South Africa

[Thelonoius]

Who knows, maybe we have the same contacts on our WhatsApp.

Thanks for this thorough report. This reality is sad. I haven't been there since last year but I usually found at least 1 or 2 that were def to my liking. I have the whatsapps for my favs so I guess I'll just have to go that route going forward. Hopefully this just drives talent up at Royal park..

[JustTK]

Never been to Africa but been looking at those ads on Exotic Africa specifically Cape town.

Are they mainly photoshot or just made up pictures?

I have no idea. I don't use social media like Insta. But I can say SA is very 'cosmopolitan' when it comes to encountering ladies from other African countries. And a few non-African countries.

[Mongmann]

Thanks for this thorough report. This reality is sad. I haven't been there since last year but I usually found at least 1 or 2 that were def to my liking. I have the whatsapps for my favs so I guess I'll just have to go that route going forward. Hopefully this just drives talent up at Royal park.

As promised, here is a more comprehensive report regarding the Summit Club in Jozzy.

This report is based on my personal feelings during my recent visits in early April 2024 compared to the numerous visits I have made there over the past 15 years. And of course, I took into account the feedback of some girls working in this club (I will not mention the names of these girls here to avoid them getting into trouble).

As most of you know, the management of the Summit Club has changed a few months ago and it is not without consequences.

I had already given an overview in my previous post during my last visit (it was then in November 2023) on the attitude of certain girls who no longer respect the standards in terms of price as well as their questionable hygiene (it seems that the free STD tests are now gone).

As a regular customer for over 15 years, I have formed long-standing friendships with some of the girls and have recently heard more and more complaints from the dancers working there about a drop in their daily wages. Their salary would now be 100 ZAR per day!

For those who don't know, dancers must pay for their uniforms themselves (we're talking about 500 ZAR) as well as the DJ during their shows (150 ZAR).

Girls are also subject to fines if they do not wear makeup (for instance they are forced to wear fake eyelashes, even if it causes allergies) or if they do not wear high heels.

They used to earn a price money of over 1000 ZAR for dance competionts before COVID. Now, he reward is 250 ZAR only.

Add to that the cost of transportation and food, you will understand, the girls no longer earn anything working there. They can only count on tips to earn a minimum. Some of them started to leave the club. Those who haven't yet done so are seriously thinking about it.

Tip included, a day brings them around 300 ZAR excluding sexual services. Not all of them are keen on having pay for sex activities by the way.

This situation has an impact on the girl's behavior which becomes more and more unhappy and bitchy.

In short, once in the club, you may be harassed by girls to pay them something to eat or drink; even if you are already sitting with another girl. You will give them a note to have peace but in practice, they will keep the money and buy nothing. We are therefore no longer in a hassle-free atmosphere as before. Note that girls do not earn commission on drinks.

Regarding extra activities, instead of multiplying sessions at 300 - 500 ZAR as before, the trend is now to settle for 1 or 2 per shift but at a higher rate.

Obviously, the price they charge for their services is also increasing sharply.

It is now almost impossible to find a dancer accepting less than 1000 ZAR for a short time session. Most want 1500 or even more. All this for a maximum of 30 minutes in a rented booth.

Management is now very strict on hte 30 minutes limit (I have never experienced that before). If you exceed the allotted time, the price is multiplied by 2. The same goes for the rental of the booth (price is still 80 ZAR by the way) and for condoms (20 ZAR each).

There are now chances that girls will now ask you to pay for their services beforehand, which I find very uncomfortable and opens the door to rip-offs. It never happened to me before. Is this a new directive from management?

What also makes me uncomfortable is their complaints when you haven't reached the orgasm after 15 minutes (baby, you need to come now! Yes, it's new to me too.

Not so long ago it was easy to find a dancer who would follow you home for less than R1000 after their shift. Now it's over 5000. Not worth it anymore as you can still have an all night threesome with 2 freelancers in Sandton for that price.

