North China - Beijing

[ChinBro]

So try to email Kitty your specific requirements. From my own experiences, got what I required every time. Everything would be done smoothly.

My two cents.

ChinBro.

Yes I speak Chinese. I asked for someone with a pic on her site, though I should have known better maybe.

[Mojo888]

Yes, go all the way to the end towards the east. Last door.

I tried this place-all the way at the end after U-turn left. Cute Dalian girl, but her most interesting offer was RMB800 naked HJ. I passed.

[Member #1174]

So I go last night (Sunday) , expecting it to be slow and it was. Lots of old pros in there, someone should start checking IDs and put a high limit in place. There were a few younger girls (younger = less than 25). Had some drinks and some laughs. About 3am-ish, it's time to start negotiating. First one starts at 3000! I thought it was a fluke deal, so tried a different one and the same thing with the 3000. Tried negotiating, she says anything less than 3000 she will just go home alone. The third one says she doesn't get paid, she's their looking for love only. I almost laughed myself out of my chair. I grabbed my stuff and left alone.

The Mongolian girls are hot and all, but not that damn hot. I've never paid that much, not even in Vegas. Is that really the going rate? Say it isn't so.

3000? That's ridiculous. A couple of years ago, I had some Russian chick for 1000 with full GFE. What is going on in BJC these days? Crazy!

[Joel77]

Yes I speak Chinese. I asked for someone with a pic on her site, though I should have known better maybe.

Do you speak Chinese? If not, you should have email-ed Kitty your specific requirements. Your emails will receive immediate attention. Everything will be done smoothly. The lady who answers the phone (I was told she's Kitty's assistant) speaks awful English, so it would be not surprising at all that she can't get your requirements.

Just my two cents.

ChinBro

[Straydog Jr]

Yes, go all the way to the end towards the east. Last door.

Hi Straydog,

So do you mean that you go past 606 on the right and keep going until the corridor turns slightly left?

I will try this weekend.

Any recommendations on girl number?

Thanks

[Explorer88]

Absolutely not. Erka was about 5ft 7in with perfect proportioned body.

She was the best looking / had the best body of any Mongolian in Maggies in last 10 years. IMHO of course. Certainly not the sharpest pencil in the tin. If she could probably only learn / remember 10 Chinese words. But YES you are correct. She is sadly missed. I will be back in BJ in a few days I will find out from some of her friends exactly her status.

Not sure if BBB found anything out, but did my own inquiry and was told that Erka (5' 7" version) stopped going to the bars last year and is currently living with her boyfriend in China, but not Beijing. Somewhere by the ocean according to pictures she sends her friends.

Short stout Erka (who also went by Erika) is still in Beijing and working for an Australian engineering company. Couldn't ascertain if she was still available for take out.

[Mojo888]

I have used Angel's outcall for 2 years and been satisfied. A good value for money compared to Maggi's and the few high priced saunas in operation. As a regular customers, perhaps I have gotten better service. Service and girls have ranged from so-so to great, but mostly good. The trick is to familiar with a few of her girls and then repeat service with the good ones. So if you call Angel and request a girl who you know or who has been recommended by an ISG member, chances of a good time increase. Here are recent (last 4 months) girls from Angel's stable (in no particular order) that I highly recommend: Fang Fang, Ting Ting, Juan Juan and Ling Ling. All in early to mid 20s, nice bodies,"in to it" and fun to be with. Cheers Cheers. Enjoy Enjoy.

One additional point: Fang Fang (around 5'2") has a superhot body, including voluptuous fake breasts, but is a bit of a fembot: sex is good, but rushes on BJ, does not kiss, aims to finish business (be on her way) in 30 min.

[Teltel]

I have been using Kitty's service for almost 2 months now. At first it was so-so service because I was new to this and she didn't know my preferences well. For example, one girl who was very nice was a smoker, and I can't handle that. Since then, I haven't had any girls who are smokers. There was one girl I liked very much but is no longer here, so she sent another very similar girl. The new girl was very young, very pretty, but her clothes were off before I had my shirt off. So at this point I'm assuming all business, but she was quit playful actually. Didn't like kissing at all though. Not even a little. She was a little loud too when answering the phone. I told her I have roommates and I don't want them knocking on my door but it didn't seem to get through to her. They never did come knocking but I like to play it safe. I still had a good time though but felt it could be better.

So, Kitty asked how it was and I told her these things. The next time I asked for her, she had improved a lot! She was very playful and I had fun taking my time undressing her. She was quieter when on the phone and talking in general. She didn't seem to mind kissing this time either, and got really into it, even a little more than I expected But the point is, Kitty is good at sending a girl you'll like as long as you're specific about what you want.

