North China - Beijing

[Zhuren]

Never intended to offend someone. Regarding Maggies, maybe I picked a lucky day (as you see from my post before, first time after Pre-Olympics) maybe you picked an unlucky day. Even being kind of selective, when we had been there I have seen 4-5 ladies which have been far above "being doable" (maybe my pretensions are just to low).

I was with him on Saturday, and he was well taken care of. He just wants to keep the few real good ones for himself. The pointer with the phonebook is a good one, the gals will actually appreciate it when they don't have to venture out.

[FrequentTravel]

1. Basically Beijing is still NOT WORTH VISITING unless you have a phone full of contact numbers from days past.

2. Maggies - not even a shadow of it's former past. Saturday night - maybe 30 to 40 girls - 80 to 100 guys. Of all the girls there - maybe 3 or 4 doable - the others - forget it. (Clearly my good friend Worm is correct here - no matter how much Maggies shareholders in Zhuren and Sammy try to talk it up - it aint worth the effort). Now also quite a few Chinese in here working as well - 2 Ruskies - ugly as a hat full of busted arseholes.

4. China World Hotel lobby - not a w.h.o.r.e in sight - most unusual. Was approached by usual run of the mill fuglies in China World Shopping Centre - but as I have said before - I would not fuck the sluts with OAH's dick

In short - yes visit Beijing if you MUST - if you have a choice - steer clear.

Note: Above are Billy's personal views entirely - offered without fear or favour.

Never intended to offend someone. Regarding Maggies, maybe I picked a lucky day (as you see from my post before, first time after Pre-Olympics) maybe you picked an unlucky day. Even being kind of selective, when we had been there I have seen 4-5 ladies which have been far above "being doable" (maybe my pretensions are just to low).

Can not say much about China World Hotel lobby, but for some reasons I often spend some time on the street between China World and Silk Market in the afternoon. I get approached every time being there, whilst I admit, by girls who are "doable" at best. Probably the real stunners are somewhere else right now.

Again, I think BJ is on the way to recover in a certain way. (See post below)

Take care,

FT

[FrequentTravel]

I agree that Beijing in general is on it's way to recovery, but we should not get our hopes up.

We are getting back to the normal "cycle" of activity by Beijing's finest, but I think the "peaks" in the security cycle will continue to be higher, and the "valleys" will never go back to 2007 levels.

Sammy

Total agreement on that. As you quoted I said: "on the way to recover". Actually it was the first time after the Pre-Olympic breakdown that we have been at M. and honestly, I didn’t like it. The atmosphere changed. The pool table is far off in the corner (my favourite place before), I don’t like the new set-up of the bar and most of all I have a problem with this, am I allowed to say "gay", wall painting with the mirrors.

Anyhow, I guess times are changing and we need to adapt. Don’t want to start talking about the times close to workers stadium, before they moved to Ritan Park.

Luckily I am pretty sure/know in some cases, that the girls also adapt. So probably one should just make the best out of the current situation and be thankful for having experienced better times. (As so often in life)

Take care,

FT

[Bad Boy Billy]

OK guys clearly you are getting mixed and inconsistent info regarding the current state of P4P action in Beijing.

With this in mind your friend Billy ventured into town last weekend for 36 hours to do a recon run.

Here are my findings and conclusions:

1. Basically Beijing is still NOT WORTH VISITING unless you have a phone full of contact numbers from days past.

2. Maggies - not even a shadow of it's former past. Saturday night - maybe 30 to 40 girls - 80 to 100 guys. Of all the girls there - maybe 3 or 4 doable - the others - forget it. (Clearly my good friend Worm is correct here - no matter how much Maggies shareholders in Zhuren and Sammy try to talk it up - it aint worth the effort). Now also quite a few Chinese in here working as well - 2 Ruskies - ugly as a hat full of busted arseholes.

2. Lido - fucking dead - fucking useless - fucking avoid it - late Sunday night visit - 11.00pm

3. Hollywood - here was the surprise - the Ruskies are back - some really gorgeous ones too - plenty of Chinese - and Mongolians. Downside - the prices - the cunts are now asking RMB1,200 up from the previous standard price of RMB800. Now in Hollywood I saw what I believe may have been the BEST LOOKING Chines w.h.o.r.e I have ever seen - I have seen better looking Chinese women - but this was the best looking Chinese w.h.o.r.e I have ever seen. 6ft 1in tall - long lean body as hard as a rock - what a stunner - but not 1 word of english - RMB1,200 ST - I did not partake. (Sorry NBG - the Movie Star was not in attendance)

4. China World Hotel lobby - not a w.h.o.r.e in sight - most unusual. Was approached by usual run of the mill fuglies in China World Shopping Centre - but as I have said before - I would not fuck the sluts with OAH's dick

Did not get to HRC, Suzy Wongs etc - will be back lat April - further report then.

Funniest thing Billy saw in Beijing this weekend?

The look of sheer joy and happiness on Chi Chi's face as she now can proudly strut around Maggies offering her wares - clearly her new found liberation has made her so happy.

