Phnom Penh

[LifeIsABeach]

Sorry to that a young in shape 30 year old Soulbrother was constantly rejected. Things must have changed a lot since I went there about 2 years ago and had no issues. I am also twice his age. He seemed to make some newbie mistakes and not be upfront with the women on the services and the price. I am also in shape, dress well, smell good. Look good and treat the women with respect. Also, I rarely buy women ladies drinks. I was getting shags from between $15-20. I might pop over later this year and see what is going on.

[Muzungufotsy]

I fully agree Soulbrother. Even Pattaya is better value these days.

PP was great 10 years ago when you could fuck for 5 $ a pop and even less.

These days it has been spoiled by Asian customers and guys coming from Thailand who don't discuss prices and act like pussies in front of hookers.

See the result girls asking these days 3 weeks salary for a 5 mn shag!

What a joke!

[SoulBrother]

Well I just came back from Phnom Penh, and the things got a lot worse then they were earlier.

Night 1.

Went to the Butterfly Bar on the 136 Street at about 8 pm, not many customers but some hot chicks were inside, a pair of 8-8. 5 and several 7's, rest mediocre.

After some drinking a bought a lady drink for the one of the hotties, and went to play pool with her. After an hour or so and several lady drinks asked her if she wanted to come with me. And got rejected.

Bill=20 $ for drinks.

I said to myself OK fuck it I go to another one, so I went to the Pascha Bar, 7 or 9 girls inside, no customers.

All chicks are mediocre and 2 or 3 in their late 40 s, one was a 7.

Ordered a drink, and a lady drink to the 7 and asked her to go with me, so far so good, paid barfine 15 $ and the drinks 7-7.5 $.

So we went to the hotel, started the session and after 5 minutes she cummed, went to the bathroom to dress, and demanded 50 $.

I made the same mistake as the previous poster and haven't discussed the price beforehand, so we had some drama and in the end I gave her 40 and said to go away.

So in the end I spent like 80-100 $ that night, and got my dick barely wet.

All other nights were almost in the same manner, I go to a bar and try to barfine the hot ones and get rejected, those who went with me to the hotel start asking for 50 $ even after we cleared the price beforehand.

I am in my 30's, good looking and not fat, I also spent 2 weeks in Pattaya prior to Phnom Penh and hat a blast there for less money and without any hustle.

Here not only you are expected nowadays to overpay them, but in the end you don't even get any service for your money.

In order to get normal service and normal price, you have to act like a piece of crap, be strict and dominant, else they will fuck you over in a second.

Alone the fact that you have to "guess" who is up to go to fuck with you, is a complete bullshit.

My recommendation is to stay away from Phnom Penh, and spend your time in Pattaya.

Phnom Penh might be good for those who like to endless fights over the payment, service and so on. But for people who want it to go stress free, I think it would be better to spend your time elsewhere.

[Forever69]

However from what I see now many of the girls have become hard nosed pushy and grabbing.

That is unfortunately true and might get us straight to the decent, I know how to spell it, the decent working girl.

Now what is a decent wore? (I know how to spell that too, but one's not allowed).

Later I might inquire about honest politicians, safe investments or blissful old age or other strange euphemisms though.

A decent pool player is not somebody who doesn't drop the pants or refuses to shake hands with the opponent, it is somebody who can hit the ball.

What Lonely wants printed out is just a decent human being. Common courtesy. Nice try nevertheless.

[Riverstar]

I recommend printing this out and keeping it in your wallet. A monger is first a Gentleman. He realizes that girls selling their bodies in the third world don't do so because of low moral character but from poverty. She is likely supporting a child, parents or both. She deserves respect for the sacrifices she is making for her family. I doubt many in the West would do the same. She should be treated like the lady she would really like to be.

Don't put your arm around her or kiss her in public. That is rarely done in the third world and marks her as a working girl.

Try to learn a few words of the language and the culture. I have found that the more of the local language I speak, the more fun I have.

I always keep in mind that the pretty babe bouncing up and down on my floppy disc is giving me more pleasure than anything else in the World.

I couldn't agree with you more.

My mongering days in Cambodia are largely over as I am happy with my long time girlfriend although I do dabble a little when I am out of the country. My mongering days were mainly between 2003-2009 when there were far fewer girls and bars in Phnom Penh and during that time I met some lovely girls some of who became and remain good friends. I remember one regular friend asking me to have sex with a friend of hers as she could do with the money and another paying for a expensive meal when I went to the toilet (we are still together).

However from what I see now many of the girls have become hard nosed pushy and grabbing.

[Aussie Fella]

I recommend printing this out and keeping it in your wallet. A monger is first a Gentleman. He realizes that girls selling their bodies in the third world don't do so because of low moral character but from poverty. She is likely supporting a child, parents or both. She deserves respect for the sacrifices she is making for her family. I doubt many in the West would do the same. She should be treated like the lady she would really like to be.