And, how are you Kitty?

Good to see you are training your girls.

Teltel

[Random Beijing]

I have been using Kitty's service for almost 2 months now. At first it was so-so service because I was new to this and she didn't know my preferences well. For example, one girl who was very nice was a smoker, and I can't handle that. Since then, I haven't had any girls who are smokers. There was one girl I liked very much but is no longer here, so she sent another very similar girl. The new girl was very young, very pretty, but her clothes were off before I had my shirt off. So at this point I'm assuming all business, but she was quit playful actually. Didn't like kissing at all though. Not even a little. She was a little loud too when answering the phone. I told her I have roommates and I don't want them knocking on my door but it didn't seem to get through to her. They never did come knocking but I like to play it safe. I still had a good time though but felt it could be better.

So, Kitty asked how it was and I told her these things. The next time I asked for her, she had improved a lot! She was very playful and I had fun taking my time undressing her. She was quieter when on the phone and talking in general. She didn't seem to mind kissing this time either, and got really into it, even a little more than I expected But the point is, Kitty is good at sending a girl you'll like as long as you're specific about what you want.

[Old South]

. I was somewhat disappointed because I lived for a while in Singapore, and for $150 I would regularly have a Goddess. None of the girls that came to me would have got work in Singapore.

So what was I doing wrong and what advice do you have for the future?

That was your problem; you are comparing China to Singapore, where prostitution is legal. In China there are routinely crack downs on prostitutes, so the price in China will be higher because of the risk premium involved.

OS

[Mojo888]

I have used Angel's outcall for 2 years and been satisfied. A good value for money compared to Maggi's and the few high priced saunas in operation. As a regular customers, perhaps I have gotten better service. Service and girls have ranged from so-so to great, but mostly good. The trick is to familiar with a few of her girls and then repeat service with the good ones. So if you call Angel and request a girl who you know or who has been recommended by an ISG member, chances of a good time increase. Here are recent (last 4 months) girls from Angel's stable (in no particular order) that I highly recommend: Fang Fang, Ting Ting, Juan Juan and Ling Ling. All in early to mid 20s, nice bodies,"in to it" and fun to be with. Cheers Cheers. Enjoy Enjoy.

[Seekingals]

You're getting yourself into trouble by using these guerilla providers advertising on China Daily or Craigslist. For Beijing outcall, Kitty might be your best choice, a very reliable outcall service providers. Dozens of girls have been working under her, so it's definitely not difficult to get a girl to your taste from there. 700 rmb for a decent next door type girl. Kitty's contact can be found in 'Classified Ads' section under 'China'. Just wondering why Kitty hasn't ever bought a subscription for convenience, it's just 20 USD, a very small money.

I'm a novice in China, so I wan't some feedback on where I went wrong. I am posting in the Beijing forum because that was my last stop.

Basically, I travelled Shanghai, Hangzhou, Suzhou, and last to Beijing. At each place I got an outcall. But never was the girl the one in the photo from the China Daily add. Even when I had them email me and they sent some photos, the girl that actually turned up was different. Is this par for the course?

And none of the ones that came were stunners. The best looking (in Shanghai) I'd rate as a 7. 5, but she was over 30, had a C-section scar. The worst, in Hangzhou, was a 5 at best, large floppy boobs, terrible attitude, I ended up half way through sending her back after paying 500RMB. The best overall, because she had a nice pert firm body, was in her early twenties, had attitude, and spoke great English, was a 7. In Suzhou the girl couldn't wake up (admittedly it was after 3am) , again she was a mum. In Beijing, another older woman, who made it all up with her attitude, also a mum. Note that I do speak sufficient putonghua to get myself around China so communicating wasn't really an issue. It's just that I expected much better looking girls, and didn't find them, never one that even came close to any of the photos. I wondered whether I was just too hard on price. The operator would generally ask around 800-900RMB, I would counter 500RMB for everything (FS, BJ, taxi, all inclusive) , and generally end up no higher than 600RMB. Even then I had to debate with girls when they turned up on something that had already been agreed to be all inclusive. Was this my problem. That I held my ground on price, so they just downgraded me on the girl? I was somewhat disappointed because I lived for a while in Singapore, and for $150 I would regularly have a Goddess. None of the girls that came to me would have got work in Singapore.

So what was I doing wrong and what advice do you have for the future?

[Kajos]

The photos almost never match the actual girl. That's normal.

