East China - Shanghai

[FLT09]

Hey all, trying to gather a little info. Has anyone heard of or tried Lily Escort service? They have a WeChat and list escorts in multiple cities. Seems a bit odd. Live in an outside area so hard to find options that's why I am asking about this one.

Thanks.

[ThomKatt]

Yeah, I totally agree that tipping ruins the experience. It's why I rarely go to any MP in the States. Those old hags have too much power. I used to love the MPs in Shanghai when I wasn't feeling like FS. It was at a very reasonable price and I got to fool around with an gorgeous naked Chinese girl for an hour. Reminds of me when kiss bangs were better in Korea too. This recent change really ruins the experience.

What recent changes to kiss bangs in Korea?

[Token1]

At Midwestern, I used to go to AMPS in SF but the quality of girls has dipped drastically after they closed down the most popular spots. There used to be hot Korean girls working them. Now you end up seeing mostly viet and Chinese ladies in their 40-60's offering HJ and FS. It's a depressing scene for an absurd price. The bright light in the Bay Area are Korean apartment girls. Many of which are early 20's and offer pretty much everything for $220/ HR. Some research and planning required.

Now back to Shanghai, I'm leaving soon so no time to build rapport with any of these girls. I remember my best MP experience was 3 years ago at the Spring massage by Jianshan road station. Asked mamasan for a young girl and she gave me this 19 year old with big beautiful naturals and round butt. Her body was incredible and face was round and cute. A short rub and she got naked and just let me fool around with her for an hour. BBBJ, FIV, P2P were all allowed. She had a great an attitude too and wouldn't even take a tip when I offered it. Now, no in room showed and all the doors have windows.

I love Chinese girls, they all seem very down to earth and fun, I guess next trip will be Hong Kong and Macau again to get real action. Their bushy vaginas are growing on me too.

[Midwestern]

At NoWankers, yeah, I also didn't meet Kim for a long time because her pics didn't do it for me, but eventually I was in the mood for someone new one day and met Kim, and was pleasantly surprised. I like that she doesn't wear makeup and she just seems like the pretty girl next door type. And yeah, I get your math. I do the same.

At Token, I also like Linda. Solid experience. As for MPs, if you repeat with the girl, the experience is usually much better. I think they also hate haggling over tip, and so the next time they assume same tip and will relax and be naughty from the very start. A recent example is a gal that gave me a regular massage, and then we haggled a lot over tip and eventually ended up at 400. She gave me a decent HJ. I got her WeChat. The next time I saw her, she wasn't wearing leggings under her skirt, wore very lose panties, and no bra. From the very beginning, it was naughty and we were all over each other with unlimited access. She even tried making out with me, but I wasnt in the mood. All for the same tip. And now she texts me regularly to come back. An older example was a gal at the Jiangning location. After a few visits to her, eventually she just showed up to our appointments with a candle and turned off all lights and we would just fool around for an hour, both of us completely naked, for the entire hour. For 300 tip. She even often gave me food that she made, LOL. Btw, where do you go to MPs in the states? Some of the hottest Chinese girls Ive ever met were in MPs in the states. I met several that were college students. Reminds me of a gal that was attending UCSB. She told me her major and I quizzed her to see if she was telling the truth, and she was telling the truth. Anyway, wow, her amazing looks and body, all available for FS for $120 tip. I miss that MP. Always had lots of new young gals. But I admit these great MPs were in CA, NV, FL. The ones in the Northeast and Midwest were horrid. For example, MPs in places like Kansas and neighboring states were disgusting. Finally, yes, if the price is right, I too would go to MPs all the time. I miss the BBBJ CIM places that was 268 RMB total with no tip, like the one on 78 Changshou. For a while, I went almost every day at my lunch hour. I would ask myself: should I get BJ for 40 bucks? And why would I tell myself no? Lol.

[No Wankers]

Spent a couple of hours with Kim from NLO last week. There's a lot of hype about her from others and I'm happy to report she lived up to it and beyond. I wasn't originally overly inspired by her photos, but the reviews convinced me. Good thing too, because she's far better looking in person.

She gives well, receives well and will serve according to your desires. Nice DT, although admittedly the "the" descriptor is a stretch in my case given that I'm not as big and hard as I used to be. Still, it's nice to go balls deep, if you're into that sort of thing. Add to that a PSE finish or two, and you get an A+ grade from me.

