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[Eaglestar]

I just found this. Likely this chap did not contract his bug in China but ya never know do ya??

https://www.yahoo.com/news/super-gon...201826422.html

[Ikksman]

Wechat surreptitiously copies and stores all the photos in your albums and stores it in the app on your phone. Tencent is then able to upload the photos to its servers.

I don't know whether or not it does the upload automatically or on command. In any event, those photos can by used in cyberpolicing activity, possibly to the detriment of you or your friends.

[Midwestern]

I recently asked my ATF to stay from Friday evening to Sunday. Spent two nights together. We've been seeing each other for more than 2 years so naturally we know each other well and there's a certain level of trust. So I simply asked her, how much she wanted for it. She told me 10000 and that's the number I had in my mind as well, so I paid it. (Well, I paid 2 x 5200) She was worth it.

I mean, if she's your ATF and you have a connection with her. I assume you kind of know how much she's asking for certain services, and you kind of have an expectation as well. And then just. Ask her?

Thanks for sharing your experience, MAarcade. But it seems one major difference between us is that I'm asking her to fly to see me. Anyway, I think I'll go with 10,000 if I proceed with this. But a fellow monger friend of mine on here gave me sage advice, which is to find a new ATF. He is probably right. And it'll save me money, LOL.

[MArcade]

I am thinking about flying a former ATF who lives in another city to my city for 3 days, 2 nights. I used to pay her 1000 for ST and 2000 for LT. I'll reimburse her flights, but how much more should I give her? Is 10,000 too much, which is essentially 5000 for two LTs? I'm obviously trying to compensate her for all the traveling she'll have to do. Anyone know the pricing for this? Anyone have any experience doing this?

I recently asked my ATF to stay from Friday evening to Sunday. Spent two nights together. We've been seeing each other for more than 2 years so naturally we know each other well and there's a certain level of trust. So I simply asked her, how much she wanted for it. She told me 10000 and that's the number I had in my mind as well, so I paid it. (Well, I paid 2 x 5200) She was worth it.

I mean, if she's your ATF and you have a connection with her. I assume you kind of know how much she's asking for certain services, and you kind of have an expectation as well. And then just. Ask her?

[Midwestern]

I am thinking about flying a former ATF who lives in another city to my city for 3 days, 2 nights. I used to pay her 1000 for ST and 2000 for LT. I'll reimburse her flights, but how much more should I give her? Is 10,000 too much, which is essentially 5000 for two LTs? I'm obviously trying to compensate her for all the traveling she'll have to do. Anyone know the pricing for this? Anyone have any experience doing this?

[TomSf]

With the news the Chinese president is changing laws so he can be president for life. China will not return to its glory it used to be. Dong Guan ext. Too bad, he does not like this hobby and the crackdown will continue for his life. I always thought with a new president this would blow over. But, because China is very controlled by the government. Any election will be fixed. Already the government rigged the internet so you can't look up certain terms associated with the presidential race. Too bad.

[OnceUponATimee]

Hey guys,

I used to frequent this spa on Anhua Lu (close to the intersection of Jiangsu Lu. It looked like a usual multi storey building from outside and had a side entrance. Lift to go up once you change downstairs into those kimono gowns. A stage for like up and further up on 3-4 floor rooms. It is also listed on happymassage.

However when I went there yesterday, I saw that the gate was closed. The guy I used to call for selection is also not picking up his phone. I am afraid this place may have shut down in wake of recent crack downs in Shanghai. Wondering if any one here knows about this place being open or relocated to another area? Perhaps a back entrance?

Can one of you help me with an alternate contact in Zhongshan park or gubei or Changning area please? PM ME.

Peace.

[TonyXu]

Can you read, write, speak, hear Mandarin (putonghua)?

What is your budget?

Do you know Shanghai well enough to be able to easily navigate with the Underground Railway, buses, taxis etc. ?

P13.

Yeah, I can speak and read Chinese. Come on, taking the subway is not that difficult, even if you do not understand Chinese.

Budget? Have not given it much thought. But less than 1500 for an hour or so I think that is what saunas charge, don't they? (Never tried it).

[DoubleHappy]

Can you read, write, speak, hear Mandarin (putonghua)?

What is your budget?

Do you know Shanghai well enough to be able to easily navigate with the Underground Railway, buses, taxis etc. ?

P13.

I sorry to tell guys. QQ girls only accept Chinese. Not foreigners. They think Foreigners are too strong and too big for them. Hahaha.

[Pushkin13]

Hi there,

Does anyone know any sites like SHLF, that has ads with QQ or WeChat numbers of independent girls?

Most of the girls do not speak English but they are much cheaper than escort agencies.

Any recommendations?

Cheers,

Tony.

Can you read, write, speak, hear Mandarin (putonghua)?

What is your budget?

Do you know Shanghai well enough to be able to easily navigate with the Underground Railway, buses, taxis etc. ?

P13.

[TonyXu]

Hi there,

Does anyone know any sites like SHLF, that has ads with QQ or WeChat numbers of independent girls?

Most of the girls do not speak English but they are much cheaper than escort agencies.

Any recommendations?

Cheers,

Tony.

[ShangaiGrils]

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[AlphaPunk2]

Many VPNs have been removed and are no longer working. This was especially evident before and during the congress meeting. Only a few tier 1 VPN service remains, mainly ExpressVPN, VyprVPN, NordVPN etc.

I found a great website that does speed testing and reviews of VPNs in China: www.jumpthegreatfirewall.com.

Stay safe everyone!

Yes I agree. ExpressVPN still works with very little problems. Thanks for the review site BTW.

[ImAFisher]

There has been a fair bit of chatter on the Shanghai forum about VPNs and related issues (and why it is continuing on the Shanghai forum rather than here is beyond me). I suggest that none of us know the true capabilities of their cyber intelligence, interception, deciphering, deep packet inspection and data extraction capabilities. I previously had some insight into these matters, but wisely do not investigate these areas.

I think that the only matter of relevance to mongering is the ability to safely access various websites, and I stand by my recent post in this forum for reliable and reasonably anonymous web browsing.

BTW, I do not believe that the Chinese authorities have any specific interest in the mongering habits of foreigners, particularly when Chinese mongers outnumber foreigners 10,000 to 1. Dongguan was a slightly different kettle of smelly fish as CP had become a major sex tourist destination for foreigners, and a potential embarrassment to China.

Ikks.

Many VPNs have been removed and are no longer working. This was especially evident before and during the congress meeting. Only a few tier 1 VPN service remains, mainly ExpressVPN, VyprVPN, NordVPN etc.

I found a great website that does speed testing and reviews of VPNs in China: www.jumpthegreatfirewall.com.

Stay safe everyone!

[Intransit]

http://www.sixthtone.com/news/100126...tution-problem

Long article on the "state of the industry. " Very interesting. Too long and too much formatting to post here. Worth a read if you follow this sort of thing.