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  1. #11719
    Quote Originally Posted by BurnNotice  [View Original Post]
    I am quite a regular in the bars in Beijing and I have to say that from where I stand, WG prices are going up because supply of girls is shrinking. The supply of girls is coming down because the demand is coming down. The law of economics says that if demand is coming down then pricing should come down but, in the WG sex economics law that ain't happening!.

    Let me explain my ISG economics theory that seems to be so clear in my head after 10 mojitos!

    First, where are you guys? There is a lot less foreigners living in BJ then 5 years ago and it looks like people do not do meeting anymore in the capital but are going to other cities. A friend manager in one of the 5 stars hotel was confirming me that foreigners from Europe or america are in steep reduction while travelers from Japan, Korea, Singapore, Russian, Thailand, India Malaysia are taking the place. He says only Australian maintain the rhythm. This switch of foreigners is definitely affecting the bar I go and it is affecting this board too! Look at how many reviews were done this month.

    Xiu and chocolate are regularly empty or filled with foreigners not taking girls out. To deal with that situation, the girls are converging to Maggie's during the evening. It seems the only place for girls where they can hook up a guy. That creates an excess of supply in Maggie's for one or two evening an then the hot girl decide to move to another city leaving the place to the old and not so hot girls that feel empower to charge a high price.

    That being said, we are a bit in a hole these days in the capital. We have hard time to attract talent WG because our core customer block is shrinking and concentrate in Maggie's. I met a very hot Mongolian girl with her friend at Maggie's last week. It was their second day and they were already announcing that they were not staying moving the next day to shanghai.

    Their conclusion, 'Beijing is shit for business' " Not good for us if the high roller girls do not stay. That means the older and fatter gets the room for them an charge way too much. 1500 rmb ST for a 4 or 5! That's ridiculous.
    I think I can help with your 10 mojito hangover. Beijing has been shit for mongering for a hell of a long time. Hard to pin it down exactly, but how long has the hard rock been dead? Also, I remember being able to walk into pretty much any bar in sanlitun and finding quite a selection. Before 3+3 came in.

    However, I don't think that alone is the cause of the lack of quality content in this forum. For that, I think you only need to look as far as some of the senior members of this forum. Very recent example: guy posts legitimate review of Bella and gets slammed by two "know it all" members. Now, how do I know it's a legit review: 1) it's absolutely inline with all of the other reviews for her (do a quick search), 2) I know her and a) I'm 100% certain that the closest she'd ever get to using a tout is asking a John to post a review, and b) it absolutely fits my experience. In fact, I was so impressed with her after one meeting that I'd even considered taking a trip to Beijing just to see her. And I'm friends with a member that's known her for about 6 years.

    A less recent example is a string involving me. I had asked for some help in Beijing (at the time I was very active in the Shanghai forum and had hoped that would translate to some goodwill in Beijing. I was wrong), not only did I get none, when I did post a review of a disappointing experience with kitty, all I got was some senior members coming down on me for helping to raise the prices in Beijing.

    You guys need to get over yourselves and try to promote safe mongering. I mean, that is what ISG is all about, right?

    Sorry for the harsh words, but I felt it needed to be said. Burn notice: this is not directed towards you, it just happened to fit in with your observation.

    Cheers,

    Taz.
    Last edited by Tazman099; 09-24-16 at 15:09. Reason: Clarification

  2. #11718
    Quote Originally Posted by BurnNotice  [View Original Post]
    If you have a bit of game, the roof top bar Migas in Sanlitun. Many hot Chinese girls looking for a hot western boyfriend. The language barrier becomes a challenge very quick but if you can overcome it with google translate or a local friend you will find what you are looking for.
    Mate you seem to have update info about the pickup bars in Beijing, do you have info about Shanghai also because as far as I know only Manhattan and Judy's were there. What about the mongols, Chinese or Russians or Stani brigade where do they converge in Shanghai. I've tried bar rouge but its 50/50 chances there someday are good some bad, you can enlighten us about the places in shanghai also.

    Cheers.

  3. #11717

    Is writing a positive review a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreebieFan  [View Original Post]
    Lovely review. But with one post only, being this particular one, no one is going to believe you.

    Wow an escort that is close to being perfect. Amazing. Weve never had such reviews here before.

    Its kind of sad that you consider the intelligence level of the board members here to be on a par with yours.
    Well, as I said in the post, I don't usually like to share my personal experiences on the field and I am now even more convinced of that. Perhaps our intelligence is really not on the same level. Perhaps, differently from you I don't need to show off about my loving skills and conquering power to feel like a real man.

