Phnom Penh

[Member #4673]

Which bars did you go to in Pattaya? I have lived in Pattaya for over 4 years now and I have NEVER sat in a bar with girls "mostly 50 year and older". Why would I when there are so many options around. Been in 100's of bars with girls in their 20's. Looking for some intel in case I have a visitor looking for a GMILF.

Pattaya is dead for mongering.

I also live there for 4 years now.

[Banana Boi]

First Pattaya bar girls are mostly 50 year and older but also here under a close inspection only here and there a few are young and pretty but way better then Pattaya.

Which bars did you go to in Pattaya? I have lived in Pattaya for over 4 years now and I have NEVER sat in a bar with girls "mostly 50 year and older". Why would I when there are so many options around. Been in 100's of bars with girls in their 20's. Looking for some intel in case I have a visitor looking for a GMILF.

[Perennial]

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[Perennial]

So when you walk within the Neon lights everything look amazing and attractive but when I was trying to actually getting a girl thing become a bit more complex. I would say not worth for most guys to come here for mongering unless you are PP expert, But the overall package is a bit not feel quite comfortable. So if you ready to monger in this garbage everywhere dirty slum city and you have specific PP mongering experience then yes girls look much better and younger then Thailand.

A study in comparative mongering. Great. I like your description of PP. Lowest level of human cooperation other than India I have witnessed. Yet there are very good people there, smart, hard working and studying. And so little good advice, capital, student support, good mentoring. As far as effort is concerned, I somehow pulled off sterling mongering experiences anyway. Give PP a chance, especially if you already know Thai.

[Perennial]

Day after I moved to hotel next to HOD and Panton but this are for nightlife is even worst. All bars are dead but at least I can take Grab TukTuk for 3200 rial to 136st area. Also same mountain of trash all over PP this will never change. My hotel was super good for 25 usd per night without bed bugs as some hotels in 136 area. Equivalent class room in 136 is 60 USD as opposed to 25 USD.

Can you specify the hotel name? Girl friendly? I overspent on hotel last time. Thanks.

[Member #4673]

Arrived few days ago prom BKK for the purpose of getting a visa took a 3 Dollar TukTuk from outside the Airport terminal and went to 136 to look for hotel. At night I was trying hard to see if there is a difference between Thai girls bar in Pattaya and 136 etc bars girls.

Conclusion? Confusing thoughts. First Pattaya bar girls are mostly 50 year and older but also here under a close inspection only here and there a few are young and pretty but way better then Pattaya. So after one hour of window shopping (without entering inside) I saw one super cute but she was not for take out. Instead they offer me less attractive girls. Also some girls in the sitting front to the street can't speak a word. From 11 pm many LB all over some claiming they are girls. Some bar girls will ask you to buy drinks before you take them out.

Day after I moved to hotel next to HOD and Panton but this are for nightlife is even worst. All bars are dead but at least I can take Grab TukTuk for 3200 rial to 136st area. Also same mountain of trash all over PP this will never change. My hotel was super good for 25 usd per night without bed bugs as some hotels in 136 area. Equivalent class room in 136 is 60 USD as opposed to 25 USD.

Many place to eat for western food but coffee is expensive here 3 USD. Tonight my last day I will try harder to find a girl that meet my taste. So when you walk within the Neon lights everything look amazing and attractive but when I was trying to actually getting a girl thing become a bit more complex. I would say not worth for most guys to come here for mongering unless you are PP expert, But the overall package is a bit not feel quite comfortable.

So if you ready to monger in this garbage everywhere dirty slum city and you have specific PP mongering experience then yes girls look much better and younger then Thailand.

[Blanquiceleste]

30 is ST price for probably most. 100 is paid without negotiating for LT. Not difficult to get LT for 50-70 for most hostess girls. Hope that helps.

SS.

My experience has been a bit different. For the younger, cuter ones is more like 40-50 for ST (which is usually the norm, at least if you are meeting her for the first time) and 70-80 for LT. You are absolutely correct about 100 being paid is really voluntary. Of course, there are exceptions and most importantly YMMV.

[Sam Sanuk]

When I hear these prices I want to go. But so much conflicting info on ISG. Some guys paying 100 and some paying 30. I know there is the art of negotiating, but 70 difference. Really.

30 is ST price for probably most. 100 is paid without negotiating for LT. Not difficult to get LT for 50-70 for most hostess girls. Hope that helps.

SS.

[Dragonfly22]

What kind of bar has a shift that ends at 3 PM? Most are not even open till the afternoon. If she stayed all the way through till noon the next day you got a bargain. That is 10-12 years ago prices.

SE.

Sorry, I met her at the bar earlier, gave her my hotel and room number. After her shift 3 am she came to my room. Never mentioned money, we had a nice rapoir. At noon I told her I didn't have any cash and would see her later. Gave her $30 an d she never blinked.

