North China - Beijing

[Shining]

I will travel to Beijing next month and have been reading a lot to avoid rookie mistakes.

Why pay 2000 rmb for a st at Maggie's?

I found escorts offering 800 - 1000 rmb for one hour and from the discussion here these seem real.

Even if those girls are then 'next door' quality it seems a better deal than going to Maggie's.

What is the cheapest way to get FS in Beijing without taking large risks?

[Shining]

I will visit Beijing next month, staying at a five star hotel in the Jinangtaixiang area.

2000 rmb for an independent WG st.

[Member #4707]

Have been Beijing for several days since long time before.

Tried Maggie for my first time. Can't got a normal taxi or Didi taxi in the central area of Beijing for 40 minutes from 22:40. Never happened in my life anywhere in the world. So arrived late about 23:40. Full of Mongolian ladies and customers. Most of the girls seemed in their late 20's. There are 2 or 3 very hot girl but always busy by some fat and ugly guys who invited bottle of whisky but seems with stupid talking.

Finally found a really sweet, cute, east Asian face Mongolian girl and drink, chat with her long time. She is 29 years old, speak very good English. She just came Beijing for 3 days, will only stay for 1 week. She seems really like me and so do I. She got drunk finally and we came to hotel for the whole night with a good price. She was very sweet and horny in bed like a SEA lady.

May visited Maggie again, very western style club without hassle.

But so expensive, with 2000 RMB only for short time. With this price you can find any type of stunner in FKK for "short time" and got better "professional style" service.

Asia is expensive for sure now.

[ComteMosca]

Thanks for all your feedback.

So I called Park Hyatt.

You are definitively smarter than myself! This was the most obvious to do but I didn't think about it at all.

One of my friends -working at Park Hyatt- confirmed me that Xiu is fully in operation, but not so lively anymore as ComteMosca might know it.
He told me that pickup at Xiu still works, but it could be tricky to bring girls into the hotel without registering.

I will take my chance. 3 years ago, I didn't had any issues at all when bringing girls in my room.

Anyhow I will let you know. I will be here in approximately 2 weeks.

[Whomer]

Hi,

Does anyone know if the Xiu bar is still existing, and is still an active place? I found some contradictory information on this on the web.
I have very good memories of the Xiu bar when I was in Beijing in 2016, where I met 2 wonderful mongolian girls. As I am coming back to Beijing this summer, I am wondering if I could repeat such an experience, and this will definitively drive my hotel selection.
Thanks in advance.

Xiu update. One of my Mongol contacts said closed another said open. So I called Park Hyatt. Yes it is operating 8 pm to 2 am 7 nts a week. Go forth and have fun.

Xiu is open.

As ComteMosca I'm also coming back to Beijing for a few days in August and wanted to know if it is open.

One of my friends -working at Park Hyatt- confirmed me that Xiu is fully in operation, but not so lively anymore as ComteMosca might know it.

He told me that pickup at Xiu still works, but it could be tricky to bring girls into the hotel without registering.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Xiu update. One of my Mongol contacts said closed another said open. So I called Park Hyatt. Yes it is operating 8 pm to 2 am 7 nts a week. Go forth and have fun.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Hi,Does anyone know if the Xiu bar is still existing, and is still an active place? I found some contradictory information on this on the web.

I cannot answer directly. I too found it closed last 2 visits but I think it is open. I will check with some Mongolian girls and inform status. Intransit? Any intel?

[ComteMosca]

Hi,

Does anyone know if the Xiu bar is still existing, and is still an active place? I found some contradictory information on this on the web.

I have very good memories of the Xiu bar when I was in Beijing in 2016, where I met 2 wonderful mongolian girls. As I am coming back to Beijing this summer, I am wondering if I could repeat such an experience, and this will definitively drive my hotel selection.

Thanks in advance.

[Intransit]

https://www.vice.com/en_in/article/v...-brothel-clubs

Inside Beijing's Illegal Karaoke Sex Clubs.

Photographer Valya Lee spent two months working undercover and taking photos on her phone.

By Lucy Andrews.

Like many things in China, sex work is illegal but continues to flourish behind closed doors. In many cases, escort agencies masquerade as karaoke bars, which are known as karaoke television bars, or "KTV bars" for short.

Many of these KTV bars are exactly what they claim to be—places to get drunk and sing karaoke—but a large number also allow their clients to proposition employees. For this reason police treat all venues with scepticism, and KTV bars regularly get raided. Proving that a place is actually facilitating sex work is difficult, though, so police often settle for fining managers who illegally employ foreign women—as many places do.

For two months, one such woman was Russian freelance photographer Valya Lee, who worked as a "party girl" at several Beijing clubs. She captured her experience on a camera phone to illuminate an industry the government claims doesn't exist.

