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[T Poet]

After I get back from my tour of the states i will look u up and see if you are still here WR those Arab contacts sound lovely if things cool down a bit. I am out

TP

[Wicked Roger]

Hi!

Member 2136 - am also a long term resident of Jeddah but I no longer hang around Sharifiah, may go back if/when the security is improved! In my experience few hotspots TP - in fact rapidly declining. Makkah - unless 2136 is a Muslim (?) not sure if we wil ever get a report and even if we do, us infidels will have bugger chance of getting anything there! Some great Arab girls around and know a few who indulge but expensive and sometimes not keen on the westerners at the moment!

Normally the malls and hospitals are good bets for me but nowadays a bit harder and some real ugly ones now employed - must be getting them cheaper! My Filipina friend is great though I might add! Just bloody hard work here - so remind why we are not enjoying the delights of Dubai, Bahrain..?

TP and 2136, email me off line if you want to catch up. Am travelling for a few days next week but am around otherwise. In fact if anyone coming to Jeddah email me through the board.


WR

[T Poet]

I bet so how did you pick that up in Jeddah? share the hotspots I need to get something before I go. Have you been able to get allot of action there? any contacts?

TP

[Member #2136]

Hi!

I've been lurking around for a while, and I have yet to see a report from the Holy City of Makkah, being a long time resident of the Makkah/Jeddah area I've decided to post a bit of info on the scene.

Lets start with Jeddah. The area near the Old Airport is called Sharifiah and is filled with African and Indian females. Although my dick grabs my balls and retreats up into my torso to quiver in fear at the sight of most of them. There is a FINE Somali girl I hooked up with a few weeks ago, unfortunately I was unable to get a contact for her but she did charge SAR50/- for an hour, no BJ of any kind, no anal but did try different positions with a great deal of cajoling. A decent lay, about 8/10.

Will post more later. With more info on Jeddah, Makkah and Medina.

[Wicked Roger]

Everyone,

Have been lurking around reading the posts for while and thought I would add my voice to the recent discussion. Been in Saudi many years and returned here a couple of years ago after 11 here and others spent in Bahrain. First came to Saudi in 1984! Live in Jeddah but many friends either going or gone, some to Bahrain - I used to commute many years ago and Swamp Rat I have had many a great party on Oasis in the 1990s so not surprised you are a commuter after your experience.

Chris P - I agree with earlier comments on Eritreans, many Americans here hanging out with them on the compounds. Too hard - if still keen, fly to Djibouti, loads of Ethiopians there and very enthusiatic (have spent time there as well - one place where the French army and Legion have brothels inside their camps so the girls are clean).

Only chance of women would be the many Asians (Filipinas) that work in the hospitals, hanging around malls at night trying to attract local women/any woman is not intelligent at the moment so basically there is bugger all! I have a Filipina 'friend' and she is always keen and very willing but I am lucky.

Have always liked this place, very friendly but there is now an undercurrent and if the troubles move west then many of us more pragmatic expats may take Swamp Rat's decision.

Not sure if this adds to the debate but if anyone is in Jeddah - cannot say it is top of anyone's lists - let me know.

Roger

[Buzz00]

Swamp Rat,

I quite sympathise with you guys, I thought that only Israel/Gaza/Westbank was getting hit on a regular basis.
It would seem that these militants are definitely going on search
and kill missions - in Israel they just bomb, buses, shopping malls
and the like.

I would assume that hobbying in those parts would be at
the best a very risky enterprise and no quick thrill is worth
dying for.

As for hobbying in Israel - the sport has taken a huge knock due to a massive crack down which started after some criminal types blew up 3 innocent bystanders. There are many MP's though
with tons of CIS girls, and you won't get your ass in a sling as you would in Saudi, even if you could find that.

If you ever get over to this crazy place and believe me its crazy
give me a shout and I can point you in the right direction. As I am in a hugely stressful job the MP's are a great place to let off steam.

Take care and be safe.

Buzz

[T Poet]

For those considering comming here I say don't. The people in general are friendly and unlike the media says the wahabis are not extremists but you have some people with their twisted understanding practicing evil.

Although I am not a Muslim I have many Mutawa freinds (they are faily strict but good people)

As for mongering this is the last place on earth next to Iraq or Afgahanastan maybe. Hope this helps and is not to political.

TP

[Bulldog67]

Hi Priamos,

In answer to your question, yes they are specifically hunting westerners and Christians. They also targeted Indians, because of the conflict in Kashmir.

My family and I huddled in an interior room away from the windows and listened to the gunfire. We were close enough to hear the ejected shell casings hitting the ground. In cases like this, it's the utter helplessness that gets to you, you can't run, hide, or defend your family.

I'm a veteran of conflicts in Angola, the Ivory Coast, Venezuela, and Sotheast Asia. I've been shot at before, but this situation is totally different. People are being hunted down and slaughtered because of their skin color or religious beliefs.

I'll take a lot of risks to make a living, but I'll never subject my family to this again!

Swamp Rat

[Priamos]

Dear Rat & Poet,

What exactly is your problem? Don't get me wrong, I'm asking this question squarely because I want to know. I'm an ageing man now, but I used to live in Beirut in the days of the civil war, and back then we would joke about the intermittent clutter of machine gun fire and the occasional mortar while we were splashing in our pool (by which I mean, the swimming pool provided by the compound in which we lived). It never occurred to me that Libanon was not worth living in just because there was fighting going on a few blocks away.

It got a bit "funnier", I admit, when the Hizbollah started targeting foreign nationals for abduction and murder on account of their being... well, foreign. But then again, I consoled myself thinking that most of the victims were CIA and SIS operatives (we all knew about that...) and not valuable human beings.

