North China - Beijing

[DavidinBJ]

David, how do we find this place?

I don't know if we can post names here, but if you really want to visit them use the method I did and confine your search in Guomao area under the "popular commercial areas," this specific shop has 22 reviews currently, 4 stars, and their number starts with 156. I have not gotten a membership from them so I can't speak as to the services you would receive from a member's POV. Best of luck!

[Worm]

Per my previous post, I've found a place near Guomao / Jintai Xizhao are, and got some really interesting information. This place apparently has been around for 5 years now (at least according to the masseuse), and it used to have a storefront but now its only apartment style due to the heightened scrutiny and for the safety of both the customers and the owner. It owns several apartments in the same building, and if you are a returning customer / member, you can use the smaller studio style rooms upon reservation. There is also a 2/3 beds for new customers. This is their way of not putting all eggs in one basket I guess? So if one apartment get raided, only a few people will go down.

Anyway, the MMS has all kinds of girls you can choose from, some part-times and some professionals. The part-times are better looking and hotter (students and people with day jobs I think), whereas the professionals are better at what they are there for. According to my source, they also have Japanese, Thai, and even Dongguan girls over to both serve customers and teach the part-times tricks and stuff. All in all I am very surprised at how many girls they have, the variety you can get, and how discrete they are.

Now comes the not so pleasant part. In order for them to stay under the radar, they much prefer customers who keeps returning than constantly accepting new customers. So they have a membership program, where you need to deposit at least 10 K RMB with them to become a member. After you become a member, each hour, no matter whom you request, is only 1 K (and it comes out of your deposit). Not a bad deal in the city and especially with the level of girls you get there. For new customers, the taste session is pretty shitty because its a HJ happy ending with a terrible massage that costs you 1200+. Now this means you won't get any of the good stuff until you put down 10 K. I don't think I will be doing that but I have to admit the quality of the girls are pretty good.

David, how do we find this place?

[Kerfuffle]

Thanks, but unless I'm missing something: A cursory search of the site using the search term "Chinese characters" http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...eply&p=2328848 does not readily bring up a fix, but rather even Chinese people advising in at least one post within the search results that "Chinese characters cannot be typed here."

I appreciate posters using Chinese characters in an attempt to convey more accurate information here (and I can input Chinese characters using the keyboard capabilities of most computers and mobile phones, as well as read and work with Chinese characters on most if not all browsers on most computers and mobile phones), but if Chinese characters are in fact incompatible with this site, then what can we do?

Does anyone (Jackson?) have the definitive answer? Thanks.

I guess Jackson is gone, per Midwestern, but the Chinese characters issue looks to be addressed in this post (thanks Teltel and the vanished Ikksman); it's a Unicode to Chinese character deal: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...862&viewfull=1#post2104862.

The unicode to Chinese converter link provided in Ikks' post appears to be obsolete, but a quick Internet search of the term "unicode to chinese character pinyin" brings up many results, including this: https://www.chineseconverter.com/en/convert/unicode

Otherwise, for the sake of clarity, here's Ikksman's explanation: Copied and pasted from Ikks' post to which I refer and that originally appeared in the Chinese Words and Phrases thread on 11-12-17:

Let's say that someone posted: 你20570;21475;27963;20799;21527;65311;.

1. Add &# to the beginning of each number, checking that there is a; at the end of each number (you can leave any Hanzi intact): 你20570;21475;27963;20799;21527;65311;.

2. Load a Unicode to Chinese Converter (I use http://www.chinese-tools.com/tools/c...r-unichar.html).

3. Copy and paste the string from step 1 into the 'Source' box and press the 'Get the Chinese' button.

4. The result should be 你20570;21475;27963;20799;21527;65311; as shown below.

Ikks.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=270462&d=1510465313

[DopeyMopey]

Ah, you finally found it! At least, what's left of it. Definitely not a hot spot anymore.

How do I become a Nightlife member? Not seeing a registration button anywhere on the site linked in classified.

I did, was so disappointed! To become a nightlife member there is a register button somewhere, can't remember how I did it but you can email IT guy for more info.

The girl from Crystal is called Lily, she's been very good to me. Please treat her well!

[RolandOrzabal]

Took a poke around Dianping as DavidinBJ wrote about earlier, not able to get a whole ton of info from it yet though. Not many sexy girls in the photos, and the one apartment-style MP that I frequent regularly (which does offer extras) doesn't even show up. Will go see about the few MP's that do have possibly alluring photos when I get a chance.

