East China - Shanghai

[Jadoomazar]

Hello folks,

This is my first post on ISG. I am an occasional traveler to Shanghai and have been going to Manhattan and Judy's for the past few years with mixed experiences. I got a Viet last night from Manhattan and she asked me to make the payment first before we got down to business. I had already negotiated 1200 in the bar and after giving the payment in the hotel room she started rushing me. I knew this was going to be bad. I hate giving the payment first because then the girl gets in control and has no more interest in satisfying me. Last yr I met a hottie in Manhattan and she delivered well even after taking the payment first so therefore I have mixed experiences in Shanghai. I have traveled quite a bit and nowhere the girl asks payment first. I am trying to avoid this situation again tonight and next few days. What is your strategy to overcome this in Shanghai especially?

Thanks,

JM.

[SamCan]

BBB.

While I agree manhattans has the better girls usually, I have seen nights when I was surprised to see judys better stocked. Not often granted but I have seen it move both ways. to say ALWAYS. Is a statement I can't make in the 10 years I've been going because I am not ALWAYS there. One example was when manhattans reopened the girls had gotten comfortable at judys and moved back a little slower.



When I said JUDYs was new I meant the new location next to manhattans not the previous one on tongren lu

As far as CBJ? That's my preference not theirs. Never had a viet not offer a BBBJ. What you choose to do with your dick is your business. . I was referring to a question to me.

[FirstTimer001]

Yes, that's exactly what happens in India. You're completely Right, But let me get you on a secret (Which isn't a secret actually), we're a country with a population of excess of a billion people (FYI 1/6th of the world Population) where in 65% of US are in age group ranging from 16-40, we are chaotic. Some of them might be lazy. But we have the fastest and also the very most accurate (Reports / reviews) on any forms. 70% of posts are from people who have just joined ISG and have almost no idea where to start, In looking for help, Judgmental people such as yourself post insults and irrelevant judgments on them.

How about this (Just to satisfy your ego) if don't want to help, fine by me But don't comment about other forms and judge the people / post there until not knowing the scene. Of course you'll reply wittily with this post of mine, let me give a advise (Since you like post and reviews so much) Don't!

Thanking you,

With regards,

Firsttimer001.

P.S. As an Indian We are taught to apologies in advance for offending you in any way. Hope you have an amazing run mongering around the world.

P. P.S. Feel free to ask for contacts on the Indian forum, We might ask that often there but its quite reliable and surprisingly updated.

That's what they do in the Indian forums. Ever check those out? What a colossal chaotic zoo. Everyone just constantly begging each other for contacts. Ever notice all the many warnings the site administrators put in there? And then when those mongers go abroad, they do the same lazy shit. Maybe they are not used to seeing actual helpful reports.

[FirstTimer001]

The reason I haven't written a review of the last time I mongered in Shanghai was that I wasn't on ISG, Secondly I was hoping for a senior such as yourself have done no different than I have when I mongered at Manhattan. Thirdly about being lazy, I was looking for exclusivity which I thought you might help in provide but unfortunately failed to see my intent. Lastly I do share contacts and experience with my fellow brothers, what I don't do is broadcast to the masses and provide contacts to people who are here just to window shop. I believe in a fair barter (Which you may see as "The Point" on ISG) in my opinion Wrongly so.

Thank you for not being lazy enough to give a statement on my request.

So you've been to Shanghai twice, mongered but didn't feel like spending some of your time writting reviews.

Yet you'd like us whom already spent a lot of our time writting reports here to post again what we already posted because you're too lazy to go back a few pages?

No thanks.

God helps those who help themselves and others, ISG too.

[Bad Boy Billy]

I know some believe manhattans have the finer women. I've seen it ebb and flow over the years. Since judys is a new bar near Manhattan's it's Hard to tell which truly has the better quality if there's even a difference.

I tend to do better at judys for some reason. Maybe cause I start. At Manhattan's and end at judys. This time I should try in reverse.

Over the years Manhattan has ALWAYS held sway over Judys in pure beauty and age of the Viets. YES plenty times there are GEMS in Judys and I would say lately the top girls in Judys every bit as good as top girls in Manhattan. But the Manhattan crowd of Chinese guys are bigger spenders so the top tier girls get more $$$s in Manhattan. Do not discard either. Cruise both and you will find what you desire.

