East China - Shanghai

[AmericanThief]

I've transferred to SH. Can't believe the prices for Viet girls. Anyways, that's the market.

I have no idea where to go and what to look for. Health monitor is tracking me everywhere. Would really prefer to get a sugar baby migrant on the regular instead of hit and miss AMPS.

I bet the quality here has gone down like everywhere in the world but prices prolly going up too.

I need some attention though.

Any recommendations is appreciated. I'm in Pudong New.

[Midwestern]

Hope your right. 2019 was my last trip to China to. Like you I have friends I keep in touch with who I would love to see again.

I got back to states Sept. 2019-still stuck here after 26 years of traveling China-still have at least 75% of my "friends" we keep in touch. Looking forward to coming back, I think 1st qtr of 2023-I got to figure out which one first ha ha.

Hey guys, good to see some familiar names and reliable posters from the past! If you guys can share your friends' contacts with me (via PM), then I can return the favor when you guys are finally able to return to Shanghai!

Has anybody had success with SA here in Shanghai?

I looked at SA in Shanghai a bunch of times. Was not tempting. But at one point I did try to sign up for an account and I got blocked.

If you are looking for an arrangement, then why not try to hook up with migrant workers, these are the gals that come from the rural parts of China to work in Shanghai. These are the waitresses, housekeepers, nannies, subway security guards, shopkeepers, cashiers, convenience store employees, etc. Many years ago, there was a guy in the Beijing thread that used to brag about his many, many hookups with these migrant workers, and I ignored him. However, in the past few years, I have discovered that he was right all along. These gals are lonely, they are poor, and they are extremely flattered when foreigners are interested in them. If you want pointers, then let me know.

A pretty easy target are masseuses, especially if they work at a jack shack. Many of them have BFs that pay for their rent (about 4,000 RMB per month) and provide a monthly stipend (from 6,000 to 10,000 RMB per month). I have had several of these kinds of arrangements, but I do not do them anymore, because getting out of these arrangements can be tricky.

[AggieDad1]

I got back to states Sept. 2019-still stuck here after 26 years of traveling China-still have at least 75% of my "friends" we keep in touch. Looking forward to coming back, I think 1st qtr of 2023-I got to figure out which one first ha ha.

Hope your right. 2019 was my last trip to China to. Like you I have friends I keep in touch with who I would love to see again.

[Marty47]

Just what I can get away domestically. I don't imagine it's going to change much. If projects open up for me overseas, I. On my way!

I got back to states Sept. 2019-still stuck here after 26 years of traveling China-still have at least 75% of my "friends" we keep in touch. Looking forward to coming back, I think 1st qtr of 2023-I got to figure out which one first ha ha.

[WulumuqiLurker]

Hey man. As MW says long time. Yeah the ShAnghai scene seems totally busted. Thank god I don't depend on that. Can't recall where you live but most of us stateside guys are doing Seekibg Arrangements. Fuck ton of work and expensive because it's US pricing but totally worth it. See the thread here in ISG if you want to catch up on SA. I see MW in there often.

Has anybody had success with SA here in Shanghai?

[Steve 9696]

Just what I can get away domestically. I don't imagine it's going to change much. If projects open up for me overseas, I. On my way!

Hey man. As MW says — long time. Yeah the ShAnghai scene seems totally busted. Thank god I don't depend on that. Can't recall where you live but most of us stateside guys are doing Seekibg Arrangements. Fuck ton of work and expensive because it's US pricing but totally worth it. See the thread here in ISG if you want to catch up on SA. I see MW in there often.

[SamCan]

Sam! Good to see you on here, man.

The scene in SH is not the same. I cannot speak for J and M, but everything else is scarce, pricy, or it sucks. That said, I still feel lucky to be able to monger a little bit. The trickiest bit are incalls. As you can imagine, things are strict here in the era of Covid. Authorities know and care about our whereabouts way more than ever.

You able to monger at all where you are at?

Just what I can get away domestically. I don't imagine it's going to change much. If projects open up for me overseas, I. On my way!

[Midwestern]

Sam! Good to see you on here, man.

The scene in SH is not the same. I cannot speak for J and M, but everything else is scarce, pricy, or it sucks. That said, I still feel lucky to be able to monger a little bit. The trickiest bit are incalls. As you can imagine, things are strict here in the era of Covid. Authorities know and care about our whereabouts way more than ever.

You able to monger at all where you are at?

Hello all. Just stopping by to lurk. I haven't been to SH for quite a while. Interesting that the scene seems to still have some life in it.