But in my experience, most massage parlors offer something extra. I tried to remember all of the MPs I've been to over the years, and I believe it's 18 different shops, of which only 5 led to a veggie massage. I've never pushed for extras unless the girl brings it up, and I don't repeat if the first time was veggie, so maybe all of them would've offered eventually--other than the one where I got massaged by a dude. I do always ask what each price range includes every time though.

Of those 18 shops, 13 had at least a he available, and 7 of those shops had further services. Usually anything better than he is stupid expensive though, like 1500 for a BJ. The shops range from hole-in-the-wall shops to large fancy places. At some shops, the he is included in the price. Others, the girl will ask you after it's over if you want to upgrade. Rare for anyone to speak English though, so language skills are important. I will ask the dude in reception what the different prices all mean, and then ask the girl too when it's just us two.

Should also note that there appear to be at least 3 types of masseuses at medium / large shops. There's the ones who do foot massage, who will definitely never offer anything. There's the older ones who just do veggie massages; if you get her, you probably ordered the wrong thing, you can ask to change. And then there's the younger women in hot outfits. If your masseuse is a girl in her 20's or 30's and wearing a hot outfit, I'd say there's a high likelihood there's extras available.

I know, maybe I think I'm protecting their identities. I'm only a few posts short of being able to post and receive PMs (I think), I might consider sharing their names privately but they all trusted me enough to ask for wechat, I'm not sure how they'd feel being shared on here. I will be returning to Beijing soon and report more on outcall providers. Midwestern, I left a review of the girl on Nightlife.

I went back to Maizidian, found the you shaped building opposite McDonalds, the entrance is slightly to the left of the front face. Reception was manned but didn't give a shit about me. The lifts are on the left side when you go in but were broken, a sign directed me out of the building to my left (basically out into the car park at the back) and up the outdoor stairs. Two floors were taken by this professional looking foot massage place (2 and 3 F), the wall sign in reception does not suggest many massage places. Floor 6 on left side of the building had a massage but the talents were very poor (there is a Santa Claus sticker on door), I couldn't see anything else. Floor 5 and 4 had nothing, and basically there was nothing there. I ended up trying one on floor 2,198 rmb. To my shock it was an old guy, but he was excellent and really fixed my sore back! He knew exactly what was wrong with my posture! I don't think it's worth going there anymore as floor 4 and 5 are not in business, the entire building felt abandoned.

Itching for more I went to Soho retail building 3, there is a spa on 3 F as reported by a member here. 398 for an oil body massage, money upfront, I figured extras are negotiated inside the room. OK looking girl arrived and gave a decent massage, halfway I asked if there is a special menu. The answer was a flat no, I asked if other girls did it and she also replied no. I'm unsure if it's because of me, or the time of day (3 afternoon) or they've stopped it. Not sure I'd go back if HD is nearby, at least I know what I'm getting there.

So, today was shit. I crossed Maizidian off the list and Soho building 3, floor 3 off the list. Will explore other parts of the city next time.

Ah, you finally found it! At least, what's left of it. Definitely not a hot spot anymore.

How do I become a Nightlife member? Not seeing a registration button anywhere on the site linked in classified.

[DopeyMopey]

These are good reports, but they would be much more helpful and useful if you told us the gals' names.

I know, maybe I think I'm protecting their identities. I'm only a few posts short of being able to post and receive PMs (I think), I might consider sharing their names privately but they all trusted me enough to ask for wechat, I'm not sure how they'd feel being shared on here. I will be returning to Beijing soon and report more on outcall providers. Midwestern, I left a review of the girl on Nightlife.

I went back to Maizidian, found the you shaped building opposite McDonalds, the entrance is slightly to the left of the front face. Reception was manned but didn't give a shit about me. The lifts are on the left side when you go in but were broken, a sign directed me out of the building to my left (basically out into the car park at the back) and up the outdoor stairs. Two floors were taken by this professional looking foot massage place (2 and 3 F), the wall sign in reception does not suggest many massage places. Floor 6 on left side of the building had a massage but the talents were very poor (there is a Santa Claus sticker on door), I couldn't see anything else. Floor 5 and 4 had nothing, and basically there was nothing there. I ended up trying one on floor 2,198 rmb. To my shock it was an old guy, but he was excellent and really fixed my sore back! He knew exactly what was wrong with my posture! I don't think it's worth going there anymore as floor 4 and 5 are not in business, the entire building felt abandoned.

Itching for more I went to Soho retail building 3, there is a spa on 3 F as reported by a member here. 398 for an oil body massage, money upfront, I figured extras are negotiated inside the room. OK looking girl arrived and gave a decent massage, halfway I asked if there is a special menu. The answer was a flat no, I asked if other girls did it and she also replied no. I'm unsure if it's because of me, or the time of day (3 afternoon) or they've stopped it. Not sure I'd go back if HD is nearby, at least I know what I'm getting there.

