South China - Guangzhou

[Gao Xing]

They hang out at inside the China hotel lobby too but they want 1000rmb back then to go to your room.

I stay in the China Hotel fairly often, and haven't seen any girls hanging around there anymore. Actually, there are always guards at the elevator banks, so I suspect that if you try to bring someone up to your room, it won't be GF (although I've never tried myself). There is a bar with a band just off the lobby, so there might be some WGs there, but last time I was there (several months ago) , I didn't see any. However, just outside the hotel on the main street (especially in front of the Mickey D's) , there are touts trying to get your business. I don't go with touts, so I can't report about their services.

[Bacchus9]

Arrived to the street in front of Gypsy King around 11:30 last night and right away it was clear the world's oldest profession was in interview mode right out front. Decided to check out Cave first which had a good crowd with active sales girls in good supply. 5/10 to 8/10 and several in full press mode. The bar top dancers, that rotated between Cave and Gypsy, were pretty hot, lookers and definitely enthusiastic. Made a pass in Gypsy King around 1 a. M, exotic scene with a lot of middle east guys mostly entertaining each other. A few sharing canaries they'd captured before I arrived. A few joined the paid dancer girls on the little stage much to the alarm of Security, but those Chinese girls just keep up the taunting come on dance. Slim pickin's. Have yet to see this place offer much in the way of take out. Still it has a low life atmosphere that's hard to find and the set up including hooka pipes, red lights and enthusiastic crowd is worth the price of admission. Free.

I was just out to enjoy the deafening music, beer and toy with the girls that came my way but there were a few good candidates for take home. Also to check back on the LE action. None. And, who knew, worthwhile discovery. Cave has great pizza!

[Perth Boy]

I have been reading reports for about a month now looks like Kama, Baby face and New Era would be my best option. I have been in town for a week but had other work comitments. Tonight (sat 22nd) is my only free night before I head off to Biejing. Can someone tell me how far these places are from the Garden hotel. Also what is the best way to get to these places or how long by taxi.

Also if any english speaking guys want to join me that would be great. Its a big city on your own.

I may have posted this a bit late.

Ok so I went out solo for the night. I went to find Kama and Babyface. Could not find it wallked around for a while. So got taxi back to hotel thought I would settle for mrs parmer. Dropped into the irish bar across the road from the garden hotel over the bridge. Had a few beers and a local girl joined me wasnt to long and I'm back at one of the local girls appartment. She was average and a bit old about my age. She said she has a friend if I wanted a 3some. We agreed the friend came in about 10 minutes. The friend was about 30 and a 7/10 but great body for her age. My eyes lite up and we got into it. Didn't think too much of the first girl but when finished the fist girl went back to the bar and me and lisa the second girl went to my hotel. We went to hotel bar drunk a few red wines had a chat then off to my room but the hotel staff wouldn't allow her. We went to her appartment just around the corner from the garden hotel for another go. All in all a good night. Tomorrow off to Beijing

[Bacchus9]

Hi bachhus9,

I wanted to contact you but you don't have pm available.

I will be in Guangzhou around 17/18 November and like to visit a KTV, but alone it is not too good, maybe you might have time to introduce a nice KTV and we could have some drinks / fun there.

Sorry it is not allowed here to give you my email address, maybe we could contact anyway.

Thanks,

Tijuana

Hello Tijuana,

Middle of November sounds good for some tapping the KTV scene in Guangzhou. I see Silver Surfie has moved recently to Guangzhou, is on the loose and might throw in with us and maybe the master of the "KTVs For a Quality Sex Life in Guangzhou", Fillmore, would join us or at least PM some recommendations for KTV's with girls at the 3/10/13 levels or under.

I'll be in Bangkok next week. Don't ask, commitments and a non-refundable ticket. But back to Guangzhou after the 2nd November and plenty of time to plan then. We can work out the contact.

Bacchus9

[Folder8]

Hi guys. I'm staying TianHe Road at President Hotel. Is there any action in the area? Massages? Saunas? Anything?

I searched up the thread but all the info is old, before the April Canton Fair. It's the October Canton Fair so is there any new updated info? I'm just wondering because last time I was here I didn't have the time / chance to go mongering but would love to do a test spin.

Thanks

[Perth Boy]

I have been reading reports for about a month now looks like Kama, Baby face and New Era would be my best option. I have been in town for a week but had other work comitments. Tonight (sat 22nd) is my only free night before I head off to Biejing. Can someone tell me how far these places are from the Garden hotel. Also what is the best way to get to these places or how long by taxi.

Also if any english speaking guys want to join me that would be great. Its a big city on your own.

I may have posted this a bit late.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Yes, babyface and all those other bars near the river are far and not easy to work through. I went a couple of times and did not have much luck, maybe I am Chinese American and that usually make it harder in bar settings. The girls usually go after foreigners.

Did you check out the Qbar at Westin? When I was there last month, I saw a couple of Chinese WGs that I have not seen before and they look quite good.

Fillmore

To Fillmore,

The old babyface near the China hotel my buddy take me there over 13 yr ago it full of very young girl damn too young, they hang out at inside the China hotel lobby too but they want 1000rmb back then to go to your room.

Fast Eddie 48

[Corpo]

Yes, babyface and all those other bars near the river are far and not easy to work through. I went a couple of times and did not have much luck, maybe I am Chinese American and that usually make it harder in bar settings. The girls usually go after foreigners.

Did you check out the Qbar at Westin? When I was there last month, I saw a couple of Chinese WGs that I have not seen before and they look quite good.