Don't put your arm around her or kiss her in public. That is rarely done in the third world and marks her as a working girl.

Try to learn a few words of the language and the culture. I have found that the more of the local language I speak, the more fun I have.

I always keep in mind that the pretty babe bouncing up and down on my floppy disc is giving me more pleasure than anything else in the World.

Ignoring the rather pretentious opening sentence, I think you do make some reasonable points. Yes, we are the customer and paying for a service, but that's no excuse for disrespecting the girls who are (hopefully) giving us great pleasure. Although there are definitely many working girls who choose to do this line of work due to the relatively large amount of money they can earn for fairly easy work, I'm sure that a significant number would rather be doing another job if they were able to get it. Anything we can do to help them keep their self-respect is important. Of course, respect needs to go both ways.

[Aussie Fella]

Would you care to explain what is a descent monger?

I was thinking it may be a monger who's into abseiling.

[Betong]

He realizes that girls selling their bodies in the third world . . .

It probably also helps to remember that she's not selling, she's just renting.

[Lonely566]

Would you care to explain what is a descent monger?

I recommend printing this out and keeping it in your wallet. A monger is first a Gentleman. He realizes that girls selling their bodies in the third world don't do so because of low moral character but from poverty. She is likely supporting a child, parents or both. She deserves respect for the sacrifices she is making for her family. I doubt many in the West would do the same. She should be treated like the lady she would really like to be.

Don't put your arm around her or kiss her in public. That is rarely done in the third world and marks her as a working girl.

Try to learn a few words of the language and the culture. I have found that the more of the local language I speak, the more fun I have.

I always keep in mind that the pretty babe bouncing up and down on my floppy disc is giving me more pleasure than anything else in the World.

[Forever69]

The poster I was referring to was bragging about getting it for free. He and his attitude should be shunned by all .

Would you care to explain what is a descent monger?

[Lonely566]

Lonely566 posts: "I find this distressing. Bragging about cheating a destitute girl out of her earned money is bizarre and disgusting. " I assume the thread that Lonely566 is referring to has been deleted already. I read this forum regularly, and see no cause for his disgust. Pay the local rate for the quality of girl and services offered. When you go to another more expensive place, there you can have the honor of paying a higher rate for whatever is offered. In Phnom Penh I offer 20 to 40 for ST or LT depending on my availability and the girl's look and attitude. She is not being cheated, because the local rate here is not $200 per hour.

The poster I was referring to was bragging about getting it for free. He and his attitude should be shunned by all descent mongers.

[NspectHerGadgt]

Lonely566 posts: "I find this distressing. Bragging about cheating a destitute girl out of her earned money is bizarre and disgusting. " I assume the thread that Lonely566 is referring to has been deleted already. I read this forum regularly, and see no cause for his disgust. Pay the local rate for the quality of girl and services offered. When you go to another more expensive place, there you can have the honor of paying a higher rate for whatever is offered. In Phnom Penh I offer 20 to 40 for ST or LT depending on my availability and the girl's look and attitude. She is not being cheated, because the local rate here is not $200 per hour.

[Kniom]

What's GSM?

GSM = Golden Sorya Mall, 51st Str /172nd Str.

[Pinche Gringo]

Well said. To many in the hobby have the attitude to try to pay rock bottom prices and are not happy unless they do. A $5 savings for us is nothing in the grand scheme, but for some of these girls means the world to them and / or their families they are supporting.

"I just spent the better part of two weeks in Phnom Penh, and I'm sorry to say that I didn't spend a lot of time in girl bars. In fact, I only took one bar girl home the whole time. Khmer girls are hot and awesome, and I've got some charisma so I managed to get a couple of nice girls without any P4P."

I find this distressing. A guy that will happily pay outrageous hotel bills to a large corporation but then cheats a poor girl, probably supporting her family; out of her pussy money! Bragging about cheating a destitute girl out of her earned money is bizarre and disgusting. In my monger career I have had many girls refuse money. I insist. If they still refuse to take my money I sneak it into their purse. Please don't cheat these girls. They bring us so much joy. They deserve much more than we can pay. I love them and respect them and letting them waste a work night for desperately needed money, just pisses me off, as it would any gentleman.

[Lonely566]

"I just spent the better part of two weeks in Phnom Penh, and I'm sorry to say that I didn't spend a lot of time in girl bars. In fact, I only took one bar girl home the whole time. Khmer girls are hot and awesome, and I've got some charisma so I managed to get a couple of nice girls without any P4P."

I find this distressing. A guy that will happily pay outrageous hotel bills to a large corporation but then cheats a poor girl, probably supporting her family; out of her pussy money! Bragging about cheating a destitute girl out of her earned money is bizarre and disgusting. In my monger career I have had many girls refuse money. I insist. If they still refuse to take my money I sneak it into their purse. Please don't cheat these girls. They bring us so much joy. They deserve much more than we can pay. I love them and respect them and letting them waste a work night for desperately needed money, just pisses me off, as it would any gentleman.