So, today was shit. I crossed Maizidian off the list and Soho building 3, floor 3 off the list. Will explore other parts of the city next time.

[Midwestern]

She sent her recommendation. As suggested by Midwestern on another thread, Nightlife is a website to check out (she is on there). I was OK with her recommendation. The girl arrived and she was full of energy, it was a pleasurable lunchtime meal! Fun shower, cuddles, GFE, DFK, BBBJ, DATY (little bushy but OK). She was so horny she slipped me in full length when I went to kiss her. I quickly motioned for condom. She is so petite, cute, light, and so tiny. We went for it and I was exhausted again after last night's Mongolian!

We tried many positions and she looked great on top. I couldn't come in many positions, maybe too tired and strange to be fucking in the afternoon when I should be exploring Beijing. Her HJ technique wasn't great, I thought she was going to pull my crotch off with both hands! At end I did it myself and COB. We showered and she gave me a few more kisses before departing, I guess we had that chemistry.

I'm unsure if Crystal is old or new in Beijing, I can't remember how I found the contact, it might have been from a thread here or maybe somewhere on Google. I wanted to try another agency besides the usual and the communication was largely in Chinese, not a problem with wechat translate. On our initial contact weeks back they avoided sending me photos, I asked for some yesterday and they suggested three girls, 1 HR shot 800 rmb total, in line with other providers. The photos looked good, and I went for the first one.

On arrival at 10 I couldn't work out if it was her, photo filters are so deceptive, she was still nice and attractive body with some abs, very GFE, very cuddly. Shower wasn't as intimate but was fine, nice smooth legs. Cuddled, very good BJ technique, wanted me to work on her super sensitive nips, think she really enjoyed it. She was super wet by the time I finished DATY, slipped on the condom and cowgirl, mish, legs over shoulder, doggy, more mosh, unable to come. She suggested going bb, I was hesitant and asked if she was clean, she said yes and she cowgirl on me until I pulled out to cum. She stayed way longer than the hour when we started talking through the app and sharing stories, she wasn't in a hurry to leave. We exchanged wechat and I sent her off.

These are good reports, but they would be much more helpful and useful if you told us the gals' names.

[DopeyMopey]

I'm unsure if Crystal is old or new in Beijing, I can't remember how I found the contact, it might have been from a thread here or maybe somewhere on Google. I wanted to try another agency besides the usual and the communication was largely in Chinese, not a problem with wechat translate. On our initial contact weeks back they avoided sending me photos, I asked for some yesterday and they suggested three girls, 1 HR shot 800 rmb total, in line with other providers. The photos looked good, and I went for the first one.

On arrival at 10 I couldn't work out if it was her, photo filters are so deceptive, she was still nice and attractive body with some abs, very GFE, very cuddly. Shower wasn't as intimate but was fine, nice smooth legs. Cuddled, very good BJ technique, wanted me to work on her super sensitive nips, think she really enjoyed it. She was super wet by the time I finished DATY, slipped on the condom and cowgirl, mish, legs over shoulder, doggy, more mosh, unable to come. She suggested going bb, I was hesitant and asked if she was clean, she said yes and she cowgirl on me until I pulled out to cum. She stayed way longer than the hour when we started talking through the app and sharing stories, she wasn't in a hurry to leave. We exchanged wechat and I sent her off.

Probably one of the better GFE and good sex for only 800 rmb all inclusive, I'm lucky to have gone bb but did so at my own risk, I would not do it again anytime soon after two in one day!

Would recommend Crystal as an outcall provider, wechat can handle translation. Angel and kitty are still on top of my list and I'd place mermaid and crystal at third. Will try Mermaid a second time next. I'd probably go back to Maggie's to pick another Mongolian, they are hot!

[DavidinBJ]

Per my previous post, I've found a place near Guomao / Jintai Xizhao are, and got some really interesting information. This place apparently has been around for 5 years now (at least according to the masseuse), and it used to have a storefront but now its only apartment style due to the heightened scrutiny and for the safety of both the customers and the owner. It owns several apartments in the same building, and if you are a returning customer / member, you can use the smaller studio style rooms upon reservation. There is also a 2/3 beds for new customers. This is their way of not putting all eggs in one basket I guess? So if one apartment get raided, only a few people will go down.

Anyway, the MMS has all kinds of girls you can choose from, some part-times and some professionals. The part-times are better looking and hotter (students and people with day jobs I think), whereas the professionals are better at what they are there for. According to my source, they also have Japanese, Thai, and even Dongguan girls over to both serve customers and teach the part-times tricks and stuff. All in all I am very surprised at how many girls they have, the variety you can get, and how discrete they are.

