South Africa

[Blastoff]

Tintin1,

Again thanks for the info.

Firstly I did receive your PM and I did reply to it. I am sorry that you didn't receive my reply.

About girl prices, I have called about 30 girls so far in Joburg from the web sites and the average price quoted for a younger black girl, quite new to this and without too much experience is between 300 rand to 450 per hour or 1500 to 2000 per night. Some very hot black and colored girls are asking up to 500 per hour or 3500 per night!

White girls are charging a lot more from 500 rand per hour to 1000 for the very hot model types but they are all quoting from 3000 rand to 5000 per night including sleeping at their upmarket apartment.

I may have stumbled onto something here as you said, by the time you add the normal costs, girl, taxis, hotel etc any of these prices quoted for a fully inclusive of everything afternoon and night is pretty good.

If I am doubtful that the girl is not what she appears in her pics, I can ask her to meet me at the airport on the condition that if I don't like her the deal is off or I can take a taxi to her place first to check her out. There are just so many hookers available in Jobourg I am surprised. I wonder how hard it is to get regular girls out of bars and clubs in SA if one has the time?

About your comment about eating at the Y lol, I may just pack sandwiches from home and offer it to the girl with a candle as a romantic dinner date lol.

Cheers and best regards.

Blastoff

[Tintin1]

Tintin1,

Many thanks for your details advice. It will be very valuable to me.

What do you think about the price offered to me by the girls on sex trader over night with all inclusive? Is it to high or a good price?

Regards.

Blastoff

Blastoff,

I am a regular member so sometimes it takes a while for these to get posted.

Apologies.

600 rand for an hour is pretty good price, airport to downtown is probably 300 to 400 rand, so right there you are at 1500. I would think anyone who would give you a night, a place, and all the fixings is CHEAP. TOO CHEAP on one hand, but I suspect you will be asked to help pay gas, maybe a nice tip. I can't tell right now about the economy and business. But the price seems good. It's now ++ R6 to $1. A hotel is about 750 for something 3 star near the airport or in Sandton, up to 2000 - 3000 rand for 4/5 star. If you can have a lady for the night for less than the price of a 4 star hotel and car service, you've done well mate. I assume you'll DINE at the Y and save your money on food as well.

Make sure you ask if the photos you have seen are real. Remember, your problem will be you are stuck with whoever picks you up at the airport, right. This isn't like you can walk away and find a backup. I dropped you a PM but I realize it never got to you, (me being a reg member only).

[Blastoff]

Tintin1,

Many thanks for your details advice. It will be very valuable to me.

What do you think about the price offered to me by the girls on sex trader over night with all inclusive? Is it to high or a good price?

Regards.

Blastoff

[Tintin1]

Gentlemen,

What I am considering is organising in advance a driver, girl and accommodation for the night. I don't really want to book a hotel etc as I will be arriving into Joburg at 4.30pm and flying out the next morning at 9.30am so I am looking for the whole package deal. The girl and driver to show me around town, take us to dinner and spend the night at a girls place (a nice place close to the airport) and have the driver take me to the air port in the morning.

Regards.

Blastoff

My two cents from someone who has been there many times. I would book the Holiday Inn or even something at the airport, just in case or there are a string of nice hotels in Sandton where you can find lots of ladies, or a agency or two. Check sextrader. protea balalaika, holiday inn among others.

Sadly you are changing planes in Joburg, cause if you were doing same in Cape Town, you could go to Body Heat website, they seem to offer an overnight option out of the airport (pick up, girl, etc etc).

If you go to Joburg and decide on clubs instead of an indie, Papillon is pretty good. Most of the agency/club/houses are small affairs, 4 to 10 ladies in a reconverted house. I can't remember too many names at this point, but have visited the Papillon on numerous occasions with good results. Privates advertise on sextrader but best to look in the Daily STAR paper under section 191 entertainment. Papillon is 083 377 800 (it is in Brayonston, Wm Nichol Drive) across from one of the big fancy car dealerships - but v. discreet.
sandtoncovergirls.com had big adverts last time I was there, but never finalized. There is always a tantelizing advert from "flight attendent" on various papers and in sextrader that has me wondering. You could investigate for me, listed as Demi? Elysium and Club 37 were two of the larger places (like Papillon).

