Phnom Penh

[RjToons]

Hello.

Right now I am in Pattaya and planning to go to Cambodia for a week and back to Pattaya. I need the help regarding hotel to stay and enjoy with girlfriends. As I read the thread there are several places and streets for action in Phenom Penh. Which is the best place to stay like Pattaya beach road? Easy to get the girls and no hassle? I would really appreciate the response from seniors and Phenom Penh experienced one and all. Thanks.

[Cucumber]

I stayed in the Sun and Moon Hotel on 136 Street, known by locals (who often didn't understand which hotel I was talking about) as "Sunmoon". The rooftop pool has a nice setting, but is a little short for laps (ca 16 m), but ok for light swimming. The hotel requires all guests to present original ID and register upon entry. If one has not booked the room for two people, there is a surcharge for the guest.

The hotel is right in the middle of the biggest action. Lots of girlie bars. Not really my kind of thing, because you have to walk a lot, there is a lot of bait and switch (prettiest girls outside to lure you in, but they won't go home with you) and difficult to get an overview of where the girls you really like are. But the sum of all the bars is a lot of girls, and there are some gems among them.

Prices are not low. USD 50 for girl, 10 for barfine, and often it would turn out the girl didn't have an ID (in spite of me asking her in advance), so 10-15 for a short-time hotel.

But a great grungy atmosphere walking around the streets.

On the last night I made it to Cyrcee. They only took 40 USD for the girl and 10 (USD for barfine. Great lineup, not a single other customer in there, some very cute and friendly girls. Three of them massaged me for 15 minutes trying to get me to choose them. The spinner I finally choose was one of my two best lays in Phnom Penh.

[MikeM488]

Hi a few brief comments re this 1. See heading. Prob very unlucky if this happens but see point 2, 3 etc.

If you go hunting for young girls (you know what I mean) increases likelihood.

Found that although young ones are good for ego slightly older in safe range 20 - 28 give better perf.

Some in 20 - 28 range look young so.

If it looks like a scam walk straight away. Anything that doesn't seem just right. Walk - there are plenty others. Use your radar.

I deal direct with girls. Pimps for me = trouble. (not always but "cut out the middle man".

ID's can be fake but check if worried then ask questions like so what year were you born? When did you turn 18? Etc etc. You are smarter than then. Any hesitation = walk. Classic one tell them you can tell how old they are by the length from the wrist to the elbow (BS) tell you have medical training. See how much they protest. You are smarter than them remember.

Be careful of " can my sister come too" or doing doubles.

Pick up from bars and established places not FL or pimps.

Don't drink / smoke too much. Keep your wits about you.

Main thing is always keep your radar up and monitoring- as said before if it looks not right = walk. Remember you always hear about the plane crashes not the hundreds that fly safely every day.

NI.

Just a little advice from somebody who has put in 60 days a year for ten years in the Philippines and then 120 days the last five years. If you think the girls is under 18. Don't go there. 90% chance she probably is. I can spot them and will just move on to other hundreds or thousands of girls. If you are not sure. Take a photo of the ID. It could be fake. So that is no guarantee. But it is better than no photo.

Not an expert on Cambodian ID. But the Philippines just pass a new law that make a national ID mandatory. Of course knowing the Philippines that will take three years to issue.

Under American law. Doesn't matter what the country allow on age. It is 18 minimum for United State citizen.

[DingoD]

Mate-I appreciate that you might be shy or lack confidence, but don't confuse this site with a dating site. As much as I and most other posters on the forum might think I have the charm, body and looks of Chris Hemsworth, it's the money in your pocket that these girls are interested in, so your lack of so-called "game" is irrelevant if you have the right amount of money to pay the right girl for whatever it is you are looking for.

Don't confuse dating with banging. Read the forum, take a deep breath, order a strong drink if that helps you and enter one of the 100 hostess bars and see if you can find yourself a good time, but expect to pay. Unless you are the ugly Hemsworth brother??

Have fun and be sure to post your outcomes.

DingoD.

I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

My review of a few places.

Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?

[WrongGuy]

Just wondering what is Thai friendly equivalent for Cambodia. I am visiting PP for a week. Have had a bit of success at thaifriendly for BKK and Pattaya but none for Cambodia.

Thanks.

[Paolo99]

P.S. - For folks who are absolutely gameless, there are massage shops like 252 Massa and LE Cyrcee, but you probably know about that already.

I'm pretty sure that he will not be comfortable in LE Cyrcee with many girls rounding you once you enter the place, and he will probably be scammed at 252 because he wouldn't take the step to talk about payment to the girl before going up in the room.

