North China - Beijing

[Sammy_T]

I have received confirmed reports that Beijing undercover police are waiting outside of known mongering venues and following patrons home. It seems they are primarily targeting our Northern Sisters, but needless to say, this is not a situation in which you want to be caught.

Almost all of the girls I know have gone home for the next couple of weeks. I recommend we all keep a low profile until this situation calms down. I am certain we are on the path to recovery, otherwise Maggie’s would not have re-opened, but the notice of Maggie’s by the international press certainly does not help matters.

Be careful out there…

Sammy

[ValeVincent]

My first time to China and I have spent a while rtff. I'm looking for massage places like the Shanghai Hotel Sauna in Beijing? But can seem to find any mentioned - is Beijing simply devoid of hotel saunas?

[Jake277]

Stayed at the Hilton just before Thanksgiving. BTW cold as hell that weekend. Went to a bar located on the street just behind the hotel called Bar One.

I have not seen anyone mention it on the forum but I would suggest going. Loaded with girls and the taxi driver who took us their told us it had the same owner as Maggies? True or not I don't know but the girls were definately there.

Have fun and let me know if it still has the same results. The weekend was best.

Jake

[Schubba]

I was Friday in Beijing. Started at P&W and there was the regular Mongolian girls as well as the Chinese. The place was not packed. So at 11pm I took of to Sanlitun, but there it was dead. At 12 I went to Maggies and stayed till 1.30am. It was also so empty. No Mongolians and only some Chinese drinking girls in the bar. I never seen the bar so quiet.

Its a little pity, as I plan to spend the near coming New Year in Beijing.

[Mianbao]

Bender Over,

Yes it was blocked before the Olympics and I guess will stay this way. I also log on via a proxy.

Post a classified on any of the expat websites for activity partners or "someone fun to hang out with" and you'll get some responses. You will need to waste some time on meetings to weed out those with no potential but if here for the long term it's one way to get freebies. Just watch out for the ones that are only after shopping trips and string you along in return.

Don't know how much you are into BBS but there are a lot of them, the further out from the city centre the more there are, so in your case go further east.

Shuang,

I did not shag Lily but have met her, I would not go there, she has a poor attitude so it would likely be lousy.

Re: Maggies - shame it was short lived, fortunately I was there a week ago when it was pumping and got the phone number of a Vietnamese girl with a great body, real GFE as Viets tend to be, but is leaving Beijing to go back to Hanoi today. She also had the address of Suzy Wong's on her so not sure if that will turn out to be the next best option.

[Bender Over]

Newbie here to Beijing, and just wanted to say hi to everyone. I’ve been to Shanghai and HK in the past and have browsed through this site as a guest for info. Recently made a long term move to Beijing and I hope I’ll be able to contribute some reports soon.

Just a few questions though:

Is this forum blocked by China? I was only able to access this site through a proxy…I don’t remember having to do so about a year ago when I was in Shanghai or HK. The connection is rather slow.

I live right across the street from SOHO and have already come across some massage places or bath houses near guo mao and was wondering if there were any other hot spots nearby that some ISG veterans can point me towards.

As much as I enjoy hitting up the massage places or going to the bars for the pros, I also enjoy the occasional freebies and the semi-pros or the regular office girls. I already know about CFF and AFF (Again, was only able to get on those sites through a proxy), but does anyone know of any other good internet sites to browse on?

Thanks, and any info would be great.

Have a safe and merry Christmas everyone!

[Shuang]

Hi all,

I was approached by a girl on Skype, seems to live at Dawanglu, half russian half chinese, goes by the name of Lily. Says she is a single mother and making an extra buck by offering her services. Asked 1000RMB for 1 hour, seems on the high side however was wondering if any of you have experience with this girl. See also attached pict.

Cheers,

Shuang

[Bearsk]

Movie is a good idea. They often come with subtitles, its dark but it non confronting.