    I was kindly asked to leave a review and I did my best to convey my personal experience. You are totally free not to believe me but before accusing me of being in bad faith, perhaps you should check the thread: there are quite a few more reviews on the same girls by members with more contributions that mine and I think they are not so different. Did I write them all? Fortunately I have more interesting things to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferios  [View Original Post]
    I talked with Bella and she send me her pictures. Quite lovely girl and she has great personality. I can tell she is lovely and funny. I can understand difference because of talking. She told me she is 160 and she had next door girl body type. But she is charging 18000 RMB / hour. With that price I can't meet with anyone. Overpriced.
    This is a much more fair comment. I agree, 1800 RMB is definitely an investment (I guess I was lucky enough to catch her before she raised her fare, so I paid "only" 1600) but I can only say that after trying other providers at half the cost, I would prefer one session with Bella than 2 with any girl that makes fake moans and moves like a robot. Personal taste.

  4. #11716

    Migas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferios  [View Original Post]
    Then what should I do for hot Chinese girl? I'm tall, fit, European guy with colored eyes. Do you think I can find girl for free in clubs? Or you suggest to pass time wasting and contact with Kitty or Angel? BTW how is nuru massage in China? Is it good or they just faking it?
    If you have a bit of game, the roof top bar Migas in Sanlitun. Many hot Chinese girls looking for a hot western boyfriend. The language barrier becomes a challenge very quick but if you can overcome it with google translate or a local friend you will find what you are looking for.

  5. #11715

    Beijing bars for WG are lacking talent these days

    I am quite a regular in the bars in Beijing and I have to say that from where I stand, WG prices are going up because supply of girls is shrinking. The supply of girls is coming down because the demand is coming down. The law of economics says that if demand is coming down then pricing should come down but, in the WG sex economics law that ain't happening!.

    Let me explain my ISG economics theory that seems to be so clear in my head after 10 mojitos!

    First, where are you guys? There is a lot less foreigners living in BJ then 5 years ago and it looks like people do not do meeting anymore in the capital but are going to other cities. A friend manager in one of the 5 stars hotel was confirming me that foreigners from Europe or america are in steep reduction while travelers from Japan, Korea, Singapore, Russian, Thailand, India Malaysia are taking the place. He says only Australian maintain the rhythm. This switch of foreigners is definitely affecting the bar I go and it is affecting this board too! Look at how many reviews were done this month.

    Xiu and chocolate are regularly empty or filled with foreigners not taking girls out. To deal with that situation, the girls are converging to Maggie's during the evening. It seems the only place for girls where they can hook up a guy. That creates an excess of supply in Maggie's for one or two evening an then the hot girl decide to move to another city leaving the place to the old and not so hot girls that feel empower to charge a high price.

    That being said, we are a bit in a hole these days in the capital. We have hard time to attract talent WG because our core customer block is shrinking and concentrate in Maggie's. I met a very hot Mongolian girl with her friend at Maggie's last week. It was their second day and they were already announcing that they were not staying moving the next day to shanghai.

    Their conclusion, 'Beijing is shit for business' " Not good for us if the high roller girls do not stay. That means the older and fatter gets the room for them an charge way too much. 1500 rmb ST for a 4 or 5! That's ridiculous.

  6. #11714
    Quote Originally Posted by BurnNotice  [View Original Post]
    You can try Xiu or Swing. But lately these two places have been really so so and I should say below acceptable minimum.
    Then what should I do for hot Chinese girl? I'm tall, fit, European guy with colored eyes. Do you think I can find girl for free in clubs? Or you suggest to pass time wasting and contact with Kitty or Angel? BTW how is nuru massage in China? Is it good or they just faking it?

  7. #11713

    Hot slim chinese!

    Maggies or Chocolate are definitely not a place for hot Chinese. Maggies is majority Mongolian and chocolate well you never know but Russians, Ukrainians and a bunch of country finishing by. Istan. For Chinese and I'm not necessary saying hot! You can try Xiu or Swing. But lately these two places have been really so so and I should say below acceptable minimum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferios  [View Original Post]
    I talked with Bella and she send me her pictures. Quite lovely girl and she has great personality. I can tell she is lovely and funny. I can understand difference because of talking. She told me she is 160 and she had next door girl body type. But she is charging 18000 RMB / hour. With that price I can't meet with anyone. Overpriced.

    Now I'm thinking about Nuru or B2 B Massage. Do you guys have any suggestion? Which one I should choose? Lemon Tree, Sophie's Place or Wonderfull Massage? Or should I pass the massage and go to Maggie's or Chocolate to find hot slim Chinese girl?

  8. #11712

    Bella

    I talked with Bella and she send me her pictures. Quite lovely girl and she has great personality. I can tell she is lovely and funny. I can understand difference because of talking. She told me she is 160 and she had next door girl body type. But she is charging 18000 RMB / hour. With that price I can't meet with anyone. Overpriced.