It is still possible to fuck for 700 for a short time with freelancers but they are starting to adopt the same behavior as dancers (paying in advance, watching the time and asking for more money after 15 minutes).

Regarding health checks, you should know that more than 50% of the girls who work there are HIV positive and that some knowingly offer services without a condom for 1000 ZAR more (BBBJ or even BBFS). In the past, a free STD screening service was provided every month, as well as free condoms and a free treatment in case of infection. It seems that this is no longer happening either. Be careful, the threat of AIDS is very real. I have known some girls who have sadly left us in recent years.

In conclusion, this club is heading towards ruin, it's starting to show in the quality of the girls and the lack of customers.

You will have understood that I no longer recommend this place at all. It's no longer the relaxed atmosphere with nice and cheap girls that you could still find a year ago.

The only still interesting option in the area remains for me the Royal Park where it is still possible to have a good time with freelancers for 200 and dancers for 500. Let's hope that the Royal Park does not follow the example of its fellow competitor.

Looking forward to reading your comments. Thanks for sharing your opinion on the current situation of the club.

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[MohdirFan82]

Never been to Africa but been looking at those ads on Exotic Africa specifically Cape town.

Are they mainly photoshot or just made up pictures?

[Terry09]

As promised, here is a more comprehensive report regarding the Summit Club in Jozzy.

This report is based on my personal feelings during my recent visits in early April 2024 compared to the numerous visits I have made there over the past 15 years. And of course, I took into account the feedback of some girls working in this club (I will not mention the names of these girls here to avoid them getting into trouble).

As most of you know, the management of the Summit Club has changed a few months ago and it is not without consequences.

I had already given an overview in my previous post during my last visit (it was then in November 2023) on the attitude of certain girls who no longer respect the standards in terms of price as well as their questionable hygiene (it seems that the free STD tests are now gone).

As a regular customer for over 15 years, I have formed long-standing friendships with some of the girls and have recently heard more and more complaints from the dancers working there about a drop in their daily wages. Their salary would now be 100 ZAR per day!

For those who don't know, dancers must pay for their uniforms themselves (we're talking about 500 ZAR) as well as the DJ during their shows (150 ZAR).

Girls are also subject to fines if they do not wear makeup (for instance they are forced to wear fake eyelashes, even if it causes allergies) or if they do not wear high heels.

They used to earn a price money of over 1000 ZAR for dance competionts before COVID. Now, he reward is 250 ZAR only.

Add to that the cost of transportation and food, you will understand, the girls no longer earn anything working there. They can only count on tips to earn a minimum. Some of them started to leave the club. Those who haven't yet done so are seriously thinking about it.

Tip included, a day brings them around 300 ZAR excluding sexual services. Not all of them are keen on having pay for sex activities by the way.

This situation has an impact on the girl's behavior which becomes more and more unhappy and bitchy.

In short, once in the club, you may be harassed by girls to pay them something to eat or drink; even if you are already sitting with another girl. You will give them a note to have peace but in practice, they will keep the money and buy nothing. We are therefore no longer in a hassle-free atmosphere as before. Note that girls do not earn commission on drinks.

Regarding extra activities, instead of multiplying sessions at 300 - 500 ZAR as before, the trend is now to settle for 1 or 2 per shift but at a higher rate.

Obviously, the price they charge for their services is also increasing sharply.

It is now almost impossible to find a dancer accepting less than 1000 ZAR for a short time session. Most want 1500 or even more. All this for a maximum of 30 minutes in a rented booth.

Management is now very strict on hte 30 minutes limit (I have never experienced that before). If you exceed the allotted time, the price is multiplied by 2. The same goes for the rental of the booth (price is still 80 ZAR by the way) and for condoms (20 ZAR each).

There are now chances that girls will now ask you to pay for their services beforehand, which I find very uncomfortable and opens the door to rip-offs. It never happened to me before. Is this a new directive from management?

What also makes me uncomfortable is their complaints when you haven't reached the orgasm after 15 minutes (baby, you need to come now! Yes, it's new to me too.