As for Judys being a new bar that is far from the case. Judys 1 on Maoming Lu predated the very first Manhattan. Then they both moved to central Tongren Lu side by side until that strip of shops was demolished and Manhattan moved to current location on Nanyang Lu whilst Judys moved to end of Tongren Lu where it operated for a couple of years then shifting to current location on Tongren Lu.

When they were side by side middle Tongren Lu Manhattan was 60-70% Filipinos and lesser crowd Viets where Judys was mostly Viets. When Judys shifted to end Tongren Lu there was always a great supply Africans. Even in current location they had good supply Africans until only last 12 mths or so and now they are banned. Had some of the best girls ever from both locations but alas that is a memory now.

Either Judys or Manhattan are still best bets in SH for 'grab'and'go' - Jan 8 I had just a stunner Viet from Judys for 1500 2 hrs 2 pops. Young and fresh and she had a distict Spanish look about her but she assured me whilst she hears that a lot both her parents Viets.

As for BBBJ I NEVER have and NEVER will pay a girl in China for CBJ - NEVER - BBBJ is standard fare or you walk away. The Colombians will ask for it - walk away - some of the Russians will ask for it - walk away - NEVER has a Viet or African asked for it - NEVER. Some of the Viets from both Judys and Manhattan are happy to go with BBFS - less than 20% I would say - CFS not a deal breaker for me - young and fresh BBFS a lovely bonus as as always Caveat Emptor - and clearly YMMV.

Whatever / whichever way you do it keep safe - never go with touts - never go to girls apartments - always be in control of your situation - and above all treat the girls well.

[SamCan]

Sam, great reporting, as usual. Love reading about your adventures. A question: Do you ever bareback any of them? If so, do you have a strategy of finding and identifying them, and a strategy to minimize risks? Lately, I've become bored of CFS, and started to bareback some of these gals, and surprisingly, many are okay with it and only just afraid of getting pregnant. But I fully admit I'm being really, really stupid. Thus why I ask my question. Anyone else can jump in with their thoughts.

I can guarantee I don't even get BBBJ and get offered that regularly. . Other than the teabagging and AR I don't go for uncovered anything. For me Risks Are way too high both physically and personally. Mine is not to judge. I have had a few guys privately tell me they asked the girls at judys and get some to sign up. Usually the less beautiful ones trying to compete with the high end. So go to judys and start asking.

My fave Sun seemed to playfully hint at it but I never took her up on it. Before I get new guys ask for digits. Sun has not responded to me in weeks

[SamCan]

Loving the updates. May have to try that bar across from Judy's just for fun. I am avowed Manhattan fan however. Do I plan to go there? I'the love to get the lowdown on pricing since I will be there soon.

The bar was a good place to have two girls rub my groin while I reached. Down their low cut shirts and held 2 girls titties. All for the price of my beer and their drinks (300 rmb).

As long as your strong enough to walk out when the beer is gone, it's a fun place. Neither girl next to me made me want to skip a girl in Manhattan's.

[SamCan]

Sams report is startling to rev my engine for my next trip in April. To bad I'll missed buying Sam a long overdue drink but I still appreciate his daily reports. Hope the ratio of women to men improve later in the year.

I will update you Friday. I know a couple of my faves are returning Thursday. . Don't forget judys was a good ratio. Probably 50/50 but most men were lookersand not engaged in the hunt. I know some believe manhattans have the finer women. I've seen it ebb and flow over the years. Since judys is a new bar near Manhattan's it's Hard to tell which truly has the better quality if there's even a difference.

I tend to do better at judys for some reason. Maybe cause I start. At Manhattan's and end at judys. This time I should try in reverse.

[Leviton6]

Still a couple weeks out so unfortunately I will miss the legendary SamCan. I am with you on the pricing. I never want to pay too much but there are guys in the German FKK lounge who brag about leaving without a session because all the girls wanted $50 more than is reasonable. OMG. I hope you enjoy rubbing your blue balls with your crisp $50!

Sams report is startling to rev my engine for my next trip in April. To bad I'll missed buying Sam a long overdue drink but I still appreciate his daily reports. Hope the ratio of women to men improve later in the year.