Now comes the not so pleasant part. In order for them to stay under the radar, they much prefer customers who keeps returning than constantly accepting new customers. So they have a membership program, where you need to deposit at least 10 K RMB with them to become a member. After you become a member, each hour, no matter whom you request, is only 1 K (and it comes out of your deposit). Not a bad deal in the city and especially with the level of girls you get there. For new customers, the taste session is pretty shitty because its a HJ happy ending with a terrible massage that costs you 1200+. Now this means you won't get any of the good stuff until you put down 10 K. I don't think I will be doing that but I have to admit the quality of the girls are pretty good.

[CinaHandsome69]

I found something using this method which I'm almost sure is not veggie massage, but I'm always a bit afraid of the package prices. For instance, you choose a 380 or 480 package and it's not garanteed to include the extras. What is your experience with this?

Well I tried this last night. I was at my hotel at Andingmen, Beijing. I used the Dianping app on my mobile. As I could not read Chinese I asked the hotel concierge to help me navigate to the "massage" page and to set the search function to "Nearby my location", otherwise it defaults to some far away city.

It showed me the massage places and their prices and distance from where I was in meters, then kilometers. All the places near where I am were decent sounding and I was not too keen to take a taxi anywhere else. I was only looking for those within walking distance. I picked one that does not look like a medical hall although it did not have any dodgy name nor photos of ladies. It was my best guess it might have something.

Walked there and showed the receptionist the Dianping page, and pointed to the promotion of 90 mins for RMB328 whole body massage (usual price was like 5 xx).

Was shown to room and asked to change into the usual loose fitting garb.

In came a nice looking MILF, a bit on the meaty side but as she was tall, it looked nice, the / E boobs. I thought, "Jackpot!

She was good in massaging but she somehow avoided brushing my dick. I thought, at # this is a veggie. However after a while she started to massage my abdomen and tickling, caressing my nipples. I started to get hard and my hands moved to her boobs but she pushed them away. So I asked what's the deal. She said HJ and roaming on top if I extend another RMB328. I said forget it, for that much extra money I expect a FJ.

She said that place does not allow anything else, so I offered to take her back to my hotel. She said yes but for RMB2000. I told her for that money I might as well go to Maggies and get a hot Mongolian.

So the night ended with no action, just a nice massage.

Maybe its Beijing, maybe its the location I am in. Anyway no luck last night.

[DopeyMopey]

Had a funny experience with kitty, last night I asked if two girls were available, she replied that they were menstruating. I asked who else was available and apparently they all were menstruating too! After more discussion I realized she is hesitant sending girls out at night because of restrictions in Beijing. She suggested an afternoon session today so I agreed.

She sent her recommendation. As suggested by Midwestern on another thread, Nightlife is a website to check out (she is on there). I was OK with her recommendation. The girl arrived and she was full of energy, it was a pleasurable lunchtime meal! Fun shower, cuddles, GFE, DFK, BBBJ, DATY (little bushy but OK). She was so horny she slipped me in full length when I went to kiss her. I quickly motioned for condom. She is so petite, cute, light, and so tiny. We went for it and I was exhausted again after last night's Mongolian!

We tried many positions and she looked great on top. I couldn't come in many positions, maybe too tired and strange to be fucking in the afternoon when I should be exploring Beijing. Her HJ technique wasn't great, I thought she was going to pull my crotch off with both hands! At end I did it myself and COB. We showered and she gave me a few more kisses before departing, I guess we had that chemistry.

My first experience with kitty was OK, but this second time pulled her back in favour. There are girls on her rota I'd love to meet, that's for next time. I think kitty is a good provider but just don't ask for girls at night, 9 to 10 in evening is no good. They are all menstruating at those hours!

[DopeyMopey]

Finally I went to Maggie's tonight, not a fan of bars but it was better than I thought, my intention was strictly business. I arrived before 10 and it was dead, got myself a cocktail and sat against the wall overlooking the bar. I don't like the spotlight and would rather observe the environment first. A lady was early, I think she's a MILF but hard to tell due to lighting, she said Hi at the bar and I replied.

Later when I moved to the back, she went to sit at the far side where we can see each other, we glanced at each other occasionally, that was until a stunner arrived, slender, pale smooth skin, and sexy as hell. Her back was facing me, soon she caught my eyes. Despite being surrounded by her friends I was able to get in while ordering at the bar, we spoke but she was detached. Her friend was much more bubblier, I ended up buying drinks for three Mongolians, it was fine. I suggested my hotel, and soon she told me she'd charge and to my surprise only 2000 rmb. We were in the cab soon and I couldn't stop looking at her, she's 25 apparently and looked every part. Legs, butt, Angel tattoo across her back, crown on her wrist.

