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[Napalm]

Ok so far I've done one Army chick twice, and a Philipina girl from the PX twice but no pro action yet. I wouldn't mind hitting a little A-rab poontang while I'm here but I don't think that's gonna happen. I don't trust any of these hajis. Think I'll just wait till I go on R&R next month and stop off in Amman.

[Gallant]

I appreciate what you say Lalo and I've been told the same thing by many Saudi's, Emarati's, Lebanese and Iraqi's but I'm still doubtful but as you can see from my post below yours I have only praise otherwise for Arabic women.

Slightly off the mongering topic but out of interest did anyone see the Iraqi bodybuilders in Baghdad yesterday?
http://www.baghdadbulletin.com/pageArticle.php?article_id=112&cat_id=2

They won't be needing us if anymore of them keep pumping themselves up.

[Lalo77]

Its ok napalm

All muslims clean their asses by wiping it with left hand with water for sure. Its cleaner than toilet paper trust me. Water clean any dirts in the ass but toilet paper left some dirts. Don't be affraid of the smelling of the asses. In fact we Muslims say that you've bad smells because you don't use water. Its ok.

Happy hunting

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[Gallant]

The reason for bad teeth and lack of toilet tissue would probably be the fact that you saw women in a refugee camp! It makes sense. Unfortunately, issues of bad teeth arise when you live in a country that has been war torn for the past 30 years and cosmetic dentistry is no longer a priority in life.

One of the women I lusted after for many years was an Iraqi woman(living outside of Iraq.) She had the largest pair of natural breasts I have ever seen and a picture perfect face with full lips. She had full everything infact! Beautiful eyes, skin,hair and ofcourse perfect teeth!

It's just depressing to see what war does to women. Iraq had the first Arab Miss World in the 70's, you know?

[Napalm]

But yeah some of those Iraqi women are pretty good looking too. I was there in 91 and we ran a refugee camp in Rafah SA for a little while. Some of them didn't have their veils on when we would drive by and let me tell you I saw some fine ass exotic looking women - until they smiled and then it was like ahh holy shit with a fucked up grill looking like they never brushed their teeth a day in their life.

That's just my limited experience with a few of them though, I'm sure they're not all like that (hopefully).

The other thing is that I don't think they use toilet paper over there. They either wipe with their left hand or splash water on their ass. I would be kinda worried about that ass smelling or not being clean, but since I've never had any Iraqi poontang I could be way off base.

Anyways happy mongering and stay safe.

[Napalm]

I just hired on as a security contractor. Don't have a deployment date yet but hopefully it will be soon. I will definately keep my eyes open for any mongering opportunities while I'm there.

Heard from a friend that just got back and he says there are Iraqi women that will hang around some of the bases and service GI's, but you gotta have them stick out their tongue, and if it's black they have syphilis. Watch out for that shit, that's fuggin nasty!

I think I'll just wait the 90 days for R&R and head on over to Argentina for a couple weeks. The women there are smoking hot!

[Travel Fool]

Hello all,

This is my first post on the Iraq board. I am in Mosul w/ a private security company and I am headed to Baghdad tomorrow for business prior to going out on R&R. Others in my company have contacts at a hotel outside the Green Zone and I am working to get some definites for tomorrow evening. My goal is two at once! I will let you know how it goes and I will pass on the narrative after it unfolds (hopefully!).

The action exists but last time we were there the hotel reception desk denied knowledge of it b/c he didn't know us. He wouldn't give up the number. If we arrive w/ the number we can sign the 'guests' in to the hotel and through security. I will post tomorrow or the next and let you know how it goes.