It seems to me that he doesn't want to pay also, but if he is willing to pay I would say the best thing to meet girls is not discos but bars on the riverside.

It's surely intimidating for a shy guy to go there alone when all the girls are already there, so the best thing in my opinion would be to go in any of the bars in the evening (around 5 or 6), pretend to be there just for the happy hour, and then when the girls will slowly arrive at work they will notice him and make the first move without intimidating him. And if he doesn't like the girls in that bar, just have a look at which girl looks good in other bars and go and sit in that bar the next days until he finds one that he likes.

[Forever69]

Billy.

I can give you a very good hint.

But I will not post it here it is a smaller venue. PM me.

When you can.

[Blanquiceleste]

I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

My review of a few places.

Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?

By design a nightclub is a place where one socializes meets new people that might lead to other things. Freelancers working in nightclubs are there for one reason only. Money in exchange for sex. So having game or no game in nightclubs which are known for hosting working girls is irrelevant.

You say the music in DD is way too loud, while you find the music at Pontoon acceptable? Most folks would think the other way round. DD is classy, Pontoon is a dive. In all the times that I have been to DD not once as a girl asked me for money to sit with me or talk to me. And I am not Chinese or Korean. The MO is as simple as it gets. Grab a beer at the bar, scan the place for talent that appeals to you. Find one, talk to her and make the deal. $100ST is the norm, although some folks claim to pay lesser or higher. No judgment. Pontoon OTOH does not get going before 1 am. The place is full of cheap twatpackers trying to land a freebie. I can't see the fun in waiting up till 3 am to pick up a drunk chick.

Not sure if you have read the thread here, but there are several clubs that have been mentioned and reviewed by seasoned forum members.

P.S. - For folks who are absolutely gameless, there are massage shops like 252 Massa and LE Cyrcee, but you probably know about that already.

[BillyJ]

I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

My review of a few places.

Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?

[LoveVegas]

Okay Boutique is a sort of family hotel. They have good swimming pool on terrace. You can get in house Massage (even in your room) . And easily a HJ from massager.

Point Hotel. It on st. 130 where the all the night action happens. They have a bar on terrace. Easy to bring girl in the room.

Thanks for your post good info. I'm staying at the point hotel next month.

[Skyboy23]

I have tried many girls in Phnom Penh:

1. St 130 Girls.

2. Disco Bar girls.

3. Darlin Darlin, Naga World Girls.

Generally.

1. St. 130 Girls USD 30-60. Plus Bar fine. Ok Ok types girls.

2. Disco Bar Girls. A bit better than St 130 girls. (Freelancers).

3. Darlin Darlin Girls. Best of all the Phnom Penh Girls I could Spot. - Price Starts USD 100. Some girls even demand USD 200.

I prefer to take the Darlin Darlin girls. They are Sexy but downside is their tantrums.

Sky Boy.

[Skyboy23]

Okay Boutique is a sort of family hotel. They have good swimming pool on terrace. You can get in house Massage (even in your room) . And easily a HJ from massager.

Point Hotel. It on st. 130 where the all the night action happens. They have a bar on terrace. Easy to bring girl in the room.

Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.

[Nazgylg15]

Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?

I heard some nasty stuff about touristy getting into trouble from my tuk tuk guy. WG had trapped them with drugs. I know the tuk tuk guys talk a lot of shit, but it sounded scary.

[Nazgylg15]

Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.

Okay boutique is good and GF. But when I stayed, there were lot of families and young couples staying at the hotel. Got HJ from couple of masseurs that work in house at Okay boutique.

[NewImage]

Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?

Hi a few brief comments re this 1. See heading. Prob very unlucky if this happens but see point 2, 3 etc.

If you go hunting for young girls (you know what I mean) increases likelihood.

Found that although young ones are good for ego slightly older in safe range 20 - 28 give better perf.

Some in 20 - 28 range look young so.

If it looks like a scam walk straight away. Anything that doesn't seem just right. Walk - there are plenty others. Use your radar.

I deal direct with girls. Pimps for me = trouble. (not always but "cut out the middle man".

ID's can be fake but check if worried then ask questions like so what year were you born? When did you turn 18? Etc etc. You are smarter than then. Any hesitation = walk. Classic one tell them you can tell how old they are by the length from the wrist to the elbow (BS) tell you have medical training. See how much they protest. You are smarter than them remember.

Be careful of " can my sister come too" or doing doubles.

Pick up from bars and established places not FL or pimps.

Don't drink / smoke too much. Keep your wits about you.

Main thing is always keep your radar up and monitoring- as said before if it looks not right = walk. Remember you always hear about the plane crashes not the hundreds that fly safely every day.

NI.