If you're calling based on ads in China Daily, you're setting yourself up for poor quality girls. If they know you're a foreigner travelling through, then they'll probably send the worst girls. Instead, I'd look on the forum and find outcall services that have been used and recommended. Then be extremely specific about what you want. Something like "must be very skinny, no fat girls. Young, under 21, no old girls. No girls with baby."

Your pricing strategy sounds about right. Something like 200 to 400 in smaller cities. 500 to 600 in Beijing for FS, BJ, taxi all inclusive. If you do want very fine girls, perhaps you'll have to pay more now. But for those prices, you should be getting decent girl-next-door types. You could also try asking sending the girl away if you don't like her for whatever reason. I mean both the RMB 600 girls and the RMB 900 girls.

I'm a novice in China, so I wan't some feedback on where I went wrong. I am posting in the Beijing forum because that was my last stop.

Basically, I travelled Shanghai, Hangzhou, Suzhou, and last to Beijing. At each place I got an outcall. But never was the girl the one in the photo from the China Daily add. Even when I had them email me and they sent some photos, the girl that actually turned up was different. Is this par for the course?

And none of the ones that came were stunners. The best looking (in Shanghai) I'd rate as a 7. 5, but she was over 30, had a C-section scar. The worst, in Hangzhou, was a 5 at best, large floppy boobs, terrible attitude, I ended up half way through sending her back after paying 500RMB. The best overall, because she had a nice pert firm body, was in her early twenties, had attitude, and spoke great English, was a 7. In Suzhou the girl couldn't wake up (admittedly it was after 3am) , again she was a mum. In Beijing, another older woman, who made it all up with her attitude, also a mum. Note that I do speak sufficient putonghua to get myself around China so communicating wasn't really an issue. It's just that I expected much better looking girls, and didn't find them, never one that even came close to any of the photos. I wondered whether I was just too hard on price. The operator would generally ask around 800-900RMB, I would counter 500RMB for everything (FS, BJ, taxi, all inclusive) , and generally end up no higher than 600RMB. Even then I had to debate with girls when they turned up on something that had already been agreed to be all inclusive. Was this my problem. That I held my ground on price, so they just downgraded me on the girl? I was somewhat disappointed because I lived for a while in Singapore, and for $150 I would regularly have a Goddess. None of the girls that came to me would have got work in Singapore.

So what was I doing wrong and what advice do you have for the future?

[Exoticspirit]

Looks left a little to be desired, I'd say face 6/10. Eyes too far apart with a little acne in between.

Body was what I like in Asians, small. 8/10. Tits and ass could have been bigger, but no complaints.

Great attitude 9. 5/10.

I don't remember her name. Like Shirley maybe (?). Has a big scar on her left kneecap.

I'm surprised that a 'reputable' outcall service in BJ would actually send out a girl that would have only a 6 rating facially. This would never happen with say outcall agencies in Montreal where there is some pretty decent quality control. Maybe this shows that China still has a long way to go from the providing consistent quality point of view.

[Feebles]

I'm a novice in China, so I wan't some feedback on where I went wrong. I am posting in the Beijing forum because that was my last stop.

Basically, I travelled Shanghai, Hangzhou, Suzhou, and last to Beijing. At each place I got an outcall. But never was the girl the one in the photo from the China Daily add. Even when I had them email me and they sent some photos, the girl that actually turned up was different. Is this par for the course?

And none of the ones that came were stunners. The best looking (in Shanghai) I'd rate as a 7.5, but she was over 30, had a C-section scar. The worst, in Hangzhou, was a 5 at best, large floppy boobs, terrible attitude, I ended up half way through sending her back after paying 500RMB. The best overall, because she had a nice pert firm body, was in her early twenties, had attitude, and spoke great English, was a 7. In Suzhou the girl couldn't wake up (admittedly it was after 3am) , again she was a mum. In Beijing, another older woman, who made it all up with her attitude, also a mum. Note that I do speak sufficient putonghua to get myself around China so communicating wasn't really an issue. It's just that I expected much better looking girls, and didn't find them, never one that even came close to any of the photos. I wondered whether I was just too hard on price. The operator would generally ask around 800-900RMB, I would counter 500RMB for everything (FS, BJ, taxi, all inclusive) , and generally end up no higher than 600RMB. Even then I had to debate with girls when they turned up on something that had already been agreed to be all inclusive. Was this my problem. That I held my ground on price, so they just downgraded me on the girl? I was somewhat disappointed because I lived for a while in Singapore, and for $150 I would regularly have a Goddess. None of the girls that came to me would have got work in Singapore.

So what was I doing wrong and what advice do you have for the future?