Burma vs. Laos

[Cactus J]

Biz,

Great report! Thanks!

Cactus J

[Biz99]

Back now from Yangon and wanted to thank those who provided me good quality information which made everything easier. Because I am standing on those shoulders I feel obligated to take the time to do this report. Just to short-circuit the PMs – I have no contact information for the girls in this report – sorry.

Just to fill in the context, I live in Thailand and travelled to Burma with a friend who has been there twice before. On one of those trips he used the services of a guide and we had him around for a part of our time there, but I really do not think that he added real value and my friend was disappointed in his services as well. I do not have his contact information as I would not suggest that you need a guide, or at least one like this guy. Waiters and mama sans speak enough English for you to get your point across. If you look like you know what is going on by having a price range in your mind, negotiation is not too difficult.

Stayed at the Panorama and it was fine, although there is a pretty large difference among some of the rooms. My friend had a room which looked like it had been updated lately, while mine was a bit shop worn but fine nonetheless. There was a bit of a problem getting two rooms with king beds, as they tried to give us both singles initially. For what we paid, the Panorama is well located and fairly priced at $22 dollars. No issue bringing in girls, although they have to sign in at the front desk.

In the area just around the overpass directly in front of the hotel there were some massage dragons at all times, and at one point a gaggle of young things many of whom were quite doable. I was talking to another girl on the street and when they saw I was preoccupied, they wandered off. But I am sure that they were available for a tour of the hotel room, just unsure what the asking price might have been.

I saw one other cutie in front of one of the theatres who made flirty expressions, but I was just at the beginning of my walk through the area and when I returned she was gone.

The first night we went to a couple of places in Chinatown – one is a second floor karaoke place where the girls will sing one song like in Thailand. People would buy a garland for 2,000 kyat (1350 kyat to the USD – only bring grade A 100 dollar bills to get the best rate). Food okay, but no air on the terrace and only half of the fans working, so not too comfortable.
We moved over to the Palace and it was early – 7:30 p.m. on a Friday night, but the selection was top notch. When I sat down I picked two girls to sit with me – small, sweet and sexy. In little time, I had decided that the suggestion that one girl made – pointing to her, me, and her little friend and saying One, Two,Three – was a good plan.

Before too long, the mama san running these two girls came over to talk price. The guide chatted with them and the 35,000 ask pretty quickly became 28,000 (around $20 USD each) and I told him to stop negotiating. I could have surely gotten the price down further, but I had plans for a lot of drilling and I suspected that they were going to earn the 28k. I left early, and later my buddy pulled one for 25k later and lined up another for an afternoon session the next day (both he said were good and the afternoon session showed up on time, so I think that this could be a solution to people who want some daytime action).

My two said that they were 18 and I am pretty sure that they were not any older – firm rubbery bodies, no sag or evidence of children. No babies! Was one of the first things out of their mouths.

Back at the room we had some three way action going for a while, but when it got hotter one retired to the bathroom while her partner took the work. When she came out of the bathroom, I had her come back to the bed where I could play with her perfect breasts for while and before too long she got her first test. This one would provide oral, but Burmese girls tend to shy away from giving blow jobs, although 2/3 of my sample did an adequate job.

I ordered some food from them seeing as we got such an early start and I did not want them to lose strength. After eating, girl number one got her second chance to win my heart – a very tiny, sexy body with just a few strands of hair on a fresh clean pussy. In my limited sample, I would say that the Burmese are a little down the hygiene scale from the Thai women, but just a notch. The best part is that there are no cell phones, few tattoos and piercings and you feel as though you may not be the first guy, but you are not holding number 1,000 either. Girl number two got her second chance later on, and the first girl got another lap in the middle of the night, but no completion on that one.

They both left early in the morning, which was fine with me, as I needed some sleep. In fact, I held their money and the door open to pay them on the way out. The interesting thing was that they brought a change of clothes and they left in such conservative dress they did not look like the same girls. One had a peasant style dress down to the floor and the other looked like a Japanese school girl outfit.

During the day we toured around markets and a pagoda and came back in time for my friend’s afternoon visitor.
That night we met up with another of the guide’s clients – an American from Thailand and his friend from Singapore. After a “get to know each other” dinner, we headed off to JJs for the fashion show. It was packed, and there were some really cute girls, but they seemed to get garlands pretty quickly and ended up sitting with others. The freelancers seemed to me to be less than the Palace girls and it was unbelievably smoky. Not too sure what kind of shit they put in Burmese cigarettes, but it smells like goat.

We got out of JJs with one of us having chosen a freelancer and the rest of us heading to the Music Club in the basement of the Park Royal hotel. Five dollar cover (versus 3,000 kyat at Palace) and the whole place had what one buddy described as a “high class Nana Disco Vibe” and it remind me a bit of Angels in the Nana Hotel. It was a good description even though much more upscale, better lighting and some nicer girls; it was still a bit too much professional for me, so I passed. I can get the same experience in Thailand and was looking for something different.

We visited the big pagoda in the afternoon of day two and it is a must see attraction - really amazing.

The final night we went to 911 and the music was just too much techno at too many decibels. The freelancers were the worst we had seen, so we went across to Emperor. The music was not great there either, so it was back to the Palace.

