Phnom Penh

[Buko Max]

Thanks. I had understood from some reports here that Golden Sorya is a place to go to in the afternoon.
And the disco you're talking about is Pontoon I suppose? That's not my thing but thanks for the tip anyway.

Golden Sorya has activity at all hours of the day and night! The disco I'm referring to starts up very late (or early as the case may be) in Golden Sorya. It is a drinking establishment that morphs into a disco. Forgot the name of the place.

[Kenny Rogers]

Being gay is frowned upon in Asia? Have you spent any time in Bangkok?

LOL yes, I have. Maybe too much time in Khrung Thep. I am with the Thais there and see Kathoeys as the 3rd gender. Ladyboys are ladyboys. That's not gay to me.

You would be surprised how many Thais accept Kathoeys as they are but frown about about men doing men.

Sure PP and Philippines have their share of Ladyboys too, but again, it is, or is at least seen as, something different.

[Simian]

Being gay is frowned upon in Asia? Have you spent any time in Bangkok?

And what about all the ladyboys? They are in Phnom Penh too.

And the monarch?

[Goatscrot]

I've been to HoD about a dozen times in mid-December and mid-January. On a few occasions I have indeed seen gays, although being gay is mostly frowned upon in Asia and definitely is in PP. On other occasions I haven't. I can"t say whether PP has a gay scene who meets there every now or then, but from what I had seen the gays are not dominating that club. You can still go there, have a few drinks and look for hot chicks without feeling displaced or weird.

As long as a club is not dominant gay (which indeed would make me feel weird and taking business elsewhere) I say "to each his own".

Being gay is frowned upon in Asia? Have you spent any time in Bangkok?

[Kenny Rogers]

Recent reports say that HoD is more gay than straight.

I've been to HoD about a dozen times in mid-December and mid-January. On a few occasions I have indeed seen gays, although being gay is mostly frowned upon in Asia and definitely is in PP. On other occasions I haven't. I can"t say whether PP has a gay scene who meets there every now or then, but from what I had seen the gays are not dominating that club. You can still go there, have a few drinks and look for hot chicks without feeling displaced or weird.

As long as a club is not dominant gay (which indeed would make me feel weird and taking business elsewhere) I say "to each his own".

[Kenny Rogers]

Many of the girls from Sorya is addicted to drugs, but not 75%. I have repeatedly taken different FL home from Sorya. Must of them I meet in bar in Sorya. $ 20 LT. Cute and sweet girls. Some of them have been more semi-pro. Working as FL once a week to get the money to strike. It's easy to avoid the drugsheads.

AskeAske,

I'm not saying that I have it all figured out, but I noticed that some girls which I've met occasionally for 2 years or more do it occasionally, although they always insisted they don't. I guess the girls adapt to punter's expectations. Some of us are against drugs of any kind and some like to use it for a better kick. A friend of mine is into that and he hung out with some of the girls I was with, too.

But then, there definitely ARE the semi-pros or amateurs who steer clear of anything drug related. You're definitely right there.

[Kenny Rogers]

Do you mean 75% of the girls hanging around at Sorya? Or 75% in general? That sounds like a lot but 75% of the Sorya girls could be true.

Yes, junkies are a no-go factor for me. Real junkies anyway, I don't mind if they take some party drug occasionally.

I was at Sorya yesterday evening and although some of the girls look rather cute I still had my doubts and didn't take one. The whole scene is a bit seedy, including most of the punters I must say.

Mogwai, I trust that you've been around long enough to identify a real junkie. These however are rare and not very visible in Asia.

Even the girls in Martini, LE Cyrcee and the bars around 13 o street like to do some "ïce" as meth is called there. This goes in particular for those girls whom you would NOT suspect to do it since they're real pretty and quite lookers. Some. Maybe most? - of these have regular dayjobs, though and ice gets you going.

If you can identify a girl from 1st or 2nd look as a druggie then she's likely on the road to hell for good. As for those who like sometimes or more often to snort, well, I don't care, although I usually make clear that I do not want to be associated with drugs of any kind.

