Phnom Penh

[KrumeLurer]

Nobody knows what I pay except me and the girl. Personally, in the interaction between male and female for purchasing pussy, I find it distasteful to nickel and dime over a few dollars because I think the locals payless. I don't think it's good for the interaction between the parties when it all starts off with the dude telling the girl sweetie you're not worth the extra five bucks.

And folks wonder why gentleman from India are looked down upon by the bar girls in Bangkok. I'm sure the cheap Charlie's get some eye rolls in Phnom too.

P.S. in my social circle, girls in Europe aren't $50. If you're really interested in cheap fun, try Gary Indiana.

I don't think its so distastefull at all to ask for prices that are not to different from what is a reasonable price in that country. Does not have to be exactly what the local guys pay but we can not go in to an amount of money that is DOUBLE or more than what the local guys pay. Thats overpricing tourists. And it does not really seem to be a model that is working good for anyone. We are not talking about "five bucks" as you write. We are talking about DOUBLE the money, ok?

Indian guys make the same money as people in Thailand, if they are to travel to Thailand then why should they pay so much more?

When on this webpage we see ads for what it cost in Europe. What is the point for many guys to pay expensive flights and long vacations to then pay almost the same? It makes no sense. And it does not really work out well for anyone in the end.

But if you have a ton of money and want to spend big, then go ahead. To me it does not matter. I don't feel more prestigous just because I pay a girl in PP 50 dollars when she would go with a local for 20 dollars. And paying 50 dollars does nto break my bankaccount.

[Nyezhov]

If you think you look better than others by paying double or more than what the local guys pay, then that's up to you. I rather pay a fee closer to what locals pay and save my money. What is the point of paying for expensive flights and then end up paying what you pay in Europe? Western Europe that is. It makes no sense at all.

Its also seems like PP barscene is not that popular and still they are having a high pricing strategy. Not enough people comes but yes, lets keep the prices high for the few that does come.

Nobody knows what I pay except me and the girl. Personally, in the interaction between male and female for purchasing pussy, I find it distasteful to nickel and dime over a few dollars because I think the locals payless. I don't think it's good for the interaction between the parties when it all starts off with the dude telling the girl sweetie you're not worth the extra five bucks.

And folks wonder why gentleman from India are looked down upon by the bar girls in Bangkok. I'm sure the cheap Charlie's get some eye rolls in Phnom too.

P.S. in my social circle, girls in Europe aren't $50. If you're really interested in cheap fun, try Gary Indiana.

[KrumeLurer]

If you're worrying over $20 perhaps you should give up hookers and try masturbation.

If you think you look better than others by paying double or more than what the local guys pay, then that's up to you. I rather pay a fee closer to what locals pay and save my money. What is the point of paying for expensive flights and then end up paying what you pay in Europe? Western Europe that is. It makes no sense at all.

Its also seems like PP barscene is not that popular and still they are having a high pricing strategy. Not enough people comes but yes, lets keep the prices high for the few that does come.

[Betong]

. . . the infamous Cyrcee's Secret Bar on 130

Just to clarify, the place on 130 was the second and final location of Cyrcee. The French-Algerian guy sold it and it has reopened under the new owner, a Khmer I think. New name, which I don't remember. Only has a few girls at present. "Sona Secret Horny Bar", which occupies the original location of Cyrcee on St. 49, has a bigger and better selection. But forget the rooms upstairs. Unless they were holding out on me there's no bed, just a really uncomfortable little wooden sofa. Better to walk over to Happiness GH, the place they normally use, and pay a few bucks for a decent room.

[Nyezhov]

How about a little moon rock on a nice Peppina pizza from BKK with some magic mushrooms thrown on top? That should make you very happy!

Pizza Pala Romana at Asoke MRT.

[Bigstud]

Not when you are from the States mate, hell I've put decarbed Moon Rocks on pizza like oregano, yum nomnom.

Now if the pizza was good, and the weed was better than mountain ditchweed, that would be one thing.

Did ya ever watch villagers smoke weed? They chop up ditchweed with tobacco into a fine powder and then rip it from Bamboo bongs. Its horrible just to think of.