Gaoshou,

Bang away on the stewardess. Take her out once or twice, she'll make it pretty clear what she's up for. Don't be afraid to invite her for a movie. Good luck and please report back.

[Intransit]

Gaoshou,

Bang away on the stewardess. Take her out once or twice, she'll make it pretty clear what she's up for. Don't be afraid to invite her for a movie. Good luck and please report back.

[The Tanuki]

Thanks Michi!

It is duly noted! I am now informationly armed and dangerous!

Now just remember to post the Shanghai stories in the Shanghai forum...

Tankuki

[Sky Ryder]

Thanks Michi!

It is duly noted! I am now informationly armed and dangerous!

[Michi]

Let me start by saying a big thanks to World Travler SH for his hospitiaity. We started the evening by having a great dinner at a local restaurant. Then headed off to start with cocktails at a bar called Rendezvous, where we saw a "marignal" Pinay band. The funny thing was we hadn't been in the place for more than 5 mins. When a couple of girls came over and offered to let us buy them a drink. I kind of chuckled to myself thinking that didn't take long and it didn't look like a traditional "chica" bar. (I have to find the Mandarin equal phrase for Chica), and although there was some nice scenery decided to move on to a bar called Red Beat. A one word description of the band in this place. WOW! It is lead by three hot little Pinay's and the musicians backing them up are good as well. The smallest of the three gals has a voice that is off the hook! We listened to two sets and if there had been any available gals at all in the bar I would have stayed much longer!

We left and went into Manhattan, WT's first comment to me was "where are all the Pinay's" and he said he was surprised it wasn't more crowded. Being that is was my first visit I had no point of reference, but there weren't a lot of stunners. I guess I was expecting something on par with Fenwick's in HK, but not this night. We walked back to Judy's and it was worse, so back to Manhattan's. Found a great table and were approached almost instantly by a couple of gals. One was cute, but WAY too aggressive and took herslef out of the running. After about an hour or so, I noticed this curvy Chinese walk by and give me the eye. She was not the typical Chinese thin look, but had hips and "real" breasts. Just my type, and was somewhat demure as well. She gave me a bit of a shy look and since there was another girl occupying my time didn't approach. I shed the hanger on and motioned the object of my intentions over. Her name is Coco and after about 5 mins of conversation I knew she was the one for the night. We chatted for a few minutes and then decided to leave. She hadn't made any comment about money, and I decided not to bring it up. A bit of a gamble on my part, which almost was a mistake, but I had a good feeling about her.

Once back at the hotel, my inclinations turned out correct, she was the first really passionate Chinese gal I have met. Just as things were started to heat up, she asked me if I knew she needed money, I told yes and she said to me, "I trust you" and that was the end of the conversation.

Her oral skills were great and she was an active participant in all ways and appreared to enjoy the time as much as I did.

We went to sleep, enjoyed a hot chocolate this morning then she got ready to leave. That is when things got a little tense, I gave her 700 RMB plus taxi since it was a long way back into town. She did one of the things I really hate and counted the money in front of me and asked "Why you give me small money? " I replied that I thought it was the normal amount, she said for LT it was normal to pay 1200-1500. I had read the forum, but wasn't for sure if she was correct or not. I did have a great time, so I coughed up another 300 for 1000 total and she seemed at least placated. I have gone back a few weeks on this forum to see what the average fare is for LT and am still a little fuzzy on the exact fare.

I had a great time and will most likely call this lady again, but make sure we have an agreement on money before she shows up.

I have another night in Shanghai, so another opportunity awaits!

Pretty

Not from street.

Good service.

1000 should be fine for foreigners maybe plus small tip.