We spoke to Valya about what she saw during her two-month tenure in Beijing, and what she learned about sex work in modern China.

VICE: Hey Valya, can you tell me a bit about yourself and how this project came about?

Valya Lee: Sure. Well, as you know my name is Valya Lee. I'm 25-years-old and I'm a freelance photographer based in Russia. I was born close to the Chinese border so I've studied Chinese language and culture for several years, and I guess that's why I'm interested in projects that examine relations between Russia and China.

And to capture this series you got a job in a KTV bar?

That's right. The girls are called "hostesses" or "party girls," although the direct translation from Chinese is "a girl who provides entertainment in the company of alcohol". Most employees are Chinese, but a lot of girls also come from Russia or Ukraine and their main task is to get a client drunk and ensure they have a good time. No one except my friends knew I was shooting photos inside the clubs. Often managers would confiscate my phone before a shift so later I began carrying two phones: one for my manager to take, and one for me to take photos on.

This sounds pretty dicey. Did anyone ever see your camera?

No one ever saw me taking pictures. Phones are so commonplace that they've become completely invisible, but obviously working in a KTV bar came with its own dangers.

What was the scariest thing that happened while you worked undercover?

Probably the scariest thing happened on one of my last days. This client who was known by everyone at the club suggested I spend the night with him, but I refused. I didn't think refusing would be a big deal, but my manager really tried to persuade me. "This is a very powerful man, a big boss," he told me. Then he started threatening me, saying "you're not legal here and I can hand you over to the police if you don't cooperate. " I was scared but I knew it was a bluff. When he told me he would call the police I said: "well, let's make that call together. " At that point he backed off but I decided it was time to finish the project.

I'm guessing guys tried to sleep with you a lot, given you were pretending to be a "party girl. " How did you deal with this?

Yeah, the first time I was propositioned really stressed me out because the room I was in wasn't "okay," which is what we called the safe room. But then the proposals became more frequent and I either just ignored them or told people that I refused.

How did the club work? Can you walk us through an average night?

It all starts in the casting room where the girls wait to be chosen by a man. The more expensive the KTV is, the higher the requirements for the standards of beauty: the girls have to be tall and they need to look like models. I even worked in one club where the girls were chosen for their vocal abilities. In these rooms, men point fingers at women or they tell the madam—known as "Mami"—which girl they like. This is also when some customers inform Mami they need sexual services. In this case, before leading girls to such men, Mami usually asks the girls "are you okay?" If they nod the deal is done.

Then what happens?

Then you just hang out with your client. After some time working in the clubs, I developed a standard set of conversation topics and always kept my clients' glasses topped up. Clients usually wanted girls to drink a lot but we quietly spilled our drinks onto the floor. The clients would then sing, either alone or with me. When they found out that I was Russian they always wanted to sing songs like Katyusha, Moscow Nights, or something from Vita's repertoire.

Were all the girls in your club okay with having paid sex with clients?

I saw a lot of Chinese women afraid of losing their jobs, so they tried to fulfil all of their clients' requests. Foreign women such as myself didn't have so much pressure though, especially as we knew that half of everything we'the earn would be taken by Mami due to the risk of clients handing over foreign girls to the police as a way to avoid paying. All the girls knew this was a risk so I personally never met any foreign woman who'the slept with a client.

So given that sex work is illegal, how do these bars operate?

All of them have a good security system, so if the police arrive, they know in advance. But still, I had to hide in the locker room or in the parking lot several times. If you're suspected to be a foreign sex worker, you are likely to face deportation and pay a large fine.

What did you learn about corruption while you were there?

I think corruption is the same everywhere: if you have money and power you can do anything, regardless of the law. But having said that, I was always surprised by the way managers kept reiterating that their venues didn't provide sexual services, only to get asked to spend a night with a client by exactly the same people the following night. This happened everywhere.

What were the clients like?

There were all completely different because different KTVs attract different crowds. You can meet highly paid specialists, teachers, and civil servants. Foreigners are very rare—at least while I was working, I never met any.

Tell us about the Chinese girls you worked with. Who were they and where were they from?

There were girls from lots of different provinces. I once met a girl who was about 19 years old, and it was obvious she was uncomfortable working but she'the always get quickly chosen. Then one day she was kicked out of a room after a client saw she had braces on her teeth. She got fired after that incident. Apparently she'the left home for Beijing where she wanted to study acting.

Many girls work in KTV bars because they don't have enough money to pay for their studies or to repay loans. Usually no one tells their relatives where they work. Even if women hate the job, they often can't leave because they become accustomed to the high earnings. Other work just doesn't provide the same income.

In general, what was the main thing you learned from working in KTV bars?

