South China - Guangzhou

[Mua Tur]

Will be happy to see some info about actions at Tianhe District.

Anybody there please?

[Member #4144]

Let me make sure I got this right from reading a gazillion posts. Since I am staying at the Garden hotel, my best options for a sauna are the following:

1. Ocean Hotel. Its full service. Go to the 5th floor.

2. Jindu Hotel. Close to the Garden Hotel.

3. Baiyun Hotel. Go to 3rd floor sauna.

If I am willing to venture out a little, these are some other options.

1. Guangzhou International Hotel or Grand International hotel (Which one?) has a spa in the Tianhe area. 10 min cab ride.

2. Wa King Sauna in the Tianhe area.

3. Deyi Sauna Health Spa or Health Club. This is in the Yuexiu area. How far is this by cab to from the Garden Hotel.

4. Zhongyuan Hotel in the Foshan City area. Or the Centenio Hotel in this area. Also have no idea how far this is from the garden hotel.

SHOULD I JUST STICK WITH THE FIRST 3 OPTIONS AT THE TOP? Did I cover everything I've read? Are there any updates I should know about.

I would say just stick to the Garden Hotel area, as those top 3 are all walking distance. Another option that you miss is San Mao hotel. It is closest, as it is really the next building to Garden, or one next to it. You can google San Mao Guangzhou to find this hotel. It is 3 min walk. Once you get into the hotel, you should be able to find their sauna, or just follow some other guys are many foreigners go there. I know, people don't post.

Very important tip about going to a sauna, always bring some cash, like 500, maybe put inside a cigarette carton, or wrapped to your cellphone whatever. The reason is that when you are in the room, all your stuff had been locked out, so in order to ask the girl to do more, you need to pay her cash directly. And also, always ask to go to a back room, so you and your girl can do more.

Fillmore

[Doley91]

Let me make sure I got this right from reading a gazillion posts. Since I am staying at the Garden hotel, my best options for a sauna are the following:

1. Ocean Hotel. Its full service. Go to the 5th floor.

2. Jindu Hotel. Close to the Garden Hotel.

3. Baiyun Hotel. Go to 3rd floor sauna.

If I am willing to venture out a little, these are some other options.

1. Guangzhou International Hotel or Grand International hotel (Which one?) has a spa in the Tianhe area. 10 min cab ride.

2. Wa King Sauna in the Tianhe area.

3. Deyi Sauna Health Spa or Health Club. This is in the Yuexiu area. How far is this by cab to from the Garden Hotel.

4. Zhongyuan Hotel in the Foshan City area. Or the Centenio Hotel in this area. Also have no idea how far this is from the garden hotel.

SHOULD I JUST STICK WITH THE FIRST 3 OPTIONS AT THE TOP? Did I cover everything I've read? Are there any updates I should know about.

[Azncat]

I think Paddy Field on Thursday is good, as that is their latin night so the place would be packed. Hooleys is small, so maybe not likely. Bound should be good any day of the week, same with Nova Club. Cave Bar definitely not, as all the seats already taken by WGs. Gypsy King may work on Fridays, but other days would find only WGs.

Fillmore

Much thanks.

[RamiCR7]

I think Paddy Field on Thursday is good, as that is their latin night so the place would be packed. Hooleys is small, so maybe not likely. Bound should be good any day of the week, same with Nova Club. Cave Bar definitely not, as all the seats already taken by WGs. Gypsy King may work on Fridays, but other days would find only WGs.

Fillmore

Hi,

I will be in Guangzhou in a few days, on July 3rd.

I made reservation at ocean hotel, I will try it if it is GF or not, it is like scratch and win I guess.

If anyone knows if it is or not please tell me.

I know that victory hotel is really GF but it is far for me.

So please if someone tried ocean hotel just tell me please.

Thanks

[Member #4144]

I will be in Guangzhou from July 4th to July 8th, and I'm probably going to book a room at one of those three places. Your insight and your posts are much appreciated.

I'm planning on locking in some freebies. I'm going to check out New Era for sure, but I'm wondering if there are any particularly good clubs / bars to pick up freebies at. From what I've read, Paddy Field, Hooleys, Bound, Baby Face, Nova Club, Gypsy King, and Cave Bar are decent places to get WGs, but I don't have much information about their freebie scenes.

