Phnom Penh

[DanTheMan]

I realize that for those of you who've been mongering for a while, this information is old news and much of it can be gleaned from other corners of the internet. But for those folks new to mongering or unsure how things work in PP I hope this info will be helpful.

I've lived in PP for +6 months now and gotten dozens of oil massages around town (and in Siem Reap). I've gotten a happy ending in +90% of my oil massages by following a few basic rules. If others have pointers to add please respond. I'm sure different techniques work for different folks. Below is what nearly always works for me.

1) Select a massage parlor in the tourist areas along the river. The 10% of places where I was unsuccessful were all in established neighborhoods. In the tourist areas, I'm pretty much at 100%.

2) Go during off-hours or be the only customer. I prefer to go mid-day on a weekday and I check to see how many pairs of shoes are at the front door. If I see Western style shoes I either come back another time or pick a different place. An empty massage shop means ladies are not making any money and my thought is they're more willing to work for a tip to make some money during slow times.

3) Select a 1 hour oil massage. You will not get a happy ending with a foot massage.

4) Be friendly to the masseuse. If you are friendly and maybe can say a few words in Khmer, you will make the lady more comfortable and with her comfort comes her willingness to be nice back to you.

5) Oil massages are done totally nude. When you go into the room you will be told to take off your clothes and lay down. Do not leave your underwear on, do not put the towel over you or even next to you, do not put on the massage shorts. Lay on your stomach totally nude and when the lady comes in say Hello, in Khmer, but do not make eye contact.

6) If she covers your ass with towel all is not lost. Let her cover you. She may ask if it's ok to cover you. Ask if it's ok to leave it off. If she covers you let the tower stay there. When she works her way up to your ass, slide the towel up a bit to let her have more to work with. Then you can ask if it's ok to remove the towel. If she agrees and starts massaging your butt, this is a great sign. If she start massaging your inner thigh near your balls. You're in..

Excellent advice. I'm going to use it when I go in pp in Feb.

Thanks again.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Been looking at hotels in Cambodia for maiden trip.

So far LE Grand Palais looks promising esp due to closeness to Crycee (breakfast ok? But. Seeing cheap & safe transport is by tuk tuk my question is does it really matter as long as you stay around central market or Riverside?

Pontoon seems close too.

My wishes. Decent sized room, pool, decent Western breakfast options and quiet at night. Prefer FL or pick ups and bring home to hotel room so obviously GF. Price range 60 -80 US.

Read about delivery by Tuk tuk drivers so just wait in room and see what turns up?

Any assistance appreciated.

To New Image.

I like the Riverside area many nice new hotel w pool been open up in the last few yr, many bar and pick up place are in walking distance also like the central market area near shopping during the day but most hotel is age but cheap getting around is cheap motorbike taxi is all over the place or you can hire one for the day or half day cheap.

Fast Eddie 48.

[NewImage]

Been looking at hotels in Cambodia for maiden trip.

So far LE Grand Palais looks promising esp due to closeness to Crycee (breakfast ok? But. Seeing cheap & safe transport is by tuk tuk my question is does it really matter as long as you stay around central market or Riverside?

Pontoon seems close too.

My wishes. Decent sized room, pool, decent Western breakfast options and quiet at night. Prefer FL or pick ups and bring home to hotel room so obviously GF. Price range 60 -80 US.

Read about delivery by Tuk tuk drivers so just wait in room and see what turns up?

Any assistance appreciated.

[Nounce]

Not sure what is the definition of "safe" here. One can google "Phnom Penh robbery" or "Bangkok robbery" to get an idea about safety level. If you can read Chinese, robbery and briberies and reported quite often in Chinese forum. Maybe the robber only target Asian with a pack or showing a phone, but who knows.

[Banana Boi]

I have never felt unsafe in Phnom Penh. There is no reason to unless you wander off the beaten path. Same applies to Pattya and Bangkok. Stay where there are people and you are good. Just don't act like a fool or p1ss people off.

AskeAske is exactly correct. Traffic should be anyone's main concern in the SE Asia countries.

[AskeAske]

Get drunk like a fool and wander around. I don't care about PP sexpat rummies. This is a warning for those who go for short times. PP is a dangerous sh-thole. I don't have to be scared because I'm not a drunk and don't stroll around after midnight.

You don't know what you are talking about. Yes, Cambodia and the rest of Asia are dangerous. But not because of crime. But because of the traffic. Be careful in the traffic, because that is the real killer.

[JesseJames]

If you are so scared, then stay at home. If that is more safe? If you are a little streetwise, PP is safe. But nothing is 100 % safe. When I go out drinking all night in PP I always take a safe tuk-tuk. One I know. I pay him all night. We go to a place, I come out, we go to the next place. I have never any problem in PP. JesseJames, stay at home. Then nothing happen at all.