[BenPincus]

Had my first 3 nights in PP just a week ago or so. Wanted to add my thoughts here which seem at odds with some of the viewpoints expressed this far.

We found the girls on 135 and 130 to be amazingly warm, friendly and natural. They have an openness, an innocence and a simplicity about them and are incredibly beautiful in the true sense of the word. Their English was generally very good and overall we had some amazing experiences of connection and uber-GFE. We have enjoyed many amazing GFE experiences in Thailand but the Khmer girls arguably take things to another level, with far less commercial or business orientated framework to them. Our Line's have been buzzing continuously since we've been back and we will return very soon without doubt for both repeats and new adventures.

If beauty for you is all about what you can physically look at or you are heavily focused on how many porno tickboxes you can check off for the smallest amount of money then go elsewhere. But if you really like to properly appreciate a women and her spirit, inside and out, and really connect emotionally and physically then PP and the Cambodian women are incredible IMO.

[Lefeu]

...From the little snip above can you name some of the bars that you had fun and hits with at approx 5-6pm??

Cheers.

DingoD.

I don't remember the name of the bars but they were on streets 136 and 130. I just started strolling on street 136 and checking the chicks sitting outside of the bars. At times I went inside the bar, until I found one that I liked and barfined her.

[DingoD]

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It was fairly easy to pick a decent working girl after 4 pm for an afternoon snack. After that, it was time for dinner. I am a foodie and Phnom Penh is great for that.

Nice report, I'll be back in Phnom Penh next week, and due to personal circumstances late afternoon to early evening is usually when I can get away for the most fun play times.

From the little snip above can you name some of the bars that you had fun and hits with at approx 5-6pm??

Cheers.

DingoD.

[Lefeu]

I spent close to 20 days this year in SEA, part of my yearly pilgrimage in Asia. I spent a total of 5 days in Phnom Penh. I flew in from Bangkok and I already had my visa with me, obtained online. Quickly cleared customs, picked up a SIM card at the airport, and was on my way to the hotel. I had reserved a room at the Lux hotel on street 136. I had read so many good reviews on this hotel. Well, I was not too impressed with my room. It looked so dated, unlike the lobby of the hotel. It was on the 5th floor and was facing the bars on the street. It was noisy all night and as a result I could not sleep very well. I eventually got used to the noise but when it was time to leave.

This was my 4th or 5th trip to Phnom Penh and it appeared that the city has not changed much. Big time 3rd world, crammed with people, disorganized. However, it has not lost its charm. I lived as a kid in a similar town, so I quickly adjusted to that environment. I also had to solve the dilemma of what to do during the day. I have been to that city several times and I have done all the tourist activities. I also visited many day time brothels and massage places in the past, and was largely disappointed. So, I did not bother with these venues on this trip. Somehow, I quickly developed a routine. In the morning, I would leave my room around 9 am or later, straight to Eric Kayser for breakfast. There I would easily spend 2 to 3 hours lounging around. Afterwards, I would take a long walk for about one hour, then time for my afternoon nap. I would wake up around 4 pm. Back to the bakery for an afternoon cappuccino. Then time for a tour of the bars, paying close attention to the girls lounging outside, as well as those coming in to work.

By 6 pm it was time for my first punt. As I have done in the past, I went straight to Cyrcee on street 130. This was one of my favorite routine in the past. Unfortunately, it did not go as well this time around, as the quality was missing. So, I never went back to Cyrcee, instead relying on bar patrons. It was fairly easy to pick a decent working girl after 4 pm for an afternoon snack. After that, it was time for dinner. I am a foodie and Phnom Penh is great for that. Quite a bit of decent French food, my favorite, at reasonable prices. After dinner, I took a walk along the river. Strangely though, this was the second time that I was approached by a well dressed lady who spoke decent English, and who wanted to know about US universities. Supposedly their nephew was planning to go study abroad in the US, in my hometown and the parents were concerned about that and wanted to learn more. That person tried to persuade me to go with her to the family house. I smelled a rat and managed to get out of it this time as well. I requested that the family member meets me in a public place close to my hotel. It never happened.

By 10 pm, I was ready for the main event, trying to hook up a big fish. In addition to being a foodie, I am also a big sucker for eye candy. Nothing in PP spells eye candy better for me than Darlin Darlin at Nagaworld. A $2 tuk tuk ride and I was there in 15 minutes. I suspected that the place would be relatively quiet given the corona virus scare, and indeed that was the case. I've also been reading the PP forum lately and I stumbled onto the well written reports by Blanqui. In one of them, he talked about the FLs at the coffee shop in Nagaworld. I never knew they existed, so I followed his directions and sure enough I ended up right there in the middle of a pack of hungry FLs. I started to look like a deer in the headlight. I usually prefer to look at girls from a distance before I am ready to pounce on one of them. This time, I looked like the prey. These girls can smell blood and I looked like the perfect lamb that night. One of them would not even let me get close to the pack but moved quickly towards me, waving her hands as if saying, me, me, take me. I was flustered, especially given that I noticed some of them looked like LBs (Lady Boys). I wanted nothing to do with that. So, I came up with an excuse, just looking for my friend and did a quick retreat.

