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  1. #1738

    4 days and 4 nights in Phnom Penh (March 2009)

    Night 1:

    Arrived on an early morning flight from Siem Reap. After I checked in at my hotel I got a tuk tuk driver (who became my personal driver day and night) and checked out the main tourist stuff – National Museum (must see), Royal Palace (nice but not as good as Bkk) and Silver Pagoda (ditto). It gets real hot in Phnom Penh, so around 3pm I had had enough and relaxed by the hotel pool with a mango smoothie.

    Around 7pm I went off for a nice dinner a Khmer Borane. It’s a nice restaurant with good local food on the riverfront. Over dinner I mapped my strategy and decided I would begin my night time diversions on 104 St. My tuk tuk guy dropped me off around 9pm and I told him to wait for me at the end of the street. I walked the up & and down 104st checking out the 10 – 20 bars. I looked in at onezerofour bar and saw only girls. They seemed friendly enough but since it was my first night in town, I preferred a bar with some other gringos in it.

    I walked into Zanzibar a few doors down. A pretty bartendress greeted me with a big smile and I remember thinking she wouldn’t be bad to take home. Some other girls approached me but I shooed them away. I like to get the lay of the land before I commit to anything. Two other customers sat at the bar with 2-3 girls attending to their needs. I got a beer and sat down at a table against the wall to check the place out. Zanzibar is a small cozy bar. There must have been around 20 hostess girls and 70’s rock was playing not too loud on the speakers. I liked the place from the get go. I saw one girl I thought was pretty and asked her if I could buy her a drink. She sat down and we talked the usual talk. Her girlfriend approached and she wasn’t too bad either so I offered her a drink as well. After a while the pretty girl asks me if I would like to see her perform a temple dance. I said sure so both girls got up and started their little temple dance right in front of me, you know, with the hand and face movement. This was so cute and charming. I thought, so this is the Cambodian version of a geisha girl entertaining her client. It was really fetching. Then over at the bar 3 other girls got on top of the bar and started temple dancing for their customers. Now compare this to the bullshit movie “Coyote Ugly”, where in the movie the babes dance aggressively on the bar while 100 horney, frustrated men go nuts. The men in the movie can’t touch the girls let alone lay them. And that is what Hollywood thinks is sexy. I think it is uptight and repressive. I thought how lucky I was to be in Phnom Penh.

    As I was finishing my beer, I asked the pretty girl, Tar, if we could go somewhere to be alone. She said sure. I asked how much. She said $20. Getty up! The hotel was very close by and clean. We started kissing and undressing and ended up in the shower. In the shower she gave me the usual dick, balls, ass cleaning while I kissed her, washed her pretty little tities and bumped her with my now hard cock. We dried off and continued the action in the bed. Lottsa of kissing and hugging followed up with a bare bj. I knew it wasn’t going to be long before I came, so I told Tar to put the condom on. Then we started to fuck. Tar was real sweet and her pussy felt fine. After I came we continued to cuddle. I suggested we take another shower. All clean and back in bed, Tar started to massage my feet, and then started working her way up my legs. When she got to the crotch, she gave me another blow job. Real nice! And this time she got on top. The 2nd lay was a lot longer than the first, and I let her do most of the work. I liked watching this pretty little Khmer girl go up and down on my dick. She had small round breasts. I sat up while still inside her and started kissing and fondling those pretty little breasts. It was a very nice affectionate lay. I am not naive or anything but it felt real good and real tender. A GFE moment.

    The night before I had a pretty wild time at Sak San in Siem Reap (3 showers, 3 naked bj’s and 3 fucks) so even though this girl was delightful and more than willing to keep it going, we snuggled after the 2nd time and I suggested we go back to the bar. So arm in arm we made our way back to Zanzibar. When we walked in, all the girls welcomed us back, jubilantly. It was charming and I felt totally at home in this place. I bought some drinks for Tar, myself, her girlfriend, and the smiling cute bartendress. My girl stayed close to me the rest of the evening hugging me and occasionally touching my crouch. Around 12:30 I kissed her goodbye and a little reluctantly left. I told Tar she was a really nice girl, I really liked her, and I would see her again. We kissed. Oh yeah, back at the hotel I gave her a $8 tip.

    Outside I found my trusted tuk tuk driver. He was sleeping in his vehicle. I woke him up saying “a fine kettle of fish. Sleeping on the job again.” He asked me where I wanted to go. I thought about it a minute and said let’s go to Martini’s. So off we went to the other side of town. It’s not that I wanted more action. It was just that I was on a natural high and did not want to go back to the hotel and sleep.