I had to laugh when you said that "the whole scene is a bit seedy". It's not meant as an offense, quite the contrary, but what's seedy or not depends on one's personal judgment, and probably guys like you and me look quite seedy to some do-gooders.

[AskeAske]

Do you mean 75% of the girls hanging around at Sorya? Or 75% in general? That sounds like a lot but 75% of the Sorya girls could be true.

Yes, junkies are a no-go factor for me. Real junkies anyway, I don't mind if they take some party drug occasionally.

I was at Sorya yesterday evening and although some of the girls look rather cute I still had my doubts and didn't take one. The whole scene is a bit seedy, including most of the punters I must say.

Many of the girls from Sorya is addicted to drugs, but not 75%. I have repeatedly taken different FL home from Sorya. Must of them I meet in bar in Sorya. $ 20 LT. Cute and sweet girls. Some of them have been more semi-pro. Working as FL once a week to get the money to strike. It's easy to avoid the drugsheads.

[Mogwai]

My experience is that not just the skinny girls are on drugs. The real skinny ones are just into that for a longer time.

Probably 75% of the working girls are taking something at least every now and then. If that's a no-go factor for you than you'll really need to look long and hard over there.

Do you mean 75% of the girls hanging around at Sorya? Or 75% in general? That sounds like a lot but 75% of the Sorya girls could be true.

Yes, junkies are a no-go factor for me. Real junkies anyway, I don't mind if they take some party drug occasionally.

I was at Sorya yesterday evening and although some of the girls look rather cute I still had my doubts and didn't take one. The whole scene is a bit seedy, including most of the punters I must say.

[LifeIsABeach]

It's either Pontoon around the corner or HoD (Heart of Darkness) just opposite of Sorya mall.

Recent reports say that HoD is more gay than straight.

[James02]

If you mean the Golden Sorya Mall area: I don't know. But anyway it's not advisable because you'll be dealing with greedy pimps most of the time.

I don't know which area it is in but I have just heard stories about it that is all.

If you scroll down this thread you'll see that this topic was raised before.

First, your motodop or Tuk-Tuk driver will get a commission. Second, the pimps want to get paid in advance which is unusual in Cambo. Third, you'll more likely NOT Get what you want-a mediocre short-time pop at best.

If you're into the cheap lane, go to the inner circle of Wat Phnom between 6 and 9 pm.

So are you saying I'm just going to get ripped off!

In this instant I was not inquiring about the cheap lane I was more after the specialized sacred girl.

[Kenny Rogers]

Nice series of reports Mogwai! From my experience, the activity at Golden Sorya mall gets going in the evening and many of the skinny girls are on drugs! The disco there which gets going quite late can yield good results.

My experience is that not just the skinny girls are on drugs. The real skinny ones are just into that for a longer time.

Probably 75% of the working girls are taking something at least every now and then. If that's a no-go factor for you than you'll really need to look long and hard over there.

[Kenny Rogers]

Thanks. I had understood from some reports here that Golden Sorya is a place to go to in the afternoon.
And the disco you're talking about is Pontoon I suppose? That's not my thing but thanks for the tip anyway.

It's either Pontoon around the corner or HoD (Heart of Darkness) just opposite of Sorya mall.

[Kenny Rogers]

If you mean the Golden Sorya Mall area: I don't know. But anyway it's not advisable because you'll be dealing with greedy pimps most of the time.

If you scroll down this thread you'll see that this topic was raised before.

First, your motodop or Tuk-Tuk driver will get a commission. Second, the pimps want to get paid in advance which is unusual in Cambo. Third, you'll more likely NOT Get what you want-a mediocre short-time pop at best.

If you're into the cheap lane, go to the inner circle of Wat Phnom between 6 and 9 pm.

[Mogwai]

Hi,

Is it true they have girls that are pimped from the back of a motorbike in this area.

If you mean the Golden Sorya Mall area: I don't know. But anyway it's not advisable because you'll be dealing with greedy pimps most of the time.