    Now I'm thinking about Nuru or B2 B Massage. Do you guys have any suggestion? Which one I should choose? Lemon Tree, Sophie's Place or Wonderfull Massage? Or should I pass the massage and go to Maggie's or Chocolate to find hot slim Chinese girl?

  9. #11711
    Quote Originally Posted by NaughtyInBJ  [View Original Post]
    Hi!

    I have been following this forum for a while but I'm not the type of person that usually shares his experiences (I know, my bad.) so this is my very first post.

    I met Bella (see the classified ad section) a few weeks ago after seeing her ad and a few very positive reviews here. Well. Our meeting was way better than I had expected! I had lots of fun (she is a very smart and easy going girl) and one of the best sex of my life. Not only she has a great body and sexual skills but she also has the best attitude: she is very eager to please, super energetic and she clearly enjoys herself in the process, which is something that really turns me on.

    I called her once out of curiosity and a few days later I had to repeat and repeat again. My first instinct would be to keep such a treasure for myself but she asked me to please help her increase her business and I think she really deserves my little help. I have tried cheaper options in Beijing but in the future I will definitely save that money for her.
    Lovely review. But with one post only, being this particular one, no one is going to believe you.

    Wow an escort that is close to being perfect. Amazing. Weve never had such reviews here before.

    Its kind of sad that you consider the intelligence level of the board members here to be on a par with yours.

  10. #11710

    Kittys

    Sorry for the late post, has been a bit crazy lately.

    Went to Beijing, tried Kitty's service. Overall great experience, reliable, prompt. First girl was very young XiaoXiao if I recall correctly. Great service, but only spoke Mandarin initially very good but got too tired after 30-40 minutes or so. Next girl forgot the name was OK and nice experience. Would definitely repeat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaywhy  [View Original Post]
    I've only tried Kitty a few times. Service was prompt, no upsell or BS by the girl. That said, when one says girl next door. I say yes, very much girl next door. And not the one you had in your dream last night. But heck, for a guaranteed rate of 700, not bad. Again, people's tastes differ. I've had one of the girls reviewed quite a few times here and I didn't find her attractive at all.

    Now yesterday I decided to try out the place that sounds like a former American president up north beyond the 5th ring. It's been 9 months since my last venture. Geez, most closed or have changed to HJ only places, no more 300 kuwai. But the one one the second floor on the south side of the street past the parking lot was still game. Flugly but I wanted to drop a load so did my 300. Ok, time to really forget Beijing, only place left that is reliable but a bit more costly is the be building in CY. Unfortunately, that place is mostly dead and more residents than before, but try the 4th floor and you can still find fun if you are a regular.

  11. #11709

    Bella Peking, way beyond expectations

    Hi!

    I have been following this forum for a while but I'm not the type of person that usually shares his experiences (I know, my bad.) so this is my very first post.

    I met Bella (see the classified ad section) a few weeks ago after seeing her ad and a few very positive reviews here. Well. Our meeting was way better than I had expected! I had lots of fun (she is a very smart and easy going girl) and one of the best sex of my life. Not only she has a great body and sexual skills but she also has the best attitude: she is very eager to please, super energetic and she clearly enjoys herself in the process, which is something that really turns me on.

    I called her once out of curiosity and a few days later I had to repeat and repeat again. My first instinct would be to keep such a treasure for myself but she asked me to please help her increase her business and I think she really deserves my little help. I have tried cheaper options in Beijing but in the future I will definitely save that money for her.

  12. #11708

    Recommend you pay 20 $ to get PM

    On the left side of the start page you find all you need to know, how to do.

    G.

    Quote Originally Posted by VHappyMassager  [View Original Post]
    Hello!

    I will soon be coming to Beijing for a week and I would like to get into massages with happy ending. I never did this before, so I would like something easy and safe.

    I am looking for some cute Asian girls and at an affordable price (is that possible? I would prefer independent / private girls but I don't mind, I just want to get started.

    Thanks!

  13. #11707

    Happy Ending massages

    Hello!

    I will soon be coming to Beijing for a week and I would like to get into massages with happy ending. I never did this before, so I would like something easy and safe.

    I am looking for some cute Asian girls and at an affordable price (is that possible? I would prefer independent / private girls but I don't mind, I just want to get started.

    Thanks!

  14. #11706

    First time to Beijing

    I will be visiting Beijing for the first time as a tourist. What would be a good hotel of choice in a touristy area for in-house fun at a spa (with at least he or more).

  15. #11705

    Beijinggrace from classified add in this site

    She is amazing performer, very warm and understanding, enthusiastic and happy person.

    Body 7.

    BBBJ 10.

    Massage 8.

    Attitude 10.

    GFE 10.

    Face 7.

    Worth every penny.

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