    We got to Martini’s around 1am. As I entered the guy at the front door padded me down. I guess some gringos come to Martini’s with weapons. Anyway, I entered the club. They have a large garden area with lots of tables and there was an interesting mix of people – local dudes, gringos and girls. No one hit on me, so I after I got a beer I walked around the place, checking things out. There were a couple of tables with 3-4 girls sitting alone together. I noticed a tall skinny girl standing alone and guessed she was Vietnamese. (Actually it was obvious she wasn’t a Khmer girl). I asked her if she wanted a drink. She said yes so we sat down together. She had a nice personality, but I soon realized she was not my type. TOO THIN!!! She had ordered dinner before I approached her, so when the waiter brought it, I stayed and continued our conversation for a little bit, but then got up and excused myself. I said I was tired and maybe we would see each other another night.

    I walked around the garden another time and checked out the disco. The disco was pitch black except for an occasional strobe light effect. The music was loud techno crap and I saw a lot of couples dancing to it. I could see that there were also some single girls in there, but it was impossible to tell if they were pretty or not. I lasted about 2 minutes before I left. Back outside in the beer garden, I walked around the area to see if there was any talent I might be interested in for the next night. Nobody really stood out, but I think I saw a couple girls that might be condom worthy. The 2nd time I walked around the area, some of the girls sitting at the tables started to show signs that they noticed me. It was around 1:45 so I left. I found my loyal tuk tuk guy waiting for me and I said let’s go to back to my hotel.

    All in all it was a great evening. Zanzibar was a small, intimate, cozy bar where everybody made me feel right at home. In fact home was never as good as Zanzibar. Very Very Nice Girls. Martini’s was a much larger place and I have nothing bad to say about it except that it’s a long way to go and the disco kind of sucked. But the beer garden was fine and if I had sufficient “power” left, I am sure I could have hooked up with a nice Khmer girl.

    Conclusion Zanzibar:

    Ambiance 9.5 – a great little bar. I loved the temple dancing, sweet, little girls.

    Selection of girls 8 – they had what I was looking for in little Tar.

    Tar – a real lovely little girl. 22 years old. Face 8. Body 8. Sex 9. I had I real friendly, lovely time with her. As I dozed off into dreamland back at my hotel, I wondered if I would find the time to get back to Zanzibar. I knew I wanted to, but I only had 3 more nights. I had not checked out any of the other bars on 104 St. let alone the scene on Pasteur St.

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  2. #1737

    H of D

    Quote Originally Posted by Cam Bodia
    Can any body tell me is this still open, the posts for PP are very quiet, the girls must be having a really hard time, we are thinking of visiting in two weeks but we don't want to go if it's so quiet we will just stay in Thailand.

    What's going on please let us know.
    I was there about 5 weeks aback and it was open and pumping with action every night.

    Enjoy.

    Blastoff

  3. #1736
    Quote Originally Posted by mattrick
    banned: driver sovanmee
    reason: offering **** girls to forum members via the pm system.
    thanks for the heads up. if you tried to include a pm it didn't make it. i never had that problem as we would go out into the countryside as opposed to mongering. i don't need a driver for that in pp.

  4. #1735

    Heart of Darkness

    Can any body tell me is this still open, the posts for PP are very quiet, the girls must be having a really hard time, we are thinking of visiting in two weeks but we don't want to go if it's so quiet we will just stay in Thailand.

    What's going on please let us know.

  5. #1734
    Quote Originally Posted by AncientFornicatr
    Does anybody know how to contact Sovann Mee, the driver. I used him last year and he did a great job. I did a search on the site but didn't get anything newer than a couple of years ago.
    Last year he was hurting for money so he may have quit. I will be in PP in a few days and would like to hire him again.
    AF
    Chhoeun Sovann, not the same as Sovan Mee, is an excellent driver and knows his way around town. Recommend you give him a try.

    http://phnompenhdriver.com/

  6. #1733

    From The "Banned Members Thread"

    Quote Originally Posted by ancientfornicatr
    does anybody know how to contact sovann mee, the driver.
    banned: driver sovanmee
    reason: offering **** girls to forum members via the pm system. this pm is one of several similar pms that were forwarded to me by forum members.