Not so long ago it was easy to find a dancer who would follow you home for less than R1000 after their shift. Now it's over 5000. Not worth it anymore as you can still have an all night threesome with 2 freelancers in Sandton for that price.

It is still possible to fuck for 700 for a short time with freelancers but they are starting to adopt the same behavior as dancers (paying in advance, watching the time and asking for more money after 15 minutes).

Regarding health checks, you should know that more than 50% of the girls who work there are HIV positive and that some knowingly offer services without a condom for 1000 ZAR more (BBBJ or even BBFS). In the past, a free STD screening service was provided every month, as well as free condoms and a free treatment in case of infection. It seems that this is no longer happening either. Be careful, the threat of AIDS is very real. I have known some girls who have sadly left us in recent years.

In conclusion, this club is heading towards ruin, it's starting to show in the quality of the girls and the lack of customers.

You will have understood that I no longer recommend this place at all. It's no longer the relaxed atmosphere with nice and cheap girls that you could still find a year ago.

The only still interesting option in the area remains for me the Royal Park where it is still possible to have a good time with freelancers for 200 and dancers for 500. Let's hope that the Royal Park does not follow the example of its fellow competitor.

Looking forward to reading your comments. Thanks for sharing your opinion on the current situation of the club.

Very sad if this is the state of affairs.

Had a blast the last time I was there with a Phillipines girl.

[Questner]

Not about 'tight ship'. It's the philosophical dichotomy. I don't feel I need a super model, so why should I pay for one? Just like I don't feel like a need a Ferrari, even if I had the money, I wouldn't buy one because they don't really interest me for the extra money.

I get it. Well, some say 'she just did the damn thing'. Other value money much more than pussy. Corvette is just fine.

[JustTK]

2000 is a huge amount of money considering the wages in this country; even for the whole night. Note that I'm not into white girls.

And looks aren't everything. Some girls look great dressed up but disappointing when naked.

Right, but she looked gorgeous both ways. But your correct. Looks aren't everything. I kinda find it a turn off in any case, if someone assesses their own self worth in this way. Note, she is not white. Quite black.

[JustTK]

2,000 ZAR is about $106 USD. Running a tight ship, eh? Where would anyone get 'supermodels' for less?

Not about 'tight ship'. It's the philosophical dichotomy. I don't feel I need a super model, so why should I pay for one? Just like I don't feel like a need a Ferrari, even if I had the money, I wouldn't buy one because they don't really interest me for the extra money.

[Thelonoius]

2000 is a huge amount of money considering the wages in this country; even for the whole night. Note that I'm not into white girls.

And looks aren't everything. Some girls look great dressed up but disappointing when naked (sagging breasts, pregnancy masks, cellulite, .).

With the demise of the Embassy Club, it seems that the Cape Town scene is now mostly internet research (using the various lady ad websites). Not really my thing as I much prefer to see someone face to face first to get an impression of their personality.

Mostly short time can be negotiated down to are 500, sometimes a little more, one time less. But I 'met' this girl on the most basic website of the lot and she wnated are 2000 for an hour. I told her that only supermodels try to charge that kinda price, so she sent me a photo of her and yes she is a supermodel looker! She looked super beautiful with a great figure. BUt regardless, I said no. Why?

1. Because I just didn't think it is worth it to pay 4 times what I pay to other girls. It's not like I am going to marry her.

2. I balk at paying over USD 100 for sex. I just don't think it's worth it for me personally. I would rather watch stripchat and have a w@nk.

I know there is no 'right' answer. It's a philosophical and personal question. Everyone will have their own take.

[Questner]

With the demise of the Embassy Club, it seems that the Cape Town scene is now mostly internet research (using the various lady ad websites). Not really my thing as I much prefer to see someone face to face first to get an impression of their personality.

Mostly short time can be negotiated down to are 500, sometimes a little more, one time less. But I 'met' this girl on the most basic website of the lot and she wnated are 2000 for an hour. I told her that only supermodels try to charge that kinda price, so she sent me a photo of her and yes she is a supermodel looker! She looked super beautiful with a great figure. BUt regardless, I said no. Why?

