South China - Guangzhou

[Weelock]

Yue Tan Sauna will be a good choice which was directly located in Yue Tan south Street, you can enjoy extra services there, feel free to PM me if you can't find it.

I want to know some more info about this place. A biz card or tel phone. Can't PM you since you are not a senior member. Regular members can't PM others.

[Number87]

I moved to Guangzhou back in February. I arrived just after the crack down started. I've been lurking on this forum since then. I have to say what I've read on this forum and what I've experience on the ground has been two different things. Let me start with the street walkers, then I will move onto the massage places.

I haven't had any problems with the SW's. Not a single one has tried to rip me off or upsell me. The service has been outstanding from them and on par with the service I get from girls in Thailand. They never clock watch and will stay at my place for hours. About half of them spend the night at my place, and give me a 2nd or 3rd pop before they leave. The only downside, and I don't consider this a downside at all is that they are in their 30's. Guess what guys, there are plenty of fit women in their 30's. It seems like for most mongers, it the girl isn't in her early 20's, he isn't interested. I can only imagine what they would do if the legal age was lower than this.

I've also heard a lot on this board that massage parlors aren't taking any chances since the crackdown. Every place I've been too has offered me HJ included with the massage. A couple of these places have told me that they offer HJ and BJ in the lobby before I even step in the room. How is this not taking chances? Is it because I'm white and they know there is no way I could possible be the police? Or when it was said that they aren't taking chances, did it mean they won't offer FS since the crackdown? If that is the case, then I stand corrected. None of these places have offered me FS.

However, I was at the Shui Bo massage in Gang Ding. They have the really dark rooms. I figured this would be the place to make my move to get some FS at a massage place. There is this one girl there that gives the best massages. Do you know how Chinese broads always straddle you while you lie face down to rub your shoulders. Well this girl would straddle me dick up to rub my chest and arms. As she moved up my torso, she would straddle further up my legs until her crotch was above mine. When it got to that point, she was grinding against my crotch with hers. Every time when wanted to say something to me, she would lean down until her lips were just a couple centimeters above mine. She gave me a kiss at the end of the massage. Keep in mind, this was just their most standard massage too. Not the one that comes with 'extras'. I figured if I was going to make my move, it would be with this girl.

I came back to Shui Bo the next week and requested the same girl. This time I stuffed 500 RMB and a condom in my phone case and brought it into the massage room with me. When it got to that point in the massage to turn over and ask if I wanted a HJ, she did the little upsell. For a 100 RMB more, I get the topless nuru massage. All this money goes to the front desk of course, and the massage girl gets a tiny cut. I told her with the limited amount of Chinese I have learned since being here, is that I will give the front desk the money for the massage, and pointing at her, I would give her 500 RMB for sex. She seemed confused as to how I would do this. So I got my phone and showed her my 500 RMB. Her eyes lit up like I had just shown her a thousand US dollars. It must have been a lot of money compared to what the front desk gives her. It sure is great to monger in a country where you have more money in your wallet than what these girls make in a month. She got excited and took the money. She took off her clothes, laid down and spread her legs asking me to put it. I was so excited I finished quickly. She cleaned up really fast probably scared that someone would find the evidence. I got the feeling that she is one of these masseuses that is OK offering a HJ but won't offer FS, but when 500 rmb is flashed in front of her face, she's willing to change her mind. Probably not true, but I enjoyed playing that fantasy in my head. When I left to pay my massage bill, I noticed the bill was very low. Shad told the front desk that I ordered the cheapest massage on the menu. Give that girl a gold star!

[Lpas0]

I'm not usually in Guangzhou but will be there soon for a convention. Can anyone suggest FS sauna anywhere in the area or accessible via metro / taxi from there? Feel free to PM me. Thanks in advance.

Besides, former posts may be helpful for some useful information.

[Lpas0]

I'm not usually in Guangzhou but will be there soon for a convention. Can anyone suggest FS sauna anywhere in the area or accessible via metro / taxi from there? Feel free to PM me. Thanks in advance.

Yue Tan Sauna will be a good choice which was directly located in Yue Tan south Street, you can enjoy extra services there, feel free to PM me if you can't find it.

[SHtraveller]

Hi guys,

I am planning to visit GuangZhou in end of July for just a few days and I was hoping to find some idea what to do for fun.

Many years ago I tried escorts, but all photos were fakes and service was just okay. But I found an escort site with real photos as well.

Unfortunately I cannot find the site any more.

Can anyone give me a hint what to do for this short stay in Guangzhou?

Any recommended Saunas?

I love to have girls in my hotel room and this is my first choice.

I used to "make friends" with sauna girls and ask them out after work. Will that work in Guangzhou too?

If anyone wants to do some mongering together please send me a pm.

[Tryfor5]

I'm not usually in Guangzhou but will be there soon for a convention. Can anyone suggest FS sauna anywhere in the area or accessible via metro / taxi from there? Feel free to PM me. Thanks in advance.

