North China - Beijing

[Steve Naive]

I have stayed more than 100 nights at the Hilton and never had any problems bringing girls in. If you take one from Maggies after 1 am or so, reception is normally deserted. There will only be a guard who will look ostentatiously the other way.).

You have been to Hilton much more htan me, but I never had a problem bringing a girl into Hilton (or Sheraton GW or Trader's). At the latter two the same (invited) girl managed to get to my door with no problem. My only reason for being discrete at Hilton is a work colleague I don't know well.

Personally, I wouldn't touch the sidewalk girls as I don't think it is safe or even clean.

I keep reading that here, and I don't know why. My experiences, though limited, have been both safe and clean. I even made it a point to look and smell last night, even though there was no direct contact there. Sure, there have been some I have passed by that I could imagine neither clean nor safe. But I didn't take them to find out.

Besides, Mongolians are much more to my taste, both in physique and attitude. But 1000 RMB is indeed the price for LT, unless you are picking her up after 3 AM (beware you may be her second catch of the night).

I was quoted 1000 ST by two (separate) Chinese ladies in the Hilton. Not worth it to me, since I have better choices for less.

I've never had the pleasure of a Mongolian, but hope that might change during this trip. Attitude-wise, the sidewalk girls I have had have been pleasant, though this recent one rushed me a bit too much. GFE-wise, I still like Thai girls the best... in Thailand.

What's the EARLIEST time for reasonably getting one from Maggie's? I'm not a late night guy.

[Maztermac]

Haven't posted anything for quite some time and thought it's about time for me to contribute my exprience with this MP in WangJing. I've been visiting WangJing MP on and off for the past few months and for the last three visits instead of going to the MP I've ordered out. The girls have been coming to my hotel to provide a massage and handjob, or so I thought. On two occasions (two different girls) I managed to get a whole the whole shebang FS with totally GFE. The first time I just thought the girl just really digs me and wanted a boyfriend but the second girl who came a couple of days later was also the same. Both girls stayed longer that the allotted 90 minutes actually they stayed for 180 minutes so I had to pay for two sessions plus taxi fare. I'm starting to wonder if most of the girls provides this service when they're at the hotels? The great thing was no mention of any extra payment for the extra services, maybe it's included in the second session? Obvisously I've visited these girls at WangJing before but never expected to get FS for the price of a HJ.

66.66% hit rate is not to bad. Anyone have a similar exprience there?

MazterMac

[Kunshan]

Hi Patricklim1234

the following is the best way to get in to Maggies if you are Asian

1. Walk in with a group of white guys, speak English to the bouncers IF they challange you. Normally the bouncers won't say anything if you are in a foreign looking group.
2. Show your passport

What ever you do, do not speak Chinese to the door staff if you are Asian looking.

[Patricklim1234]

I was interested in how the Chinese scene here in Beijing works compared with the FKKs over in Germany. So I dropped by all three places, The Pig, Hollywood and Maggies to see what differences there would be.

The Pig - I did a quick drop by this place, the standard of girls was about a 5-6 to me when I went at about 10pm. There was a good selection, ranging from young to old, short to tall, etc. There were only 2 caucasian girls, I assume to be russian, I'd rate them an 8 and a 7. I didn't stay long as the place was too small and I wasn't interested in any of the women anyway.

The Hollywood - I spent more time here, so more comments. There was much more action here, the place seem to be a little bigger. I arrived here at 10.30pm. For both the asian / mongolian as well as the russian / caucasian women, I'd say there was a pretty good range of 4-9. The better ones get picked fast and go off to the hotels with their clients. Going early and hard in on the person that first turns you on might be a good idea, as you have no idea when she might be returning. The standard price here seems to be 800 ST, 2400 LT for both the asians as well as the russians. The turnover rate here seems to be very high, as in, people come in and leave fast. Once they've found their partner, they leave the place.