She wouldn't shower but I persuaded her to wash at least, I think she missed her butthole because during 69 it wasn't pleasant! CBJ, DATY and very enthusiastic on my balls, no great technique but made up for energy. Anyway, the next hour was a workout, she exhausted me, she straddled me till I was done. Only thing she didn't allow was kissing on lips. I think she wasn't sure at first but enjoyed her time.

Apparently she was gone for a week and it was her first night back, we finished at midnight and she got a cab back to Maggie's, we had a nice chat when I showed her photos of my home. I'm so tired but itching for the MILF now! Anyway, I got her wechat and if I'm in the area, I'd look her up, one of the hottest sex I had.

Tomorrow will report more on my activities.

P.S. pricing at the bar, cocktails around 80 rmb, most alcoholic drinks vary from 80 rmb to 100 rmb and higher for champagne. Juice and beer less so, it is more or less similar pricing to many global cities. The talents tonight, personally 7 out of 10 overall, some had belly pouch, another stunner caught my eye but I'm happy with my choice. I probably picked the 9/10 one. There were about 4 out of 20 I'd have taken back with me.

[Mgp23]

I'm happy to report that I did found out about a new way to gain access to hidden apartment style massage parlors (which means more likely than not that they provide extra services). I won't name any specific Spa here to avoid been seen as a typical switch-and-bait advertiser faking as a user. To use this method you need to

If you command enough language skills, download a Chinese app (perhaps it has an English version, didn't check) called 大20247;28857;35780;Dianping" a lot of you might be familiar with this. It's essentially the Chinese Yelp. Once you open the app, there is a section called entertainment / relaxation (20241;38386;23089;20048, and in that there is another icon you can click which is spa / foot massage. Once you get in there, by default it will show you a list of spas near you ranked by the app's algorithm. Now comes the tricky party that requires some Chinese reading ability or maybe just some luck. Looking at the names of those spas, pick out the ones with seductive words or what one would consider inappropriate words for a proper, legitimate spa. For instances, there is a "sweet peach spa," a "bing bing private talk spa," or a "royal court lingering connection spa. " It's not the easiest to translate some of the names of these spas. After you need to pick out these suspicious spas, check out their images, if the image is showing a half naked girl giving a massage or something similarly alluding, then it's almost 100% a spa that only / mostly offers extra services. Even if the image is nothing revealing, if the name is inappropriate enough, its safe to assume its not a legit massage. Then you just need to click on the phone icon and call them for their exact address.

I know this is a very difficult process and not many people can do this. All I can say is that once you establish a connection with one of these places, you can arrange different girls through the MMS and don't have worry about looking for new places.

I found something using this method which I'm almost sure is not veggie massage, but I'm always a bit afraid of the package prices. For instance, you choose a 380 or 480 package and it's not garanteed to include the extras. What is your experience with this?

[Midwestern]

I've been using ISG for a while now and since I'm currently in China, I have read up on most of the messages going back at least 6 months. More of a massage person than a bar goer, places like Maggies is not on my go-to list. I am quite fluent in Chinese so I decided to do some research on my own and potentially share new information with users of this thread.

I'm happy to report that I did found out about a new way to gain access to hidden apartment style massage parlors (which means more likely than not that they provide extra services). I won't name any specific Spa here to avoid been seen as a typical switch-and-bait advertiser faking as a user. To use this method you need to be able to at least speak conversational mandarin and be able to read some basic Chinese characters. I know not everyone can do this so I apologize for those you who cannot share in on this new method (I'm sure some of you already know this, it's just that I haven't seen anyone posting it).

Just want you to know that your report is appreciated. Thanks, man. I wish I can read Chinese, but oh well. Please keep reporting. If you find a gem, then maybe you can share the location via PM.

[Kerfuffle]

The numbers are what sometimes happens when you include Chinese characters in the post, there is a fix (which I cannot remember, search the site for that).

Teltel.

Thanks, but unless I'm missing something: A cursory search of the site using the search term "Chinese characters" http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...eply&p=2328848 does not readily bring up a fix, but rather even Chinese people advising in at least one post within the search results that "Chinese characters cannot be typed here."

I appreciate posters using Chinese characters in an attempt to convey more accurate information here (and I can input Chinese characters using the keyboard capabilities of most computers and mobile phones, as well as read and work with Chinese characters on most if not all browsers on most computers and mobile phones), but if Chinese characters are in fact incompatible with this site, then what can we do?

Does anyone (Jackson?) have the definitive answer? Thanks.