South Africa

[Iron Duke]

Boomshaka,

Most of the brothels try to stop the punters from bumping into each other so the chances are you won't meet any of them if you don't want to.

There's still some racial prejudice here but most people are very broad minded so you shouldn't have any problems. Some of the white girls have a thing about going with black guys but most don't. So you needn't worry.

There are a few places in the Hillbrow/ Berea are that are similar to the Summit but most are not nearly as nice. You could try the Dorchester Hotel in Twist street which is about the closest thing to it.

There used to be a club in Sandton, called the Calabash, which was similar but it closed a few months ago. It's apparently relocated to Randburg which is a bit off the beaten track for tourists and I've not been to the new venue.

Yeah, the Ranch was very popular. Pity the guy who ran it upset the local cops so they made an example of him. There weren't too many places like that but there is a place called Little Holland which tries to be a cheaper equivalent. Sometimes you get quite nice girls there. Usually foreigners - especially from eastern Europe. And some real good looking ones.

Happy hunting!

Iron Duke

[Boomshaka]

Duke,

Thanks for the update. It's always good to get first-hand info from a local. I go once a year for about a month at a time and I wish I had your advice before. It would have saved me a lot of time.

One question: I'm a Black American and I've travelled all over South Africa with nothing but positive experiences with everybody I've met (white, black, colored, indian....whatever!). I did notice in the Eastern Cape that a few of the white patrons of a club (brothel) were looking at me funny, but nothing overt (I've had much worse treatment here in the USA).

My question to you, then, is: How do white patrons of the brothels feel about their black counterparts? I usually select african girls, but do you think there would be any fuss about picking a white girl? What's your opinion?

Now i'm not asking for a social thesis, and I'm not trying to portray you as a racist or any of that crap. I just would like to hear the opinion of a local. Thanks in advance.

Boomshaka

PS--Our civil war ended 140 years ago, and we're still struggling with race relations, so I know it's gonna take some time.

ONE MORE THING: Do you know of any other clubs like the Summit Club in JoBerg? I miss the Ranch in Rivonia....

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[Vatel69]

I will be staying at the Holiday inn at the airport due to a lay over for 1 night in 2 weeks and I would like some help with what are my options in that area. Any actions in the cassino close to it?

I will put some info in the Sydney, Australia page.

[Iron Duke]

Hi Guys

As a resident of Johannesburg I can confirm that South Africa is a haven for any man seeking good cheap sex. Every large city (Johannesburg, Durban, Cape Town, Port Elizabeth, Pretoria, etc) has any number of young (and not so young!) girls willing to satisfy your every need for (usually) a very reasonable fee.

There are very few regular massage parlours left in South Africa. One is Massage City (Johannesburg) that offers many beautiful, mainly East European girls, but I haven't been there for some years. They tend to be quite expensive! Nearly all working girls operate from private homes in the suburbs. Some houses are set up as brothels with a choice of several girls. Many girls operate either alone or with a friend or two from their own places.

In Johannesburg there are literally hundreds of places advertised in the daily newspapers. The best is the Johannesburg "Star" newspaper. Look in the Adult Only section of the Classified supplement under the "Entertainment " column. Most of the girls advertise here. The "Massage Services" column has very few adverts for girls. Most of the adverts under Massage are for guys but a few girls do advertise there as well. All the adverts in the current edition of the Star can also be viewed online at www.iol.co.ca. Go to the "Classifieds" link and then click on the "Social/Adult" link. Then choose the publication you want, eg The Star. When you click on "Search" it takes you to the pages where every advert for that day is reproduced. Each ad had an "add" box to put the add in the "trolley". This is a very useful feature because after searching through all the adds you can click on the "show trolley" box and have a nice summary of all the ads that appeal to you. This list can then be printed out. Another nice feature of this site is that you can choose other publications: The Cape Argus (Cape Town), Pretoria News (Pretoria),and the Tribune (Durban).