I think Paddy Field on Thursday is good, as that is their latin night so the place would be packed. Hooleys is small, so maybe not likely. Bound should be good any day of the week, same with Nova Club. Cave Bar definitely not, as all the seats already taken by WGs. Gypsy King may work on Fridays, but other days would find only WGs.

Fillmore

[Azncat]

A. President Hotel, this one is in the bustling electronics market area (Gangding). That place is usually extremely crowded during the day and difficult to get a taxi and not so clean but the hotel is right next to subway stop, cost about 350 a night. You can bring back girls and no questions asked.

B. China Mayor Paza Hotel, this hotel is closed to the Westin and right next to the landmark Citic Tower, so its location is very good. It is also next to subway stop and getting a taxi is also easier. You can easily get to Garden Hotel area in less then 10 min from here as it sits right on the main boulevard that connects the two areas. This area is white collar and very clean. Room cost is about 650 a night. I had brought girls in recently, but registration was required, so more strict then President Hotel, so just make sure the girl has her I'd card with her and most WGs in bars do.

3. The 3rd area for business is the old city center. It is more congested due to older and narrower streets. I had recommended Hotel Canton (374 Beijing Road) before and others had confirmed it is GF. Room rate is about 400.

Fillmore

I will be in Guangzhou from July 4th to July 8th, and I'm probably going to book a room at one of those three places. Your insight and your posts are much appreciated.

I've read back around 40 pages or so (yes, I believe in "doing research") , and I've got a lot of ideas / places I want to check out, but I'm looking for advice on what to do from the more experienced mongerers. It would also be very nice if anyone could provide updates / clarifications / affirmations on any of the places that I'm going to list below. Even though I tried to only list places mentioned in relatively recent posts, I'm sure that a lot of these places have already changed.

- I'm planning on locking in some freebies. I'm going to check out New Era for sure, but I'm wondering if there are any particularly good clubs / bars to pick up freebies at. From what I've read, Paddy Field, Hooleys, Bound, Baby Face, Nova Club, Gypsy King, and Cave Bar are decent places to get WGs, but I don't have much information about their freebie scenes.

- Tianyi Health Center.

- Deyi Sauna.

- Ming Hong Hotel Xichun.

- Teem Ease Hotel Spa.

- Yong Long Sauna, basement of Guangdong Victory Hotel.

- Zhong Fa Hotel.

- Gao Qu Relaxation Centre, south building of New Century Hotel.

- Changping (will contact BSD if I do go there)

Of course, it's unlikely that I'll be checking out all of these places. But I'd like to plan out my nights / afternoons ahead of time so that I don't waste as much time as I did here in Beijing.

Also, can anyone provide information as to reputable condom vendors in Guangzhou? Are the local pharmacies and drug stores reliable? I'd prefer western brands.

I will also be heading to Hong Kong, Macau, Shenzhen, and Taipei later in July / early August so if anyone wants to meet up / give additional advice, I'm very interested. I'm not a subscriber, so email or instant messaging will have to do.

I've compiled a list of promising BBSs, MPs, and saunas that Guangzhou has to offer that were mentioned in the past 40 pages or so. A lot of the information is outdated (of course) , but I could post it if someone would like to see it.

[EyeWant2]

I will be visiting Guangzhou in late July. It has been recommended that I stay at the White Swan Hotel. Can any of my fellow Mongers provide me insight to the White Swans quality, location and other useful info. Thanks!

[Ianwyu]

I will need to pick your brain about HK sometime, Desertman, but here is my thoughts on hotels in Guangzhou.

1. Garden Hotels location is best for business, no question. That area is best for fun and mongering, but maybe because of that very reason, the hotels in that area are not GF. You can go out and have fun but just don't bring that back to the hotel. All the WGs can take you to their apt, or some budget hourly hotel, but we don't want that right? We want to take our time and we want the security of our nice hotel rooms, but sorry, not in the best area of Guangzhou.