I know it's more expensive to book well-reviewed girls compared to perusing bars, however I believe it's the only way to go. Here's how I do the math. The 400 US spent with Kim was more than worth the original experience, but between now and the next time I'm in Asia, I will have banged Kim an additional 8 to 10 times, and probably another 8 to 10 times thereafter at various points. I know dropping a load in the shower isn't the same as directly on her face, but my imagination is pretty good and it will serve me well.

[Token1]

Yeah, I totally agree that tipping ruins the experience. It's why I rarely go to any MP in the States. Those old hags have too much power. I used to love the MPs in Shanghai when I wasn't feeling like FS. It was at a very reasonable price and I got to fool around with an gorgeous naked Chinese girl for an hour. Reminds of me when kiss bangs were better in Korea too. This recent change really ruins the experience.

Anyhow, after reading endless pages of reports here, decided to scout Madang Metro area myself. Spotted the MP mentioned immediately. I also saw Bamboo7 which I'm curious if similar services are offered. Anyways, walked in and was showed upstairs and offered the $495 (something like that) option and took it. The guy shows me to a backroom with plenty of privacy and a shower adjacent to the room. I asked for someone young and he gave me a nod and a smirk. In walks a very pretty girl. I asked to shower while she got the room ready. After returning, she gave me a solid oil back rub with great pressure in the right areas. We chatted and this went on about 20 minuted before she moved towards the lower back / ass area. She pulled the generic blue shorts down and started playing my ads, taint and little brother. This is when she offered the services provided. ¥300 for HJ with over the clothes touching but can't grab her ass. ¥600 to take some of her clothes off and more access. BJ, FS and DATY are not allowed. I was very reluctant at first but eventually caved to the 600 offer because I couldn't resister her sexy curvy body. She had a beautiful set of tits that looks and feels very natural at first but can detect the implants upon close inspection. Her ass and legs are perfection. A little thicc for a Chinese girl which I love. I appreciated that she didn't rush to get me finish, she turned off the lights and let me roam and play with her body for a solid 20 minutes. She even played along and acted very innocent and horny like she wanted more. Whenever I tried to get more, she was quick to stop me. It was still very enjoyable. Eventually she got me to finish in her hands while I sucked on her soft tits. A quick shower, I tipped her and she walked me down to the front desk where I paid and left.

Overall, I still had a decent time despite her many restrictions. She tried to act like anyone could walk in at any moment and see us through the small window on the door but I think there is enough people keeping that area secure from wondering eyes for her to get close to completely nude and lying on the table with me. I liked her great acting job throughout, I found it very entertaining. The issue here is that ¥1100 is a steep price for a glorified HJ with a cute girl when NLO offers FS for 1200 and saunas were less than 1000 when I first visited shanghai 5 years ago. I suppose those fish tank, deep rimming, fire / ice, red rope, toe fucking days are over. If this MP experience was still in the 400-500 range, I'd go every day! Hopefully shanghai returns to form the next time I visit.

[Midwestern]

Depends how attractive they are LOL. I don't understand why tipping suddenly became a thing when it used to be included in the price 2-3 years ago. I remember trying to tip back then and being refused. How did service drop and price go up?

Negotiating the tip is one of the main reasons why I often don't bother going to MPs. It has gotten out of control. If you're a foreigner, then it seems like the negotiations always start at 500 for HJ with some roaming. But if you get their WeChat and repeat with same gal later, then the service gets better and you can also negotiate a discount.

[Token1]

I went to the MP on Madang road during golden week and during the CIIE, both times I got the 496 RMB massage which is basically teasing and HJ. First time I didn't know how much to tip, so I paid 500. Second time I negotiated 200 tip.

Not sure if there's more on offer, but I'the suggest to try out if you're into that.

Depends how attractive they are LOL. I don't understand why tipping suddenly became a thing when it used to be included in the price 2-3 years ago. I remember trying to tip back then and being refused. How did service drop and price go up?

[PeterFox]

Contacted Linda last minute on wechat last night and got an in all appointment quickly. She was very quick to respond with easy to follow instructions. Linda looks almost exactly like her photos and she is shy at first but is very sweet once she warms up. Beautiful short spinner with soft natural TNA. Service provided is a bit vanilla compared to old saunas or the kdolls that I'm used to in the bay but Linda makes up for it in her genuine reactions. I had a great time with her. Her complex feels private and shower is connected to her room. I will try to repeat if there is time.

I was reading some old posts about MP in madang road. Can someone specify which one still offers he? Is there a yu or spring massage in that area worth trying? I'm having trouble searching what is being discussed. I used to frequent the spring massage locations before the crackdown, damn I miss those days.