The Citizen newspaper also has many ads for prostitutes, although not nearly as many as the Star. The ads in the Citizen tend to be much more explicit and the girls there are generally cheaper on average, but not always. Many of the brothels advertise in both the Star and the Citizen.

There are two web sites that are particularly good for finding girls, both of which have photos of the girls so you can see what you are getting before you go in. wwwescortsouthafrica.com has six photos of each girl, her telephone number and a brief description of the services offered. Nearly all offer "full house" which is the South African euphemism for full sex. "Greek" means they offer anal sex. A nice feature of the site is that members can post their personal experiences so you can see which girls are the most popular. The other site is www.sextrader.co.za.

Prices range from R300 at the low end to R750 or higher at the top. Girls that include the word "upmarket" in their ads are invariably more expensive. Brothels that have several girls working in them generally charge R400 to R500 for "everything" which usually includes a very brief and not usually very good massage, followed by a blow job (usually with condom) and full sex (always with a condom). A few will do it without when you get to know them but, with the high AIDS risk in South Africa, I've never been inclined to try it without. Most of the girls use "government" condoms which are provided to them free by the clinics. They are generally good enough but I usually prefer to use my own high quality condoms.

Black girls are generally cheaper than white girls. There are some very nice black girls who charge only R300 or R350 but many of them offer only a very quick and unsatisfying experience for this price. The better looking black girls generally charge between R400 and R500. White girls invariably charge a minimum of R400. However, the better looking ones generally charge R500 to R600 or more.

Prices of girls who advertise on the Internet (see pages referred to above) generally charge more than the girls who advertise in the newspaper. In fact, the same girl may well have differential pricing depending on whether you say you are responding to her newspaper ad or saw her on the Internet. A girl who charges R450 to clients who contact her via the Internet will often only charge R350 if you phone on her newspaper ad. They often use different names in the two media so they can distinguish which ad you are responding to but you can generally see they are the same girl because they have the same phone number. So, a good tactic is to make a note of the phone numbers of the girls that appeal to you from their Internet details and then look for their phone numbers in the www.iol.co.za site. This is very easy because there is an excellent search facility on that site. Just enter the number, or even the the last four digits,in the search box and you will see if she's advertised in the paper. Phone on that number and save yourself R100!

All the price quoted are for "short time". Many of the girls advertise that they will spend the whole night but I've had very limited experience of these. Most are quite expensive - upwards of R1000 per night. For an all night girl you can also pick one up in one of the "clubs" such as the Summit in Hillbrow but I don't go there much because it's in a very unsafe part of Johannesburg (although they do have secure parking and a guard to escort you from the car park into the club). Girls at the Summit are generally cheaper (R200 to R250 short time) and will go with you for the whole night for R600 to R700. They will ask for more but are always willing to negotiate.

Some of the clubs also advertise in the "Entertainment" column of the Star and you can find all night girls there as well.

There is virtually no public transport available to tourists in South Africa that can be used for pursuing pleasures of the flesh. So a hire car is almost essential to travel to the venue of your choice. Taxis are available if you have only limited time available but, for a couple of days or more, a hire car is a much better bet. Car hire is relatively cheap in South Africa.

So, enjoy your trip to South Africa. A little patience in doing your research will reward you with many cheap and satisfying sexual experiences with some of the nicest girls in the world!

[Sex_God]

Hey Boomshaka,

Thanks for your tips. I will follow your advice. A couple of thoughts:

I never do street walkers anywhere. I dont mean to be rude, but I've never found them to be attractive. Also in the US street walkers are sometimes decoy cops. Plus in S Africa where AIDS is high I wouldnt even go near them.

Now as far as escort services, the one I found out frmo this forum is: http://www.sextrader.co.za; That site made me so horny that I decide to consider S Africa as one of my destinations. I live in US and I've never been to southern Africa.

Also: For a "High End Escort" what would it cost to get a girl in my room overnight? If I am going to go all the way there any ways, I might as well go for a high end S Afrikaaner babe. I love their accent and its s thrill for me to get the cream of the crop for an overnighter session.

