East China - Shanghai

[RobSH]

Been considering having a little fun in China for a while as I'm over here a lot through work and discovered aishxxx through this forum. Took some time to select a few options. Made contact through wechat, very responsive girl with an active profile (not just stock photos). Wanted her to come to my hotel but for safety, they like to keep it in house.

Sounds like an apartment girl- is that right? Are you of Asian descent? I've never tried this, as I feel as a westerner, I'd stick out like a sore thumb at those apartment set ups. Neighbors could easily complain to police and the string of men visiting the girl.

[SpeedBird009]

Been considering having a little fun in China for a while as I'm over here a lot through work and discovered aishxxx through this forum. Took some time to select a few options. Made contact through wechat, very responsive girl with an active profile (not just stock photos). Wanted her to come to my hotel but for safety, they like to keep it in house. Made my way over via taxi, she buzzed me in after few nerves outside. Always feel like this due to the what if factor. Went in, she did look like her photo and was a very cute girl. Brunette, 155 cm spinner type. Only let down was a heavy smoker and its a little bit of a turn off for me.

Showered, Passionate BBBJ with some pretty strong skills, moved onto CFS, she was struggling a little bit I think due to her being tiny but we had a good time. Showered paid 500 yuan. And left.

Would recommend as it was non-rushed and reasonable good service.

The first review from me so will try to give more in-depth analysis next time.

[XikangLu]

After a friends dinner in some underground mall on Madang Rd I noticed a spring massage and I walked in. It was about 11 pm and the place was pretty quiet.

Standard 268 price for massage with HE negotiations. The classic Spring deal.

I was shown a standard tiny room with a shower and then girl #93 shows up. A decent looking, hot 21-yo from Hunan that had just joined that MP, moving from Baoshan into downtown. Oh boy she was great! At first she asked 1000 for FS for one hour, but I ended up with 500 for BBBJ & CIM. Fantastic skills. I won't say more. Just go try her out. Absolutely worth it. It's a spring massage so you know what to expect in terms of room decor and service in general, however this one girl is good.

[Turgid]

........ he posts the same message 8 times in 8 different subboards............

It was actually 9, you missed one.

[Rodneey]

Lets get back to the Shanghai forum issues.

An opportunity to tell posters here to stay away from Minhang for now as it has been the local and1 target for the past week due to too many shops reopening there.

Stay safe!

Hi there,

Very long time lurker posting for the first time here.

I'm not really a J, M or sauna type of guy, but I do like the occasional MP visit.

On the subject of Minhang, any of you familiar with the shops on HongSong Lu? Been following their developments closely over the last couple of years. There used to be a ton of them, all with scantily dressed ladies at the front. All that of course has gone, but there are still a few operating down there in a more discrete manner. A couple of weeks ago, two of them (including one I have visited in the past and had FS) have suddenly turned into what look like 'lady drink' bars, but I suspect there is still stuff on the menu if your Chinese is good. I don't know the exact numbers of these places, but seasoned mongers such as you lot will have no problem sniffing them out Anyone else know much about these places?

[Sinofaguo]

It has occurred to me that a monger can determine the health of a provider during foreplay by examining her vaginal discharge.

It has occurred to me that a poster is spamming a forum when he posts the same message 8 times in 8 different subboards.

Thanks for letting us know we shouldn't BB a girl who has green or yellow discharges and smells very bad. I mean whom could have thought of it as a sign of problem!

The thing is I wouldn't BB a girl whom has 5 partners a days, whom is likely to catch unwanted things from them since they have BB with other partners aswell.

Especially since these WG due to their intensive sex are more likely to have vaginal cuts and blood issues highering the risk of contamination.

Lets get back to the Shanghai forum issues.

An opportunity to tell posters here to stay away from Minhang for now as it has been the local and°1 target for the past week due to too many shops reopening there.

Stay safe!

[Avonite]

Just flew in today. Slept early and woke up around 2:00 am. Figure why not make a visit. Exited the taxi and seen two security guards outside. Was concerned but went in anyways. At 3:00 am, M was empty. Completely empty. I don't remember it being empty from previous visits. Concerns?

Went to visit tonight. Everything is back to normal. Thanks everyone.

[Turgid]

It has occurred to me that a monger can determine the health of a provider during foreplay by examining her vaginal discharge. This could assist said monger in determining whether to indulge in non covered activity such as BBFS, BBBJ or DATY. The below mentioned information should be of assistance:

Clear discharge = Healthy.

Grey discharge = Vaginal vaginosis.

Pink discharge = cervical bleeding.

Yellow / Green discharge = bacterial infection or sexually transmitted infection. There also may be an odor associated with it.

Brown discharge = This could be a sign of uterine or cervical cancer. Additionally, during menopause, a woman should not have any type of vaginal bleeding, which is also a sign of uterine cancer.

Red discharge = Menstruation, cervical infection, cervical polyp, endometrial or cervical cancer.

Thick, White cottage cheese-type discharge = yeast infection. Roughly 90 percent of women will have a yeast infection at some point in their life.

[SamCan]

Just came back from J's. Tried chatting up a 9/10 and a 7/10. Both pitched 1500ST and weren't willing to come down. Definitely some price fixing bullshit happening.

You had already paid 1500 and the girls talk. After you pay 1500 for one. If they take less they are basically agreeing they are not as pretty or good as the last girl you paid 1500. Theres a pride thing going on.

i also enjoy the chase and time in the bar so i am not in a rush...

I did 2 girls my first night in shanghai. One after the other. The second girl knew what I paid and told me the other girl told her. When we were in the room she kept doing awesome kinky things. Stopping to say. I am better. Did the other girl do this? And she kept getting more kinky.