Just remember with these clubs/private houses, they have 4 to 6 ladies on at any given time, OK sometimes less. You just call and ask for a description on the phone and they will oblige. You'll hear White/Black/ or coloured. Coloured being any mixed race ladies, often Cape Malay, or Indian. It's not a derogatory term. And you could ask the price of an overnight, i am sure they would let you stay. Papillon had a whoppig wonderful room in the back house with a jacuzzi, i used for an hour or two last time I was there. Price was about 500 for first hour, can't remember the rest.

Good luck.

[Blastoff]

Gentlemen,

I have called several girls out of the Sex Trader web site as recommended by Phaltu2001 and I have got greater than expected immediate results.

What I am considering is organising in advance a driver, girl and accommodation for the night. I don't really want to book a hotel etc as I will be arriving into Joburg at 4.30pm and flying out the next morning at 9.30am so I am looking for the whole package deal. The girl and driver to show me around town, take us to dinner and spend the night at a girls place (a nice place close to the airport) and have the driver take me to the air port in the morning.

So far all the girls I have spoken are black and colored from light to dark skinned and have agreed to all my needs at varying prices starting form 1500 rand up to 2,000 rand for the whole package including airport pick up, site seeing and a bed with the girl for the night. The only extra will be that I pay for dinner, big deal.

As I have never been to SA before, your advice, guidance and comments would be appreciated.

Regards.

Blastoff

[Blastoff]

Blastoff, don't know of any in particular that would allow you an overnight - though a lot do entertain all nighters. You may want to check the following sites:

www.***********
www.sextrader.co.za

A lots of girls works in groups and generally don't work out of thier homes. For all nighters, they usually do in-call only. However, there are quiet a number of students, who are on the above listed site, who work alone out of their homes. They will certainly entertain an all nighter at their place. Hope this info is useful.

Many thanks there seems to be a few possibilities on these sites you posted. I will contact a number of the ones I am interested in and post any results here.

Regards.

Blastoff

[Phaltu]

Also I forgot to mention, if any one can recommend a private girl that will allow me to stay at her apartment until the morning, that would hit 2 birds with one stone for me as I will need a place to sleep and a warm body for comfort.

Please PM me if you have any contacts in this area.

Regards.

Blastoff

Blastoff, don't know of any in particular that would allow you an overnight - though a lot do entertain all nighters. You may want to check the following sites:

www.***********
www.sextrader.co.za

A lots of girls works in groups and generally don't work out of thier homes. For all nighters, they usually do in-call only. However, there are quiet a number of students, who are on the above listed site, who work alone out of their homes. They will certainly entertain an all nighter at their place. Hope this info is useful.

[Blastoff]

Also I forgot to mention, if any one can recommend a private girl that will allow me to stay at her apartment until the morning, that would hit 2 birds with one stone for me as I will need a place to sleep and a warm body for comfort.

Please PM me if you have any contacts in this area.

Regards.

Blastoff

[Blastoff]

Gentlemen of the Mongering fraternity,

I am headed to Kenya via Joburg.

I will be spending the night of the 19th June from 4pm to 9.30am the following day in Joburg and on my way back again the day and night of the 16th of August and leaving at night on the 17th of August heading back home.

Can u recommend any tours day or adult night tours of Joburg while I am there? Any great massage parlours or strip clubs I should experience while I am there in SA? Any private contacts that I should email or call for an appointment before I leave?

Is there a particular mid priced hotel u would recommend in Joburg for one night that is girl friendly.

Any suggestions would be appreciated as I have read about 400 pages on this site about Kenya that have been invaluable to me and if I can avoid the reading due to only a 2 night visit to Joburg, I would love to know the answers in short form.

Happy mongering.

Best regards.

Blastoff

[MI Hunter]

Going to RSA for a safari. I want to check out the 2 legged animals. It sounds like most everything posted here isnt labeled which city. I'm taking it Capetown. Anything going on in Port Elizabeth?

[Catalyst]

Here is a long report of a trip I took several years ago. It won’t help you with current prices or hot clubs, but some of the information might still be useful or it might just be entertaining.

Cape Town is not known as a mongering location, but I found it to be alright. I did a lot of tourism and only went to clubs in the evenings. I wouldn’t go there for the mongering, but if you are there for some other reason you don’t have to spend your nights alone.

