Phnom Penh

[D Cups]

I'I want to suck you big cock all night', 'honey I love you' and 'my pussy gets wet when I think of you' one phrase I came across was ' I want you take photo of your cock in my pussy'

Those are good phrases for any desirable woman to learn and apply!

[Kamraj]

During my recent visit to Phnom Penh, visited Hotel Paris as recommended by some of the group members. Third floor is for massage but there are no massage rooms and they had a small fish bowl. The collection of girls varies a lot and they have from suspected minors to teens to elderly women. I tried four girls over a period of two days and was really pleased with the service provided. I have long believed that never select the youngest girl and pritiest girl but gor with average looks and my recent visit reconfirmed this. I had best experience with girl in her early 20s but who was slightly chubby with with BIG BOOBS. I had spent 45 minutes with her with lovely GF experience. She was open to french kissing.

Rate: I was initially quoted USD 50 but I stick to USD 30. I could have bargained lower as one of the girl honesly told that they are entirely dependent on direct payment from customers, as hotel does not make any payment to them. But I prefered to pay little higher than ongoing rate in Cambodia, as this is still lot cheaper than USD 70-80 in Bangkok in similar estabilishments. I paid a tip of USD 5 on average but paid a tip of USD 10 to the chubby girl who provided excellent service. Trust me, even at USD 5 tip girls were very happy.

Beware of some suspected minors and avoid them so as not to land yourself in any trouble.

[Riverstar]

I have been following the discussion on publishing photographs and thought that this may be of interest to some members.

When a girl first starts to work in a bar most have little or no English so the other girls suggest useful phrases to be used in both conversation I, SMS and emails which the girl will keep in a note book. I was recently looking at a friend's note book she used a number of years ago and apart from the expected such as 'I want to suck you big cock all night', 'honey I love you' and 'my pussy gets wet when I think of you' one phrase I came across was ' I want you take photo of your cock in my pussy'

[GreenBud]

as for your comment equating this deception to "like a [CodeWord123]", it's hardly worth a response. genuine [CodeWord123] is violent sexual intercourse without consent.

let me clarify; ladyboy deception is like "date [CodeWord123]". date [CodeWord123] is where the girl is on a date, and she claims the guy raped her. but she didn't scream, just a few muffled "nos". i have trouble with that "crime" because there is no screaming and no marks on either person.

i've never heard of a ladyboy doing this to a punter.

there's a case in the san francisco area where 2 guys beat to death a tranny (ladyboy) they were hanging around with because they found out it was a guy. obviously, the tranny gave them anal and / or oral sex.

i have sympathy for the tranny's mom, but not the tranny. that was equivalent to "date [CodeWord123]" when it tricked those 2 guys.

[D Cups]

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1245290]Once I almost made a terrible mistake.

It's happened to a lot of us, Sam. Of course alcohol impairs our judgement, too. I've never been with an Asian ladyboy but have taken pictures of their boobs. I might even feel one up but that's where it ends. Not into chicks with dicks. To me, they are confused and conflicted individuals.

The ones in South America are particularly deceitful. I was drinking with a buddy on Copacaba Beach in Rio many years ago and we unknowingly picked up on two Uruguaians ladyboys. Even played kissy face and boob groping on the beach. I didn't know any better! I took mine back to hotel and almost shit when s / he took off her panties and there it was: a tiny schwantooka! I was so angry I threw he / she / its clothes in the hall and literally kicked her ass out. Then I brushed my teeth for about 20minutes. Funny now but not funny then!

[Mrsand]

Guys it's my first time here in Cambodia and I just arrive, any good recomendation? So far the reports I been reading around are martinis and cat-house, I'm staying at Kampuchea Krom Boulevard area.

[Fishfinger]

Sure ok, though you did say to the Penguin "You're not a gent, and neither is Wendella"

Either way, glad you said it, because I think you're RIGHT. I'm not a gent! Not for this stuff at least. I'm going down to one of these bars to pick up some really poor but pretty and way too young girl (too young for me, I mean, I could be her dad). I'm taking advantage of the opportunity because I can afford to. I have $20. That's the case for just about everybody who's here. Pretty much everything we're up to is seen by most people in our countries as pretty sleazy. I think, well ok, yep. I can't argue with that. Guilty as charged. That's why nobody here uses their own name, right? So if all this stuff is "bad", then posting nude photos of someone on a public website against their wishes is the one thing that's not bad?