I remember when I used to see Russian girls working as go-go dancers, I'the judge them for not behaving properly. But now, after walking in their shoes, I decided that you really can't judge a book by its cover.

Interview by Lucy Andrews. Photos by Valya Lee.

This article originally appeared on VICE ASIA.

[EnUnna]

Would you mind sharing the dianping listing with us?

Basically it's just the Chinese translation of the first place that David mentioned, the sweet peach one. It often comes up first when selecting the massage category in Dianping. They have at least three locations.

[SnarkHunter]

My apologies for not writing this report when the details were fresher in my mind. You know how it is when you travel. The rates, though, were just what was reported by other users of KittyBeijing's services.

But about a year ago, I visited Beijing and connected with KittyBeijing on WeChat (which took a while, but was much easier when I was in the city). She sent me photos of four girls; I chose one.

My hotel was the Fairmont. My instructions were to meet the girl (shit, I can't remember her name, something "-An," but it's probably fine as I'll explain shortly) on the second floor, about two hours later. So, I took the elevator down to the second floor, opened it. There was a girl in regular street clothes (very fashionable, with a nice black leather coat) standing near a window, looking at her phone. I called her name, and she looked up, then came to join me in the elevator. No eye contact. I pushed the button and we rode in silence. We got out and went to my room, where she relaxed a lot.

I offered her some bottled water, which she accepted. And she started to chatter. She didn't look much like her photo, but not exactly worse. Just different. I showed her the photo Kitty sent, and she said it was her, but they Photoshopped her face. Cute girl. Maybe 22-25, with long black hair and be-see cup. Tight body and if she had work done, it was done well. I give her about an 7, for looks.

She chattered and chattered. She said she didn't do this gig regularly, but sometimes, when she was in the mood. I asked her what she liked, and she said "Fucking. I just like having a dick fucking me. " Her English was pretty good!

More chattering. She said she was actually "model level," but because she wasn't a regular, she didn't get that rate from Kitty, but she did at her other agency.

I suggested we take a shower. She said no, she just had one. I told her I wanted one and I'd like her to join me, so she kind of rolled her eyes and complied. So, we stripped and went into the shower. I gave her a good scrub down. She kept talking, the whole time. Pretty self absorbed.

Finally, we went into the bedroom, laid down, and she started giving me a HJ. She didn't want to give me a BBBJ, and she wasn't super enthusiastic about me touching her. There were kind of a lot of rules. Basically, she just wanted to fuck. I was getting a little annoyed, frankly, as I like to draw these things out. But finally, I decided to give up on foreplay, covered up, and did something of an angry fuck, missionary. She wasn't really into different positions; if I tried to suggest something, she would make kind of give an annoyed huff.

When it was done, I said, "It's a good thing we're not married because we are totally incompatible. " She laughed. And then we had a nice, friendly conversation, that was a lot more relaxed and amicable, as we cleaned up and dressed.

She asked me for another $20 for a cab, and I gave it to her because I'm a pushover. Then, she left.

Zero chemistry! But better than watching TV. She didn't steal anything or slit my throat. I would try again, through Kitty, and hope the next one wasn't such a brat and had a wider repertoire. My guess is that repeat customers get better options.

[RolandOrzabal]

On a separate website I saw Wonderful Massage Club advertise with a new rota, there is Amy, Lucy and a stunning looking girl called Ivy. Go to their official website to check out the new photos. They're on my radar now!

Just checked out their site, Ivy does indeed look stunning; maybe I'll finally go try Wonderful Massage. Keep us posted if you get her service!

[DopeyMopey]

On a separate website I saw Wonderful Massage Club advertise with a new rota, there is Amy, Lucy and a stunning looking girl called Ivy. Go to their official website to check out the new photos. They're on my radar now!

[Mgp23]

So I can confirm that David's technique works. I visited a place and was met with a solid 7+ who did most everything I wanted. She was cute and had a nice round ass and perfect natural tits with big nips. Young enough with smooth skin though some surgery marks. Service was almost GFE.

It was an adventure to find the place though as the address was not the same as in Dianping and required some calls and searching through buildings to find. Dianping showed a spa palace but it ended up being one woman in an apartment.

Would you mind sharing the dianping listing with us?

[Jude Bright]

Anyone have recommendations for hourly or at least easy room booking in Beijing? I'm staying with friends during my trip so I don't have any other option for obvious reasons. Is it possible to take girls to spas that have private rooms?

There are many hourly hotel in Beijing rental up to four hours. Most of the time, you book the room on the same day. There are usually 2 to 3 star hotel, hourly rate is about 100 to 200 range. I have used several times during the last visit. I usually let the girl book it and check in first. Then tell me which room and I go in directly into the room. Because most of the hotels are for chinese citizen, not for the foreigner.