After a quick you-turn, I headed straight to Darlin Darlin, my original objective. I was pleased as there were plenty of eye candy, hardly any men, and none of the women looked like LBs. I ordered a beer and chilled. Within 20 min, I identified my target and quickly moved in. It looked like she was waiting for that. She initially asked for $200 but we quickly settled for $100 for ST and we exited the place. Another tuk tuk ride and we were back at the hotel. She stayed for an hour and I quickly crashed after that. This was repeated every night, as I am a creature of habit.

[Blanquiceleste]

For my last few days in PP before going back home

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I will be stuck with the over priced shitty service here in North America for a while.

Great sign off report. Thank you.

I did bar hop one night 104 to 136 and was mostly disappointed.

YMMV, but that sucks.

[YngMong]

For my last few days in PP before going back home I stayed at the Marriott to spoil myself a bit. Still close enough but away from the bustle. No issues with guests as long as they have ID.

My biggest advice for first timers is download grab or pass app I was using tuk tuks first week I was there and you are getting ripped off. I never paid more than 4300 riel a bit over a dollar with grab. Was always super easy to get one and best you don't need to try and explain where you are going. I paid 11,000 back to the airport vs 10 usd most guys want. If they were good I would tip 2-4 K and they were very happy.

Last few days in PP were chill. First night back went to Black Pearl as I was going to BF a girl that had been giving me attention on my previous visit and although she was a butter face seemed like would be good GFE. After a few drinks for me and her was ready to go and she made up some excuse can't go tonight. Maybe tomorrow. Told her to go fuck yourself. Still like the bar cheap happy hour non pushy girls and pool table the bartender is a super cutie but sense she is not the barfine type. Tired after a 9 hour bus ride back to PP went back to Cyrcee where I have not been disappointed. The little inked blonde **** and her cousin where there so could of taken them but this one girl who definitely did not stand out by any means caught my eye for reasons unknown. Asked the owner if she was good as his advice was good before. Bar was closing had to make my decision fast. Took her to the st hotel nearby 7 usd as was not sure about my hotel being GF yet. Was clean. Let's just say she one me over, I took her for the rest of my four nights. Total GFE, ddddfk, sloppy bbj nothing was left on the table all holes were open. Of course YMMV, I didn't bother trying to negotiate and bought her food and drinks. Her English was very good. I think by the time I was suppose to leave she had grown attached I felt bad cause it is a fucked up country but can't let them play head games. I asked her if she minded me posting her name here she wasn't keen so I abided. All I can say is think to the ending of India Jones and the last crusade. Don't always go for the most flashy cup.

I stand by Cyrcee as the best place to go. As some others have said the GFE gets left at the bar but for most part that wasn't my experience and I think that's the case anywhere. I did bar hop one night 104 to 136 and was mostly disappointed. Although there is a tiny and I mean tiny hottie with died blonde hair at bird in hand bar which was nothing special but ran out of time and my find at Cyrcee was just to fun to gamble but someone should try her out and let me know.

Also secrets on 136 looks good more night club lounge. Lots of Thailand go go hotties tall and beautiful. Bit to big and empty for 136 but might be worthwhile checking out. I only stopped for a drink with a friend.

After not staying at 172 second time I realized how much I hated it. So many degenerates. I still loved going to Aroha spa for daily massage and highly recommend Ling (tall and full bodied) if you like strong massages. I opted for the Swedish on my last day which is expensive but full body oil and I could swear was going to get offered something more but didn't happen even still the 2 hours of teasing and pleasure was way better than any short time at some massage place. TBH I sorta fell in love with her. Maybe because she was not a pro although I sense she might have fun for a little money she has a little girl. I helped her practice English and definitely some flirting going on. She had her day off the next day I was suppose to leave and she seemed keen to go on a date but alas did not work out. Still highly recommend and if anyone's lucky enough I am Jealous.

Sad I didn't see PP 5 years ago glad I saw it before the Chinese fuck it up and although as I said in my first posts I sorta hated the place I fucking love it now. Unfortunately I don't think I will be coming back anytime soon. So hopefully some of my posts were helpful and enjoy you dirty perverts. I will be stuck with the over priced shitty service here in North America for a while.

Yng Mong Out!