In short - yes visit Beijing if you MUST - if you have a choice - steer clear.

Note: Above are Billy's personal views entirely - offered without fear or favour.

[Zhuren]

We are getting back to the normal "cycle" of activity by Beijing's finest, but I think the "peaks" in the security cycle will continue to be higher, and the "valleys" will never go back to 2007 levels.

Jeez. Seems like the global meltdown has reached our sport. How about creating a VIX type volatility index for each city?

[Zhuren]

But you would be a big traffucker and could give interviews to the media telling them about the attrocities Mongolians commit in bed

These atrocities are unspeakable.

[Beijing Fox]

But you would be a big traffucker and could give interviews to the media telling them about the attrocities Mongolians commit in bed

Come to think of it, from what they overcharged Sammy & me in the olden days, the two of us should own a good chunk of the place.

Not that I would want it during the currently iffy situation.

[Zhuren]

He cannot be an owner. They've cheated him too often on his tab in the past

Come to think of it, from what they overcharged Sammy & me in the olden days, the two of us should own a good chunk of the place.

Not that I would want it during the currently iffy situation.

[Sammy_T]

St. M. definitely is on the way to recover!!

FT

I agree that Beijing in general is on it's way to recovery, but we should not get our hopes up. My sources tell me that things will be "OK" for the next few weeks, with another crack down occuring around the May holiday. Then things will relax again, until November. This October is the 60th aniversary of the PRC, and word on the street is the goverment plans to crack down at Olympic levels for November and October. Then relax again, before another crack down around Spring Festival...

We are getting back to the normal "cycle" of activity by Beijing's finest, but I think the "peaks" in the security cycle will continue to be higher, and the "valleys" will never go back to 2007 levels.

On the plus side, there are still several girls from the North that pass through Beijing on their way to Hong Kong, Macau, and Singapore. I get messages on a weekly basis from girls passing through, looking to earn some traveling money. If you are a senior member passing through Beijing send me a message and I will pass along who I know to be in town.

Happy Hunting!

Sammy

[Andy Cheng]

I'm just back from a short trip to Beijing. Been to Beijing several times and I must say that Shanghai is far far ahead of beijing in terms of pricing and also in terms of Quality of Service.

This time I came across a street that had plenty of BBS (I lost count to be honest)

The QingNianGou Lu on either side of the HePingLi West Rd is full of BBS. All the places offer only HJ and the service varies.

The price varies from 100 to 200 depending upon your negotiation skills. However the service also varies depending upon the price you pay.

I'm happy to be back in Shanghai.

[FrequentTravel]

@Worm,

I have nothing to contribute about mongering in BJ at the moment (ups, same like you). But Zhuren definitely is a great guy. Actually what he wrote about Maggies seems quite reasonable.

Everything he wrote (apart from the ironic answer) can be confirmed from my point of view. Been there on Thursday two weeks ago. Even being there without really searching, there was talent. Got “picked up” many times by look of the eyes, further negations were suppressed by my girlfriend. (Unfortunately she is not yet into picking up a girl together, Zhuren really is a lucky guy).

Also the stuff about young guys (ok, young is not bad, but referring to young as: “ Wow, did you hear, there is a place where they serve hoes on a table, let´s go there that we can have a look and report something home”) a lot of guys had been there. Hope the situation will change soon (as well as the mind of girlfriend, already talking about the idea and what kind of girls we like)

Sorry for not contributing more, but St. M. definitely is on the way to recover!!

FT

[Beijing Fox]

He cannot be an owner. They've cheated him too often on his tab in the past

I am starting to think Zhuren is one of the owners of Maggies. The reports seem to be more advertising than reality.

[Zhuren]

I am starting to think Zhuren is one of the owners of Maggies. The reports seem to be more advertising than reality.

I forgot to mention: There were several camera men from major networks freezing their dicks off while lurking in the bushes of Ritan Park.

A Homeland Security officer fingerprinted all patrons of the establishment.

Church groups mobbed taxis of departing customers, shouting "Repent! Repent!"

A fat girl from UB showed up at the unusual hour of 9pm, and when cornered by a 90 Minutes reporter, grinned into the camera and said: "The early bird gets the worm."

[Worm]

During several spot checks, one on slow Monday, and one on last Saturday, Maggie's was found reasonably crowded with ample supply.

- A lot of new talent fresh off the train from UB
- Complaints about a lack of demand as the big spenders have left town and are replaced by "moneyless young guys who just come for a drink and a look"
- Even the good looking ones report no transactions for days
- Admittance policy seems to be relaxing

I am starting to think Zhuren is one of the owners of Maggies. The reports seem to be more advertising than reality.

[Zhuren]

During several spot checks, one on slow Monday, and one on last Saturday, Maggie's was found reasonably crowded with ample supply.

- A lot of new talent fresh off the train from UB
- Complaints about a lack of demand as the big spenders have left town and are replaced by "moneyless young guys who just come for a drink and a look"
- Even the good looking ones report no transactions for days
- Due to the above, the real stunners have not returned and moved elsewhere (S'pore or HK)
- Admittance policy seems to be relaxing