1. Because I just didn't think it is worth it to pay 4 times what I pay to other girls. It's not like I am going to marry her.

2. I balk at paying over USD 100 for sex. I just don't think it's worth it for me personally. I would rather watch stripchat and have a w@nk.

I know there is no 'right' answer. It's a philosophical and personal question. Everyone will have their own take.

2,000 ZAR is about $106 USD. Running a tight ship, eh? Where would anyone get 'supermodels' for less?

[JustTK]

With the demise of the Embassy Club, it seems that the Cape Town scene is now mostly internet research (using the various lady ad websites). Not really my thing as I much prefer to see someone face to face first to get an impression of their personality.

Mostly short time can be negotiated down to are 500, sometimes a little more, one time less. But I 'met' this girl on the most basic website of the lot and she wnated are 2000 for an hour. I told her that only supermodels try to charge that kinda price, so she sent me a photo of her and yes she is a supermodel looker! She looked super beautiful with a great figure. BUt regardless, I said no. Why?

1. Because I just didn't think it is worth it to pay 4 times what I pay to other girls. It's not like I am going to marry her.

2. I balk at paying over USD 100 for sex. I just don't think it's worth it for me personally. I would rather watch stripchat and have a w@nk.

I know there is no 'right' answer. It's a philosophical and personal question. Everyone will have their own take.

[Thelonoius]

As promised, here is a more comprehensive report regarding the Summit Club in Jozzy.

This report is based on my personal feelings during my recent visits in early April 2024 compared to the numerous visits I have made there over the past 15 years. And of course, I took into account the feedback of some girls working in this club (I will not mention the names of these girls here to avoid them getting into trouble).

As most of you know, the management of the Summit Club has changed a few months ago and it is not without consequences.

I had already given an overview in my previous post during my last visit (it was then in November 2023) on the attitude of certain girls who no longer respect the standards in terms of price as well as their questionable hygiene (it seems that the free STD tests are now gone).

As a regular customer for over 15 years, I have formed long-standing friendships with some of the girls and have recently heard more and more complaints from the dancers working there about a drop in their daily wages. Their salary would now be 100 ZAR per day!

For those who don't know, dancers must pay for their uniforms themselves (we're talking about 500 ZAR) as well as the DJ during their shows (150 ZAR).

Girls are also subject to fines if they do not wear makeup (for instance they are forced to wear fake eyelashes, even if it causes allergies) or if they do not wear high heels.

They used to earn a price money of over 1000 ZAR for dance competionts before COVID. Now, he reward is 250 ZAR only.

Add to that the cost of transportation and food, you will understand, the girls no longer earn anything working there. They can only count on tips to earn a minimum. Some of them started to leave the club. Those who haven't yet done so are seriously thinking about it.

Tip included, a day brings them around 300 ZAR excluding sexual services. Not all of them are keen on having pay for sex activities by the way.

This situation has an impact on the girl's behavior which becomes more and more unhappy and bitchy.

In short, once in the club, you may be harassed by girls to pay them something to eat or drink; even if you are already sitting with another girl. You will give them a note to have peace but in practice, they will keep the money and buy nothing. We are therefore no longer in a hassle-free atmosphere as before. Note that girls do not earn commission on drinks.

Regarding extra activities, instead of multiplying sessions at 300 - 500 ZAR as before, the trend is now to settle for 1 or 2 per shift but at a higher rate.

Obviously, the price they charge for their services is also increasing sharply.

It is now almost impossible to find a dancer accepting less than 1000 ZAR for a short time session. Most want 1500 or even more. All this for a maximum of 30 minutes in a rented booth.

Management is now very strict on hte 30 minutes limit (I have never experienced that before). If you exceed the allotted time, the price is multiplied by 2. The same goes for the rental of the booth (price is still 80 ZAR by the way) and for condoms (20 ZAR each).