I liked Steven. I met him for beers one night. We spoke often via text and message. The one time we met he seemed quite confident and concerned me enough to not see him face to face. I asked him if he felt safe. He believed he was lining the right pockets.

It's interesting that I did most of my China visits from 2009 to 2019. I still see the same names from back then. Baobab Cathy Maria. They have to be ancient! How's Beverly jones these days. ? Has she finally retired?

Good to see all the familiar screen names still active. Monger on for me!

Sam (wishes). He can in China.

Samcan.

[Sinofaguo]

Some liked him and his services, but some were annoyed by him because he may have single handedly raised the market prices. In addition, he did not allow negative reviews. I actually liked him, especially when I was a noob to the Shanghai scene. He and his assistant both got busted. I feel bad for the guy. If he got a one or two year sentence, then I might say that he should have known this was possible, but a 12 year sentence is crazy.

Not long afterwards, Rain and some of her gals got busted too, but jail sentence was much shorter for them.

I didn't like the fact he was making money on our back for info we were posting for free here, on the singapore forum and another forum.

I didn't like either some girls who were charging 700 and had been reported for free on boards suddenly charged 1 k then 1. 2 k on his website (the girls had to pay a commission so I don't blame them but I blame the pimp).

I didn't like the fact either he was deleting negative comments even when not exagerated because as he said "it was making the girls loose business".

That being said his service did help people whom were just passing by and didn't wan't to do their homework.

While I believe he was silly for posting his private info and such and for thinking being a pimp was ok in China, I never wished him to get caught and spend 12 years in jail. He has my full compassion for that regardless of the rest.

[Beijing4987]

Sam.

"Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'the never end" Check your PM box.

BJ.

[SamCan]

Some liked him and his services, but some were annoyed by him because he may have single handedly raised the market prices. In addition, he did not allow negative reviews. I actually liked him, especially when I was a noob to the Shanghai scene. He and his assistant both got busted. I feel bad for the guy. If he got a one or two year sentence, then I might say that he should have known this was possible, but a 12 year sentence is crazy.

Not long afterwards, Rain and some of her gals got busted too, but jail sentence was much shorter for them.

Hello all. Just stopping by to lurk. I haven't been to SH for quite a while. Interesting that the scene seems to still have some life in it.

I liked Steven. I met him for beers one night. We spoke often via text and message. The one time we met he seemed quite confident and concerned me enough to not see him face to face. I asked him if he felt safe. He believed he was lining the right pockets.

It's interesting that I did most of my China visits from 2009 to 2019. I still see the same names from back then. Baobab Cathy Maria. They have to be ancient! How's Beverly jones these days. ? Has she finally retired?

Good to see all the familiar screen names still active. Monger on for me!

Sam (wishes). He can in China.

Samcan.

[Midwestern]

Is Steven is the guy who ran Shanghai nightlife kinda website? If I am right he is German I guess who put July's and other KTV things and charged a few for some other nightlife scenes?

Some liked him and his services, but some were annoyed by him because he may have single handedly raised the market prices. In addition, he did not allow negative reviews. I actually liked him, especially when I was a noob to the Shanghai scene. He and his assistant both got busted. I feel bad for the guy. If he got a one or two year sentence, then I might say that he should have known this was possible, but a 12 year sentence is crazy.

Not long afterwards, Rain and some of her gals got busted too, but jail sentence was much shorter for them.

[Ace Gallant]

I have to say your answers do not match with my personal experience as a white foreigner in SH over the last two or three months. The non-veggie MP scene is alive and well in SH (for the time being at least), and I have not been poorly treated in any of the places I've visited.

Fine then, Do anything you want but don't get caught, stay safe and take care!

Enjoy!

AG.

[Rodneey]

That's good to know. Could you share some of your places?

Look further upthread and you'll see that I and others have already shared some places, maybe you could try some of those.

[BonMonger]

Thanks for thee update. 12 years is a long time in the hole.

It seems there's Steve's all over the ISG country threads, guys who start out as regular mongers trading insights, then leverage their knowledge into some form of pimping. The Peruvian and Costa Rican "Steve's" are also now doing hard time in prison. Dangerous way to make a living, but these guys develop a false sense of confidence and cockiness the longer they don't get caught. Steve's a great guy who felt he was providing a service that helped both mongers and WG's.

Steve's sad tale is also a great reminder to never reveal real name, phone, email, FB, etc to a WG, site like ISG or dating agency. Fake emails, burner SIMs, etc.

Is Steven is the guy who ran Shanghai nightlife kinda website? If I am right he is German I guess who put July's and other KTV things and charged a few for some other nightlife scenes?