Get drunk like a fool and wander around. I don't care about PP sexpat rummies. This is a warning for those who go for short times. PP is a dangerous sh-thole. I don't have to be scared because I'm not a drunk and don't stroll around after midnight.

[GreenBud]

The US state department just put out a good map indicating 7 levels of safety for travel. Note: it is not all inclusive. There will be areas of safety and danger. You still have to use your brains.

https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/

Interesting to note that Cambodia is grouped together at the 2nd level of safety with Thailand and Laos. Also interesting is that Vietnam is lumped together with South Korea and Japan at the 1st level. As expected, the Philippines is more dangerous at the 4th level.

[GreenBud]

More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women. Mr. Panharith added that 86 foreigners were also injured, 18 of them women. They got injured during robberies, traffic accidents and acts of violence. The number of dead and injured foreigners increased in 2017 compared to 2016. http://www.khmertimes.com/50101659/d...nors-increase/.

I doubt anyone mugged, robbed, stabbed or shot is going to hang around PP and have beers with the expats and tell them what adventures they had with the criminals. Go play Russian roulette and walk around after midnight.

You're full of shit! You even got the website wrong. The correct website is: http://www.khmertimeskh.com/50101659...ners-increase/.

Out of the 119 foreigner's death, 1 was from murder. Most (86) were from illnesses. 6 were unexplained. Out of approx 5 million foreign tourist plus the ex-pats, there was 1 official murder. Not bad. Wondering if that murder was caused by a local or another foreigner. Locals do not kill tourist. We tourist are protected. The government / country needs our tourist money.

86 were injured officially, out of 5 million. The article does not break out the numbers between crime from locals, crime from other foreigners, and accidents. I would be curious on the number of non-violent petty crime.

[Eszpresszo]

More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women.

Did the article say how they died? Why do you assume they died as a result of criminal activity? Are you sure some of them didn't die a natural death (heart attack, stroke, chronic or malignant illness), drug overdose, traffic accident, suicide, or plain old "death by misadventure" (common for tourists who don't know their limits)?

Maybe you should look at the number of foreigners who die in Thailand each year and tell us why Thailand is safer.

[AskeAske]

More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women. Mr. Panharith added that 86 foreigners were also injured, 18 of them women. They got injured during robberies, traffic accidents and acts of violence. The number of dead and injured foreigners increased in 2017 compared to 2016. http://www.khmertimes.com/50101659/d...nors-increase/.

I doubt anyone mugged, robbed, stabbed or shot is going to hang around PP and have beers with the expats and tell them what adventures they had with the criminals. Go play Russian roulette and walk around after midnight.

If you are so scared, then stay at home. If that is more safe? If you are a little streetwise, PP is safe. But nothing is 100 % safe. When I go out drinking all night in PP I always take a safe tuk-tuk. One I know. I pay him all night. We go to a place, I come out, we go to the next place. I have never any problem in PP. JesseJames, stay at home. Then nothing happen at all.

[BabaGanoosh]

FWIW I walked all around the Patoon area and up to 136st tonight and it felt exceedingly safe. Actually feels safer at night, than the day because every st is fairly quiet. During the day feels like a motorcycle driver might drive by and steal your phone if given the opportunity.

[JesseJames]

More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women. Mr. Panharith added that 86 foreigners were also injured, 18 of them women. They got injured during robberies, traffic accidents and acts of violence. The number of dead and injured foreigners increased in 2017 compared to 2016. http://www.khmertimes.com/50101659/d...nors-increase/.

I doubt anyone mugged, robbed, stabbed or shot is going to hang around PP and have beers with the expats and tell them what adventures they had with the criminals. Go play Russian roulette and walk around after midnight.

[JesseJames]

I was going to reply to this in nearly the exact same way when I read the original post. Like you I have walked around numerous parts of town in the early hours of the morning when I didn't have the patients to deal with tuk tuk driver bullshit, never had a problem of the past 10 years.

I think like anywhere, if you use a bit of common sense, exercise some caution and aren't a loud mouthed trouble seeker Phnom Penh is no more dangerous than say, Melbourne or Singapore.

Cheers.

DingoD.

Good Luck.

[AussieGuy100]

Can someone tell me phonetically how to say.

1) I want to perform oral sex on you / eat your pussy. Whatever expression makes my point.

2) I want you to suck me without a condom.

3) Go slowly.

1) knyom chong see k'doey on.

2) Som on see k'dor ut meen srowm (sound as in row. Argument).

3) twer yute yute.