[Tony6969]

I figured that's what it meant but wasnt 100% sure. I live near Yongtai so its kinda far from the main foreigner areas. I'm using both Momo and Wechat but I have not had a hit on Wechat in forever and since lately I can't even see their tagline and first 10 moments when viewing profiles on Nearby People its really hard without really adding everyone on the freaking list. With Momo I've found 1 w / a wechat I'd that quoted 1500/2200 which is pretty freaking high.

True, but becoming more common. Still lots who will go for 600, especially if you hold out and they don't happen to have heaps of guys lined up at the time. They'll push the price as high as they can, and if they can push the price up to 1500 and even half the amount of guys will still accept, they still make more money and only need to do half the amount of work!

Yongtai, huh? Look back a bit on the forum and I believe you'll find some posts about some action a few stations north of you at Renhe. Also saw incalls posted 3 stops south and one posted 2 stops north. Those incalls are great bargains, but it's easy to be refused if you don't speak Chinese. PM me and I can share some info on the incalls, especially if you can speak Chinese.

[Viajando Musico]

Which other clubs are good to find CIS or South American ladies? Any clubs in Tianhe area?

There is DUO at the end of Chien Se Liu Ma Lu (the side street of Garden Hotel). You can find both CIS and Latinas there, but be careful, many girls there are not in the trade. I had also been brought to this bar close by a few times. The girls called it Latina, but I understand that is not the name of the bar. I think the name is Cuerva. I don't have the address or exact location of this bar. It is on the ground floor of an office building close to Garden Hotel. This bar plays Latin music all the time, and if you speak Spanish, you could have great time there. My favorite also brought me to Cave once. I don't know if it is a pick up bar, but it is a fun place to bring a girl to. It is right next to Garden Hotel. Sorry nothing is in the Tianhe district.

[SilverSurfie]

ML is pretty common shorthand for "make love". When you say you haven had much luck finding any in your area, what method / app are you using? Momo? WeChat?

I figured that's what it meant but wasnt 100% sure. I live near Yongtai so its kinda far from the main foreigner areas. I'm using both Momo and Wechat but I have not had a hit on Wechat in forever and since lately I can't even see their tagline and first 10 moments when viewing profiles on Nearby People its really hard without really adding everyone on the freaking list. With Momo I've found 1 w / a wechat I'd that quoted 1500/2200 which is pretty freaking high. I also see quite a few 夜蒲 girls; Ye Pu in the area but one I straight up propositioned gave me the sweat emoticon so pretty sure Ye Pu is nightlife people and not exactly working girls per se. My working girl radar is so bad I dont even think I've noticed a WG even walking by them on the streets since I look like such a young chinese dude, sure they might be dressed hot but if they dont make eye contact there is no way for me to tell. >.<

[Sik007]

I was surprised with all inflation going through the roof in the last few years in China, the Colombiana in Kama still hold the price at 600 RMB for ST, at least 1.5 months ago when I was there. Maybe because many of the guests in KAMA are hard bargainer...LOL. At this rate, they really need to do at least 2 guys per night to be able to stay around, and send home some help to their kids or families. The last couple years I have befriended with a few of them, and did some toda-la-noche with them. Even without pre-agreement on the charges they were all happy with the equivalent of $200-300, mostly on the higher end.

I normally exchanged message with them before my arrival, so they would wait for me at the club. We would then enjoy a few drinks together before we left for other clubs or my hotel. Unfortunately, my favorite of the bunch had gone home to Medellin. Though there are still quite a few attractive girls there, I found myself not enjoying this Club any more. In the past year, the management of KAMAother than always rude attitude has turned to greedy mode. The harassment from the Maseros and flower girls has gone out of hand. Now if you want to sit on one of their table, you have to consume at least 7-800 RMB if I remember correctly, or they will ask you to vacant the table and kick you to the curb (side). If you talk to any girl, the flower girl will surely find you in no time and harass you to buy their flowers (or stuffed animals). And they are probably the worst of its kind, like fruit flies, not easy to fan off. I don't want to wish ill or call for boycott of this club, because this is where my Colombian friends have to make their living.

Fortunately, there are other places these girls have brought me to where you don't have to fight off the waiters or the flower girls, and can enjoy the Latin music you are more familiar with. Even order in your favorite songs.

Which other clubs are good to find CIS or South American ladies? Any clubs in Tianhe area?

[Tony6969]

I have not had too much luck finding any in my area although I have seen a few in Tianhe area, just none near me that were obvious about it. My working girl radar just flat out sucks. Any tips on how to broach the conversation? BTW what does ML mean?

ML is pretty common shorthand for "make love". When you say you haven had much luck finding any in your area, what method / app are you using? Momo? WeChat?

[Viajando Musico]

I was surprised with all inflation going through the roof in the last few years in China, the Colombiana in Kama still hold the price at 600 RMB for ST, at least 1.5 months ago when I was there. Maybe because many of the guests in KAMA are hard bargainer...LOL. At this rate, they really need to do at least 2 guys per night to be able to stay around, and send home some help to their kids or families. The last couple years I have befriended with a few of them, and did some toda-la-noche with them. Even without pre-agreement on the charges they were all happy with the equivalent of $200-300, mostly on the higher end.