[Catalyst]

Body Heat had the best reviews on the Internet before I left for my trip. It was between Sea Point and the downtown. When I arrived there was only one girl who was interesting, but she was nice, maybe an 8. There was no entrance fee, so if there had been no good looking girls I could have just left and not suffered any damage.

I sat with the pretty girl. She had long blonde hair and had a nice slender figure. We made some stiff conversation and then she mumbled “I’ve never done this before. I don’t really know what to do.” Wow. This was going to be a first for both of us. She told me a bit about where she grew up and it sounded pretty normal. I asked her why she wanted to work here. I was expecting some story about how she needed the money, either a hard luck story, or something about how she was paying her way through school. But she said “I don’t know ...” and then blurted out with a big smile “I just wanted to be a wh*re!”

That seemed like a good reason to me. I couldn’t wait to make her one.

We got undressed and took a shower together. Actually, she washed me but not herself, and this was unfortunate because she had a bit of BO, which was odd for such a cute girl. I tried to get her into the shower, but I could see that she was following a procedure that she had been taught and I didn’t want to come right out and tell her that she needed a shower since that might spoil the mood.

We had good foreplay with bbbj and when I was ready I asked if she had a condom. She said “oh, don’t worry about that. It’ll just be our little secret.” This was an interesting invitation. If this was really her first day on the job maybe the risks were minimal. But I didn’t know what kind of boyfriends she had outside the club, and this was f---ing South Africa after all, one of the AIDS capitals of the world. Maybe the risks weren’t as high with a white girl, but I had someone back home that I didn’t want to put at risk, so I said we needed to use one and I cautioned her that she should always use one. I asked if we could do cim and she said no. She said she would suck me to completion and I could cum on her tits, but I had to be careful not to cum in her mouth.

There was a generous time limit of 40 or 50 minutes, but we went way beyond it, mostly by lying together and talking afterwards. The club was empty, so she wasn’t missing out on a lot of business, but still I felt a little guilty since she was new and might have been afraid to say anything. It all went nicely and after getting dressed we talked some more. I asked her how she liked being a wh*re and she said it felt good. She said she hadn’t expected the guys she saw to be interested in talking to her or learning about her, where she was from, etc ... There was no one else in the club who I was interested in, so I left. Total cost, 300 rand, or about 50 usd.

[Catalyst]

The choice of establishments wasn’t overwhelming, so I went back to the same place for the second night in a row. The same girl was there and I did her again. It was pretty much a rerun of the day before, including the chit chat beforehand, the shower, overall good sex, and cumming on her tits (and unfortunately the BO too). A couple of things were different. There was no talk of doing it without a condom, and she didn’t clock watch, but she knew when the time was up so we didn’t chat and cuddle together for such a long time afterwards. Someone must have noticed how long we took the day before and said something to her. I sat with her afterwards and started a conversation, but she didn’t jump right into it. I noticed that there was another guy there, and I figured he was likely to think the same thing I did, that she was the best girl there and maybe the only one worth doing, and maybe she wanted to be free for him, so I left.

I checked out the places on and around Beach Road in Sea point only a couple of which I had seen mentioned on the internet. There were some small clubs that I could walk into without a cover charge and a couple of them had one or two girls who weren’t too bad. The ones that had been talked about on the internet didn’t seem any better than the ones that hadn’t been mentioned. There were some other clubs that required cover charges, and I was hesitant to try them out because a lot of the clubs I could go into for free had no good women and I didn’t want to throw away a cover charge (about $15 or $20 if I remember right) and find nothing there. But I decided to try just one to make sure I wasn’t missing the good quality clubs.

I knocked on the door, a small window opened, and I was asked to hand over my money. When I did the door opened onto a spacious room decorated with cheesy wh*re-red velvet. There were many barstools but with only one or two girls and some passageways leading to other rooms and possibly the promise of more girls. The guy who let me in, a tall hefty 30-ish man with a sleazy moustache, said “what will you have to drink, Sir?” I asked for a soft drink, thinking that it was included. A so so girl in her 30s that I was not interested in gave me a tour of the club. It quickly became apparent that there were only two or three girls in the whole club and none that were cute. She showed me various Jacuzzis, beds, and sofas and explained the diversity of overpriced services related to each of them. I returned from the tour sullen and headed for the door. The guy who let me in said “Sir, that’ll be x rand for the drink” (I forget how much it was. It was overpriced, but not extortion.) I left in a bad mood.