There are now chances that girls will now ask you to pay for their services beforehand, which I find very uncomfortable and opens the door to rip-offs. It never happened to me before. Is this a new directive from management?

What also makes me uncomfortable is their complaints when you haven't reached the orgasm after 15 minutes (baby, you need to come now! Yes, it's new to me too.

Not so long ago it was easy to find a dancer who would follow you home for less than R1000 after their shift. Now it's over 5000. Not worth it anymore as you can still have an all night threesome with 2 freelancers in Sandton for that price.

It is still possible to fuck for 700 for a short time with freelancers but they are starting to adopt the same behavior as dancers (paying in advance, watching the time and asking for more money after 15 minutes).

Regarding health checks, you should know that more than 50% of the girls who work there are HIV positive and that some knowingly offer services without a condom for 1000 ZAR more (BBBJ or even BBFS). In the past, a free STD screening service was provided every month, as well as free condoms and a free treatment in case of infection. It seems that this is no longer happening either. Be careful, the threat of AIDS is very real. I have known some girls who have sadly left us in recent years.

In conclusion, this club is heading towards ruin, it's starting to show in the quality of the girls and the lack of customers.

You will have understood that I no longer recommend this place at all. It's no longer the relaxed atmosphere with nice and cheap girls that you could still find a year ago.

The only still interesting option in the area remains for me the Royal Park where it is still possible to have a good time with freelancers for 200 and dancers for 500. Let's hope that the Royal Park does not follow the example of its fellow competitor.

Looking forward to reading your comments. Thanks for sharing your opinion on the current situation of the club.

[Thelonoius]

The information in the post below was taken from my trip in November 2023.

At the time, the management of the club had just changed and we could already notice a certain repercussion in the attitude of the girls. Unfortunately, things got worse. The good days of the Summit are now behind us. The atmosphere is deteriorating sharply following recent changes in girls' working conditions. We can see that the girls are no longer happy working here because they earn almost nothing!

The prices I gave in the post below are no longer valid with the exception of the price of entry and taxis.

Concerning girls:

For dancers, a 30-minute session (15 in practice; you'll se why) will cost you a minimum of 1500 ZAR for the girl + an additional 100 ZAR (80 for the rental of the booth + 20 for 1 condom) to be paid at cashier. There is also a good chance that the girl will ask you to pay in advance for her services; which increases the risk that it will eject you after 15 minutes.

For freelancers, the rate starts at 700 but it's possible to negotiate and drop the price to 500.

Also note that the dancers are no longer as motivated to do extras and are content with one or two sex sessions per shift.

In short, I no longer recommend this club at all. I will write a slightly longer article giving more details.

The Summit club.

Located in Hillbrow. The club is safe but the neighborhood not. Ubers are not welcome (drop off is ok but some drivers will let you at the McDonalds). A taxi ride to Sandton will cost you 300 ZAR; 100 to the train station if you want to go back with the Gautrain.

Entrance is 50 ZAR before 4 pm And 100 after. Big stage with nice shows. Dancers are available for "private shows" in booths. Usually, everything is going well but I had a bad experience with a dancer from Congo called Sweetness. The girl had an infection and her pussy smelled like rotten fish. My advice: ask the price beforehand and don't assume that all girls are ok for 500 ZAR. This will save you headaches like I experienced with that girl who wanted 1000 ZAR. Nevertheless, bear in mind that most dancers charge you less than 500.

Some girls have also a room in the premises and are usually cheaper (200 to 500 ZAR).

[JustTK]

Went to Naughty 40's yesterday in Cape Town CBD. First time I have been there in a few years.

ZAR 1500 for 1 hour, ZAR 1200 for 30 minutes.

Place opens between 11 am and 4 pm, Mon-Sat. Ladies have 2 shifts. Until 8 pm, then second shift arrives. So I recommend arriving 7 pm to see both shifts.

There were 6 girls there at 6 pm on a Wednesday evening.

Rooms are pretty good. I am jsut sad to see that Embassy Club seems to have gone. Was a much bigger venue and with much more choice.

[Terry09]

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