvinist upbringing have made the whites into the aggressive, insecure assholes that quite a few have become...and this attitude often makes it way into both sexes...anyway I refuse to pay more than R450-500 for an hour. This has paid for 18-20 hardbody schwarzes in the past so why should I go for a 28+ overweight white heifer with bad teeth, saying "Yah" in one of those heavy Boer accents? Of course girls are much cheaper (or free) in neighbouring Mozambqiue. Gorgeous street girls are available in Nelspruit for R100-150 (hour approx) or R300 all night. There are Casinos, reasonable restaurants and hotels + taxis + wildlife from nearby Krueger National Park. Have yet to try Indian "curry" or Malay "Laksa" in South Afirca...did however have a CHinese girl doing bareback everything in Pretoria but that is another story.

Questions? Please ask me privately

[Safe Punter]

Here is some of my recent exploits. I did not get up to much, since I was too busy. In Joburg I went back to Papillon, although the quality was not as good as I recalled. I met the same girl I had last time, and it was good fun. She is about to move out of the business altogether unfortunately.

There were a few girls in the hotel, mostly black. A few mingers, and some nice ones.

In Cape Town it was much worse. I went to Castle 101 in Castle street. The girls were OK (it was the afternoon), but I took a Eastern European (Bulgarian) girl to the room and it was a shit experience. Cost a fortune at 700R. She wasn't interested at all. Back downstairs was the most worrying experience, since I asked them to call me a cab, and they said they couldn't, or wouldn't. I got hold of a cab number, and called, but they were too busy to pick me up. I walked back to the hotel. It was late afternoon, but had it been dark, I could have found myself in trouble quite quickly. Hence, don't go to that club. if you do, make sure you have a reliable cab driver, or you could be stuffed late at night.

I didn't try anywhere else. But I would try to look outside of the CBD next time.