[Tripod]

Bigbob,

I was one of the guys that PM'ed you about your contacts. After reading the article in the 26 July issue of Time magazine about the "honor" killings of women now going on in Iraq, I understand your position. To us Westerners, this type of thing is totally incomprehensible but we must understand that this is an entirely different culture with a completely different take on things. In the Green Zone, booze is readily available. A few Iraqi residents in the Green Zone have gone into business selling this stuff out of their houses to Westerners in the Green Zone. Porn is readily available at the Haji mart. Many Iraqis are very business savvy. Some of them have quickly learned that we have an affinity for porn so what they are doing, now that satellite dishes are allowed in Iraq, is digitally copying porn onto DVDs and selling this stuff to Westerners. But tail is a completely different story. I am sure that it is available someplace in Baghdad but getting to it is extremely difficult because of the culture here. I will keep trying and if I hit paydirt, I will definitely post it here but in a discreet manner. FYI, I am working with Iraqi soldiers and we should begin combat ops in Baghdad later on this month. Perhaps I will be able to score some tail in between the ambushes, mortar attacks, car bombs and RPG attacks.

[HectorG]

Several people have PMd to ask for contacts. I'm sorry but unless you know me personally, I will not email contacts.

It would be too easy for the numbers to fall into the wrong hands the girls could end up in jail, or worse. Don't believe me? Take a look at the Dubai forum to see what happened to one local favorite haunt. In Iraq, the girls would likely be killed by their family for shaming their honor. Sorry, call me greedy but that is the way I feel and hope you understand why I cannot share numbers.

[Poontoligist]

Glad to hear it's not all blood and gore over there. Take it from a Vietnam Vet: Nothing makes a War Zone more palitable than Beer, Dope and Local Puss. Keep your heads down boys!

[Stoner]

Interesting report on the AP wire about prostitution in Iraq taking upsteam.

Mentioned a resort town to the north?

[Nice Guy 99]

"I've also seen SW on the streets. Even if they're wearing traditional dresses, you can easily tell they are working girls because they're standing on a street corner wearing nail polish and heavy makeup."

Bigbob, be really careful on that assumption. A great number of covered ladies wear heavy makeup and dress somewhat provacatively under the abaya. It is not a reliable indicator that they are working girls.

[HectorG]

SUCCESS IN IRAQ!!

Yes, this is hard to believe but I found mongering action in Iraq. It all started when me and my Iraqi buddies were sitting in a restaurant. They were reminiscing about how Saddam Hussein used to keep brothels in certain neighborhoods for the use of his higher echelon henchmen. Another guy at the next table overhears us and says he knows so-and-so who can find us a woman. We think he's full of shit until he whips out his cell fone.

Presto. He calls his contact. Within 30 minutes, the second dude drives over to our restaurant. This second guy is a pimp. Imagine a Middle Eastern Huggy Bear. That's how he looked and dressed. So he immediately starts asking us what kind of girls do we like? Fat, skinny, young, old, tall, short, hair color, breast size, etc. He gets on his phone and starts dialing girls. He puts one of the girls on the phone with me. Of course, she doesn't speak a word of english.

All of us in my group are staying at the Sheraton Hotel, which if you watch the news, is surrounded by walls and tanks. It's practically impossible to get in there unless you are staying in the hotel. So we know it would be near impossible to sneak a working girl in there. No problem, says Huggy Bear. He can arrange a house. So this haggling goes on for a while. Finally he says he can get us two girls for $70 each girl, all nighter, plus $50 for the rent of the house. Keep in mind, this is a FORTUNE in Iraq, but we were all blue-balled and decided to take up the offer. He tried but Huggy Bear refused to budge any lower.

About 7pm, we meet Huggy Bear at the agreed intersection. He's in a beat-up piece of crap car with two girls in the back. I cant really see what they're wearing because they're covered in all black traditional dress, kind of like the Afghanistan burkas. He motions for us to follow him. So off we go into the Baghdad night. Now we're getting a little nervous because he's taking us into some residential streets. It's still a middle-class well-to-do neighborhood but people are starting to look up when they see our BMW sedan pull up in front of the house.

The girls rush into the house and we follow. I still can't see them. There are two other guys in my group. This fat madam opens the door and we sit on her couch, waiting for the girls. After a while, Huggy Bear starts demanding another $20 for beer, while madam starts demanding another $50. We begin arguing for a good hour. We only get them down a few bucks. At this point we're all stoned (hash easily found here) and drunk and really dont want to argue. Besides, we're making a shitload of money in Iraq so we figure, what the hell. We pay the price. Yes, I know, we're ruining it for the other punters. I apologize.