Fillmore

I'll be there in December, maybe worth a pop. I like to go after the FSU since I speak fluently and find there is always a connection.

Ther other one that I've never been to is Cave but not sure if the quality is the same as Kama.

[Member #4144]

I figured that since they did not look at all like the few Russians I've seen in Kama. What is your opinion of Babyface.

I've been told that it is worth a look. Seems kind of far from the center.

Yes, babyface and all those other bars near the river are far and not easy to work through. I went a couple of times and did not have much luck, maybe I am Chinese American and that usually make it harder in bar settings. The girls usually go after foreigners.

Did you check out the Qbar at Westin? When I was there last month, I saw a couple of Chinese WGs that I have not seen before and they look quite good.

Fillmore

[Corpo]

Duo has no WG as far as I can tell. I go there only if I already have a date, as it has a great dance floor.

Those beautiful Russians often work for modeling agencies. You may have noticed many billboard ads in China feature tall and slim white girls. My apt building in Tianhe has a few of those, as I often share the lift with them. It was kind of awkard to be squeezed into tight space with a few gorgeous women and all I could do was to stand perfectly still.

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Fillmore

I figured that since they did not look at all like the few Russians I've seen in Kama. What is your opinion of Babyface.

I've been told that it is worth a look. Seems kind of far from the center.

[Member #4144]

I recently checked out this club called Duo. Beautiful Russian girls but no response whatsoever. Does anyone have any experience in this place?

Maybe advice on approach.

Duo has no WG as far as I can tell. I go there only if I already have a date, as it has a great dance floor.

Those beautiful Russians often work for modeling agencies. You may have noticed many billboard ads in China feature tall and slim white girls. My apt building in Tianhe has a few of those, as I often share the lift with them. It was kind of awkard to be squeezed into tight space with a few gorgeous women and all I could do was to stand perfectly still.

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Fillmore

[Corpo]

I recently checked out this club called Duo. Beautiful Russian girls but no response whatsoever. Does anyone have any experience in this place?

Maybe advice on approach.

[Luke45]

Luke,

Ask not. Read or read not. There is no ask.

Answers you seek can be found in the Forum, and always pass on what you have learned.

Did read some, and kept the pages about massage on my comp, but the page numbers are different now.

Wouldn't it be easier to have different sections? New pages are added always and hard to keep on track or am I too stupid to use the search option well.

How about having diffent threads for massage / sauna, Ktvs, escorts, nightclubs and etc

Anyway, if I have any fun, ill make a report.

Thanks

[Thomas Jefferson]

Hi bachhus9,

I wanted to contact you but you don't have pm available.

I will be in Guangzhou around 17/18 November and like to visit a KTV, but alone it is not too good, maybe you might have time to introduce a nice KTV and we could have some drinks / fun there.

Sorry it is not allowed here to give you my email address, maybe we could contact anyway.

Thanks,

Tijuana

That is a lot of great and nuanced discussion of the way things work in general and especially in Guangzhou.

There seem to be a lot of KTVs in Tianhe and just watching what goes in and out I get the impression a good portion of them are places Chinese friends and families go without the interests of sittings girls. I could be all wrong. Could also be influenced by the impression I've gotten from going with Chinese friends who just had singing and drinking in mind. There are no guidebooks and the discussions in this thread don't throw much light. I'm trying to read some threads in Chinese like gzsanga but it's slow going there and I'm not sure there's much useful information available there either.

So probably best to continue learning the hard way and see where it leads. Tonight I took another look at the newest one I know of located on Tianhe bei Lu next door (to the left. 4th floor, Thunder) to Hooley's, the Irish Pub. I stumbled into it about a month ago and an English speaker gave me a quick tour. It's luxe looking with designer interior rooms. Tonight not one english speaker out of about a dozen staff, until they brought out a girl from Uzbekistan who spoke just enough to get room rates of 840 to 1280 and up. Sitting girls 500. No way to ask if it went 5/15/20 or not. No mention of tips or drinks minimums. The girls I've seen going in or coming out have been a seriously hot step above what I've seen anywhere else. The Uzbek girl took my phone number and said she would call me. Will see if that happens and what she has in mind. I didn't get the impression she would be calling about the KTV.

Likewise I don't go up the price ladder for the tall, model girls and I'm all ready out of what I like to pay at 3/10/13. 5/15/20 is beyond the pale.

If you've got 2 out of 3 giving BBBJ and 1 in motivational counseling for BJ's I have to salute you. This is a real hit or miss topic and when first in Guangzhou I was beginning to think it wasn't happening at all, but I now know it really depends on the girl. BBBJ and kissing, I've had girls tell me the broad statement that Chinese girls don't like to do. Fortunately not true but many who won't. My favorite refusal line is "kiss on parent's cheek okay".

Thanks the sage advice and insights. You've got a good system and sounds like once in place works and it's smooth sailing.

Bacchus9.

[ShangHangin]

Hi,

I will go to Guangzhou in November. But I do not have so much time to spend around. The best thing seems for me to enjoy the night in my hotel room. Has anyone tried any escort services in Guangzhou. I searched a little but most seems fake. I do not want to be disappoined. Waiting for your advice.

And thanks in advance.

Moby,

As GaoXing advised Luke below, ask not. But read! Or as has been said "it is better to give than receive".

Invest a bit of time like SilverSurfie, who read all 2011 to get the lay of the land. Then explore, try new things, occasionally take one for the team, and report back. Then you can ask.

SH

PS: Most outcall is a bad investment, stay away from it.