I went to the MP on Madang road during golden week and during the CIIE, both times I got the 496 RMB massage which is basically teasing and HJ. First time I didn't know how much to tip, so I paid 500. Second time I negotiated 200 tip.

Not sure if there's more on offer, but I'the suggest to try out if you're into that.

[Token1]

Contacted Linda last minute on wechat last night and got an in all appointment quickly. She was very quick to respond with easy to follow instructions. Linda looks almost exactly like her photos and she is shy at first but is very sweet once she warms up. Beautiful short spinner with soft natural TNA. Service provided is a bit vanilla compared to old saunas or the kdolls that I'm used to in the bay but Linda makes up for it in her genuine reactions. I had a great time with her. Her complex feels private and shower is connected to her room. I will try to repeat if there is time.

I was reading some old posts about MP in madang road. Can someone specify which one still offers he? Is there a yu or spring massage in that area worth trying? I'm having trouble searching what is being discussed. I used to frequent the spring massage locations before the crackdown, damn I miss those days.

[Jude Bright]

I can only second what Changlelu is saying. Read some of his previous posts and you'll have a recipe of how to go about it. I would like to add though that some Mandarin skills are required. You guys in Shanghai think it's dry, but for us in Suzhou it's even worse. Punters from Suzhou are now travelling to Shanghai due to availability. Personally I haven't been able to identify any apartment girls in Suzhou, though they are rumoured to be around. The aishxx is also useful for those who want to try a sauna experience, however, I must say it appears quite expensive and more tedious compared to a few years back.

I was told that some of the SN have moved from SH to Suzhou from my old contacts. I have not tried yet, but thinking. That is not true? At least there are several in Huaqiao, outside of the suzhou, it is mocha cheaper than in SH.

[Steve 9696]

I can only second what Changlelu is saying. Read some of his previous posts and you'll have a recipe of how to go about it. I would like to add though that some Mandarin skills are required. You guys in Shanghai think it's dry, but for us in Suzhou it's even worse. Punters from Suzhou are now travelling to Shanghai due to availability. Personally I haven't been able to identify any apartment girls in Suzhou, though they are rumoured to be around. The aishxx is also useful for those who want to try a sauna experience, however, I must say it appears quite expensive and more tedious compared to a few years back.

When I was there in March my Judy's girl said Manhattan charged a fee but Judys did not and that is why she worked at Judy's. It also explains why Judy's always seemed slightly second tier to me (but still great.) I guess both charge now.

It is interesting to me that German FKK hits it on both ends. Entry fee and the girls pay. Anyhow. It's a changing! And that SUCKS!

[Jay Bird]

While it is very bad that the saunas are closed and the MPs offer only rushed and overpriced HJ service, the independent apartment girls are alive and well. FS "classes" can be had for 400, most "teachers" ask 500-600 for an hour of bliss. I know it seems cumbersome to explore the compounds, but as I previously wrote it is not that difficult for the intrepid and hungry punter. Go check the aishxx website (well reported here on ISG) and see the girls' profiles, everyday new girls go online. You can arrange everything with the help of Google translate or the Wechat translator function. If you are lucky you can have an almost similar dry sauna experience. When the circumstances change (LE crackdown) we need to adapt as well, so perhaps this is going to be the future of a gentrified Shanghai.

I can only second what Changlelu is saying. Read some of his previous posts and you'll have a recipe of how to go about it. I would like to add though that some Mandarin skills are required. You guys in Shanghai think it's dry, but for us in Suzhou it's even worse. Punters from Suzhou are now travelling to Shanghai due to availability. Personally I haven't been able to identify any apartment girls in Suzhou, though they are rumoured to be around. The aishxx is also useful for those who want to try a sauna experience, however, I must say it appears quite expensive and more tedious compared to a few years back.

[NightLife17]

Are these two bars banning Wg's outright (demand by police) or charging them a 5000 rmb bar fine? If she keeps an appartment that doubles the monthly expense.

During the expo, WG's were 'banned'; however the Expo is finished, so regular business will resume fairly soon. Regarding the 'entry fee'; this has been around for at least a year, as far as I know it. The fee ranges from 0 RMB all the way up to 10000 RMB. It depends on the bar (Judy's is cheaper), supply & demand (less girls means lower fee), and the girl herself. If Samcan's girl need to pay 5000 RMB, you could take that as a sign, that there are plenty of other girls that want to enter the bar. Means business is good; not bad.

[Beijing4987]

Are these two bars banning Wg's outright (demand by police) or charging them a 5000 rmb bar fine? If she keeps an appartment that doubles the monthly expense.