Finally the girls come out. Neither speak much English so Huggy Bear translates. One of them is drop-dead GORGEOUS. She's very petite, about 5 foot tall, 100 pounds, with a huge C-cup rack for her frame. She has long dyed blonde hair that goes down to her ass. She was 18, called herself Jewel, rating an 8-9 in my book. The second girl was Zara, a little older, about 25, long brown hair, healthy but not fat, not as cute but still a good 6-7. The girls proceed to do a bunch of belly dancing. This goes on for a good hour. We're all just cheering and clapping as the girls dance. Finally they go back into a back room and then emerge wearing just long t-shirts. They take our hands and lead us into separate bedrooms (there were three, so one guy had to wait a turn). I got the younger girl. It was decent service but not GFE. She would only do straight missionary but had the nicest rack I've ever seen. After we were done, she got annoying and started saying "Money? Money?" I gave her a $10 tip and she seemed happy. She later told me that she was only getting 25% of the fee we gave Huggy bear. I dont know if she was being honest or just fishing for more tip, but I just nodded and said sorry to hear that.

After I came back to the living room, my buddies were still busy. At this point, three other occupants of the house come home. It turns out the "Madame" has a husband, older son and the son's wife. They're all into the business. We break out beers and crank up the Arabic pop music. I was a bit annoyed at all the people in the house, as we were led to believe we would have the house to ourselves with the girls. So we decided to leave about 2am. The girls stayed all night alone with the family.

I should mention that this was in early March, before all the real violence and bombings happened, so it was still safe to move about during the night. I don't know if I would risk it today. I doubt I would go back to Huggy Bear because, looking back, he ripped us off. The Madam later told us that if we wanted to have the girls again to just go around Huggy and call her directly and offered the girls for $50 apiece, all night.

I've also seen SW on the streets. Even if they're wearing traditional dresses, you can easily tell they are working girls because they're standing on a street corner wearing nail polish and heavy makeup. Most of them are butt ugly, 1-2. One woman who must have been 50 quoted us a price of $50 for ST. We laughed and sped away.

The point of this story is that mongering is everywhere, even in war zones. You just have to look hard. And when you find it, it's expensive. If any soldiers out there can sneak out of their base for a few hours, PM me and maybe we can meet up.

[Member #1005]

Gentlemen,

There are a lot of rumours and hearsay with regards to what is happening in Iraq, as someone that has been in the green zone since last year and also looking for “action” so to speak, but its dead, you have to get outside and into the red zone of the Babylon Hotel, where several girls do hang out, easy to spot touting for business. I have asked many of the KBR contractors here but nothing most of them, do as I do and go to Thailand for their breaks.

On the subject of journalists I have been approached by several, (maybe I look dodgy) and spoken to respected journalist Peter Arnet all looking for a different angle and one of the questions they ask is if know of or aware that there is a vice ring operating within the green zone. So I would suggest you take many of these rumours with a pinch of salt – such issues are very sensitive.

As for action within Camp Wolverine in Kuwait- if you have actually been there and seen the place you will realise it’s a non-starter in my books, so unless someone can pm with some hard evidence to check out and verify, because I will be down there later this month I would disregard this information.

If I was to find any action within the green zone I would be very reluctant to post it anyway because the CPA has to be seen as being whiter than white not only do you have to worry about the terrorist but if the journalists gets hold of this information – you know what would happen it would be closed down. So guys I suggest you stick to the Rashid disco on Thursday night for the closes action you will find within the green zone.

[Steve Naive]

National Public Radio has a show called "This American Life" which did a one-hour report this past weekend on private contractors in Iraq by an indy journalist woman, from recordings she made some months ago. Among many other things, they spent a few minutes discussing rumors of a brothel in or near to the green zone. Having heard this, it sure was interesting to come here and read tripod's reports.

If you want to hear it: visit www.thislife.org, choose "All Episodes/RealAudio in order of broadcast", choose the episode from June 4, 2004 titled "I'm From the Private Sector and I'm Here to Help".

To those of you who are private contractors: while the report was not blatantly critical, and maybe tries to sound objective, you may not find that it casts you in a favorable light.