2. Tianhe area is the next best for business and most hotels there are GF, not everyone, but mostly are. I had already mentioned the Westin, which is 1700 and up. In general, not much night life in Tianhe area, there are a few bars, like the QBar inside Westin, but overall, you won't spend your night time there for fun, that is for sure, but Garden Hotel area is just 10 min taxi ride and another night life area is along the river and that is about 15min away, so it is fine to stay in Tianhe. Aside from the more expensive hotels, I know of at least two 3* that are GF:

A. President Hotel, this one is in the bustling electronics market area (Gangding). That place is usually extremely crowded during the day and difficult to get a taxi and not so clean but the hotel is right next to subway stop, cost about 350 a night. You can bring back girls and no questions asked.

B. China Mayor Paza Hotel, this hotel is closed to the Westin and right next to the landmark Citic Tower, so its location is very good. It is also next to subway stop and getting a taxi is also easier. You can easily get to Garden Hotel area in less then 10 min from here as it sits right on the main boulevard that connects the two areas. This area is white collar and very clean. Room cost is about 650 a night. I had brought girls in recently, but registration was required, so more strict then President Hotel, so just make sure the girl has her I'd card with her and most WGs in bars do.

3. The 3rd area for business is the old city center. It is more congested due to older and narrower streets. I had recommended Hotel Canton (374 Beijing Road) before and others had confirmed it is GF. Room rate is about 400.

Fillmore

You should try the ritz carlton and grand hyatt in the zhujiang new town area which is very close to the tianhe district. BTW, you can always book westin for around 1200, and it shall not not go up to 1700 per night. That's too expensive. And there's another choice. Jianguo hotel where is right next to the east railway station. Very nice and reasonably price and most important gf.

[Member #4144]

Thanks Fillmore St,

I will be seeing several potential suppliers in the Guangzhou are so need to be fairly central I would expect. If you have any recomendations of a good area to hang with a bar or two close by and any GF 3 star I would be most grateful to you.

A pleaseant lively area is often a good place to stay and if you have a certain mongering sense as I do things often work out.

I'll checlk the web for 3* and 1500 plus range at both ends.

Also any others on post yr input is welcome. I will request some suppliers to bring brochures etc to me at the hotel, and others to pick me up to see their factory.

Basically have three meeting days full but want to chill and play in the evenings.

Much appreciated as I don't know the area.

I can return the favour though for Thailand, Hong Kong, Dubai, Bahrain.

Many thanks

I will need to pick your brain about HK sometime, Desertman, but here is my thoughts on hotels in Guangzhou.

1. Garden Hotels location is best for business, no question. That area is best for fun and mongering, but maybe because of that very reason, the hotels in that area are not GF. You can go out and have fun but just don't bring that back to the hotel. All the WGs can take you to their apt, or some budget hourly hotel, but we don't want that right? We want to take our time and we want the security of our nice hotel rooms, but sorry, not in the best area of Guangzhou.

2. Tianhe area is the next best for business and most hotels there are GF, not everyone, but mostly are. I had already mentioned the Westin, which is 1700 and up. In general, not much night life in Tianhe area, there are a few bars, like the QBar inside Westin, but overall, you won't spend your night time there for fun, that is for sure, but Garden Hotel area is just 10 min taxi ride and another night life area is along the river and that is about 15min away, so it is fine to stay in Tianhe. Aside from the more expensive hotels, I know of at least two 3* that are GF:

A. President Hotel, this one is in the bustling electronics market area (Gangding). That place is usually extremely crowded during the day and difficult to get a taxi and not so clean but the hotel is right next to subway stop, cost about 350 a night. You can bring back girls and no questions asked.

B. China Mayor Paza Hotel, this hotel is closed to the Westin and right next to the landmark Citic Tower, so its location is very good. It is also next to subway stop and getting a taxi is also easier. You can easily get to Garden Hotel area in less then 10 min from here as it sits right on the main boulevard that connects the two areas. This area is white collar and very clean. Room cost is about 650 a night. I had brought girls in recently, but registration was required, so more strict then President Hotel, so just make sure the girl has her I'd card with her and most WGs in bars do.

3. The 3rd area for business is the old city center. It is more congested due to older and narrower streets. I had recommended Hotel Canton (374 Beijing Road) before and others had confirmed it is GF. Room rate is about 400.

Fillmore

[Desertman]

Thanks Fillmore St,

I will be seeing several potential suppliers in the Guangzhou are so need to be fairly central I would expect. If you have any recomendations of a good area to hang with a bar or two close by and any GF 3 star I would be most grateful to you.