Maggies - I wasn't allowed in, I later found out from the Taxi driver that it was because they only allowed caucasians in (I am asian). No matter, from the outside I could more or less tell the situation, which I was more interested in. The women seem to only be chinese / mongolian, I was intrigued and asked the taxi driver who later sent me home, he said that that is the case for this club. So for those who like these kind of women, please go ahead. I saw about 10 girls total enter the club, they ranged from 4-7.5. The bad thing I noticed about this place was that there seem to be quite a number of men leaving alone. I only saw 2 guys leaving with women while about 6 guys left alone.

FKKs - For those who haven't been to the better FKKs in Germany, you are definitely missing out. After a 65 Euros entrance fee, for 50 Euros (~500RMB) you can get a good fuck with a girl of your choice and they parade around naked. I find the standard of women in the better FKKs definitely better than my experience here for the night. I'm personally more into caucasian blonds, so perhaps I'm a little bias and more suited there. One disadvantage I found in FKKs is that you can't go LT with them. But of course, there have been quite a number of horror stories regarding girls leaving early here in China.

Overall I think it is a matter of taste, in what kind of women you like. China is definitely a great place for asian pussy, and a lot of women seem to be throwing themselves at most caucasian men. Eithercase, good luck all.

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[Pier20]

I love Mongolians and your city has a lot of hot ones to offer. I had the Pleasure of spending time with Erka and Onorro when I was in Beijing over a year ago. They were unfortgetable experiences.

I will be in town around May 20 and would love to get together with them again. Anyone knows if they are in town?

Thanks,

Joe

Erka was still in Beijing a few weeks ago. I spent one evening with her at Maggies, and even if she ended a little drunk, she showed a very nice attitude, especially for the morning call :-)

[Fredo24]

I have stayed more than 100 nights at the Hilton and never had any problems bringing girls in. If you take one from Maggies after 1 am or so, reception is normally deserted. There will only be a guard who will look ostentatiously the other way.

Personally, I wouldn't touch the sidewalk girls as I don't think it is safe or even clean.
Besides, Mongolians are much more to my taste, both in physique and attitude. But 1000 RMB is indeed the price for LT, unless you are picking her up after 3 AM (beware you may be her second catch of the night).

Nothing doing on the 3rd Ring Road as we headed to a restaurant at 8pm... except guys who wanted to take us to bars for ladies. By 9pm one slim and reasonably ok lady was offering massage (which means sex). But I'm with a colleague I don't know well, so I ignored her.

Coming back to Hilton on Saturday night, three girls in the lobby, on a couch or chair not far from the elevator area, one giving me the look. I did not do more than get her number then, again trying to be discreet.

Later on, after a massage, only one left in the lobby. How much? She said "two dollars" but I think she meant $200. I opened my wallet to show Chinese money and she said 1000. The one whose number I got, when I called next day, also said 1000.

These girls were 5 or 6 at best. I have often found worthwhile ladies with a nice attitude on the sidewalk south of hear towards Great Wall Sheraton / Hard Rock, generally 500-600, so I see little reason to pay more for less-attractive women in the Hilton lobby... well, there's the convenience factor, I suppose, which is why they command a higher price. And perhaps they had to pay someone to be there in the first place. I have never seen lobby girls here before.

Yes, I know I can do much better by going farther afield.

If anyone has current numbers to get a girl sent to my room, I'd be grateful, as it is convenient when I have to be discreet. If you do PM me, please include expected price. Thanks.

[Fredo24]

[QUOTE=Kunshan]

Maggies is actually tasteful. The bouncers are polite, unless you are a local Chinese. Not clear given the number of locals who make good money (often much more affluent that the deadbeat tourist and ex-pat), they are turned away. I have traveled all over the world and have never experienced this. QUOTE]Maggies keeps the local authorities happy by only having Laowai working girls for Laowai guys, ie not a problem for China. Thats why they can operate openly and in the embassy area. If they had a lot of Chinese customers then I guess they would be closed down.

To clarify further, prostitution is illegal in China. So Chinese men paying foreign (Mongolian) girls for sex is illegal. Sex between consenting foreigners even if one pays the other is tolerated.