How about a little moon rock on a nice Peppina pizza from BKK with some magic mushrooms thrown on top? That should make you very happy!

[Nyezhov]

Excellent report and you have convinced me to at least spend a few days there in addition to Thailand just for a change in scenery. You mentioned using a short time hotel for one of your sessions. Was there any reason why you didn't use your own hotel this time? What was the rate for that short time room?

Thats sort of like going from an FKK to a Nigerian Chicken shack for a change of scene.

You want a change of scene from Thaialnd? Not enough monegring cities there?

[WintersLight]

Excellent report and you have convinced me to at least spend a few days there in addition to Thailand just for a change in scenery. You mentioned using a short time hotel for one of your sessions. Was there any reason why you didn't use your own hotel this time? What was the rate for that short time room?

Thanks for reminder about room cost, I forgot to mention that. It was $8 USD or the equivalent in Cambodian riel for 1 HR'ish (they didn't really give a time limit, we were in there about 75 mins without any call or hassle).

Reason for it is pretty uncomplicated but silly: I had already brought two different women back over three nights to my hotel, so just didn't want to bother this time, and also it was a little earlier in the evening, when the cute hotel desk girl on the day-shift was still working, LOL. Once the night shift guy started at 10 pm, I didn't care what he thought. (Seriously, these idiot things actually went through my head). Also wanted to try the short-time hotel experience out, and since it wasn't that terrible I did it the next night too. And, finally, my hotel was about a 7-10 min tuk-tuk ride away, but the short-term hotel was just a block.

Thanks for the kind words about the report! Like I noted, BKK has the prettier girls for sure, and the most variety of ways to hook up with them, but PP has more girls that are still all-natural in terms of no plastic surgery, and it was just a lot more fun to be with them, even if they were probably more 7's than 9's or 10's. Less plastic both in appearance and attitude, I guess, just a chiller vibe for me anyway. And you're not wading through a huge scrum of other dudes to find them, like in BKK.

[Exoticspirit]

Since we went to their short-time hotel, the sessions were each a little over one hour, as none of us really wanted to hang out there after the business was done. You could also take them to your hotel, if you'd prefer.

Excellent report and you have convinced me to at least spend a few days there in addition to Thailand just for a change in scenery. You mentioned using a short time hotel for one of your sessions. Was there any reason why you didn't use your own hotel this time? What was the rate for that short time room?

[SouthEaster]

You are right about 50 dollars being expensive for Cambodia. Unfortunately it seems to be the going rate. Yes some will go for less but there is a lot of pressure from other girls in the bar and other bars to not drop the price. Add in the barfine and lady drinks and it is BS but the market has been boosted to this level and it is not easy to dodge, especially if you are only staying a few days or a week.

The guy below who paid a 15 dollar barfine and another 50 bucks for a girl that contacted him is a good example of how to save some dough if you try a bit. First off, tell her to come over the following day before work (no barfine) and offer 30 bucks instead of 50. Half price session and everybody wins. Would she have taken the offer? Who knows, probably a 50/50 chance but well worth a try. Some expats with a lot of time do this, but they have the luxury of. Time.

[Nyezhov]

When reading here and hearing on youtube about PP barscene I hear that ST is 50 US dollars + 15 US dollars for the barfine. It seems like alot for Cambodia and what the average monthly salary is there. Is it really true? Or is it just that the women try 50 dollars but will accept 30 if you insist on paying 30? 30 dollars is 10% of an average monthly salary in PP.

https://checkinprice.com/average-and...penh-cambodia/

It does not seem to me that with so many girls sitting around that it should be hard to find any girl that is ok with 30 us dollars. It just seems very very strange that you should be turned down by an average looking girl (6/10) for 30 dollars in a country with little customers and low wages. Accroding to what I hear the local cambodian guys pays around 20 dollars.

Or is this reports about some guy wanting a really good looking girl and getting a price of 50 dollars for ST? Sure of she is 8+ then she will proberbly ask more.

If you're worrying over $20 perhaps you should give up hookers and try masturbation.