  7. #1732

    Looking for Sovann Mee

    Does anybody know how to contact Sovann Mee, the driver. I used him last year and he did a great job. I did a search on the site but didn't get anything newer than a couple of years ago.
    Last year he was hurting for money so he may have quit. I will be in PP in a few days and would like to hire him again.
    AF

  8. #1731

    Bad Experiences

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartchamdo
    Paris Hotel is now charging $6 for a 1 hr massage and $11 for 2 hrs. Not having ever visited before and not having read reports from any ISG members who have visited, I was unsure what the going rate was for extras. The 3rd floor fishbowl was pretty busy at around 4pm, with perhaps 20 or 30 ladies.

    I picked one out who the mamasan told me had good English and we went to our room together on the 4th floor. Her first action was to turn on the TV and turn the channel til she found a football game. I asked her to turn it off, and to her credit she did. Then she asked me to strip and we negotiated for extras. I told her I was only interested in a HJ, not BJ or FS. She quoted me $50. This put a sour taste in my mouth from the beginning. This girl's first impulse is to watch TV and charge me $50 for extras on top of a $6 charge for the massage? She wanted this much for a few minutes work in a country where most people make around $50 / month? This seemed insane, and I felt the experience wasn't going to be a good one, so I left. She tried to lower the price - $30, then $20, then at the last minute she desperately cried out "$10!", but by that time I was already half out the door and was convinced this wasn't going to be a fun experience. I was in the room less than 5 minutes and left without being charged for anything.

    Later the same day I noticed Paradis massage on 136 Street. It's not hard to find. It's maybe 3 or 4 blocks away from the river, and has a huge sign up top promoting it. It looks like it used to be a movie theater. Fishbowl was smaller than Hotel Paris, with around 15 girls. Unfortunately no one seemed to speak any English except one guy who helped me translate with the lady I selected. The price we negotiated came out to a few dollars for the massage (I forget - around $5) and $10 for HJ. I would have gone with this, except the lady looked really uncomfortable. She didn't respond when I gave her a friendly wave. This didn't seem like it would be a good time, so I declined and left.

    Both of these places have potential if I would have chosen a different girl and/or been more familiar with the town and the language. Call it a learning experience. At least saying "No" is free.
    Hello,

    I can relate to this and can give you my view on why I feel this happens sometimes especially when the girl gives you no reactions when u smile or wave. Many of the girls in fish bowls, especially the ones from Vietnam are not there completely of their own free will. Many are tricked into coming there from their villages with the promise of working as a house girl etc. Once they arrive they find themselves owing the organizers of their trip a lot of money and no job. They are then forced and intimidated into the sex trade to pay their debit but they really don't want to be there. These kind of girls speak no English and looks terrified as you look at them or choose them. You can't expect good service from a girl in this position and unfortunately for them, much of Asia has this problem of tricking girls into being sex workers. The best service is always from a willing participant.

    The $50 girl you mentioned, well that is the "wish price" for girls in Cambodia and as you were new she tried it on you. Anywhere between $5 to $20 for extras depending on the class of the establishment you got them from and how hot looking she is is the right price.

    Hope this helps you understand a little better how things work there.

    Happy Hunting.

  9. #1730

    Massage Options

    Paris Hotel is now charging $6 for a 1 hr massage and $11 for 2 hrs. Not having ever visited before and not having read reports from any ISG members who have visited, I was unsure what the going rate was for extras. The 3rd floor fishbowl was pretty busy at around 4pm, with perhaps 20 or 30 ladies.

    I picked one out who the mamasan told me had good English and we went to our room together on the 4th floor. Her first action was to turn on the TV and turn the channel til she found a football game. I asked her to turn it off, and to her credit she did. Then she asked me to strip and we negotiated for extras. I told her I was only interested in a HJ, not BJ or FS. She quoted me $50. This put a sour taste in my mouth from the beginning. This girl's first impulse is to watch TV and charge me $50 for extras on top of a $6 charge for the massage? She wanted this much for a few minutes work in a country where most people make around $50 / month? This seemed insane, and I felt the experience wasn't going to be a good one, so I left. She tried to lower the price - $30, then $20, then at the last minute she desperately cried out "$10!", but by that time I was already half out the door and was convinced this wasn't going to be a fun experience. I was in the room less than 5 minutes and left without being charged for anything.

    Later the same day I noticed Paradis massage on 136 Street. It's not hard to find. It's maybe 3 or 4 blocks away from the river, and has a huge sign up top promoting it. It looks like it used to be a movie theater. Fishbowl was smaller than Hotel Paris, with around 15 girls. Unfortunately no one seemed to speak any English except one guy who helped me translate with the lady I selected. The price we negotiated came out to a few dollars for the massage (I forget - around $5) and $10 for HJ. I would have gone with this, except the lady looked really uncomfortable. She didn't respond when I gave her a friendly wave. This didn't seem like it would be a good time, so I declined and left.