[Steve Naive]

Saturday
Nothing doing - too early - on the 3rd Ring Road as we headed to a restaurant at 8pm... except guys who wanted to take us to bars for ladies. By 9pm one slim and reasonably ok lady was offering massage (means sex). But I'm with a colleague I don't know well, so I ignored her. Alone, I would be stopping to chat, at least.

Coming back to Hilton on Saturday night, three girls in the lobby, on a couch or chair not far from the elevator area, one giving me the look. I did not do more than get her number then, again trying to be discreet.

Later on, after a "clean" massage at the place next to Hilton, only one girl left in the lobby. How much? She said "two dollars" but I think she meant $200. I opened my wallet to show Chinese money and she said 1000.

These girls rated 5-6. With better ladies, good attitude on the sidewalk south of here towards Great Wall Sheraton / Hard Rock, it's generally 500-600, so I see little reason to pay more for less-attractive women in the Hilton lobby... well, there's the convenience factor, I suppose, which is why they command a higher price. And perhaps they had to pay someone to be there in the first place. I have never seen lobby girls here in previous visits.

Yes, I know about the bars and other options, but I like the convenience of the strip.

Sunday
Afternoon: called Lili. She wants 1000. Too much, I say, and hang up.

9pm: A walk along 3rd ring road, Luftansa in the direction of HRC. There are usually ladies on this strip between 9-11pm. Before I got to "the strip" proper, I was greeted by a cute petite Chinese girl, Li Xue, about a 7 on my scale. How much? You tell me. So I say 500. She asks 600 but settles on my offer. I figure if I'm totally pleased I tip her to her amount or more.

A happy, giggly, puppy dog of a girl, she is very pleasant to be with. Petite, ample boobs, small amount of chub on her waist. Smiles and laughs a lot, teases me a bit. Showers me nicely. No BJ, though, and I didn't ask. I like that as an appetizer, but it isn't a huge thing for me. She was enthusiastic enough but rushed me a little, so I was less than satisfied, but it was nice. Another shower. An offer to stay for another 400, but I have a long day tomorrow.

I have reasonably good luck on this strip, getting girls who are cute enough and have a cheerful attitude (one I reported last year was singing as we headed to the hotel). I have also talked to (and walked on from) girls who are a bit more hardened. Never a problem with security in my room, though I don't leave things out and they usually don't spend the night. Hilton staff greets me as I walk in with a girl, never a question.

What I especially like is that with a 7 minute walk I can quickly get company in the middle evening. The only thing better would be if they were available all day and night, but 9-11pm seems to be prime time here.

[Joes]

I love Mongolians and your city has a lot of hot ones to offer. I had the Pleasure of spending time with Erka and Onorro when I was in Beijing over a year ago. They were unfortgetable experiences.

I will be in town around May 20 and would love to get together with them again. Anyone knows if they are in town?

Thanks,

Joe

[Tim Bone]

I came back from my first time holidays in China 3 weeks ago. Not a mongering holiday but I keep my eyes open. Priority was being a regular tourist. My first stop was Beijing with the regular tourist sites, the Wall, Forbidden City. I did some reading in the forum in advance, and I have to say the China forum very active. Thanks to you guys who invest your time in creating and posting maps with actual locations and even satellite images from Google Earth, just a fantastic tool for a guy who just landed in town. I had just one night out, Saturday. I started by going to Sanlitun, and I just landed in the middle of it. I was actually looking for an ordinary bar, but there was only ladybars. I walked the street from north to south and when I finally came to the end of the street, I took some time to talk to a mama. She claimed 800 for a night take-away, which didn’t sound to bad considering the prices stated in this forum. It’s still more than 100 USD. Actually find China quite pricy compared to other Asian destinations. According to the business card she is a Supervisor Manager at Beijing ShiXin Girl Club. But I had plans for the night so I walked to Mix, a potential freebee place? Well, not my kind of place really, one of those to noisy discos with bad music. Was a 50 RMB entry fee, no drinks included. Had a beer and looked around a bit. Took a taxi to Suzy Wong. Better place for me. Not so much people there, obviously ladies night on Wednesday is the night. Looked into a pub on the other side of the street, G&D, but was almost empty. It was late, so took a taxi back to the hotel. Very convenient using taxi inn Beijing. Never had any problems and they switch on the meter as soon as they start. Should have done my night out in the other directions, but had a good time.