This will be my last reply.

I personally don't think it is good or bad, you are the one making Judeo-Christian morality calls.

What I said is that nobody on this site is a gent and certainly not in a position to tell others what is moral or not. I wouldn't post pictures but have no problem with others doing it. To each his own.

Now let's get this thread back on track.

[AussieGuy100]

1) i would strongly disagree that the bar has no responsibility to warn the customer. it is a hetersexual bar; most guys are not into ladyboys. customers have the right to know what they are "buying"! the bar and ladyboys are tricking some of the customers. imo, it is almost like [CodeWord123].

also, the ladyboy scene is historically more prevelant in thailand; it is part of the normal scene. in cambodia, this ladyboy thing seems to be somewhat recent. starting to see some (mainly in candy bar and what phnom) in the last several years. didn't see any 10 years ago (although i wasn't really looking for them).

guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. from your comments you seem to view a bar as a place where there is a lineup of products waiting to be chosen and bought for sex. fair enough, a perfectly valid point of view. i see the whole thing as more of an adventure, with the unexpected around every corner. part of the charm of phnom penh i think. sure i'm looking for a stunner at a reasonable price, but if i happen across a ladyboy, female midget hostess, even an amputee, (and i've seen all these in various bars) then that's all part of the experience.

i've found that the ladyboys have admitted what they are well before any chance of ending up in a hotel room. possibly some of the posters on this forum have been deceived to the point of taking a girl to their hotel room or st hotel before discovering that it is a ladyboy, but i'd guess that is quite rare. as i said before, both the ladyboys i was 'tricked' by admitted there ladyboy status before we'd left the bar.

as for your comment equating this deception to "like a [CodeWord123]", it's hardly worth a response. genuine [CodeWord123] is violent sexual intercourse without consent. i've never heard of a ladyboy doing this to a punter.

[GreenBud]

1) last night at 1:00 am, both heart of darkness and pontoon was semi-packed. since pontoon has larger square footage, more girls would be present at pontoon. but i prefer the decor of the heart. pontoon is one of those generic airplane hanger type of discos.

2) didn't see any ladyboys at the candy bar last night (good thing, imo).

oops; the bar in which the ladyboy was at wasn't 69; it was some other bar.

bar 136 (next to bar 69) has the ladyboys. the other night, it had 2 that were obviously ladyboys.

as ladyboys in bars are a much more accepted part of the scenery in asia, i don't think it's the bar's responsibility to 'warn' the customer.

i would strongly disagree that the bar has no responsibility to warn the customer. it is a hetersexual bar; most guys are not into ladyboys. customers have the right to know what they are "buying"! the bar and ladyboys are tricking some of the customers. imo, it is almost like [CodeWord123].

also, the ladyboy scene is historically more prevelant in thailand; it is part of the normal scene. in cambodia, this ladyboy thing seems to be somewhat recent. starting to see some (mainly in candy bar and wat phnom) in the last several years. didn't see any 10 years ago (although i wasn't really looking for them).

yeah i guess i took it the wrong way, your line: "hey wendella, you have a new secret admirer! too bad we can't be all like you! lol!".

i was making fun of you, again, at your expense (i thought it was harmless, but of course, harmless from my point of view). easy to rib people; might get irritating to get ribbed. i'll try to stop.

[Wendella]

Wendella my comment wasn't aimed at you, each is entitled to his own opinion, like I said I personally would not post pictures either.

What I found incredible hypocritical were the moral judgement comments made by Pokey Penguin.

Sure ok, though you did say to the Penguin "You're not a gent, and neither is Wendella"

Either way, glad you said it, because I think you're RIGHT. I'm not a gent! Not for this stuff at least. I'm going down to one of these bars to pick up some really poor but pretty and way too young girl (too young for me, I mean, I could be her dad). I'm taking advantage of the opportunity because I can afford to. I have $20. That's the case for just about everybody who's here. Pretty much everything we're up to is seen by most people in our countries as pretty sleazy. I think, well ok, yep. I can't argue with that. Guilty as charged. That's why nobody here uses their own name, right? So if all this stuff is "bad", then posting nude photos of someone on a public website against their wishes is the one thing that's not bad?