[Sky Ryder]

Let me start by saying a big thanks to World Travler SH for his hospitiaity. We started the evening by having a great dinner at a local restaurant. Then headed off to start with cocktails at a bar called Rendezvous, where we saw a "marignal" Pinay band. The funny thing was we hadn't been in the place for more than 5 mins. when a couple of girls came over and offered to let us buy them a drink. I kind of chuckled to myself thinking that didn't take long and it didn't look like a traditional "chica" bar. (I have to find the Mandarin equal phrase for Chica), and although there was some nice scenery decided to move on to a bar called Red Beat. A one word description of the band in this place.....WOW! It is lead by three hot little Pinay's and the musicians backing them up are good as well. The smallest of the three gals has a voice that is off the hook! We listened to two sets and if there had been any available gals at all in the bar I would have stayed much longer!
We left and went into Manhattan, WT's first comment to me was "where are all the Pinay's" and he said he was surprised it wasn't more crowded. Being that is was my first visit I had no point of reference, but there weren't a lot of stunners. I guess I was expecting something on par with Fenwick's in HK, but not this night. We walked back to Judy's and it was worse, so back to Manhattan's. Found a great table and were approached almost instantly by a couple of gals. One was cute, but WAY too aggressive and took herslef out of the running. After about an hour or so, I noticed this curvy Chinese walk by and give me the eye. She was not the typical Chinese thin look, but had hips and "real" breasts. Just my type, and was somewhat demure as well. She gave me a bit of a shy look and since there was another girl occupying my time didn't approach. I shed the hanger on and motioned the object of my intentions over. Her name is Coco and after about 5 mins of conversation I knew she was the one for the night. We chatted for a few minutes and then decided to leave. She hadn't made any comment about money, and I decided not to bring it up. A bit of a gamble on my part, which almost was a mistake, but I had a good feeling about her.
Once back at the hotel, my inclinations turned out correct, she was the first really passionate Chinese gal I have met. Just as things were started to heat up, she asked me if I knew she needed money, I told yes and she said to me, "I trust you" and that was the end of the conversation.
Her oral skills were great and she was an active participant in all ways and appreared to enjoy the time as much as I did.
We went to sleep, enjoyed a hot chocolate this morning then she got ready to leave. That is when things got a little tense, I gave her 700 RMB plus taxi since it was a long way back into town. She did one of the things I really hate and counted the money in front of me and asked "Why you give me small money?" I replied that I thought it was the normal amount, she said for LT it was normal to pay 1200-1500. I had read the forum, but wasn't for sure if she was correct or not. I did have a great time, so I coughed up another 300 for 1000 total and she seemed at least placated. I have gone back a few weeks on this forum to see what the average fare is for LT and am still a little fuzzy on the exact fare.
I had a great time and will most likely call this lady again, but make sure we have an agreement on money before she shows up.
I have another night in Shanghai, so another opportunity awaits!!

[Andreas Wang]

only a few additions to my last post.


had miss cheng over last sunday for dinner. nothing more, but she was kind enough to travel downtown from wangjing where she works.

as mentioned last time, she works as a tout in the lido area arranging girls for outcall. i interviewed her a bit about price levels in beijing from her perspective. as said she is arranging outcalls, so she knew best about those. here is how things break down:

she said of a st outcall 350 rmb go to the girl and the rest to the middle woman like her. sounds believable to me, i once got an offer on wangfujing for 400 rmb on a "take it or leave it" basis. i.e. for a cut of 50 rmb the middle lady did not want to negotiate too long. cheng for instance said she does not go lower than 150 rmb for her cut, i.e. 500 rmb in total. on the other hand she did not seem to mind if customers later hire the same directly without her as the middle woman ... saving her introduction fee. she sees her job as finding / introducing girls to those who won't do so themselves, not as a pimp taking a cut for every pop.

another thing she strongly recommended was being specific about what you want - in advance. asked about blowjobs for instance she said it is less a matter of price than a matter of the girl's attitude towards it. some will plain refuse no matter what, others will want 100 rmb extra and others include it without any extra fuss. she claimed that the girls doing outcalls are mostly ladies with day jobs doing this part time ranging from students, clerks, housewives to whatever. what was interesting is that she mentioned "good service" as one category that should be stressed during placing an order.