Off to Yangshuo. See Guilin

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[Mark17]

From the reports I have read, it seems that the best paces to visit in Beijing are:

The Pig
Hollywood
Maggies

Can some one please give me full addresses for these places as most taxi drivers in beijing don't speak english and probably won't understand just by name. Please list any other similar bars with top end girls if I missed in the list.

Easiest way is to go to the conceirge desk at the hotel you are at, and ask him to write directions to each place on separate hotel cards. Write a note in English on them so you know which one is which, and you can easily go from one place to another. Have one for the Pig, Suzy Wong's and HRC too. And you should be able to find someone during the course of the night.

[SidTheSexist]

I was approached by a mongolian in maggies (suprisingly) last weekend. It was about 4am. She asked me straight up, you want to go with me? I asked how much and she said 1000rmb. I said no, too much. She asked me how much I would pay. Told her 400, expecting a slap in the face. She came back with 600 so I said OK. She said, back to her place so I put her through the usual questioning of where abouts, roomates, chinese building etc? It was all good, so off we went. Intl building in WangJing, roomates out for the night, and 600rmb for LT.
Done the deed, which was nothing much, never mind memorable for me. I was out like a light on the bed and the next thing I know, its 7am and shes got me up. Theres two angry mongolian roomates (of whom, I think 1 I had, had previous dealings) sitting in the front room and my girl is zipping up the biggest suitcase Ive ever seen. We ended up rushing out of the apartment and down to the taxi rank where she jumped in and sped off to the airport to catch her flight to Ulan Bator!!!! so much for my LT!!!
Another Maggies experience ticked off the list!!
Sid

[Kunshan]

[QUOTE=Johnthomas0519]
Maggies is actually tasteful. The bouncers are polite, unless you are a local Chinese. Not clear given the number of locals who make good money (often much more affluent that the deadbeat tourist and ex-pat), they are turned away. I have traveled all over the world and have never experienced this. QUOTE]

Maggies keeps the local authorities happy by only having Laowai working girls for Laowai guys, ie not a problem for China. Thats why they can operate openly and in the embassy area. If they had a lot of Chinese customers then I guess they would be closed down.

[Brasscork]

Hi all,

I will be staying at Tianlun beginning june and intend to visit the KTV. I was wondering how much I should prepare for a visit to the KTV. I did a search but it was rather old reports just hope to get an update. The prices stated are for groups of 5-6 guys also.

Since I intend to visit alone as I do not know anyone in Beijing - May i know if there are rooms for a small party (maybe 2-3 people) and how much will it cost. To my understand it will cost appx 1000RMB which will include 2 bottles? The next question is if I can't finish the liquour, will the KTV be able to hold it for a next visit and how much will this next visit cost me?

Just to re-confirm the appx amount is
Mami : 200-300RMB
Girl tips : 400RMB
Takeout (may i ask if this is LT?) : as high as 2000RMB?

Of course I take this chance to have any seniors to join me and show me the ropes if you are free and I am not bringing you any trouble. Also helps to split the cost :P Will post my FR for my 6 day trip to PEK.

Cheers!

Brass

[JohnThomas0519]

You can walk to Maggies from Hollywood. Neighborhood is very safe since a number of embassies are there. Full of security. Only danger is being run over by the crazy drivers. No one seems to obey the traffic lights.

Hollywood is definitely full of russians. The range varies. Some real babes along with some dogs. Trouble with this place is attitude of doormen and staff. Air quality is another problem as it is defintely marlboro country.

Maggies is actually tasteful. The bouncers are polite, unless you are a local Chinese. Not clear given the number of locals who make good money (often much more affluent that the deadbeat tourist and ex-pat), they are turned away. I have traveled all over the world and have never experienced this.

BTW, thanks for info on the bar taxis in front of hollywood. Was confused why all those cars are parked there with drivers. Also does anyone know what the going rate is for the russian girls for an overnite?