[AussieGuy100]

She replied the other girl is a ladyboy. Other ladyboy guy was trying to kiss me. I immediately called the waitress and her her ask him to go back dancing. Sometimes it is very hard to know but the bar or the waitress should somehow make it known that the girl in question is a ladyboy. It got me so upset that I left the bar immediately.

So I am sure many guys might have kissed or fondled the boobs without knowing.

I'm sure most guys have been 'caught out' by ladyboys in bars, because some of them are indeed absolutely gorgeous. But this is all part of the fun of being in exotic places experiencing new things surely. As ladyboys in bars are a much more accepted part of the scenery in Asia, I don't think it's the bar's responsibility to 'warn' the customer. After all as one poster said, some guys may be into ladyboys.

I've twice unknowingly asked ladyboys to be barfined. In both cases they laughed, as they were pleased to be thought of as desirable, before asking if I was sure I wanted them as they were in fact ladyboys. When they told me I was really surprised, as I honestly wouldn't have picked them as ladyboys, but I bought them another drink, chatted some more (often ladyboys have the best English in the bar) , then left, still chuckling that I hadn't been able to tell. All part of the fun of bar hopping in Asia.

[Sammon]

Oops; the bar in which the ladyboy was at wasn't 69; it was some other bar.

What I think is funny is when they kiss the ladyboys in the bar. I always wonder if the LB tells the guy before he barfines her since he definitely will find out in the room. In Cambodia, the poor has less protection than in Thailand. But then I'm assuming the guy knows since some guys like that kind of stuff; to each his own.

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Once I almost made a terrible mistake. It was long time ago when Patpong was the only place to go. I was in this bar a very beatifull girl with big boobs was dancing. I asked the wautress to bring her to my table. Immediately after there was another pretty girl I was interested in. So she was called to my table also. I ordered drinks for both of them. At this point one girl just whispered in my ear saying I like ladyboys. I asked her why? She replied the other girl is a ladyboy. Other ladyboy guy was trying to kiss me. I immediately called the waitress and her her ask him to go back dancing. Sometimes it is very hard to know but the bar or the waitress should somehow make it known that the girl in question is a ladyboy. It got me so upset that I left the bar immediately.

So I am sure many guys might have kissed or fondled the boobs without knowing.

[Fishfinger]

Wendella my comment wasn't aimed at you, each is entitled to his own opinion, like I said I personally would not post pictures either.

What I found incredible hypocritical were the moral judgement comments made by Pokey Penguin.

[Wendella]

1)

I thought I only put facts in that post; nothing about what is right or wrong. I even put the info on shame if you read the entire post (not clear, but I did imply it).

Yeah I guess I took it the wrong way, your line: "Hey Wendella, you have a new secret admirer! Too bad we can't be all like you! LOL!"

Later I was in bed about to go to sleep and thought, damn, that was a bit harsh what I just posted. Tried to go change it but forgot my password.

[GreenBud]

1) Couple of cute girls at Martinis wanted $30 for short time. One (who was one of the cutest I've seen there) said short time would be 30 minutes (WTF! I've never heard that before in Asia; I passed). The other countered with $30 when I offered $20; she said short time would be 1 hour. I hesitated, then another monger swooped her up fast. It seems that upward pricing pressures is continuing, especially for the cute girls since they will always get the punter who is willing to pay a few extra bucks.
2) Some girls will not do BJs at Martinis.
3) Some girls will do BJs at Martinis, but will refuse to do a lot of it.

3) Irritating that some bars employ ladyboys.

But I was in 69; they had one that was hard to tell;

Oops; the bar in which the ladyboy was at wasn't 69; it was some other bar.

If the bars employ them it is a bad thing for us because maybe after a few drinks we might barfine without knowing and get angry.

What I think is funny is when they kiss the ladyboys in the bar. I always wonder if the LB tells the guy before he barfines her since he definitely will find out in the room. In Cambodia, the poor has less protection than in Thailand. But then I'm assuming the guy knows since some guys like that kind of stuff; to each his own.

So to make sure she can pay him some tea-money when she goes out again?

To make sure that she has enough money to gamble with. Most poor Cambodians are not going to have a hundred dollars in their purse; this keeps out the poor Cambodians from site seeing.

Well in a way I admire the way you

I thought I only put facts in that post; nothing about what is right or wrong. I even put the info on shame if you read the entire post (not clear, but I did imply it).