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  1. #12937

    China info?

    Why are Chinese prostitutes never as good looking as their civie counterparts at least in North America.

  2. #12936

    Thanks king duke

    Good first post king duke! Keep them coming and you will be rewarded with others helping you.

    Samcan.

  3. #12935

    Gentlemen.

    The disclaimer on the top threw me off last 3 months. I thought I needed a credit card to register to this website. Duh. Changes in my job have now made me travel to Asia. Have always lurked around USAsg. Now I'm a member of USF too.

    Currently typing this from shanghai my last week of 3 here.

    Yes Judy's & Manhattan are filled to the brim. A curvy Ana. Had the same story. 3 days and going home alone. I like the boisterous one that comes to me. Anyway she just decided to hang out all night. That was not the plan but why would I say no. She in fact woke me up and went for a second spin. Never happened before. LOL.

    This forum has been my go to. I do work quite a lot. So not really tapped into the resources here. But good that I can contribute if I find something. Going to check out spring as I have never gotten a massage here.

    I did F my trip up a bit. Lost my debit card and got conned on e nanjing. LOL. Paid 2 g for a meal in a small restaurant with a girl I met on tan tan. Jeez. I was too nice to walk away from her. Just left a sour taste as I did not get any action either.

    Delete your tan tan and mono accounts unless you got the whole thing worked out to make sure she is genuine.

  4. #12934
    Six years with local girlfriend, now I'm free.

    Don't know about upper management but local management at the two I go to are very much in on what's going on.

    Sadly have not found what you describe for anywhere near that price these days. Back in the day could get the full spa service with fire / ice, catbath, rimming, FS, for 700-800.

    I'm just thankful there's still options to be had.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobSH  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your reports. Wonder why you waited 7 years though.

    Your experience at Spring doesn't quite match mine. First, not every Spring shop will offer extras beyond HJ. The one next to Yangpu theater for example is strictly HJ only- despite several attempts of mine with several different girls- all saying the same thing "not allowed here". Second, I don't think there is a fixed price structure. I've occasionally got the above services at a lower price than you quote: more like +100, +300, +500 (which seems more reasonable to me). But it seems completely up to the girl on what she charges for extras, and the girls appear to keep it on the down low (hiding money, condoms, and whispering, etc) - I don't think management approves, and with reason- it would attract LE attention (essentially all overtly FS MPs. So called GM shops. In Shanghai have been raided and shut down)..

  5. #12933
    Quote Originally Posted by RobSH  [View Original Post]
    Can you clean yours too? I want to send you a PM.
    Okay, I did it.

  6. #12932
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    Sinofaguo,

    Can you clean your inbox when you get chance? I want to send you a PM.

    Thanks, man.
    Can you clean yours too? I want to send you a PM.

  7. #12931
    Sinofaguo,

    Can you clean your inbox when you get chance? I want to send you a PM.

    Thanks, man.

  8. #12930
    Sinofaguo,

    Can you clean your inbox when you get chance?

    Thanks, man.

  9. #12929
    Thanks for the report. I agree about TangTang. But she has a tight bod so it is almost forgivable.

    Met most Rain girls but I like strange over repeats and so was thinking about Jemma next. Your report convinces me to go for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderman68  [View Original Post]
    Just had a short trip to Beijing and Shanghai. Did not have time to explore and so went for the known commodities. Same cost as usual, kitty's 1 k and Rain 1. 5 k plus taxi fares for both. TangTang has the common problem of kitty's girls but to a less extent. They were not into it. Jemma was a lot fun and worth the extra cost.

  10. #12928
    A couple of weeks ago, my favorite provider there suddenly deleted my wechat contact. Now I know why. I guess she is not on board with the new management.

    By the way. Post crackdown, 398 was always the price but it was off menu and not every Spring / Yu had it. The 336 option was never more than a HJ unless you got real lucky.

    Interesting that some places are pushing the boundaries while others are getting raided.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiSe  [View Original Post]
    Visited the old Spring massage on 585 Jiangning lu last week and realized it was re-branded (sorry, forgot the name).

    Went in anyway and the old staff was still there. Offered me immediately the oil massage not on the official menu. Was a bit surprised as it's now 396 RMB and if I remember right in Nov / Dec. It was still 336 RMB.