    Both of these places have potential if I would have chosen a different girl and/or been more familiar with the town and the language. Call it a learning experience. At least saying "No" is free.
    Last edited by Bartchamdo; 03-26-09 at 11:50. Reason: more info

  10. #1729
    Quote Originally Posted by Anorig
    I will be in Bangkok at easter and was looking forward to going to Phnom Penh for a few days. Guess it won't be so much fun. Would it be better to visit on, say, the 10th or the 19th or will it also be dead then?
    I would think either will be OK, but especially the 19th. The girls I have asked are only going to be gone 2-5 days.

  11. #1728
    Quote Originally Posted by Localboy
    I bounced around the little bars around the area, accidently discoverd (and quickly departed from) the lady-boy bar next to Pussycat. (sorry, I didn't get the name of the place, I was too busy leaving).
    Ha ha ha.

    I vote for this as funniest anecdote so far in 2009!

    Thanks for giving me a good laugh.

  12. #1727
    Quote Originally Posted by Roguesta
    If you're coming in April, be aware that the Khmer New Year is April 13th, 14th, and 15th. Unless you're coming for that reason, I'd pick another time. Many businesses will be closed, and a lot of the girls will make trips to their provinces.
    I will be in Bangkok at easter and was looking forward to going to Phnom Penh for a few days. Guess it won't be so much fun. Would it be better to visit on, say, the 10th or the 19th or will it also be dead then?

  13. #1726

    Rosies & 136

    [quote=hippie]interesting how two people can be in the same bar on the same night and have totally different opinions. i actually find there to be more pressure to buy lady drinks at rose bar than anywhere in town--but it is somewhat subtle. basically, if you don't buy a drink quickly, the girl (s) will just wander away.

    haha. you are absolutely correct! i spend too much time in thailand & pi. the girls there pressure you (vocally) for drinks. usually within a few microseconds after you sit down. i wish they would take some notes from the rose girls and "wander away".

    stopped by 136 (pussycat) last night. watched a old european guy get upset because the girl that "promised to marry him" earlier in the day, was sitting (and making out) with another guy. he didn't get mad at the guy (spent most of the time yelling at the girl), although he did kind of slap him (the guy was younger, larger, but obviously had good temper management).

    old man left to sulk and eventually found another "wife candidate" in the same bar, girl left (probably felt humiliated), and the innocent guy sat there for an hour or so before he left.

    anyway, after the fuss, the owner came in (who is the same girl that owns rosies on 104) with a few friends. i guess it was her birthday or something so they got up on the bar and started dancing. fun bar. not bad looking girls (not as nice as rosies, but a couple of cuties). watching the owner dance on the bar (she has huge breasts) was very entertaining.

    i bounced around the little bars around the area, accidently discoverd (and quickly departed from) the lady-boy bar next to pussycat. (sorry, i didn't get the name of the place, i was too busy leaving).

    i enjoyed my stay in cambodia. its refreshing from the high-speed, high-pressure atmosphere of thailand (cowboy & nana) and pi (makati/ermita). the girls are friendly and prices are great ($27 is unreal low. i am jealous of you guys that live here). reminds me of pi 15 years ago.

    editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here for more information.

  14. #1725
    Quote Originally Posted by Cam Bodia
    J

    The concierge girls are more expensive than others normally $100 but they are far superior to the standard martini or heart of darkness girls.
    Girls are viet, cambo, or chinese?

  15. #1724
    Interesting how two people can be in the same bar on the same night and have totally different opinions. I actually find there to be more pressure to buy lady drinks at Rose Bar than anywhere in town--but it is somewhat subtle. Basically, if you don't buy a drink quickly, the girl(s) will just wander away.

    The location that housed Sophies is now occupied. Not sure if it is some kind of business, or a house like it was before Sophies opened. Either way, I think we can assume Sophies is gone forever.

    The asking price in Cyrcee is probably going to be $20 if you are not a regular, but as Localboy said, the correct price to pay is $15. There are some lookers there, and the owner is quite a nice guy, but $27 is just too much to pay in this town for ST IMO. However, if you are here for a short trip, and especially if you are the kind of guy who does multiple girls in a day, then it may well be a good option.

    Every single girl I have asked in the last week said she was going home to the province for Khmer New Year. If I keep getting the same answer, I think I will be leaving town that week. This is going to be one boring place.

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