Phnom Penh

[Simian]

Personally I don't know why anybody goes to massage places for sex. The massage in these places is average at best, the sex is usually mediocre, and the cost is relatively expensive for what you get.

Even nearly $100 for a massage and sex with a 'gorgeous Korean woman' sounds expensive to me. Why bother? Why not pay $8 for a really good one hour oil massage in one of Phnom Penh's better massage places, then head for Airforce or another decent hostess bar and take out a beautiful girl for $45-50 short time, including barfine. Total cost $53-58.

The bargirl scenario was invented to cater to the Western market where the guy liked to think he was not just having anonymous sex even though he was and thought that he could check out the girl in the bar even though her attitude in the bar could change once they got to his hotel.

The massage scene prevails because certain mongerers like to keep their hobby within a controlled environment and may have an investment in their community which would be harmed if they were seen openly cavorting in a bar and then walking to a hotel or taking a taxi with a girl in tow. THat is why many Thais just do not get the Falang appetite for the girlie bar with take-out.

I used to like the bar scene years ago and I thought that an older gent that I met back then was mad when he told me that he was exclusively a consumer of massages with FS. Now I am that guy. Why? Because I have lived in Asia too long, have gotten older and know most of the conversations and the routine that follows an encounter in a bar. I also have an investment in certain communities in Asia where I work. I do not want to get the reputation of being the tasteless one who drags a trashy P4P girl around with him. So I do the Asian thing of keeping it under wraps. But back in the day when I used to come to Asia for vacation only it was different.

THat said, whenever I get the chance to break out in a city where I don't work and there is no connection that would rat me out, the I happily pick up a freelancer who looks promising I go for it. But most of the time I stick with the massage FS (or an oldfashioned brothel like Sophie / Le Cirque in PP) as it is less obvious what I am doing. I am really tired of the bargirls that overcharge, turn LT into ST, suddenly appear to have the time of the month, suddenly adjust the price / tip upwards, raid the drinks cabinet and cost me a fortune, steal (including hotel stuff which I get charged for) , do the starfish, have a serious odour problem down below, fill me with tales of woe, won't leave when it is all done in the morning and have to be ejected, wear clothes and behave in such a way that the whole hotel knows what I am doing, take phone calls while doing it and much else.

[AussieGuy100]

Shit like this is why Cambodia sucks for mongering. Unless you take a $10 freelance crack addict grandmother from Walkabout, you're going to get prices like this. Sure they'll usually come down, but WTF. I get FS for less than $100 from gorgeous women in Korea. I sure as fuck ain't paying that in a 3rd world backwater where people split $40 a month rent ten ways.

Personally I don't know why anybody goes to massage places for sex. The massage in these places is average at best, the sex is usually mediocre, and the cost is relatively expensive for what you get.

Even nearly $100 for a massage and sex with a 'gorgeous Korean woman' sounds expensive to me. Why bother? Why not pay $8 for a really good one hour oil massage in one of Phnom Penh's better massage places, then head for Airforce or another decent hostess bar and take out a beautiful girl for $45-50 short time, including barfine. Total cost $53-58.

And please don't start on the 'mongering in PP costs a fortune' theme. Sure it's not the cheapest place. If you you want cheap go to the Caribbean or Africa etc. But I find the Khmer girls usually friendly, enthusiastic in bed and reasonably priced. Having been in PP eight months now, I far prefer it to Thailand or the Philippines.

[Rick Rock]

The Rex Hotel has a fish bowl on the first floor with ladies in blue polos (Cambodian) and pink polos (Vietnamese). At about 2pm there were perhaps 15. 20 girls in the fish bowl.

(50:50 Cambodian / Vietnamese). Massage US$10. 00 in a small room for an hour.

I made a mistake and picked a more mature Cambodian lady who rushed through the massage in 20 minutes with no teasing to encourage further investment and with a towel covering

The 'essential bits'. After the 20 minutes she suggested boom boom at US$ 100. 00 and was palpably unhappy when I reached for my clothes to get dressed. I was happy to 'lose'

US$10. 00 on a short (but quite good for a rushed) massage and get out. By this time little willy had lost all enthusiasm and we concluded with a little more massage.

No doubt boom boom is available here. I hope you pick better ladies who don't ask stupid* prices.

* I don't mind negotiating down from a sensible starting point but I get pissed off when the ladies take the [CodeWord140].

Shit like this is why Cambodia sucks for mongering. Unless you take a $10 freelance crack addict grandmother from Walkabout, you're going to get prices like this. Sure they'll usually come down, but WTF. I get FS for less than $100 from gorgeous women in Korea. I sure as fuck ain't paying that in a 3rd world backwater where people split $40 a month rent ten ways.

[Rick Rock]

If the one opposite Cyrcee is the hairsalon, that is a dump, no clean sheets, very crampy and I walked away from there after 10 minutes. At Sakura I have been a number of times. It is OK with very friendly girls but I can hardly believe that anything more than massage is on offer at Sakura. I just do not believe it.

I would have said that too, especially with the thin walls. But when I went for the oil massage the girl clearly grabbed my cock a few times and smiled and laughed. She asked me why it didn't "wake up" (I think that's why I didn't get HE). At the end I specifically asked "no massage here?" She took off the towel and gave it like 2-3 tugs then laughed and said "finished!"

[Scorchin1470]

The Rex Hotel has a fish bowl on the first floor with ladies in blue polos (Cambodian) and pink polos (Vietnamese). At about 2pm there were perhaps 15. 20 girls in the fish bowl.

(50:50 Cambodian / Vietnamese). Massage US$10. 00 in a small room for an hour.