    But there was no room for negotiation, so I finally took it.

    First shower, then an average massage from a 26 yo girl from Xi'an (7/10).

    After the flip the negotiation started and we finally agreed on 150 RMB for fully naked, BBBJ & CIM. She also offered FS for 500, but I decided to go for the BJ.

    So even if it's re-branded and the price increased a bit, you still get there whatever you are looking for.
    .

  11. #12927
    Quote Originally Posted by ElChantor  [View Original Post]
    For me, I go to a massage chain called Spring Massage. They have a membership card that gets you a pretty decent discount, and extra services have standard prices. "Sexy" massage is 398 RMB (338 with membership card) and comes with a free HJ. If you want the girl to take off her clothes and allow you to rub your hands all over her, add 300. If you want BJ with CIM, add 500. If you want FS, add 700. That's it. Simple and straightforward. The girls may try to get more from you, but stand your ground and you'll be fine. Some may try to refuse FS. I had one who did because she claimed she's new and doesn't do FS but would do it with me for 800. I refused, but once I started fingering her and eating her out she caved in for the 700 price. They have locations all over the city and massage prices may vary slightly by location, but extra service prices are all the same.
    Thanks for your reports. Wonder why you waited 7 years though.

    Your experience at Spring doesn't quite match mine. First, not every Spring shop will offer extras beyond HJ. The one next to Yangpu theater for example is strictly HJ only- despite several attempts of mine with several different girls- all saying the same thing "not allowed here". Second, I don't think there is a fixed price structure. I've occasionally got the above services at a lower price than you quote: more like +100, +300, +500 (which seems more reasonable to me). But it seems completely up to the girl on what she charges for extras, and the girls appear to keep it on the down low (hiding money, condoms, and whispering, etc) - I don't think management approves, and with reason- it would attract LE attention (essentially all overtly FS MPs. So called GM shops. In Shanghai have been raided and shut down).

    I miss the days when Spring had a 498 (or thereabouts) option, which included B2B, fake-jelly-tongue rimming, and (depending on the girl / shop) BJ. That was one of the best deals in town, considering the high quality of girl and decent massage. Have you found any shop that still offers this?

    Cheers,

    Rob.

  12. #12926
    Quote Originally Posted by ElChantor  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, the chain actually encompasses a few brands of massage parlors in addition to Spring. If you become a member and follow them on Wechat, you'll see all of their locations. The two I used to frequent are the Maoming North Road branch and Wanping Road branch.
    The 585 Jiangning store is no longer part of the Spring massage chain. It is called Yubaojian Assembly Hall (use apple maps for more info).

  13. #12925
    Yeah, the chain actually encompasses a few brands of massage parlors in addition to Spring. If you become a member and follow them on Wechat, you'll see all of their locations. The two I used to frequent are the Maoming North Road branch and Wanping Road branch.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiSe  [View Original Post]
    Visited the old Spring massage on 585 Jiangning lu last week and realized it was re-branded (sorry, forgot the name).

    Went in anyway and the old staff was still there. Offered me immediately the oil massage not on the official menu. Was a bit surprised as it's now 396 RMB and if I remember right in Nov / Dec. It was still 336 RMB.

    But there was no room for negotiation, so I finally took it.

    First shower, then an average massage from a 26 yo girl from Xi'an (7/10).

    After the flip the negotiation started and we finally agreed on 150 RMB for fully naked, BBBJ & CIM. She also offered FS for 500, but I decided to go for the BJ.

    So even if it's re-branded and the price increased a bit, you still get there whatever you are looking for.

  14. #12924

    Former Spring on Jiangning lu.

    Visited the old Spring massage on 585 Jiangning lu last week and realized it was re-branded (sorry, forgot the name).

    Went in anyway and the old staff was still there. Offered me immediately the oil massage not on the official menu. Was a bit surprised as it's now 396 RMB and if I remember right in Nov / Dec. It was still 336 RMB.

    But there was no room for negotiation, so I finally took it.

    First shower, then an average massage from a 26 yo girl from Xi'an (7/10).