A pleaseant lively area is often a good place to stay and if you have a certain mongering sense as I do things often work out.

I'll checlk the web for 3* and 1500 plus range at both ends.

Also any others on post yr input is welcome. I will request some suppliers to bring brochures etc to me at the hotel, and others to pick me up to see their factory.

Basically have three meeting days full but want to chill and play in the evenings.

Much appreciated as I don't know the area.

I can return the favour though for Thailand, Hong Kong, Dubai, Bahrain.

Many thanks

[Member #4144]

Hi All,

And I have read the forum for at least the last six pages, but would really appreciate some quick info.

I've read here that the Guangdong Victory Hotel is GF? Can anyone confirm?

Also, the only mention of bars is The Cave with not good quality. Any info about any others around the Victory hotel would be much appreciated.

Heading down for the first week of July.

That hotel is in Shamian, so depends on where your day work is, it might be way out, so check where you need to be during the day first. Most 3 or lower stars hotels are GF, just those 4 stars are often not, all higher end. 5-6 stars, if not in Huangshidong area, should be GF, so basically, find a hotel that has a room rate above 1500, then it is a pretty sure bet it will be GF, as I have talked to many WG about this and that was what their experience were.

Fillmore

[Member #4144]

I want to stay in a GF hotel in guangzhou when I am there in 2 weeks. I am currently booked in the Garden Hotel because my vendor suggested I stay there. I can easily change hotels but I won't stay in a dump. I am used to 5 star accomodations. Any suggestions where I can stay that is nice that will allow me to bring a WG back to my room?

By the way, I would prefer not to stay in Tianhe area. Seems like the Huanshi Dong Lu area is easier to find women, MP, etc.

HELP ME WITH INFO PLEASE.

I think you will have a harder time finding high end GF hotels in HuanshiDong area, while all the 5 stars in TienHe will be GF.

It is only 10 min taxi ride and I am sure the gilrs will be fine with that. I suggest the Westin as they have a bar (qBar) that always has some WG there, even though might be lower quality, but they are right there so just in case you do not find a good one in other parts of the city, you can always have your last resort right downstairs.

Fillmore

[Zapzap2011]

So many boring questions on this thread, discussions on taking the metro, RTFF questions, and invitations to go to CP where things are so much better. Well, there are places to go in Guangzhou (though I certainly won't argue the worth of Guangzhou over CP as a mongering destination) , if you just look. I had the occasion to head out of HK for a few days up to Guangzhou and found a decent full service sauna near the Dongfang Hotel / Marriott Hotel. The Google maps link is: tiny url dot com / 6h4karw.

The details:

After finishing running some errands as a favour for my friend, I had some time off and decided to try a sauna that was reviewed on this forum. From Dongfang Hotel, turn left on Liuhua Road. At the first intersection, turn left at North Renmin Road. The first small intersection is Panfu Dajie. Turn left here, and the Deyi Sangna Health Club is only about 50 meters down the street on the left.

Walk in, go down a couple steps to the counter. There are a few different kinds of massage, but mongers will want the "Thai Massage" for 368 RMB. I asked about the other kinds, which were regular massage and Chinese massage. I was told that the Thai Massage (listed as 90 minutes) would offer the "best service". I know what that means, and I took it.

I was lead off into the men's locker room. Regulars know the deal. You put on a bracelet with your number. The locker room attendants help you change out of your clothes, put everything away, and then hit the lockers. There is an extra 10 RMB fee here for the clothes you wear for the Thai Massage. This extra charge doesn't apply for the other massages. Oy, what's a Pound here or there?

After the shower, putting on my fancy new 10 RMB clothes, I was led off to the rest area. As I was there in the late afternoon, there was not too much activity. The bartender gave me a Coke, and I asked to get the massage quickly since my time was limited. After a while, a youngish "mamasan" asked me to go upstairs and led me down a dark series of corridors to a massage room.

Eventually the massage girl entered. They keep the rooms fairly dark, so it's difficult to see too much. The girl I had is local (as she had a thick Cantonese accent when speaking Mandarin. English was very limited.) Facilities seemed reasonably clean, but old. Not terrible, not great, but in the middle of the scale. The "massage" started with me faced down. Not great, but decent, and a lot of attention paid to the posterior.