I already knew now that they all ran the same scam, but just to confirm I knocked on the door of one more cover charge club. The little window opened and a thuggish guy with a shaved head told me the price. I asked if I could just stick my head in side to see what was there before paying and he said absolutely not. I smiled knowingly and said “I see” and walked off, which seemed to [CodeWord140] him off.

I went back to one of the small free-entry clubs where I had seen a nice looking Indian girl that I now had my heart set on doing. She was still there when I returned, and she was talking to another girl, so everything looked good. She was short and thin, with a nice figure and straight black hair. The only problem was she wouldn’t stop talking to this friend of hers. I waited for a while, and then tried hovering near them, but they wouldn’t acknowledge me. Finally she got up and went into some employees only area, leaving the friend behind, and I asked the friend if she thought the Indian girl would be interested in going with me when she returned. The friend told me that the Indian girl was very upset because someone in her family had been in an accident. She said that tonight wouldn’t be a good night. Bummer.

But I didn’t leave right away (I thought it would look cheesy to go right out the door after that) and a minute later the Indian girl came over to me and said that she was indeed upset, but that she would like to go with me and that even though she was upset it would really be good. She looked genuinely upset but sounded sincere about her offer. So I went with her and she truly tried to please me. It was quite nice, nice enough that I felt more sorry about something having happened to someone in her family. As I was showering a guy started yelling that money was missing from his wallet. He saw me and told me that I had better keep an eye on my things. He wasn’t getting violent or threatening, but he was deliberately making a scene. The Indian girl told me that nothing was taken from him, that he was crazy and just making trouble. But I showered quickly and kept an eye on my stuff nevertheless.

[Catalyst]

In spite of the good experience I wasn’t impressed by the clubs on Beach Road. Going back to Body Heat to do the same girl for a third time wasn’t a terrible option, but I preferred to explore other opportunities. So when I returned late from the vineyards I looked in the newspaper and the largest ads were for a place called Paradise. Larger ads means more money is involved, and this can be because the place is bigger with better women, or it can be because it is the biggest rip off club run by the people most skilled at taking your money. I had to find out which.

It was downtown, which meant driving into a less safe area at night. When I arrived I walked into a large room and it was immediately clear that I was in the right place and that I should have come sooner. There were over a dozen girls and several of them looked good. One in particular, an athletic looking blonde, stood out as the most beautiful. It was an easy choice.

She let me to a room with a bed which was comfortable, and put a porno video on the TV. She was sweet and girl next doorish but she picked out a video of two guys double fucking a blonde (like her). I asked her about it and she said she had no interest at all in having sex with two guys at once. She also told me that she had been on the South African Olympic team in swimming or running I think. She asked me if I wanted to try a female condom with her, a bag that she inserts inside her, and I said yes. The sex should have been great since she was so beautiful, young, and hot, but after lots of travel, sex, and wine I wasn’t able to get it up even though she did her best to help. She was very gentle about telling me when my time was up. It was disappointing, but not expensive (the price was 300 rands like in the other places), and just being with her naked was not so bad.

That was years ago and things have surely changed. Years ago the best plan was to go to the place that had the biggest ad in the paper, so maybe that plan would work now. I’m sure the cover price joints are still a rip off and still will be years from now.

[Rean]

Guys,

This forum does not seem to have many contributions there must be people mongering out there. I have found many top ladies in Joberg.

If you want details of any I have used then please drop me a PM with colour etc and I will send details of who I have been with. As for costs I have found that R2000 to R3000 is the norm for all night, some think they can as R6000 never been with any. I usually go for all night other wise I have found R400 per hour visiting you is the norm per hour. Never had problems with any hotel but mainly stay in 4/5 Star. Hilton will send a bell boy with a registration book for you to sign in your room.

***.sextrader.co.za I have always found the girls reliable and photos real. I normally talk to the girls first telling them what I want and the hotel I am in to see if there is any problems. I travel in from the UK and book 48hrs in advance.