As soon as we got there, I saw two real cuties and latched onto them for cuddle dolls while we watched the fashion show. Some cute girls, but less than the JJ show, but seemingly attracting less garlands. I was told that both girls were18, but one told me that the other was her 16 year old sister, so I stuck with the 18 year old who had an amazing body and a very nice face. I tipped the younger sister 2,000 kyat and the mama came to me and said $30 dollars for the older sister.

I said 30,000 kyat and ended up giving her 35k after three very satisfying rounds including some capable oral. Had to boot her out as we were leaving for the early flight on Air Asia.

Air Asia was good and cheap (about $85 round trip, all in on one of their many promotions). Panorama was fine, but if I am back soon I am going to try Traders I think. Girls were really good – fresh off the farm so great bodies and good attitudes, but not especially creative technique. I miss being able to talk to them a bit, but I think if you choose older girls you will get more English. I wanted the young firm bodies and was very satisfied with the ones I had. My buddy was equally pleased and we will go back, no doubt.

Not totally clear on the sim card deal – we were quoted 2,100 USD at a phone shop, but that night my taxi driver had a cell phone and his car was worth about 500 bucks. There must be a black market of some sort for sim cards or something.

Again, thanks to the information providers who helped my trip success.

[Cactus J]

Franck,

I have never tried to phone, only use email to contact my office, can be frustrating but works. Got my cell info from travel agent who was a resident of Burma before moving to London and now Bangkok.

Cactus J

[Batman]

Anyone planning to be in Rangoon around the 2nd of October? I will be there 2 nights and looking to have a cold beer or 2.

[Sakaundeh]

So, to phone from Yangon to Thailand is it easy?

Many hotels have IDD phones so it is possible to call from Yangon to other countries but the rates are quite expensive. Eg, to call Singapore and Thailand it would be around $5 USD a minute; Australia - $7 USD a minute.

And I presume that nobody can reach you from Thailand to Yangon by phone?

I call people in Myanmar (Burma) frequently but the quality of the connection varies. Sometimes you can get through without any problems, sometimes you may need to dial again after a few minutes. Calling major hotels shouldn't be a problem. The country code is 95 and the area code for Yangon is 1.

[Franckbon]

Hi Cactus,

I will be in Yangon next month,actually I am in Thailand,and I would like to know how it's possible to give some news to my family staying in Thailand.

So, to phone from Yangon to Thailand is it easy? And I presume that nobody can reach you from Thailand to Yangon by phone? Thanks for information.

[Cactus J]

Toronto,

Yes you can rent clubs,we choose not to but they are available. Quality, I don't know but would bet on poor as this is a very poor country. Last year I did make advance reservations on Air Asia and will again this year as when 5 guys are travelling together you would not be happy to be left behind. Air Asia's reservation system is very good, not like Nok. You must have passport name exactly and # but not much more than that. Most welcome!

Cactus J

[Cactus J]

Franck,

A SIM card in Burma will cost about $ 2000.00 so when you see the kids in the bars with them you know their parents have money. To the best of my knowledge there is nothing short of spending that much to get access to their poor cellular system.

Cactus J

[Toronto]

Cactus J,

Thanks for the info. Speaking of golf, do you know if I can just rent the clubs at the course rather than having to haul mine around? And I'm assuming I don't need to make advance reservations for the flight from BKK to Rangoon. Thanks again for the help.

[Franckbon]

Hi,

Is it possible to buy in Yangon a smart card with a number (as you can buy in Thailand or Philippines,etc..), so you can call with your mobile everywhere?

[Nuw At Mat]

Anyone in Rangoon around 20-30 Sept?

[Cactus J]

# 1453 Tried to PM you.

Will be there Jan 14 to 20. Busy golfing but you would be welcome to join us for diner one evening.

Cactus J

[Cactus J]

Toronto,

Yes I am from Canada. Going from Bangkok by Air Asia, they fly every morning early for about $ 100.00 return. They have new 737s, no seat selection. You need to be aware that there is a bagage limit of 30 lbs and you have to pay an excessive overage charge. I just take my clubs and very little clothing in a carryon. Laundry in the Panorama hotel is almost free and same day. The very best airline is EVA go with their Evergreen Deluxe Class, it is a business class seat in economy. Cost is about $ 160.00 return extra. Unfortunately the Deluxe seats sell out over Christmas almost a year in advance.. When I tried to book 2 months ago the latest I could get a Deluxe seat was Dec 6. I am going Air Canada but it is really substandard compared with EVA even economy, Singapore or Cathay. Air Canada's big advantage is they have the closest connections from my prarie home, 24 hours in total each way. The first time I went we had a package from Canada one with 19 days for $ 1700 with time in Bangkok and Pattaya, tours transfers and hotel included, you could extend for very reasonable cost. If I can be of help just ask.

Cactus J

[Toronto]

In Canada the visa costs $ 30.00.

Cactus J

Cactus J,

I'm assuming you're from Canada. If so, are you getting there via Bangkok? And have you found better pricing than Air Canada? I'm trying to plan a trip for Xmas/NY time. Thanks.

[Member #1453]

Cactus J, they're much cheaper rates than those booked online! So much for internet discount pricing! I'll be there as well for the New Year ... let me know if you'll be around then and we can meet up. There's nothing better than waking up on New Years day with a couple of Burmese pussies purrrrring beside you!

Hi Bro,

I will be there too in early Jan. Let us meet up.