Keep in mind, I thought this place was just a HJ-type place. My masseuse, #22, claimed to be new to this establishment. I believe she was new to this sauna, but not new to the sauna business. Difficult to see exactly, but probably in the mid- to late-20s. Nice personality, and we chatted a while during the massage. It's always better to develop some relationship with the masseuse. In this case helpful to know some Chinese. (Though Cantonese would have been better!)

After about 20 minutes, she ducked out for a bit to get a "glass of water". This turned out to be the requisite equipment for fire and ice. She did some of the water-gurgling-on-the-back routine, and then asked me to turn over. (I much obliged.) Off come the shorts, and then starts the BBBJ with fire and ice. Quite good. During this time, she grabbed my hand to put on her tits and asked me to feel her up. No problem.

Some more of this, and then out comes the 'dom, and she asked whether she or I should be on top. I'm a lazy guy, and asked her to be on top. (And at this time, very pleasantly surprised it's not just a HJ establishment!) What followed was one of the more passionate experiences I've ever had in a sauna. Maybe she's new to this place, but I felt that Miss #22 was enthusiastic, and seemed into it. First, she was on top, and I sucked on her nipples for a while (which she seemed to like). Eventually we switched, with her on the bottom. A lot of sauna girls give you a feeling of a definite routine, but not here. She seemed more open and flexible. No kissing (though I didn't try.) No DATY (again, didn't try) , but overall, I felt it was one of the better sauna experiences I've had. Be advised, this may be due to the fact I was only expecting an HJ and got much more.

I would definitely go back and ask for #22. No, she's not the youngest or prettiest. But overall an excellent provider. She asked me to call her next time I'm in Guangzhou. (So here's hoping my friend needs another favour done soon!)

After the deed, we chatted for a bit. I needed to catch a train back to HK, so I didn't stay the full 90 minutes. I didn't get the feeling there would be an opportunity for a second pop even if I didn't have to get back home. I just headed back down to the showers, washed off, changed back up, gave the locker attendants a tip (they seemed like decent guys, and weren't pushy, so I gave them 50 RMB) , and then out the door. This place makes you pre-pay for the massage, so nothing to do when I left. Just back out on the street, squinting in the sun, looking for a taxi to get back to Guangzhou East Station.

Hope this is helpful, and have fun in Guangzhou.

Thanks Gao Xing for this info, I went there today first time in a Chinese sauna very good experience.

After paying 368 and 10 for the sauna clothes mamassam took me to the dark rooms and send a cute girl around 20-25. Very pleasen massage, I felt so good after working for many days here in China, then she went out for the glass of water and starteed sucking all parts of my body before BJ and then the important part, first she on the top, she got excited because very noisy, betwen changing pose I touche her all over her body and I noted she got very wet, then I was on the top raise her legs, she started screaming more and more and finish. Then I took a shower and give 40 rmb tip to the guys outside. She did her best to speak to me in english cause I don't speak Chinese at all, so this add more points to this place, you don't need to speak Chinese to have a good experience in thsi place. I didn't notice which number was her, but I will try to go again before I leave.

Any sugestion for FS only near this place? Fow a quick visit.

And thanks again info, really a good place, worth every rmb I spent there.

[Zapzap2011]

So many boring questions on this thread, discussions on taking the metro, RTFF questions, and invitations to go to CP where things are so much better. Well, there are places to go in Guangzhou (though I certainly won't argue the worth of Guangzhou over CP as a mongering destination) , if you just look. I had the occasion to head out of HK for a few days up to Guangzhou and found a decent full service sauna near the Dongfang Hotel / Marriott Hotel. The Google maps link is: tiny url dot com / 6h4karw.

The details:

After finishing running some errands as a favour for my friend, I had some time off and decided to try a sauna that was reviewed on this forum. From Dongfang Hotel, turn left on Liuhua Road. At the first intersection, turn left at North Renmin Road. The first small intersection is Panfu Dajie. Turn left here, and the Deyi Sangna Health Club is only about 50 meters down the street on the left.

Walk in, go down a couple steps to the counter. There are a few different kinds of massage, but mongers will want the "Thai Massage" for 368 RMB. I asked about the other kinds, which were regular massage and Chinese massage. I was told that the Thai Massage (listed as 90 minutes) would offer the "best service". I know what that means, and I took it.