Any ways, this board is too slow. Not too many hobbysists in S africa, I suppose! Please gentlemen, write more reports, give us first hand advice and tips. We must continue this "tradition" of Pay-for-Play (P4P) and make this world a better place to live in.

Have fun and be safe. :-)

Sex_God

[Boomshaka]

sex_god

you will south africa a wonderul haven for adult fun!

they've got everything you're looking for for cheap prices.

options:

street walkers--never wasted my time with them. AIDS is so rampant and many of them look so nasty that i never went there.

escorts--typically MUCH better looking than street walkers, and you can find just about any fetish. most low end escorts will go for about R250/hr ($30 US) while the high end ones are up to R600/hr ($85 US). to find them, go to iol.co.za and search their classified ads (http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=33&click_id=2686) under social/adult. there are hundreds of ads of escorts at all price ranges. you can also check out www.escortsouthafrica.com if you want photos and bios (these girls seem to be a bit more pricey, however)

clubs--there are dozens of brothels throughout the country that operate as bars/nightclubs with female escorts available. the advantage to these is that you can shop around. the disadvantage is that selection in each club may be limited. most are listed in the newspaper. one of my favorites is the summit club in hillbrow (jo'berg), where you pay a R50 cover and anywhere from R150-R250 for the girls. there are some real lookers, but there are also some real beasts there too.

which brings me to my last point: crime. south africa is not safe. that is to say, you can't just go anywhere anytime of the day. walking in jo'berg, capetown, or durban is a bad idea. i would do it for short distances (less than 1 km) during the daytime, but never at night. you're better off taking a cab or driving yourself.

that said, i've been to the country 4 times in the last 5 years, and know people who have been there more than that. i've been through bad areas (unfortunately, the summit club is in one of the worst areas of jo'berg) at night by myself in a car. we've never had any incident with crime in all those visits. the bottom line is: don't take any unecessary risks, stay in public areas and you should have a great time.

[Sex_God]

Hey doods,

Whassup! I would like to visit S Africa for vacation. I might make a trip to Zimbabwe as well.

OK, to pursue our hobby in S Africa, which city has the best action available? Also, what are the rates per hour to do screwing around in SA? Please specify in either SA Rands or US$.

Tell me what cities I should visit: Like J'Bug, Pretoria, Cape Town etc? Is it safe to walk around streets at night? Or must I always be in a cab?

What national parks do you recommend for visiting? Hows the weather in S Africa now?

Thanks for your help.

Sex_God

[Dickperv]

<<snipped>> I plan on trying out at least one of them tonight. [/i]

Ok, Keith, I'll be back there in a few days - how's it going

Dickperv

[Keith]

Guys, I am really surprised by the lack of news here. The hunting in Johannesburg is great, and among the cheapest anywhere. All the nice hotels are in a suburb called Sandton, and I have no problems at all with the women coming up to my room. I recommend www.sextrader.co.za for a fine selection. After doing a lot of research, it is clear that European (white) women charge much more than the blacks/Malay/Asians. Immediately upon arrival I called up Eva who charges 450 Rand ($60) per hour. She was tall, slim, nice breasts, and very cooperative: kissing, touching, mutual oral, etc. The combination of going down on her and squeezing her breasts seemed to legitimately drive her wild. Her number is 072-597-7634. Another good source is the classifieds of the daily paper, which has hundreds of adds. I plan on trying out at least one of them tonight.