[WintersLight]

When reading here and hearing on youtube about PP barscene I hear that ST is 50 US dollars + 15 US dollars for the barfine. It seems like alot for Cambodia and what the average monthly salary is there. Is it really true? Or is it just that the women try 50 dollars but will accept 30 if you insist on paying 30? 30 dollars is 10% of an average monthly salary in PP.

https://checkinprice.com/average-and...penh-cambodia/

It does not seem to me that with so many girls sitting around that it should be hard to find any girl that is ok with 30 us dollars. It just seems very very strange that you should be turned down by an average looking girl (6/10) for 30 dollars in a country with little customers and low wages. Accroding to what I hear the local cambodian guys pays around 20 dollars.

Or is this reports about some guy wanting a really good looking girl and getting a price of 50 dollars for ST? Sure of she is 8+ then she will proberbly ask more.

Yeah that's a good question. I didn't bother to negotiate because I thought the girls were worth it, and because I didn't want them to lose face (pride is a BIG thing in Cambodia, as it is in many Asian countries of course), especially on a first impression. But I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to counter with $40 and just see what happens. I'd probably wouldn't risk offering $30-$35, though, as those days seem to be a long time ago, and the market seems to have been really reset after COVID and after the influx of Chinese / Korean / Japanese tourists who don't mind paying whatever. Sure you'll have some old-timers on the board who'll tell us all about the times they had four girls over at once for $5 each, and they each made the guy breakfast afterwards, etc etc, but those prices might just exist in memory now.

Also, at the bars I was at, it seemed like it was actually still the mama-san who gave you the quotes both for barfines AND the ST / LT fees, instead of the girl, so in those cases it's simply a matter of the business owner setting the market price for their products (ie their girls). The mama-san isn't letting their product walk out the door for $35, that's for sure, so you would need to whisper / negotiate directly with the girl. And the girl isn't about to let her friends / coorkers know that she's only worth $35-$40 to this dude who just walked in, she's got a reputation too, LOL, so it'd have to be just between you. If you're picking up a freelancer at Pontoon or Shanghai or wherever, though, you should probably bargain; in my cases I didn't because I thought the girl was worth it, but next time I would.

I know what you mean about cost of living, but also remember that the girls working in these spots are probably blowing a lot of that money just to stay competitive in that scene: makeup, clothes, paying for that shit plastic surgeon, etc. (Especially those girls on 130/136). I don't know if you've ever browsed through the IG's of some of these bar girls (I started following a few just for fun), but they at least like to pretend they're living a Gucci life, and that costs way more than the average cost of living. There's a bunch of newish malls in PP with all the fancy brand-name stores, and those $50ST fees are probably funding some of them.

I'd imagine there are plenty of local spots that are just $20 or whatever, but you're probably getting what you pay for, and that's probably a stained mattress on the floor of some non aircon'd flophouse, with five minutes of the "old in-and-out. ' But all in all, it's a good question, and you might as well bargain for less than $50, and just go from there.

[WombatEd2]

Hi All, just returned from a work trip to Phnom Penh, Bangkok and Singapore, for about a week each. Didn't do much in Singapore due to work commitments, but did have some time in the other spots.

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Great report. Thank you.

[KrumeLurer]

When reading here and hearing on youtube about PP barscene I hear that ST is 50 US dollars + 15 US dollars for the barfine. It seems like alot for Cambodia and what the average monthly salary is there. Is it really true? Or is it just that the women try 50 dollars but will accept 30 if you insist on paying 30? 30 dollars is 10% of an average monthly salary in PP.

https://checkinprice.com/average-and...penh-cambodia/

It does not seem to me that with so many girls sitting around that it should be hard to find any girl that is ok with 30 us dollars. It just seems very very strange that you should be turned down by an average looking girl (6/10) for 30 dollars in a country with little customers and low wages. Accroding to what I hear the local cambodian guys pays around 20 dollars.

Or is this reports about some guy wanting a really good looking girl and getting a price of 50 dollars for ST? Sure of she is 8+ then she will proberbly ask more.

[Globalnomad5]

Fantastic report, thanks WintersLight.

Definitely RoD.

Hi All, just returned from a work trip to Phnom Penh, Bangkok and Singapore, for about a week each. Didn't do much in Singapore due to work commitments, but did have some time in the other spots.