FWIW , i have taken girls out at 10pm done the deed and walked back with them to M or J for round 2. i buy them their first drink on our return and wish them luck

[SamCan]

I agree. Last time I got one spinner for 1000 and paid 1200 for the rest. I don't usually take any from Ms. I agree their pricing is higher and frankly I don't see a big difference. Are some of the M girls prettier? Yea, sure but not that much on average. Are there a couple standouts? Yea definitely,, there was one hot one at M's that wanted 2000 ST , i was too shot to offer less or pay it . it had been a long week of banging by then

I also had a massage and got a chinese massage girl to come to my hotel. For 1000. She hit me up for taxi money so 1100.

I had no trouble with 1200 at Ms. Couple girls were giving me trouble at 1000 but 1200 was out the door.

i also paid 2 girls 1400-1500 to come see me in pudong but that included 100 each way taxi money as it's far away

You guys may be right at M's but I usually go their first and grab something at J's as my willpower is gone by that point.

of course, i have never negotiated with the girl naked in bed.... i don't think i would have the best leverage there. lol

Just my 2 cents.

[Steve 9696]

Just came back from J's. Tried chatting up a 9/10 and a 7/10. Both pitched 1500ST and weren't willing to come down. Definitely some price fixing bullshit happening.

Yes I think 1500 is going rate and the prettiest girls are going to get it. SamCan is unique in his ability to get better deals though if I recall his last report he too was paying near market. I personally don't think we can complain too much. When there were a bunch of sauna options J and M were one of many alternatives. Now with almost all that underground or seedy or bait and switch, the value of Judy's and Manhattan has gone up exponentially. I am really happy with the girls I get for 1500 FWIW.

I do a lot of worldwide travel so I can tell you it is still a good value. In order of pricing for girls of similar quality and including BBBJ it goes something like this (lowest to highest) Brazil, Thailand, Germany, London & Judy's / Manhattan tie, Spain, Japan &Russia tie, Switzerland, United States. Others may have slightly different opinions but this is all from real world experiences. I put $200-250/ hour around the mid-point and that is where J and M come in these days.

[Avonite]

Just flew in today. Slept early and woke up around 2:00 am. Figure why not make a visit. Exited the taxi and seen two security guards outside. Was concerned but went in anyways. At 3:00 am, M was empty. Completely empty. I don't remember it being empty from previous visits. Concerns?

[Skepti10]

Just came back from J's. Tried chatting up a 9/10 and a 7/10. Both pitched 1500ST and weren't willing to come down. Definitely some price fixing bullshit happening.

[Skepti10]

Yes, 8:00 pm is too early. The girls start arriving between 9:15 and 9:30.

Red Rider.

For me 1500 or so has been overnight, 1000 is one shot/actually sometimes 2. I never quibble about 100 rmb or so but as I have said, the rate you pay the first time becomes your rate. They all talk.

Thanks fellas.

I made the trip to M again last night. Had dinner first at the blind pig which was fantastic, one of the few places that accept foreign credit cards, and headed to the bar at 9. 30 pm.

Red Rider was completely right, at 9. 30 is the place was still relatively empty but the girls was constantly flowing in. I grabbed a seat by the door and watched the parade. Eventually I saw a very pretty young girl walk in, and I thought there was a chance she was Chinese. She got a drink at the bar then sat down and dived into her phone. Not one to be discouraged I walked up and started chatting to her. Mildly surprised she was Vietnamese, as she didn't have the typical look. She's called Mia and said she was from Hanoi (and I suspect there's some serious Han Chinese blood in her) and was 21 or so. After a little while (she wasn't too chatty) I ask her to leave but she said the girls can't leave before 10.30 pm which was a surprise. That explains why the guys don't show up super early either. We play a bit of drinking games (high / low card game on my phone) but she's not a big drinker so I call a taxi shortly after 10.30 pm. My hotel's about 20+ minutes away but only costs about 30 rmb.

We get to the room and she strips off very quickly. Holy shit she has a nice body. Ass is a little flat but otherwise excellent. Fair skin, big tits (high quality silicone seems like), pink nipples, no tattoos. We get on the bed and she asks for cash upfront. Shit. Initially we arrange for overnight but didn't discuss price (a mistake in hindsight). Gave her half upfront (800) then she flipped out saying short time was 1500 while overnight was 3000. Double shit. I wasn't really interested in overnight at the 3 k price range so had no choice but to agree to 1500 for 1 shot. She was way too pretty to leave my hotel room unfucked haha so I didn't have any leverage. Gave a reasonable but short BBBJ and jumped on after putting on the condom. CG, doggy, missionary, shoot. Had to hold her legs in place as she tried that thing where they try to limit the penetration.

After I finished she jumped in the shower and tried to get me to give 100 for taxi. I thought about giving her nothing, but frankly she's just pretty enough that I might be interested in wechatting her over for another session if I'm ever too lazy to get back to M&Js. So caved and gave her 50.

Now I'm sure all the M girls won't take anything less than 1500ST, and I'm sure most of the hotter girls in J will try for the same. Perhaps next weekend I'll head there a little later (just after midnight maybe) and see if I can get overnight for 2 k. But to be honest even though 1500 is expensive compared to HK, some of these Viets may just be worth it. I'm going to go back tonight and try judys first, see if I can ST for 1000-1200.

[SamCan]

1500 is the price for 1 shot or overnight?

For me 1500 or so has been overnight, 1000 is one shot/actually sometimes 2. I never quibble about 100 rmb or so but as I have said, the rate you pay the first time becomes your rate. They all talk.