[LukeSkyWanker]

hello all just come back from 4 weeks in cape town a few snips to report, paid a visit to terris in wynberg very friendly 5 girls working showers etc 200 rand for 1 hour.
body heat in centre of town r35 entrance fee drinks reasonable girls r400 for 1 hour varied selection.
bonnies on durban road belville just off n1 heading east very friendly place drinks cheap you can go just for a drink and if you dont fancy anything no problem girls not stunners but very willing r350 for 1 hour [CodeWord101] extra r100 i remember this because the girl wanted me to try it but it is not my thing.
just down the road from bonnies to t junction turn left is another place not sure of name but it is on main road 188 i think on left go upstairs 200 for 1 hour very enthuiastic girl malay i think.
every night many girls on the street in greenpoint/seapoint area on the main road but some very low level and possibly dangerous to a novice.
paid a visit to cape ranch exit 33 north bound off n1 up ramp turn left then first right you can see it from the top of the exit ramp. very plush r750 entrance fee includes free drinks and food and women of your choice for 1 hour you can stay all night extra cost. you have to call first then you are given an entry number to get through electric gates etc you can drink as much as you like but you have to choose a women before 11:00pm high standard and good value but i think better to go with a friend.
check out cape argus adverts all are listed.

[JohnnyBlazze]

All,

I worked in Jo'burg for about 7 months in 2001. the 2nd nite I was there, I went to a cub called Calabash International. It was located in Sandton. Apparently the club is a TiTi bar during the week, and isa club on Friday toi Sunday. I had no idea of this as I was there on a Friday. I started dancing with a Hot black girl about 5'1" and 95 pounds. Next think I know she takes of here clothes as we are dancing as well asmost of the girls in the club. Here I am dancing w/ this gorgeous chick and she has noly her panties on. Want a great intro to the night scene in Jo'burg. I frequented that club alot during the months I was there. You could take a girl home and have all kinds of fun w/ here all night for about 400R or 45USD. Now thats a bargain. Of course I usally spent about 100R total for drinks and stuff as well. The girls generally want to be your girlfriend when you are there. They will do anything and everything your girl will do BBBJ, and somtimes Anal as well. I have plenty of stories. If anyone is interested let me know. Also has anyone heard of Calabash. I heard that it has moved, does anyone know where it is now? I am planning on a return trip shortly.

[Dickperv]

Hey Scorpio,

Good to see you're still around and doing the 'mongering thing. Scene here in Aus (Perth) is fairly rife, but the SW's are pretty scaggy. And frankly, if you've any charm at all, you can probably have a real GFE. These chicks are pretty easygoing. Some will even buy the drinks.

Anyway since this isn't the Aus list, let me say that I will be back in the armpit of the 3rd world in May/June, so I'll be partaking in fine SA pussy (pundah to SAans) - blood pressure tablets willing. Don't laugh guys, old age'll happen to you too someday. :-(

Dickperv

[Scorpio]

Hi again Dickperv,

well it is almost 9 months after my last stay in Johannesburg, where I exclusively enjoyed escorts (both out/incall) (hopefully none of them has got a little scorpio-junior after these 9 months). I found the escort-scene to be a lot more convenient than hunting for streetwalkers. I do that sometimes here in Europe, because up here it's not really dangerous.
Been to Cuba last October, that was nice (many chicas), did it all for the nookie...

Hopefully you're gonna be successfull in Australia, I'll check for your postings once in a while.
Just in case I need to go to Australia for my work :-)

Cheers, Scorpio

[HoMaster]

One other thing about SW's as opposed to escort agencies....you can window shop for an hour or so before you buy - the thrill of the hunt if you get my drift. And you know exactly what you're buying 'cuz you can see them! as opposed to the agency ads/doctored pics, etc. I have $$$, but I don't waste it on those agency chics.

- HoMaster

[Dickperv]

Originally posted by Knobman

>CONS

<<snipped>>

2. It's dangerous. Pick up a girl whose a crack or rock junky and she'll even threaten your life. Some of these girls are armed with knives or other objects and they'll rob you or assault you.[/i]

Knobman, I personally don't go for these women, but maybe certain personality types thrive on the danger? - and consider it a PRO?

Guys, before you bombard me - I'm just wondering why people with plenty forex $$$ use STW's? Boggles my tiny mind!

Dickperv

PS Where are you Scorpio?