East China - Shanghai

[RobSH]

Spring and Yu's extras have been suspended temporarily. A couple of girls have informed me that they aren't allowed to do extras for at least a couple of days or so. So some of them even went home.

The other day, I went to Changzhou 76. It turned into a strictly high end HJ joint. The rates are super high, 498/798/998. Price range varies depending on the hotness of the masseuse, ala old Dongguan. Again, its strictly a HJ service. The place has been renovated and is clean but to me, the prices are just too much for a HJ.

K.

Ah that explains my experience the other day. I was told no 396 service at two Hongkou Spring shops. The Spring shop on Tongbei road has shut down permanently.

[RinglingRoad]

Was in Shanghai a few weeks ago, just now getting around to posting something.

I usually go to J's, but I ended up staying in the small hotel right next to M's and ended up hanging out a bit there. On one night, there was this beautiful Chinese gal out front smoking so I decided to try to chat her up. She was with his "boyfriend" and a group of their friends. They use M's as a kinda swingers club, and swap out mistresses and add a Viet for group play. They come about twice or three times a month, whenever the guys are free to play with their mistresses. She was super hot, an ex car model who has had many trips to Korea for enhancement. She was a 10 for sure, and she told me she was well kept in an apartment with a new BMW and expense account. She was pissed off at her boyfriend as it was "that time" but yet he drug her along. She came out to smoke a few times and would always look at me when she left, and I would go hang out with her.

Her English was perfect, I mean Southern California perfect, I almost thought she was ABC. She spent some time in the states going to school, but got home sick and went home. She was a nice chick, but you could tell she could be a demanding she devil. I did get her wechat, and we talked a bit the next day but she then deleted me.

I ended up with a short spinner named Emma, Viet, small A's, 1,500 for LT, but ended up kicking her out about 4 am as she snored.

I also made it to a couple of Yu locations, both I was offered everything for 1,000 tip, one I declined (a little heavy for me), the other I partook (18 yo from Heibei), tight was not the right word, crushing little brother. She messaged me throughout the trip wanting to come to my hotel for 2000, I kept her at bay as she was almost my perfect definition of a spinner and she spoke just enough English to understand most of my dirty talk. If I partook then I knew I'd fall for her and that's not good.

Went to some dance club with a factory guy near Pudong, was drunk from dinner when we went so I have no idea where it was or the name, the chicks were very very hot, and I was the only white guy in the place and about 20 years older than anyone in the club. As my usual, ended up flirting with our waitress who was P4 P available, but I was too damn drunk to do anything other than take her into the men's bathroom stall and finger her.

[Midwestern]

Thanks all for all the advise and really appreciate same.

Just to confirm whether the Hilton shall be girl friendly or not?

Shall report once am done and again thanks for all the guidance.

Cheers guys.

What is your definition of girl friendly? Every hotel in China will allow you to bring a girl into your room as long as the girl has ID and registers at the front desk.

[WanderMan68]

Both C and V were available before, but now I can only find V. Does anyone know whether see can be still found in Beijing or Shanghai? The options in both BJ and SH are getting slimmer by day. My current strategy is to get the supplies and use them elsewhere.

[Keric333]

Hi everyone,

Went to Spring in Madang Road two times the last week in afternoon. 396 each time and good massage with he and +100 for extra nude chest. So everything good but throws two time after at 9. 00 pm and 6. 00 on and at desk they informed me no 396 available. The first time meant people were inside for a legit probably so OK but second time the same. Is anybody knows why? Is he massage just reserved for low traffic hours? Or do they stop extra?

Thanks.

Spring and Yu's extras have been suspended temporarily. A couple of girls have informed me that they aren't allowed to do extras for at least a couple of days or so. So some of them even went home.

The other day, I went to Changzhou 76. It turned into a strictly high end HJ joint. The rates are super high, 498/798/998. Price range varies depending on the hotness of the masseuse, ala old Dongguan. Again, its strictly a HJ service. The place has been renovated and is clean but to me, the prices are just too much for a HJ.

K.

[TimePassPune]

I have to add that once in People's Square I was approached by a group of "students" from another province visiting Shanghai. It took them a while but finally they asked me to go get a drink with them. To be honest they had me up to that point because they took their time to build by trust. As soon as I heard "have a drink" I bolted. Please follow the advice, under no circumstance follow anyone.

Thanks all for all the advise and really appreciate same.

Just to confirm whether the Hilton shall be girl friendly or not?

Shall report once am done and again thanks for all the guidance.

Cheers guys.

[Big Poppa II]

SamCan has already given you a comprehensive reply so I have nothing to add. However, an important word of caution as a first time traveller. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT EVER agree to follow any tout (man or lady) who walks up to you and tries to be nice and promises to show you a good time. They will rob you blind. Just do not give in to temptation or frustration of not finding poon. Simply thank them politely and walk away. They will follow, just keep walking.

This also applies to young girls who might approach you requesting you to join a traditional tea party or requesting your help with brushing up English skills and all that crap.

Stay safe. I am sharing this only because you seem to have done some RTFF and have asked some reasonable questions. Good luck.

I have to add that once in People's Square I was approached by a group of "students" from another province visiting Shanghai. It took them a while but finally they asked me to go get a drink with them. To be honest they had me up to that point because they took their time to build by trust. As soon as I heard "have a drink" I bolted. Please follow the advice, under no circumstance follow anyone.

[Blanquiceleste]

Am an Indian traveling alone to China for first time.

SNIP

Thanks in advance and appreciate your help.

Cheers,

Tp.

SamCan has already given you a comprehensive reply so I have nothing to add. However, an important word of caution as a first time traveller. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT EVER agree to follow any tout (man or lady) who walks up to you and tries to be nice and promises to show you a good time. They will rob you blind. Just do not give in to temptation or frustration of not finding poon. Simply thank them politely and walk away. They will follow, just keep walking.