I made a mistake and picked a more mature Cambodian lady who rushed through the massage in 20 minutes with no teasing to encourage further investment and with a towel covering

The 'essential bits'. After the 20 minutes she suggested boom boom at US$ 100. 00 and was palpably unhappy when I reached for my clothes to get dressed. I was happy to 'lose'

US$10. 00 on a short (but quite good for a rushed) massage and get out. By this time little willy had lost all enthusiasm and we concluded with a little more massage.

No doubt boom boom is available here. I hope you pick better ladies who don't ask stupid* prices.

* I don't mind negotiating down from a sensible starting point but I get pissed off when the ladies take the [CodeWord140].

[Titanio]

On to something a little more productive, has anyone ever gotten any extras at Sakura massage on 130, about a block or two from the riverside? I stopped there twice when I was in PP, got a $5 body massage (had to wear satin pajamas, WTF, but it was a great Thai massage) and another time for a $7 oil massage (fully nude, a lot of playfulness and she even grabbed my dong a few times and made jokes, but refused to jack me off)?

I figured it was just a legit spot after my two visits but since then guys on other forums have said they got the firm hand shake to end the massage. I'm wondering if they're bullshitting or I simply couldn't get any action.

I did get a nice rub and tug at the massage shop across the street from Cyrcee.

If the one opposite Cyrcee is the hairsalon, that is a dump, no clean sheets, very crampy and I walked away from there after 10 minutes. At Sakura I have been a number of times. It is OK with very friendly girls but I can hardly believe that anything more than massage is on offer at Sakura. I just do not believe it.

[Rick Rock]

On to something a little more productive, has anyone ever gotten any extras at Sakura massage on 130, about a block or two from the riverside? I stopped there twice when I was in PP, got a $5 body massage (had to wear satin pajamas, WTF, but it was a great Thai massage) and another time for a $7 oil massage (fully nude, a lot of playfulness and she even grabbed my dong a few times and made jokes, but refused to jack me off)?

I figured it was just a legit spot after my two visits but since then guys on other forums have said they got the firm hand shake to end the massage. I'm wondering if they're bullshitting or I simply couldn't get any action.

I did get a nice rub and tug at the massage shop across the street from Cyrcee.

[Scorchin1470]

In Phnom Penh and as I expected after two massages I can say that a HJ is pretty well guaranteed. In one case after a 'balls massage' which rivaled the celebrated Rin in Bangkok.

Damn and after 40 minutes of erotic stimulation, I can't find the place again of Sisowath Quay.

[Scorchin1470]

You're a bit touchy there.

Anyone who's ever been to PP and says it's not a noisy city is deluded.

I've been to PP over 20 times in the last 3 1/2 years. I keep changing hotels because of the noise of traffic, weddings, funerals, karaoke joints, sales people with their 1000 watt speaker setups, etc. Complaining about sleep deprivation in PP is not unjust. It is what it is, a noisy Asian city.

I am not at all touchy. Just feel I am dealing with a bunch of wimps who cannot stand a bit of urban noise. Get your bar fine to sit on your face and you will soon find quiet.

[Scorchin1470]

I'm from New York bro.

I didn't say Phnom Penh should be avoided at all costs. Some people like it. Some people even like the urban centers of India (!). But if you dislike extremely loud noise on a consistent basis, or if you're a light sleeper who needs rest, then you should look elsewhere.

Qte Yeah, me too. That's why I avoid PP. Unqte.

So what do we believe.

[Leftfield1965]

It is a sweeping generalisation to say that, as you suggest others should avoid Phnom Penh because of traffic noise. FFS, there are plenty of hotels away from Sisowath

Quay and other main streets where traffic noise is minimal. And many so-called noisy hotels have rooms on the back side.

It is a pity that some complain unjustifiably about so-called 'sleep deprivation' due to traffic noise unless you are used to living in a desert.

You're a bit touchy there.

Anyone who's ever been to PP and says it's not a noisy city is deluded.

I've been to PP over 20 times in the last 3 1/2 years. I keep changing hotels because of the noise of traffic, weddings, funerals, karaoke joints, sales people with their 1000 watt speaker setups, etc.

Complaining about sleep deprivation in PP is not unjust. It is what it is, a noisy Asian city.

[Rick Rock]

It is a sweeping generalisation to say that, as you suggest others should avoid Phnom Penh because of traffic noise. FFS, there are plenty of hotels away from Sisowath

Quay and other main streets where traffic noise is minimal. And many so-called noisy hotels have rooms on the back side.

It is a pity that some complain unjustifiably about so-called 'sleep deprivation' due to traffic noise unless you are used to living in a desert.

I'm from New York bro.

I didn't say Phnom Penh should be avoided at all costs. Some people like it. Some people even like the urban centers of India (!). But if you dislike extremely loud noise on a consistent basis, or if you're a light sleeper who needs rest, then you should look elsewhere.

[Scorchin1470]

Yeah, me too. That's why I avoid PP.

It is a sweeping generalisation to say that, as you suggest others should avoid Phnom Penh because of traffic noise. FFS, there are plenty of hotels away from Sisowath

Quay and other main streets where traffic noise is minimal. And many so-called noisy hotels have rooms on the back side.

It is a pity that some complain unjustifiably about so-called 'sleep deprivation' due to traffic noise unless you are used to living in a desert.

[Rick Rock]

Getting 3/4 hours sleep per night because of traffic noise in the morning gets to me after a few days, so I prefer to stay in an area where I can sleep in a bit.

Yeah, me too. That's why I avoid PP.

[PolyOrchid]

There are beauties and big boobs in every country if one looks hard enough. I love them all!

D Cups, I am happy you find the big boobs your name indicates you like. But Asia is heaven for us itty-bitty-titty lovers!