I normally exchanged message with them before my arrival, so they would wait for me at the club. We would then enjoy a few drinks together before we left for other clubs or my hotel. Unfortunately, my favorite of the bunch had gone home to Medellin. Though there are still quite a few attractive girls there, I found myself not enjoying this Club any more. In the past year, the management of KAMAother than always rude attitude has turned to greedy mode. The harassment from the Maseros and flower girls has gone out of hand. Now if you want to sit on one of their table, you have to consume at least 7-800 RMB if I remember correctly, or they will ask you to vacant the table and kick you to the curb (side). If you talk to any girl, the flower girl will surely find you in no time and harass you to buy their flowers (or stuffed animals). And they are probably the worst of its kind, like fruit flies, not easy to fan off. I don't want to wish ill or call for boycott of this club, because this is where my Colombian friends have to make their living.

Fortunately, there are other places these girls have brought me to where you don't have to fight off the waiters or the flower girls, and can enjoy the Latin music you are more familiar with. Even order in your favorite songs.

[MrClen]

Reliable information from a policeman friend of mine. There will be a crackdown on drunk driving lasting for a month coming soon with very severe penalties. Be careful out there!! Mrclen.

[SilverSurfie]

2 local MPs near me in Tianhe cautiously reintroduced B2B massage with CBJ or BBBJ (YMMV). Chatting on Momo recently, and I've noticed the SOP is fairly consistent. The WGs on Momo will usually have "profession" listed as "student","freelance" or "none" (note to proceed with caution however, as there are still lots of girls who actually do fall into there categories, so it's only a starting point. I've also encountered a few humorous ladies who fill in profession as "you guess" which is probably the most telling of all! Anyway, in part of their profile, usually in the Tagline or About Me sections, if they are looking for business, they'll direct you to their WeChat account, which translated from the Chinese directly is called "micro signal". They also seem to refer to Momo as "unfamiliar street". Nobody wants to chat about details on Momo.get to a secondary mode of communication first, like WeChat or SMS. If you try to talk business on Momo, you'll likely get quickly blocked. In my best success story so far, I was asked simply,"ML" (with no question mark) and when it came out that I was a foreigner I was told (as often happens) sorry, I don't meet foreign friends. But I kept seeing her online and would chat lightly periodically, eventually wearing her down and she perhaps seeing the potential for seriously inflated prices, quoted me a whopping 3000! I basically laughed at her, saying 600 was standard and even CL fake ads posted by Gangster-run agencies only charged 1000. After maybe 7-10 days, increasing familiarity and me sharing slightly kinky details of some other exploits (yes it was a risk, but as it turned out, one that paid off) she perhaps in a moment of weakness, agreed to 600. She was 21, tight smooth body, ultimately inexperienced but passionate, true bona Fide GFE. She has a day job where she makes around 300 per 10-hour day. I think there are an increasing number of these decently educated girls between 19-25 who realize they can charge a high amount only maybe once per week and hugely increase their earnings without being a regular WG. I've seen her 3 more times since and she's a total sweetheart, clean and very down to earth. But beware, more often than not, on Momo (directed to WeChat) you will generally be quoted around 1700 for once or 2500 for overnight. Do not pay these prices! It's an attempt to change the entire price structure, taking advantage of the crackdown, the nouveau riche locals and the ignorance of foreigners. If you dig a little deeper, prices will be found at around half of these.

Happy hunting!

I have not had too much luck finding any in my area although I have seen a few in Tianhe area, just none near me that were obvious about it. My working girl radar just flat out sucks. Any tips on how to broach the conversation? BTW what does ML mean?

[Tony6969]

I had some really enjoyable time there and I highly recommend it!

You didn't really answer any of the man's questions.

I can't answer all of them (I've often wondered as well when the earliest is that I can show up for some take-away S. American treat).

But I can tell you that there are still ample supply, and that the going rate is definitely 600 for an hour (and most won't try to just leave as soon as the deed is done if you finish in 30 min for example. It's a good idea to lay the groundwork for this ahead of time though, just to make sure. Or you can do what I do pitch the "buy 2, get 1 free" deal. I've never had a S. American SW from KAMA turn me down for that yet. You pay 1200 and get 3 hours. And this way you know you're going to get the full 3 hours. Or at least I've never had any problems. My encounters have generally been very positive with the South Americans in Guangzhou IMHO their work ethic and ethics in general are much more upstanding than the typical low to mid-priced Chinese SW, who I've had a host of issues with over the years. A few examples: demanding cash up front and then leaving early, not following through with services agreed to during negotiations, and the infamous counterfeit money scam, where they take your money and quickly switch it with fake bills, and then claim you gave her fake bills. You, having taken the cash from the ATM are confident it's real, so you take it back. But little do you know she pulled the ol' switcheroo when you weren't looking, so you paid her twice and now you've got fake money on you! But I've never had any of these things happen with a good old spicy Colombian. The only fake thing about them are their huge, cartoonishly disproportioned breasts, like a life-sized Barbie doll.