This also applies to young girls who might approach you requesting you to join a traditional tea party or requesting your help with brushing up English skills and all that crap.

Stay safe. I am sharing this only because you seem to have done some RTFF and have asked some reasonable questions. Good luck.

[SamCan]

Am an Indian traveling alone to China for first time.

Shall be based out of Hilton Shanghai. Have done quite a few RTTF and believe Judy or Manhattan is the only safe bet for me. Would appreciate if you guys can help me with following.

- is it safe for a lone Indian person travelling around late at night I. E. After 10.

- how far is Pullman from Hilton.

- do the girls speak any English.

- going rate I am assuming is around 1200-2000 rmb for night?

- is Hilton girl friendly.

- can I get a taxi from Judy considering I don't have an app.

Thanks in advance and appreciate your help.the

Cheers,

Tp.

The HIlton Shanghai is quite a distance from M or J'S. I would switch to the portman if you can. It's only a one block walk from the bars. The girls speak english and your price range works. There are many taxi's outside M and J's as the night goes on but they are black cabs (black market) and you will pay a higher price. I can't speak to the pullman. Being Indian is a hit against you. Many of the girls have had bad experiences with your brothers from India. I have an indian friend with me one night and he got turned down quite a bit. My advice is be nice to them when talking and if they are not giving you a good vibe, move on. Don't let it get to you. One of the first guys i spoke to when i went to M's in the beginning was Indian and he did ok.

Even with that challenge, you will find a girl in the price range listed

please post your experiences for the rest of us. IF we don't all contribute, the board doesn't work.

[Strephane58]

Hi everyone,

Went to Spring in Madang Road two times the last week in afternoon. 396 each time and good massage with he and +100 for extra nude chest. So everything good but throws two time after at 9. 00 pm and 6. 00 on and at desk they informed me no 396 available. The first time meant people were inside for a legit probably so OK but second time the same. Is anybody knows why? Is he massage just reserved for low traffic hours? Or do they stop extra?

I also go to Jiashan station, is anyone has other good address near king an?

Is anybody already tried apartment girl found on wechat. I have one or two addresses where girl are available in apartment but not sure about safety!

Thanks.

[WinniTPooh]

Thanks for the helpful intel. The high rise does sound the way to go. I almost did this once, but the girl wanted a deposit. Hope you don't mind answering some more questions (I'd do PM, but you are not a senior member): how far in advance do you book? I've tried booking in the morning, but girl said she was busy all day- not sure if it was just an excuse. Where do you find the girls? Aishxx? Do you only go for girls that are reviewed there, or try newbies or wechat nearby girls? I'm worried about being robbed, or worse (waking up in a bath of ice) - have any bad experiences, or things that made you back out?

Cheers,

Rob.

Sorry about my lack of PM.

To answer your questions: I've been told countless times by every provider to make contact on the day and then again when an hour or so from arriving. Only once I was asked for a fifty percent deposit for an advanced day and time booking. Needless to say I didn't bother.

I found many of the girls on the old qianhua site. From these contacts I was asked to join chat groups which are loaded with girls looking for business. I never chat, just look up individuals from the info provided, telephone number, Wechat and sometimes qq, and then make private contact.

I suppose these would be your newbies!

I'm cautious by nature but I've never, in many years, felt unsafe and rarely disappointed. It's a low cost sexual adventure!

I've only backed out a couple of times when a low rise walk up appeared to be too confusing to find or too much of a dump. More recently, since only going to high rises, it's easy.

I think these girls are taking a bigger risk than we are. Generally speaking I try to get a sense of the girl in the brief chats before making a decision. Now I have a pretty extensive list to choose from without anxiety.

Hope this helps. Give it a try, you'll most likely be rewarded.

[TimePassPune]

Am an Indian traveling alone to China for first time.

Shall be based out of Hilton Shanghai. Have done quite a few RTTF and believe Judy or Manhattan is the only safe bet for me. Would appreciate if you guys can help me with following.

- is it safe for a lone Indian person travelling around late at night I. E. After 10.

- how far is Pullman from Hilton.

- do the girls speak any English.

- going rate I am assuming is around 1200-2000 rmb for night?

- is Hilton girl friendly.

- can I get a taxi from Judy considering I don't have an app.

Thanks in advance and appreciate your help.

Cheers,

Tp.

[Midwestern]

Thanks Sinofaguo! The Portman Ritz Carlton is looking good.

ES, just so you know, Judy's and Manhattan's are like Ipanema and Brix in Singapore. Since you said you monger in SG, this should give you an idea of what to expect at these places.

[Eric Swiss]

If looking for bar action you should go to Swiss Hotel, Portman ritz carlton, Puli or Shangrila Yan'an road hotels as they are close to the bar scene behind the Portman (Judy, manhattan and such).

From there you can easily go anywhere in the city by taxi or subway.

Much better location than the waldorf which is more of a tourist point by the bund but gets you trapped into trafic jam easily.

Thanks Sinofaguo! The Portman Ritz Carlton is looking good.

[Sinofaguo]

Just looking for a hotel in Shanghai where there is action, or near to the action. In Hong Kong, Bangkok and Singapore, I always go to the Hyatt because the bar is full of freelancers, but this will be my first time in Shanghai, so is the Waldorf the best?

If looking for bar action you should go to Swiss Hotel, Portman ritz carlton, Puli or Shangrila Yan'an road hotels as they are close to the bar scene behind the Portman (Judy, manhattan and such).

From there you can easily go anywhere in the city by taxi or subway.

Much better location than the waldorf which is more of a tourist point by the bund but gets you trapped into trafic jam easily.