she was also pretty well informed where her colleagues seem to hang out. wangfujing is not far away from my home and she knows it is pretty full of facalitators like her. did not like to go there with me though to say hello, seems she liked to keep business and private a bit seperated. she also has one ktv / bar at hand and told that her cut for customers led there is 50%. but she openly admitted that she considers that rather expensive entertainment. she said it is okay for people who maybe need to treat someone, give face or have expense accounts to fleece, but she will not recommend it for straightforward bedsheet fun.

about the other ends of the spectrum (bbs and expat bars): her understanding of prices was that lowest price at bbs would be 200 fs st and 400 lt. for expat bars (she knows about the pig and has heard about maggies) she ventured 800 rmb st and double that lt. but you guys will know better than either of us i guess.

other than that was a really nice chat, talked a bit about her day job (she does the lady business on the side) had a nice dinner, and no: did not get her into bed. real pitty, she still claims to be 30 but i refuse to call her a mama until i saw her id. she called me up a few days later though at past 10 to make sure i add her new e-mail address on msn. i will not read into that a desperate call to sleep with me though.


which is a nice link over to the stewardess story of gaoshou. : )

sorry, but that "no experience ... give me some advice, will you?" can mean everything and nothing. hard as it may seem to believe (really?) people say a lot of things, half of them are hot air and the rest makes sense only from context or not at all. my guess is she wants career advice but what i really recommend is: ask her what she meant with that. you are already interested in knowing, so use it to your advantage and show it. she will probably mistake it as interest in her person, which is good for you. if nothing else it at least is a way to continue the conversation with her.

on second thought though, forget about it. just give me her contacts ... i will ask her for you. no ulterior motives here, seriously ... cross my heart. 0: )


over to my usual findings, i checked a bit more the bbs in the dongsi area (directions: close to dongsi subway stop of line 5, doh!). dongsibatiao has couple, as do dongseqitiao, dongsisi and dongsisan. the nearest landmark is maybe the super 8 hotel located there, though that one happens to be in the two hutongs without any bbs. had actiually fun in one place where the girls where very rushed ... in a funny way. very eager to wave passer bys in. went into the back room just to inquire and was grabbed and molested in a kind of reversal [CodeWord123] play, all in good humour of course. imagine the kind of fight locals put up over who pays the bill after dinner, only more crotch grabbing involved.

one girl wore the kind of attire i favor so i later went back to the place. price level 200 after telling once 300 is a bit steep on my previous visit. i admit she liked to rush it and the place is not very conductive to roleplay, but the bizzarely humorous undertone to it all made up for it for me. can not really recommend otherwise other than for quick relieve, which was fine for me that evening. cute little thing though with a nice little ass. no phone number given out though - ass said, funny place, but odd.


lazyness seems to be my recent motto anyhow. i swear i wanted to go to maggies to have a look last friday, last saturday, this friday and yesterday. but when 11 comes around i always think "naw, it is cozy at home, i feel tired" (which actually is a requirement for me to enjoy places like maggies or the pig) "cold outside ... i do it another day. next week, for sure, next week counts." apologies for not joining last time with sammy t, intransit and world guy sh. sounded like a lot of fun, but during the week is really bad for me.


p.s.: my bike is fine, but man - what's with that wind outside today? i got a friend come by today and had in mind to go to hou hai lake and drum tower but if it stays like this it may be dvd afternoon instead.

[Pro Hunter]

Left Beijing for about 2 years and heading back there next month for business trip.

Used to pick up some girls outside of Yansha Shopping Mall/outside some car showrooms ...remember mostly from siChuan.

Also some actions across the road, outside of KunLun hotel, which i still remember girls mostly from DongBei.

Anyone can advice if the action is still on? Quality and the price now? Any recent recommendation on the girl there would be much appreicated.