[Steve 9696]

I went to manhattans Ratio was mixed up and many guys but few women so I left. I got a chinese girl there to agree to 1200 happily. She said 1600. I said 1200 as I had been saying 1200 all night. She jumped on it to the point I wish I said 1000.

By time I got to manhattans Id 2times in 2 hours. I was window shopping by then.

I think 1000 is in play at judys and same for manhattans. I didn't see a difference in quality though sometimes I have.

Either way no girl walked away at 1200 in either place. Remember we are talking a $30 difference here LOL. I will never walk away from my dream girl for $30.

Steve. Im in. Town until this weekend if you will be there
Sam

Still a couple weeks out so unfortunately I will miss the legendary SamCan. I am with you on the pricing. I never want to pay too much but there are guys in the German FKK lounge who brag about leaving without a session because all the girls wanted $50 more than is reasonable. OMG. I hope you enjoy rubbing your blue balls with your crisp $50!

[SamCan]

I meant do YOU plan to go there. I would love the latest intel on prices.

I went to manhattans Ratio was mixed up and many guys but few women so I left. I got a chinese girl there to agree to 1200 happily. She said 1600. I said 1200 as I had been saying 1200 all night. She jumped on it to the point I wish I said 1000.

By time I got to manhattans Id 2times in 2 hours. I was window shopping by then.

I think 1000 is in play at judys and same for manhattans. I didn't see a difference in quality though sometimes I have.

Either way no girl walked away at 1200 in either place. Remember we are talking a $30 difference here LOL. I will never walk away from my dream girl for $30.


Steve. I’m in. Town until this weekend if you will be there
Sam

[Steve 9696]

Loving the updates. May have to try that bar across from Judy's just for fun. I am avowed Manhattan fan however. Do I plan to go there? I'the love to get the lowdown on pricing since I will be there soon.

I meant do YOU plan to go there. I would love the latest intel on prices.

[Steve 9696]

Loving the updates. May have to try that bar across from Judy's just for fun. I am avowed Manhattan fan however. Do I plan to go there? I'the love to get the lowdown on pricing since I will be there soon.

[Midwestern]

After I was done. ,it was forgettable at best. ,she used the bathroom again stayed around. Wanted to play kissy face. I'm ready to have her gone.

Can't say I will be repeating this one. A great bubbly girl. Kinda cute. Playful but little of a dud for me personally.

Being out in pudong in expat land. Pickens are slim. It beats girls demanding a 500-700 rmb tip for a HJ by a masseuse however.

Samcan.

Sam, great reporting, as usual. Love reading about your adventures. A question: Do you ever bareback any of them? If so, do you have a strategy of finding and identifying them, and a strategy to minimize risks? Lately, I've become bored of CFS, and started to bareback some of these gals, and surprisingly, many are okay with it and only just afraid of getting pregnant. But I fully admit I'm being really, really stupid. Thus why I ask my question. Anyone else can jump in with their thoughts.

[SamCan]

So last night I called a chinese lady I met in judys. Took her number and call her. She was staying in but said tomorrow she would see me. . I was tired and called it a night. Actually fell asleep on the bed before I could come up w plan be. Jet lag took its toll. Tonight texted the chinese girl after no response, I called Yuwen. A viet babe about 27. Great body but must have had my beer goggles on. Cute but no stunner in the face. 7 overall due to the face.

She was really bubbly on the way in but took forever in the barthroom before the event. I always wonder if they are having a red day and trying to take care of it before we do the deed. I have had 2 of those discovered halfway into the play. Quite the mood killer.

1200+200 for the taxi. I am far out in pudong this taxi price is fair. I Shower with her trying to give a solid HJ to make me come. Then into bed. CBJ, willing teabagging. A couple FS positions. She Hates doggie. First she told me no. Then quickly agreed and Screamed like hell but allowed me to do it. As always an act I'm sure. I flippped into mish and she worked me with speed trying to finish me I did enjoy her rocking into me through it.

After I was done. ,it was forgettable at best. ,she used the bathroom again stayed around. Wanted to play kissy face. I'm ready to have her gone.

Can't say I will be repeating this one. A great bubbly girl. Kinda cute. Playful but little of a dud for me personally.

Being out in pudong in expat land. Pickens are slim. It beats girls demanding a 500-700 rmb tip for a HJ by a masseuse however.

Samcan.