And yet, I dunno... are the militants in Saudi Arabia are now specifically targeting foreign unarmed civilians? That does sound a bit crass. I could live with the risk of becoming "collateral" damage in a red-hot conflict, but being stalked in my home because of my Danish passport would probably make me feel I'd overstayed my welcome.

Cheers

Priamos

[Bulldog67]

T Poet,

I'm already gone! I lived close enough to hear the gunfire. I'm looking for a house in Bahrain right now. I'll live in Bahrain and commute to Al Khobar. If that proves to be too big a hassle, my employer can find somewhere else for me to go, or I can find another employer!

Swamp Rat

[T Poet]

I don't think the scene here has ever or will ever be much to brag about if you can ever find it. After the recent killings and kidnappings the past month including yesterdays massacre it was enough for me to decide my Western ass is outter here. No pussy is worth getting your throat cut.

TP

[T Poet]

Something interested I just cvam e for a short term tripo to Jeddah. Although I didn't get any action and I am well aquainted with five finger sally I visited Herra'a Mall and was surprised at the potential got quite a few looks but I think it requires allot of patience and risks any way hope that helps.

TP

[T Poet]

Chris P,

You can forget it uless you have a real flexible sponsor. Depending on your contract as well, most places don't allow you to leave except for the couple holidays Ramadhan etc. and the summer break. In the Eastern Province some people have jobs alowing them to travel to Bahrain on weekends but most people I know including myself don't have that privlege. After the latest killing of some westerners you should think twice. I know many who are leaving and this is no place for hobbying. Africa on the other hand well the reports speak for themselves.

Be safe!

[Bulldog67]

Hello Chris,

I assume from your message that you’ll be based in Riyadh, or in the Eastern Province.

I’m American, based in Dhahran, and have been here three years this time. I worked here two years back in the early nineties.

I can’t tell you much about a ferry service to Eritrea, but I’ll try to find out. My housekeeper is Eritrean.

All foreigners, regardless of religion, must have an iqama. This is a kind of combination ID card and work permit. It is issued in the Kingdom, and renewed in the Kingdom. One does not leave and return as they do in other countries.

As far as trips in and out of the Kingdom, everything has to be arranged in advance. In order to leave and come back, one must have an exit and re-entry visa. These can be obtained for single trips, or for six months, multiple use. The single use costs 200 Saudi riyals, and the multiple use costs 500 riyals. In most cases, this is handled by one’s employer.

I assume also that you will be provided with a company vehicle. To take the vehicle out of Saudi, one must have written permission (in Arabic & attested by the Chamber of Commerce) from the vehicles owner. When traveling to other GCC countries, insurance can be purchased at the border. I purchase Bahraini insurance annually; it costs 500 riyals per year.

If you have any other questions, send me a private message, so as not to clutter up the forum. I’ll be glad to help if I can.

Swamp Rat

[Ever Ready]

Chris P,

As a long time Middle East resident, never actually living in Saudi, but visiting on business countless times, I'd say you may be in for a disappointment about trips to Eritrea.

As a Saudi resident, you have to obtain an “exit / re-entry visa” from your sponsor just to be able to leave the country. That depends how friendly / helpful / influential your sponsor is. This may mot be your immediate boss, but the Saudi national sponsoring the company. These rules apply whether you’re looking at a longer break, or even a 1-day / weekend hop across the causeway to Bahrain, where there is plenty of action – (read the report section). You’re lucky, as a Brit, you tend to be treated a bit better than the “other” nationalities / colours etc - seems wrong, but in Saudi, that’s the unwritten rules of the situation.

Where will you be stationed in Saudi? It’s a f***ing long drive / 1.5 hour flight from Riyadh to the Red Sea coast (Jeddah / Yanbu etc). If you happen to be stationed in Jeddah, well you could enquire about a ferry service to Eritrea, but I’d put money on there not being anything. There’s no way you’d be allowed to simply take your car across anyway. From Jeddah to East coast (Al Khobar / Jubail / Dammam) it’s a 2.5 hr flight – this is a BIG country man!

If you want my personal opinion for what it’s worth, get in with the local expat scene as quickly as possible. Saudi being the hell-hole that it is, the Brits stick together and network well. There can be at times a riotous “underground” social scene, all inside private compounds. The country is loaded with single foreign nurses and airhostesses from UK, Ireland, Far East, all closely guarded in their living quarters, but (so I’m reliably told) they manage to “escape” regularly to attend parties etc. However, don’t forget that single guys heavily outnumber single girls, so availability isn’t always easy.
At first glance, Saudi is pretty dead. No (legal) bars, clubs, cinemas, nothing! Male / female segregation in public, It's like going back in time a few hundred years! But illegal "sid" and home brew is abundant - just don't get caught.

Best to keep your head down, hope some radical crack-pot doesn’t take you for an American, as things are pretty dire for them at the moment, work hard, earn shit loads of money (that’s why you’re there, not for the suntan!), and if you’re lucky you’ll get the occasional bit of pussy, or resort to making regular use of Mary Palm & her Five Lovely Daughters.

Try to escape to Dubai or Bahrain for a long weekend a few times a year. Hit Dubai in November for the Rugby Sevens – one of the wilder weekends in the Dubai calendar. Another thing, (nothing to do with the availability of pussy), but Jeddah / Red Sea has some of the best Scuba Diving in the world. If you’re that way inclined, do it. I’ve dived there a few times, and it is amazing! – Go for it!. There are several good dive clubs with good quality training and kit rentals.

If / when you get settled in Saudi, send me a PM, and maybe on one of my trips there, we’ll meet up for a glass of mango juice – keep your sense of humour, and you’ll survive, inshallah! Good Luck!

PS – I’d agree that Ethiopian / Eritrean girls can be beautiful, but a word of warning – most refuse to suck! – Against their culture or some bullshit like that.