    After the flip the negotiation started and we finally agreed on 150 RMB for fully naked, BBBJ & CIM. She also offered FS for 500, but I decided to go for the BJ.

    So even if it's re-branded and the price increased a bit, you still get there whatever you are looking for.

  15. #12923

    Spring Massage chain in Shanghai.

    Hi all,

    Since bros seem to be having trouble finding action in Shanghai, thought I'd post a bit of what I know.

    I've lived in Shanghai 7 years and tried most of it, from the golden age of spas such as 999 (sigh) to Judy's / Manhattan to cheap barber shops and massage parlors.

    If you just need to get off from an old not so attractive woman, go for the barber shops. They are around 200 - 300 for a quick no frills 30-min HJ / BJ / FS session. What you get depends on your haggling skills. I only tried these a couple times in Pudong area a few years back. Not my thing.

    Sexy spas have pretty much been chased out of the city. My local contacts are all operating for outfits out in Kunshan and beyond now. Takes too long to get to but if you want Chinese stunners you will find them here. Girls range from 6 to perfect 10. Prices range from 1500 RMB to over 6000 RMB for "Ferrari models". Service is generally great, but you can get FS and good service for much cheaper. If you want a local contact for these kinds of places, I have a few.

    Judy's / Manhattan are great if you want a sexy Vietnamese for 1000 - 1500. These girls range from 6 to 9 in looks and 18 to 30+ in age. However, service level varies wildly and your mileage WILL vary based on your chemistry with the girl and language. Also, it's completely up to them whether they want to talk to you and go with you, so don't walk in acting like an arrogant prick. If you find a good one, get her Wechat afterwards and hit her up there.

    Finally, my preference in Shanghai are the veggie looking massage joints that provide extra services. These can be hard to find, as there are a ton of veggie massage shops in the city. Some of the girls in these places will do extra but charge very high prices.

    For me, I go to a massage chain called Spring Massage. They have a membership card that gets you a pretty decent discount, and extra services have standard prices. "Sexy" massage is 398 RMB (338 with membership card) and comes with a free HJ. If you want the girl to take off her clothes and allow you to rub your hands all over her, add 300. If you want BJ with CIM, add 500. If you want FS, add 700. That's it. Simple and straightforward. The girls may try to get more from you, but stand your ground and you'll be fine. Some may try to refuse FS. I had one who did because she claimed she's new and doesn't do FS but would do it with me for 800. I refused, but once I started fingering her and eating her out she caved in for the 700 price. They have locations all over the city and massage prices may vary slightly by location, but extra service prices are all the same.

    How it works: You go in and tell them you want the full body massage for 398 RMB. They'll take you to a room with massage table and shower. If you're taken to a room with a chair and no shower, then there's been some kind of communication problem! Order a free drink and wait a few minutes. A knock on the door indicates the girl has arrived. If you don't like her, just tell her or if you can't speak Chinese, smile and shake your head. She will go out and another will come in. One time, after 7 changes, the manager came in and asked me what I want. I told her young, skinny, pretty (obviously) and finally two decent ones came in.

    My experiences:

    #1: Girl agrees to FS, but is a dead fish. Cute though. 6/10.

    #2: Girl is a big larger but pretty. Fairly decent. This is the one that wanted 800 for FS but caved to 700 after I started playing with her. 7/10. Revisited once.

    #3: Very pretty girl who worked very hard on me. I had just banged another girl the night before and actually just wanted a veggie massage (they do pretty good ones too) but their veggie masseuses were fully booked. Manager told me they had a lot of new girls and convinced me to go for sexy massage first. This is the time I changed 7 times until finally the manager intervened. The girl jumped right on me and gave me catbath, tit rub, necking. Started making out, then BBBJ into 69. Then more making out with my dick nearly BB penetrating her, and I could tell she would've let but I was too scared so I asked for condom. FS in mish and doggie. Since I wasn't fully recharged it was a bit tough but she worked very hard. I will definitely revisit. 8. 5/10.

    Mileage does vary a bit but at least the haggling is kept to a minimum and the service level doesn't range wildly from 0 to 10 like it does at Judy's / Manhattan. Note I am of Chinese descent and I speak nearly perfect Mandarin. Communication is key to making these girls comfortable enough to have a good time with you.

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