I was lead off into the men's locker room. Regulars know the deal. You put on a bracelet with your number. The locker room attendants help you change out of your clothes, put everything away, and then hit the lockers. There is an extra 10 RMB fee here for the clothes you wear for the Thai Massage. This extra charge doesn't apply for the other massages. Oy, what's a Pound here or there?

After the shower, putting on my fancy new 10 RMB clothes, I was led off to the rest area. As I was there in the late afternoon, there was not too much activity. The bartender gave me a Coke, and I asked to get the massage quickly since my time was limited. After a while, a youngish "mamasan" asked me to go upstairs and led me down a dark series of corridors to a massage room.

Eventually the massage girl entered. They keep the rooms fairly dark, so it's difficult to see too much. The girl I had is local (as she had a thick Cantonese accent when speaking Mandarin. English was very limited.) Facilities seemed reasonably clean, but old. Not terrible, not great, but in the middle of the scale. The "massage" started with me faced down. Not great, but decent, and a lot of attention paid to the posterior.

Keep in mind, I thought this place was just a HJ-type place. My masseuse, #22, claimed to be new to this establishment. I believe she was new to this sauna, but not new to the sauna business. Difficult to see exactly, but probably in the mid- to late-20s. Nice personality, and we chatted a while during the massage. It's always better to develop some relationship with the masseuse. In this case helpful to know some Chinese. (Though Cantonese would have been better!)

After about 20 minutes, she ducked out for a bit to get a "glass of water". This turned out to be the requisite equipment for fire and ice. She did some of the water-gurgling-on-the-back routine, and then asked me to turn over. (I much obliged.) Off come the shorts, and then starts the BBBJ with fire and ice. Quite good. During this time, she grabbed my hand to put on her tits and asked me to feel her up. No problem.

Some more of this, and then out comes the 'dom, and she asked whether she or I should be on top. I'm a lazy guy, and asked her to be on top. (And at this time, very pleasantly surprised it's not just a HJ establishment!) What followed was one of the more passionate experiences I've ever had in a sauna. Maybe she's new to this place, but I felt that Miss #22 was enthusiastic, and seemed into it. First, she was on top, and I sucked on her nipples for a while (which she seemed to like). Eventually we switched, with her on the bottom. A lot of sauna girls give you a feeling of a definite routine, but not here. She seemed more open and flexible. No kissing (though I didn't try.) No DATY (again, didn't try) , but overall, I felt it was one of the better sauna experiences I've had. Be advised, this may be due to the fact I was only expecting an HJ and got much more.

I would definitely go back and ask for #22. No, she's not the youngest or prettiest. But overall an excellent provider. She asked me to call her next time I'm in Guangzhou. (So here's hoping my friend needs another favour done soon!)

After the deed, we chatted for a bit. I needed to catch a train back to HK, so I didn't stay the full 90 minutes. I didn't get the feeling there would be an opportunity for a second pop even if I didn't have to get back home. I just headed back down to the showers, washed off, changed back up, gave the locker attendants a tip (thtey seemed like decent guys, and weren't pushy, so I gave them 50 RMB) , and then out the door. This place makes you pre-pay for the massage, so nothing to do when I left. Just back out on the street, squinting in the sun, looking for a taxi to get back to Guangzhou East Station.

Hope this is helpful, and have fun in Guangzhou.

Thanks Gao Xing for this info, I went there today first time in a Chinese sauna very good experience.

After paying 368 and 10 for the sauna clothes mamassam took me to the dark rooms and send a cute girl around 20-25. Very pleasen massage, I felt so good after working for many days here in China, then she went out for the glass of water and starteed sucking all parts of my body before BJ and then the important part, first she on the top, she got excited because very noisy, betwen changing pose I touche her all over her body and I noted she got very wet, then I was on the top raise her legs, she started screaming more and more and finish. Then I took a shower and give 40 rmb tip to the guys outside. She did her best to speak to me in english cause I don't speak Chinese at all, so this add more points to this place, you don't need to speak Chinese to have a good experience in thsi place. I didn't notice which number was her, but I will try to go again before I leave.

Any sugestion for FS only near this place? Fow a quick visit.

And thanks again info, really a good place, worth every rmb I spent there.